3/01/2018

China has no military allies

This is the sneer the Americans keep broadcasting to the world and its allies. China may not have military allies, but it has friends all over the world and is the top and second biggest trading partners of more than 100 countries. China does not need military allies for two main reasons. One, China does not aspire to be a hegemon military Empire and has renounced war as an option to settle differences between states. China does not seek to threaten any country with sanctions or with wars. Two, China is now more than capable of defending itself against any external threat from the Americans or a combined force of hostile military allies.
 

Is China concerned about the Quad, the encirclement by the American Empire, or the military exercises conducted by a pretentious regional power like India? With China’s military might today, and growing, soon it would have at least 6 aircraft carriers, China is not even bothered by the threats of an American preemptive strike or an all out war. As far as India is concerned, it is irrelevant, insignificant and would at most be a pin prick irritant. China could overrun India any time if India did the foolish thing again.
 

India is positioning itself as a regional power and aspiring to be a superpower with a third world economy and infrastructure. All the silly countries that think India is going to be a super power and eager to be a part of this ‘great super power’ and India as their regional master are welcome to defer to this ‘great’ military power that has never won a war except to bully its small neighbours and treating them as semi colonies.
 

Even if India is to form a military pact with the 16 countries that are holding a joint military exercise, it would at best be a joke. Economically, militarily, in science and technology, India is still a third world country in every aspect. And these countries want to call India boss?
 

Would China be worried about a little ant crawling around when it is in contention with the USA to be the Number One super power in all fields? India is just not in the super power league for another half a century at least, if it ever gets there.

32 comments:

Anonymous said...

It may appear that China has got no military allies. Who knows in time of a real war China might even have military allies. Who knows NK or Russia may even be China's allies. China Chinese majority don't like war as they had experienced it before in their 5000years of history. China Chinese people r experienced warring nation & had many military experts ( in the past u have Sun Tzi Art of War, Wu Zi, Bai Qi, Zhu Ge Liang, Huang Shi Gong, Tai Ging Bing Fa & many many more..) in terms of warring Generals there r many too Like Guan Yu, Yue Fei, and many moderns ones. In moderns times u have Mao Zedong, Deng Xiao Ping, now Xi JinPing. China has no lack of military talents & might, the Chinese r hardworking smart peasants & r peacemakers, they would go all out to protect their territories & wouldn't settle less when be attacked. Their military might will serve as a deterrent against any aggressors who tries to test China military might.

Virgo49 said...


Aiyo, tell the Ah Nehs go and built their Toilets first before they want to hassle China. Ask them to polish their toe nails and have drills just to have road side shows banging their balls till got hernia.

China one squad can slaughter one company of their tummies with samsu liquor soldiers and one battalion can take on their three brigades.

Wake up.

Anonymous said...

One Question Redbean,


WHERE DOES SINGAPORE STAND IN ALL THIS ??????

Can you answer this question??

Ⓜatilah $ingapura⚠️ said...

I think the Indian politicians are starting to believe too much in their own hubris. I also suspect there is a bit of national pride and jealousy in the mix.

China is quickly getting its shit together militarily. And they have so far allocated resources well. Cyberwarfare---they and the Russians are the top. China's missile defences are far superior to even the US, Israel etc. They may not yet have the might of the awesome USA---yet---but their missile systems are bloody great. Good luck to any contenders who would try an air or sea-based assault on Chinese territory.

China is also quickly abandoning the "cheap and nasty" manufacturing and is propelling itself very quickly up the "value chain" to become a tech juggernaut. IMO, this is one of the reasons India is a little pissed. China is going to overtake India in tech and innovation if present trends continue.

Let's talk STEM education. Both China and India are big on STEM, but the number of Chinese engineering and science graduates coming into the market every year is enough to populate a small cuntry. They don't have "useless degrees" like they do in western cuntries...for e.g.: Women and gender studies, liberal arts, religious studies, and other useless frippery in academia.

In time, China will find its allies. Geo politics is like that. Humans form relationships...its a messy process because human beings are quirky, and complicated.

