12/13/2019

SEA Games - Only 3 bronze medals. Asia Masters 16 golds, 12 silvers and 14 bronzes

'NEW CLARK CITY, Philippines: The lack of "stable governance" within the athletics fraternity has cost its athletes, said Singapore Sports Institute’s (SSI) head of high performance and athlete life Richard Gordon, following the sport’s poor outing at the 30th SEA Games.
“We’ve seen a decline in results over the past three SEA Games. We’ve done a lot of work behind the scenes in terms of trying to help (them) to stabilise,” said Mr Gordon at a wrap-up press conference on Wednesday (Dec 11)....

Singapore’s athletics contingent did not win a gold or silver at this year's Games. It bagged three bronze - two courtesy of Shanti Pereira in the 100m and 200m finals and one from Nur Izlyn Zaini in the 100m hurdles.'

The above is quoted in CNA. Singapore's athletes performed miserably in the recent SEA Games held in Manila, without a gold or silver medal. In another report by CNA, 'Team Singapore will send its biggest away contingent to the SEA Games this year, with 647 athletes from 48 sports, the Singapore National Olympic Council (SNOC) announced Thursday (Aug 1).'

I am not sure how many of the 647 athletes are in track and field events but the number must be quite substantial and the amount spent as well. In contrast, Singapore masters athletes competed in the 21st Asia Masters Athletics Championship in Kuching, Sarawak, about the same time and came back with 16 golds, 12 silvers and 14 bronze medals from a contingent of slightly more than 100 athletes.

And mind you, the masters athletes went there to compete, to represent Singapore, to fly the Singapore flag, without getting a single cent from the govt in subsidies. They paid for their own training, with coaches providing free services and advises, and they paid for their registration fees, hotels and air tickets and all expenses. The masters athletes self financed their participation in an international event, to represent their country and flying the Singapore flag in glory, from their very own pockets.

No one can claim this as money well spent but the masters athletes. When would the govt show its appreciation and support for the masters athletes for bringing fame and recognition to Singapore? In this particular event, the masters athletes did not even have track suits or running apparels issued by the state. They have to used old track suits and running apparels. Some have to borrow old track suits from other athletes just to take part in the march past during the opening and closing ceremonies to show that they are from Singapore.

Would the govt think it is better to divert some funds to support the masters athletes for their effort and the golds, silvers and bronzes they brought home in the name of Singapore than to spend millions on the athletes that could not even bring in a single gold or silver medal from the SEA Games after spending millions on them?

The next big masters event is in July 2020 in Toronto, Canada, the World Masters Athletics Championship. Would there be any funds from the govt to support this event and the masters athletes participating? Or would the masters athletes still be footing their own bills and paying for their own track suits with the word Singapore proudly embolden on them? Would the govt think it is more rewarding and better returns for the money spent, to support the masters athletes?

Supporting the masters athletes is value for money. Also to make good all the talks about appreciating the senior citizens, to stay healthy and active in the golden age. The least that the govt could do is to support the masters athletes at the same level as para athletes. Is this too much to ask?

40 comments:

Anonymous said...

Gd Morning Rb.
Maybe u r still sleeping.
There is no ministry of sports in Sinkieland lah, so to ask them to support anything on Masters Athletes or watever sporting events is a lost cause. The G already lost hope or too paiseh of sporting achievements in the international area ( as most r foreigners) , they even had a new rendition of the slow down crying like National anthem, so wat does it tell? All these G support of Sports r only controlling of the Ah Long San's budget & wayang of a sporting culture in Sinkieland lah. So to ask the minister or G to support any sporting culture , they wud juz check about the costs and costs of their votes & that's zit, sports to them r all wayang wayang , wayang kulit lah.

Anonymous said...

Ya agreed esp for seniors no more economic contribution is a burden to society from their view. Some more u wanted then to spend money on seniors u tan ku ku lar

WSG

Anonymous said...

So what even when all the Masters Athletes all win gold medals. It will not make the govt invite u all to parliament to wear ur gold medals. They prefer Olympic Gold Medals as it's rare ( also the competition is ageless, even disabled also can, however Paralympic or Masters tat has classification of age & abilities level, Olympic is not therefore its weightage given by countries of all govt is huge & bring in pride of their nation!). So do you think the Sinkies govt care about this Master events? They wud juz cast it aside like tissue paper medal lah (sori me a bit heartless here).