Ⓜatilah $ingapura⚠️ said...

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Rocket Man said...

Irrespective of whatever conditions, developments and situations, China must NOT be lulled, fooled or pulled into complacency again, like what had happened one hundred years ago. The painful and humiliating events should be strong lessons enough to last a thousand years!

Anonymous said...

"One Question Redbean,


WHERE DOES SINGAPORE STAND IN ALL THIS ??????

Can you answer this question??"

This question you must ask

The PM, Lee Hsien Loong or his

Pro-India Indian Foreign Minister, or his

Pro-India Indian Law Minister, or his

Pro-India Indian DPM, or

his Indian Chief Justice, or

his Indian-disguised-as-Malay Non-Elected PuppetPresident.

Does that answer your question, Daft Sinkie?

Dark As Dark Can Be! said...

Singapore has been playing a double-talk of putting one leg in the western boat and another in the eastern boat all the while. When the Old Man was around, the balancing act was relatively well played. However, after his death, his son has not been able to display the same skill as his father. His tail has been exposed. So, he uses magic to turn this tail into a third leg and place it in another boat, called the Indian Boat of Simplicity.

At present, Singapore is trying to balance with THREE legs. Next it may have to grow another leg, in order to balance with FOUR legs.

Get the drift?

By: Dark as Dark Can Be.

Anonymous said...

India has reason to be unhappy with china. China supports Pakis. Building ports inside Pakis, roads/rails from Ports all the way to China. Now Vietnam factories can ship their cargo to Chengdu. This hub can send the cargo to Poland in 16 days. If go by sea route through port in one small powerful country, then through India ocean, the route takes 40days. Srilangkar elected pro china ex president. India is isolated. So Oz PM want India and Japan to work with him to present his proposed agenda to US supreme commander Trump how to surround China in his recent trip last month.

China is good at trades. Fighting is the last thing the chinese want. Japan can take senkaku island, and work closely like brother with Taiwan. US can pass laws for fleets to dock at Taiwan, allow Taiwan president to visit US, china politicians avoid such areas. How good is PLA in fight, there is no record. The last was in 1979. China did badly with Vietnam. However, PLA is now equipped with modern weapons and missiles. Vietnam has yet to test it out. Will Vietnam want to be loser this time?

Modern weapons like missiles top up with mass killing gas or heat bombs are not easy to avoid in war. North Korea has them. China has them. Pakis has them. US OZ want to test them? They know the war is not easy to fight even with small poor country North Korea.

One cannot look at war like in World war 2 movies. Where soldiers charged up hills running. One still see in Aleppo war. At the end, these IsIs warriors all mati. In Ghouta, the 20000 alqueda and rebels are now replenished with machine guns and new uniforms ready for war due to the UN called ceased fire. Will US supported rebels win?
These rebels should have been supported by external forces likely to be funded from the rich oil states. They run around in tunnels while putting 400000 civilians lives as advertisements on twitters.

So what kind of war can India navy organize with 16 countries? One Maldives refused to participate. The 16 included Cambodia. Not to forget the powerful smallest country. All these navies are untested, including PLA. Dont even look at them if anyone wants war. Will the other 15 join them for war? Tankuku.

From looking at middle east war like Ghouta now, die for war should be the most potent weapon, together with manpack missiles, heavy machine guns. Big ships carrying planes are good for transportation of missiles and bombers to fight far distance war away from main land. If North Korea were to fight the war, it needs not fleets as invasion into its borders will be the war North Koreans want to fight. If US want to fight, it will have to spend billions to build up fleets to bring soldiers to North Korea to die. The cost is huge and no guarantee success. The same applies to Modi s navy and also PLA navy. These 2 countries can hardly fight far from main land wars. No need to mention these Nato: Oz, Japan, India. Not US. If US lead asia nato to fight say china, the main show will be done by US. Will US want to lose the war?

US China are such countries now that they avoid showing their weaknesses in war. If they invade a country like North Korea or Vietnam, they have no guarantee to win the war. Therefore, the hardware are for show, like farari parking outside neighbor s front. The real fighters are toyota corrolla everyone can use. India even its catch up with fleets, so what? Missiles and submarines will sink all of them in real war. Same applies to US and China s fleets. The message is: do not invade. That could be reason PLA do not invade Taiwan. Taiwan ruling politicians have been claiming it is an independent sovereign state. What can PLA do? Can only threaten verbally and sabotage by chinese economic power. What can India do? Both powers Modi does not have them at tip top formations.

Anonymous said...

@ Dark As Dark Can Be!March 01, 2018 10:28 am
//Singapore has been playing a double-talk of putting one leg in the western boat and another in the eastern boat all the while. When the Old Man was around, the balancing act was relatively well played. However, after his death, his son has not been able to display the same skill as his father. His tail has been exposed. So, he uses magic to turn this tail into a third leg and place it in another boat, called the Indian Boat of Simplicity.
At present, Singapore is trying to balance with THREE legs. Next it may have to grow another leg, in order to balance with FOUR legs.
Get the drift?
By: Dark as Dark Can Be.//



Divine had sent a jinx whore to tear the peesau apart just like heaven sent Eunuch Zhao Gao during the BC 200+ to send the Qin Dynasty into the gallows of history?

Zhao Gao was existed by several sidekicks with the same task aka GoaLao, TakBo ...?

TakBo got an empty best FM accolade at the cost of abt US$ 1 Billion?

Squander here squander there billions of PIG EYE SEE scheme, skew-d-tiuture ...?

Now near the end have to gng png tqx here tax there (becum laughing stock)?

Have lo(ooooo)g gone b3yond the pt of NO RETURN?

Just like Eunuch Zhao Gao replaceD all the capable generals and officials installed by th3 dead First Emperor with (useless & Jiat Sai) PLPs and when Zhao Gao said the deer is a horse, no one will say otherwise and the PLPs will concur?

The ending?

A monumental collapse ... in BC 207?

Anonymous said...

GoaLao, CFK (CHICKEN) etc 2G all cui Tak LAN?

All EUNUCHNISED and (becum) ah qua liao?

Many of the young generations look down and sneered at such spineless useless 2G grandfathers, grandmothers (and middle finger behind their backs)?

They still yayapapaya think the pretence of the younger generations really have respect for them?

Just want yall BIG FAT angpao lah ...

Behind their backs, many in the younger generations heart 3xclaim aloud ah kong ah ma, ye ye nai nai .... sucks ..... screwed up th3 future and NO RETURN le

Just simply want to live out their twilight years in cowardice ...?

Waiting for them to sell salted eggs and get their inheritance lah ....

What ah kong ah ma, sell their futures (2 d PAPigs) already ...

Faster go sell salted eggs and transfer the wealth to the younger generations (so that can pack luggage and nvr turn back)

Anonymous said...

@anon 10.15am

u r right. Sinkieland Ah Long san r all pro- Ah Neh Liao.
In Parliament yesterday WP Ah Kiang wanto wake up the PAPies & Long san to leverage on China & not to b used as pawn by other Superpower, according to Ah Kiang Sinkieland should be the SE Asian node or be irrelevant. Using the Gst hike as distraction, Sinkieland missed the opportunity to further improve its economy thru innovation & technology while its competitor HK had even more budget surplus to do more in innovation, technology & tax reliefs for its citizens. Sinkieland tend to lose more in Asian economy for the years to come, collecting more taxes indiscriminately will cost the country competitiveness even more & cos severe income/social inequality.

Anonymous said...

The pri sch kids and teenagers are NOT as ignorant as the 2G JLBs think?

Many know their future kena sold out?

Just past 2 weeks, one neighbouring pri sch boy screamed at the grandmother and stormed out the house and asked his mother to faster leave

Yall really think the youngsters dunno what the 2G did to their future?

Now eveLEE thing just kicking the CANS down the road for the younger generations to pick up the SHITS in the future while the 2G safely and peacefully live out their twilight years (in cowardice)?

Anonymous said...