Frog Outside Glass said...

THIS IS THE EXTERNAL SIGN, AN INTERNATIONAL SIGNAL, THAT SINGAPORE IS ON THE DECLINE.

Anonymous said...

Agree.
It's Sinking fast & furious after the old man or old guards passed on. Sinkies r all living in a "frog's well" (sorry not mention u lah).

Ⓜatilah $ingapura⚠️ said...

@ RB

Your "theories" highlight the fact that humans (like you) are subjected to delusions of their minds...which "make up stories" to APPEAR TO CONFIRM their BIASED beliefs. i.e. your brain has succeeded in fooling itself and successfully convinced itself that it is "correct".😂

It's a matter of distribution lah. The "success" of The Masters follows a power law distribution. The Masters who swooped the medals are the top FIT older people....i.e. most of their peers are sedentary, suffering health issues or barely clinging to life, just waiting for Their Lorry to arrive.⚰️☠️.

Most of the Masters are "blessed" genetically---according to the numbers (depending on which study you pick)your destiny is determined by: 50% genetics, 30% lifestyle and 20% pure dumb luck.

So let's say that The Masters are more-or-less the "winners" in the genetic lottery having "good genes", plus they chose to live correctly and TRAIN together seriously.

This causes the expression the long-tailed "power law"....most of the winners are concentrated at the top with a long tail of very average or poor performing old farts.

Singapore has one to THE HIGHEST numbers for longevity. Therefore you will get, as a percentage of population significantly MORE old fuckers who are KICKING ARSE.💪🍻🍻

OTOH, the SEA Games has huge contingents of more-or-less equally matched athletes. Although they are "elite" and "young", when you compare their performance you get a normal distribution...since they are equally matched most will fall in the middle of the Bell Curve, and the few that win medals will be in the "fat tails" or be complete outliers (data points outside the curve).

Admitedly, maths is tedious and boring.

What is more interesting is to observe (in amazement!) how the "normal" human mind works...like yours...deluding itself and coming out with TC & SS "stories", so that these deluded minds can invent some sort of "contest". In this case it is SEA Games vs Masters athletes.

Of course lah, RB's brain is BIASED toward The Masters...so it must find "evidence" that The Masters in some way "outperforms" the SEA Games...using the medal tallies as OBJECTIVE-BASED PROXIES as a measure of "success". 😂🤪🤟🍻🍻

Delusional and mostly pointless TCSS is far more "entertaining" than cold-factual math!👍👍

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

What bias are you talking about? There were 28 countries participating in the masters, including China, India, Japan and Indonesia. India sent in more than 400 athletes in the masters. These few countries have millions of aged people compare to our miserable few hundred thousand PG n MG.

SEA Games only 10 or 11 countries participating, without China, India n Japan.

You know how to count or not?

Anonymous said...

Redbean.
In order to have support of the PAPies govt in ur sports. What u all need is to attempt on the Olympics, even if u all didn't win any medals also can, at least some attempt, this wud make the govt know of the sporting spirit that seniors really have, in any sports in the Olympic games, important thing is to win a medal, the likelihood of making the govt supporting the senior in this will be high. If u all continue for these Masters Athletes competition on & on (its waste of time & own monies, not wise at all), to the G they wud think it's your own gratification or self-glorification nothing to do with the nation sports at all! So wake up lah!

Virgo49 said...


Let me give you an example.

Joseph what's Schooling. Blue Eye Boy of the Prestige gian png PAP Elites just won a SINGLE GOLD in the Olympics.

When all othet swimmers alreday fully exhausted in their other events.

Wah piang, no call up for National Slavery. Other sons already served going to put on reserves.

Some even died for their Country.

Now, wah piang just as relac and auto pilot as the present group of leaders.

Became fat fat and lost competitiveness in all fields. Still trying to con the masses that they are for the people.

Water polo also OUT. Economy also OUT.

They can blame Singaporeans for not having the necessary skills in employment. Faction of POP NOT all Uni or Higher Institutions graduates. They must ensure suitable jobs for them. How can you blame them for not having the skills.

Now that Free Loader One time Gold medal can have even more time to prepare for his next shot.

My God even beaten by his own compatriot.