BS pls hire sinkie engineers. No more mumbai trained. This line is very very new. Siganlling fault. Oredi repaired correct?
"DTL SVC twds Expo & Bukit Panjang is delayed due to signalling fault. Add'l travel time of up to 15mins may be expected. Recovery works in progress. We are sorry."

Anonymous said...

>>>China has renounced war as an option.

Wat? There are only two nations in the world where that is official policy. Costa Rica which abolished her military and Japan, whose soldiers are legally civil servants rather than soldiers under a military justice system.

Also, China has one treaty ally, the DPRK. Though that alliance is fraying considering Kim kicking over Chinas chessboard regarding North East Asia

Words have meaning. Learn them.

Anonymous said...

Harakiri cmi brand new line less than 6 months signalling fault?

Chio si lang?

Maciam less than 6 mth old $1 m royce roy breakdown?

But new line how many billions spent?

Worst than a $1 m royce roy?

Anonymous said...

A level results released now uni competing for new intake?

NTU ambassador: "10 reasons y NUT better than SMU?"

1. Out of 6 lines green, red, purple, yellow, blue ... brown, 5 lines can breakdown

2. NUT no such problem

Chio si lang?

Sicko mrt breakfown oso becum selling pt among uni competing for new intake?

The harakiri JLB in their cloud scrapping IVORY TOWER still smoking some pot and in their dreamland?

Now the incompetency if harakiri mrt even being used among uni ambassador competing for new intake?

No eyes to see ...

Anonymous said...

12:44pm
Hire one fake engineer to repair your ferari, u know it will cause fire when running on the road. Repair mrt is high tension power equipment, fake engineers do properly trained can only help those trains made 50 years ago in india.

Can u imagine, all the color lines are not reliable after the foreign talents come in 2.5 millions? They can check these are graduates from mumbai, but whether the hired went for classes or cheated in exam or copied in thesis, there is no way to check. Remember once LRT riser room caught fire? how could fire happen in electrical room? can guess lah. Xgx had UPS not charged, how can IT trained people dont know UPS? Heard about "wrong" program loaded in xgx software?
Now u see the signalling problem causes all kinds: the most beautiful one was a stopped train suddenly dashed forward to crash at the front train resulted 39 injured, some heard was broken somewhere, the media never want to go into details bc it was "in contact" only.
Time to vote for alternative ie do not vote for Pap to cause foreigners to come into. It is getting dangerous with more foreigners taking over the main institutions. What foreigners are useful? They should take over NS for youths to take over proper jobs at 18. Foreigners taking over army will not cause problems to trains and other service. No need army here at all. Bay fight, boh spirit to fight.

Ⓜatilah $ingapura⚠️ said...

@ RB

Eh tambi, the shit that is happening in China can go sideways lah. Xi want to remove presidential term limits and (I suspect) try to be the Lee Kuan Yew of China.

Sure, if he gets it "right" maybe China could be a scaled up version of the Singapore model...i.e. fucking rich and awesome.

But if he messes up, the worse case scenario is civil war and the eventual breakup of China into many independent states.

If you look at the math (probability), failure is "easier" to attain than success, because there will always be more ways to fail than to succeed.

I'd say that if China removes presidential term limits and opts for a "strongman" leadership diminishing the power and influence of consensus, along with the "safety" consensus brings, that would be a major game-changer.

You know darn well that if they opt for the "strongman" model, and the tendency of that model to fail, outside influences and interlopers will come to kacau and try to fuck up the show. That you can bet on lah.

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

Anon 10:47am

'How good is PLA in fight, there is no record. The last was in 1979. China did badly with Vietnam. However, PLA is now equipped with modern weapons and missiles. Vietnam has yet to test it out. Will Vietnam want to be loser this time?'

Your post exposes how little you know about east Asian history and modern warfare. When the Americans chased the N Koreans to the Yalu River, they thought they were invincible. With air superiority and superiority in all military hardware, MacArthur even flirted with the idea of marching into China.

Who do you think chased them all the way from the Yalu River to the 38 parallel and they had to call a truce?

What do you know of the humiliating defeat of the India 4th Army Corp in the 1962 Sino Indian border war?

You believed every bit the western media wrote about Vietnam giving China a lesson in their border war. The fact, China demanded Vietnam to withdraw from Laos and Cambodia. If Vietnam did give China a lesson, would they quai quai withdraw their mighty armies from Laos and Cambodia? Inadvertently you let the cat out of the back by asking, 'Will Vietnam want to be loser this time?'

China also fought a naval battle with the Vietnamese to take back islands seized by the Vietnamese quite recently.

China fought three wars and won after 1949 and assisted the Vietnamese to defeat the Americans.

As for your knowledge on modern warfare, you need to read more, find out more about the use of technology, satellites, computers, drones etc etc. Modern warfare is no longer simply fighting with weapons and military hardware. It is a very complex system involving combined forces and employing hi tech and cyber technology and many sophisticated technologies.

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

Anonymous 12:37am said...

>>>China has renounced war as an option.

Wat? There are only two nations in the world where that is official policy. Costa Rica which abolished her military and Japan, whose soldiers are legally civil servants rather than soldiers under a military justice system.


You believed what you said about the Japanese? You believed the Japanese Self Defence Forces are a force for self defence? The Japanese SDF is the biggest and most powerful armed forces in Asia second only to China, much more powerful than India or the whole of Asean combined. Their soldiers are civil servants, you mean like our Civil Defence Force, weak, timid and harmless?

Open your eyes please. This is a very aggressive armed forces, more aggressive than the Indians or the North Koreans.

b said...

Naturally usofa is scare of china. China can be economic number one but if china is also military number one, it is very scary to usofa and allies. China better do it secretly. Blessed are the meek for they shall inherit the earth.

Anonymous said...

Trump is pushing Moon to re start the global biggest war game. North Korea Chol the vice chairman of North Korea had told South Intelligence chief North s objection before he went back.

Trump at meantime up the scale of sanctions. Trump told governors:
"Addressing a gathering of state governors at the White House, Trump lauded China for its efforts to curb North Korea’s economic activity but said "Russia is sending in what China is taking out".

US nuclear chief also place Russia as first existential enemy, North is potential and China is "catching up".

In other words, if piecing together, US strategic commanders treat Russia as first enemy and North the second. When in Asia decision, North will be targeted whether Kim Jong Un gives up nuclear or not.
US Trump is trying hard to pull China to US side against North Korea and Russia.

US is using Taiwan to subdue China s interest to support North Korea. Therefore the game is changing fast. Russia is trying to help North to negotiate with South. US is trying hard to stay away to negotiate with North, while pushing hard to start the drills to prepare to invade North.

Ending question: will South invade the North? If North could prevent South s troops joining the invasion, North estimates US dare not to go it alone to invade North. It will be similar war like Kosovo. US Albright could dare only to bomb Kosovo. Nothing was done except damages. North should be prepared for this only? Kim if daring may fire missiles on all US bases in Asia. The death with chemical weapons will be serious by thousands. If by conventional bombs, US will still cannot function as normal in Asia. If war starts, Russia is likely to supply North with arsenals. Changi residents might need to buy helmet.

Anonymous said...

China will never trust the evil Americans.

Anonymous said...

Lao hero 3.37pm //Inadvertently you let the cat out of the back by asking, 'Will Vietnam want to be loser this time?'//


"... cat out of the back ... "?

Anon 10.47am doesnt have cat at the back lah, hehe ...

Mb "pussy" at the back ...? (To be sodomised?)

Anonymous said...

Well-admired Russian President Vladimir Putin used his state-of-the-nation speech on Thursday (March 1) to deliver a stern warning to the United States that Russia has a series of new high-technology nuclear weapons that he said can overcome any defences.

“Efforts to contain Russia have failed, face it,” Mr Putin said in a nearly two-hour address he illustrated with video clips of the new arms, which included underwater drones, intercontinental missiles and a hypersonic system he said “heads for its target like a meteorite". “Nobody listened to us. Listen now,” he said.