Call him up for NS lah and give him nine weeks BMT ti

Virgo 49 said...

To get fit again.

Unfair to other Singaporean men who served before him.

Cheers

Anonymous said...

The important thing here is JS won a Olympic Gold medal. This put Spore on the history book of Olympic for the world to see for ages. He has already done his part& can even retire liow. What he is doing now is jus to clock more Olympic medals if he can so tat no one in Spore can overtake him in the future.

Anonymous said...

@Virgo 49

No need to worry, when the times comes it will be his payback time.

Ⓜatilah $ingapura⚠️ said...

@ RB (still doesn't get it)

I see you still lak bo kiew. No matter. It's not ONLY about the numbers. It's about the DISTRIBUTION.

Frog Outside Glass said...

Another Sign Singapore's Leadership Quality Is On The Decline

In Aug this year, Education Minister Ong Ye Kung made a shocking revelation in Parliament that his Ministry spends about a whopping $238 Million a year of Taxpayers for free scholarship grants to Foreigners, in responding to a question by Workers’ Party’s Non-constituency Member of Parliament (MP) Leon Perera, who asked about the Government’s spending on foreign students.

https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/moe-spends-s238-million-yearly-scholarships-and-tuition-grants-foreign-students

In December this year, many are expecting the arrival of Santa Claus during Chirstmas Time. Two batches of India Indians are arriving as FREE-LOADERS under Scholarships, using taxpayers' money, with the explicit invitation of the Singapore LHL Government, through the Millionaire Minister Ong Yes Koon.

These FREE-LOADERS have been chosen via a purposeful-sent team of experts from MOE to India, staying at 5-stars hotel, to interview and entice them with huge monetary carrots and perks of daily pocket money and private tuition and free dormitory lodging for 4 years -

total cost for each of these 200 foreign children (13-15 years old) per year is not less than $25,000.

They will start in Secondary 3 and proceed to Junior college.

They are helped by mentors, private tutors, and home adoptions. All arranged and paid for by MOE using taxpayers' money. (Approved by PM LHL probably?)

YET MOE's SHAMEFULLY SHAMELESSLY SHAMEFUL LONG-STANDING PRACTICE IS TO SHAME OUR PRIMARY SIX 12-year-old pupil publicly, just because her parents are financially incapacitated for two years to pay for a mere $156 of arrears of MISCELLANEOUS FEE!

Why the (TOP) authority in (泱泱)祖国(巍巍中华) named the two NEW hospitals "Fire Deity Mountain" (Huoshenshan, 火神山) and "Lightning Deity Mountain" (Leishenshan, 雷神山)??? said...

Quote of the day:

By
Anonymous December 13, 2019 9:07 am (WSG)

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Ya agreed esp for seniors no more economic contribution is a burden to society from their view. Some more u wanted then to spend money on seniors u tan ku ku lar

WSG

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Hell-o P(ioneer)G and M(erdeka)G Uncle (Ol-dies) Redbean, Virgo49 and Patrait (respective李)

This WSG mouth(piece of the xxxx xxxx BEE) has SPOKEN?

Still harbouring un李listic HO-pe of the xxxx xxxx BEE "throwing" some "incarcerated QUAH CHA PNG" (loose) ka-CHING (coins) into the hat(e)s of your out-stretched ARMS (alms?) ?

Uncle RB, begging for alms (like a beggar) in the streets from kind hearted passing by strangers is MORE dig李fied (and HO-pefull) than what u just did?

No?

In the jungle, you can get sentimental when getting old but the animal predators such as hyenas WILL NOT?

You think in the jungle, the (merciless) hyenas will be merciful if you weep, cry, wail, beg and go down on your (bended) knees?

They won't pounce on you and devour you (till "you" are boneless? Yea, hyenas strong teeth can crush and turn bones into minced pork ... ) ...? ("you" in inverted comma cos when (your) bones are also gone, where to find "you"?)

Anonymous said...

@Matilah, @RB, @All,

///@ RB (still doesn't get it)
I see you still lak bo kiew. No matter. It's not ONLY about the numbers. It's about the DISTRIBUTION.///

OK ... To put it in simple terms that LOSERS on this blog understand:-

1 Olympic gold medal is worth more than 1,000,000 SEA Games gold medals .... or 1,000,000,000,000 Masters gold medals.

Instinctively most humans KNOW THIS .... that's why when you talk to people on the streets they will naturally pick the Olympic medal over SEA Games medal or whatever primary school-versus-school medal.

It's only when your OWN EGO is at stake or involved, then your BIASNESS takes over ... and LOGIC & RATIONALITY is flushed down the toilet.

Commitment bias --- Whitney Tilson has been talking about it recently.

WSG

Frog Outside Glass said...

Amendment @1025 am:

"Millionaire Minister Ong Yes Koon" should read as:

"Millionaire Minister Ong Yee Kung" instead.

Apologises for "Auto-correct" function errors.

Anonymous said...

It doesn't matter now, most who read this blog knew who lah.

Anonymous said...

Me cudnt agree more, u r absolutely correct!

Virgo 49 said...

Just a swallow. Dont make a Summer.

By arse luck. Now even.cannot even win in kuching kurap SEA Games. What's more in ASIAN Games where you have Japan and China swimmers.

Forget about Olympic. Better go and serve your National Service.

This is the favoritism of the PAP Elites who just brought some glory to their Pompous brains.

Virgo 49 said...

Without US you be wearing singlets without pants or pants without singlets.

Anonymous said...

If not wrong his deferment is until 2020 Olympic Games, after tat depending on his performance he might go Ns if he do poorly, chances r his Ns will be a 'cushion' one ( anyway who wanto tekan this fellow? ) the G might put him in a more 'relac' environ, maybe BeeMT he juz suffer a bit but many will 'protect' him wan la, remember in Sinkieland there r so many ball carriers definitely will angkat Ballard wan lah.

Anonymous said...

To put it plainly, discard ur Masters Athletic Gold medal dream & go pursue the Olympics Gold Medal dream ( no matter ur age) so the PAPies will come begging u to wear ur Olympics Gold medal again, u be treated like a senior hero who at this age can also win Olympic Gold Medal, prove it to the govt tat impossible is nothing or nothing is impossible!

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Anonymous said...

//...Supporting the masters athletes is value for money. Also to make good all the talks about appreciating the senior citizens, to stay healthy and active in the golden age. The least that the govt could do is to support the masters athletes at the same level as para athletes. Is this too much to ask?...//

If this is change to pursue Olympic Gold Medal dream, perhaps the PAPies may consider tat but then they may gauge your potential and said ( maybe its worth or not the investments?).
The govt don't care wat medals tat u win, but if tat medal is very rare (like the Olympics Gold medal tat Joseph Schooling won) that will make the difference.
What that's world Masters Athletic Gold medal, its like booyah ...

Anonymous said...

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Virgo 49 said...

Dotard is too jealous lah.

What's in a Name?

How much time he has balance?

Turn to ashes when cremated.

Ate by worms and leeches when buried.

All come to naught.

Frog Outside Glass said...

Uncle RB, tell all your old runners to wear Apple Watches lah. Like that not only Sinkieland Get-Rich-Quick Millionaire Ministers will notice, Apple CEO may also pay for your team of Masters in any future International events.


#Tim Cook

@tim_cook
When you bring everything you are to everything you do, it’s amazing what’s possible. Paralympian @theresagoh_ is a force inside and outside the pool. Loved seeing how you use Apple Watch to take your training to the next level! 🏊‍♀️⌚️

Virgo 49 said...

What to do? Daft sinkies voted the Sinkie Indian Leaders into POWER! The Chinkee Sinkies Leaders all kena castigated and became eunuchs bullying only their own.

Dafts Sinkies deserved their fates.

Chinkees round the world the same..only infighting among their own and exterminated only their own.

Just look at Taiwan, Hong Kong and Sinking Land as good examples.

Why the (TOP) authority in (泱泱)祖国(巍巍中华) named the two NEW hospitals "Fire Deity Mountain" (Huoshenshan, 火神山) and "Lightning Deity Mountain" (Leishenshan, 雷神山)??? said...

麚鐐BEE CMI Waste OODecember 13, 2019 10:31 am

Quote of the day:

By
Anonymous December 13, 2019 9:07 am (WSG)

Quote

Ya agreed esp for seniors no more economic contribution is a burden to society from their view. Some more u wanted then to spend money on seniors u tan ku ku lar

WSG

Unquote


Hell-o P(ioneer)G and M(erdeka)G Uncle (Ol-dies) Redbean, Virgo49 and Patrait (respective李)

This WSG mouth(piece of the xxxx xxxx BEE) has SPOKEN?