Anonymous said...

The American system is in deep rot & decay ...?

In Chapter 5 (pp. 109) of Economics Nobel Laureate Columbia Uni Prof Joseph Stiglitz 2010 book, he entitled it "The Great American Robbery" to describe their banking system ...

When noboLEE can right their banking system fat cats' perverse incentive of destructive forces in a decaying system, it is headed for demise in time to come ...?

When those who are accountable for the biggest financial carnage & mess since the 1920s are rewarded billions & billions, & their central bank mopped up their toxic balance sheet with instant money & transferred to their taxpayers in the form of US$2.8 trillion dubious assets (far over-valued securities), all the inherent excesses of ownselves protecting ownselves ala GoaLao 2015 GE gaffe, it is not if but when ...?

As the chn said, all the crows worldwide under the sky are hell-black ...

Anonymous said...

8.27pm //“Efforts to contain Russia have failed, face it,” Mr Putin said in a nearly two-hour address he illustrated with video clips of the new arms, which included underwater drones, intercontinental missiles and a hypersonic system he said “heads for its target like a meteorite". “Nobody listened to us. Listen now,” he said.//



Many of their astrophysicists, scientists etc are in the financial market concocting the next financial nuclear innovative product far worst than the toxic mortgaged back securities that almost took down the global financial system in 2008 ...?

On their own, they already cannot win any war start from finish as witnessed in the 1950s & 1970s?

Their previous "victories" in ww2 were at the expense of exhausted opponents Germany fighting the Russians with deaths of more than 35 millions and the Japenise fighting the Chinese with a toll in excess of 30 millions ...?

Anonymous said...

Great men, great words !

A very prescient LKY told China's former leader Deng Xiaoping: "You're able to catch up with us, even better than Singapore, and there's no problem at all," Lee said. "We are only the descendants of illiterate, landless farmers in Fujian, Guangdong and other places, but many of you are the descendants of officials and scholars."

Both Deng and Lee believed a country should be led by competent people and a strong leader with a global view.

ZaoBao once reported that Xi Jinping, before he became President, had visited Singapore four times when he served in Fujian Province.

The majority of people in both countries are Chinese and have same cultural roots.

India should bear that in mind.





Anonymous said...

Putin said any use of nuclear weapons against Russia s allies, be it small, medium scale. simi scale, will be treated as attacking Russia. Russia s response will be INSTANT.

Is North Korea Russia s ally? Trump better be very careful on his choice of weapons in coming war with North Korea.

Russia wants a conventional war if US wants to attack North Korea.

Now US kick its own ass. Boh wei kong, nothing to say, stunt liao.

Black Cobra or Indian More Dangerous? said...

There is no way the Indians can take over Singapore. Some of those Indian Singaporean Ministers may think they have the power to convert Singapore into a semi-India colony by aligning with and leaning towards India. And by influencing the PM to import more Indians to replace the Chinese and Malay Singaporeans. They had better think deep and hard.

If they are too overly ambitious they may find themselves in deep shit. The Chinese and Malays may view them as traitors and deal with them accordingly. Selling out the country to one's ancestral motherland, if can be done so easily, the Chinese MAJORITY would have done so under LKY long ago.

By the way, the Malays and Chinese have common ancestors and common DNA. They can get along more easily with one another. Whereas the Indians have always been at logger-head with the Chinese traditionally, culturally and historically. This fact must remain in the calculations of all situations - present and future.

Another point to note is that the SAF is manned by mostly Chinese Singaporeans. When the need arises, they may take action to ensure that the MAJORITY Chinese do not become the MINORITY#

Anonymous said...

In a speech that ran to almost two hours, Russian President Vladimir Putin showed tests of a new missile system that he said could fly at 20 times the speed of sound and manoeuvre up and down, and is not owned by any other country.

"This makes it absolutely invincible for any forms of air and missile defence," he said, calling it an "ideal weapon".

Russia has also developed unmanned underwater devices that move much faster than submarines and torpedoes and can carry nuclear warheads, Putin said, adding: "It's just fantastic!"