Still harbouring un李listic HO-pe of the xxxx xxxx BEE "throwing" some "incarcerated QUAH CHA PNG" (loose) ka-CHING (coins) into the hat(e)s of your out-stretched ARMS (alms?) ?

Uncle RB, begging for alms (like a beggar) in the streets from kind hearted passing by strangers is MORE dig李fied (and HO-pefull) than what u just did?

No?

In the jungle, you can get sentimental when getting old but the animal predators such as hyenas WILL NOT?

You think in the jungle, the (merciless) hyenas will be merciful if you weep, cry, wail, beg and go down on your (bended) knees?

They won't pounce on you and devour you (till "you" are boneless? Yea, hyenas strong teeth can crush and turn bones into minced pork ... ) ...? ("you" in inverted comma cos when (your) bones are also gone, where to find "you"?)

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Virgo 49December 13, 2019 11:14 am

Without US you be wearing singlets without pants or pants without singlets.




Virgo 49 December 13, 2019 11:14 am
///Without US you be wearing singlets without pants or pants without singlets.///


EXACTLY

Strawberry G felt so indignant (that you all PG and MG being treated like over juiced and crushed sugar cane and "discarded" like that by the xxxx xxxx BEE and) this WSG spoke so heartlessly, callously and as if a matter of fact?

Without GREAT PG and MG such as you (VIRGO69), Uncles REDBEAN and patrait respective李,厁板 (sampan) 会在那里?

WSG and his xxxx xxxx BEE xxxx - IMBECILES!?

How can they say, think and do things like that (behind the scene) to the ol-dies?

Wayang wayang talk talk must respect the seniors but where is the walk (action)?

As always, look at what they do, NOT what they say (especially the little sweet nothings whispered into VIRGO49 and Redbean and Patrait and many many ol-dies 耳朵)?

Virgo49, believe the sweet nothings they whispered into your 耳朵 while caressing you at your (own) peril?

Anonymous said...

Redbean
- the PAP government "see you no up".

It's useless to argue with the PAP government.
- PAP is determined not to give any recognition to the Masters athletes.

Anonymous said...

@anon 3.05pm

The PAPIES r not a 'Sucker for you' tat it's so ez to get suck by ang dao tng lah, watever they do they wud juz suck u dry till the last drop, their motto of what's wrong with collecting more monies always applies, so don't expect anything from the PAPIES else u be suck dry, everyone in this red dot knows when the PAPIES give u one chicken wing they one the whole entire chicken back & they even got the cheek to get back from you another chicken & another chicken with eggs & so on ..no end unless u guys VTO them like the Brits.

Anonymous said...

The PAPpies' motto is

"Suck You Dry!".

Not the other way round.

Anonymous said...

Hello. Don't any how say Hor. We have the best govt liao.

WSG

Anonymous said...

In Singapore, sports and any outside activities take second place to tuitions. So how to excel in sporting activities? Also cannot tahan the sun, too hot. Better in the tuition room, comfortable and cool. Right? Parents are not too keen to see their kids excel in sports, better to achieve A*s. Singapore is rich, can always entice PRC sportsman and sportsladies to win gold medals so that the PAP can howlian.

Anonymous said...

Sure or not...u mean the 4G lot meh..

Anonymous said...

..or u mean "dry u suck"
Poor or no income they also suck lah..really poor thing in this tiny island

Anonymous said...

That's why no more ministry of Sports lah, to them its "poke gai" (or monies goes down the drain in Sports investments ).

Anonymous said...

Goh the Deadwood wasted a lot of taxpayer's money for his stupid idea of World Cup 2000 goal.

He is one who talks big dreams for Singapore but failed miserably to achieve anything.

The only thing he has achieved was to tax and more tax. His ERP, COE, CPF, GST, Asset Enhancement and Vehicles Inspections are all gimmicks to suck up money from Singaporeans' pockets.

His Swiss Standards of Living was only meant for himself and his ministers.


Anonymous said...

Rest of South East Asia countries have improved.
Sgp perhaps lay the net too big.