12/31/2016

Singapore bought Australian land for military training




I read this in the statestimesreview. ‘Singapore is paying S$2.34 billion to Australia to rent over 200,000 hectares – the size of 4 Singapore land mass – in Townsville North Queensland for 25 years to test long-range missiles. The lucrative deal signed in October is however blocked by local farmers who refuse to sell their land.’

I must say this is any time a better decision than buying 12 F35s for about the same amount of money, 200,000 hectares or 4 times the size of Singapore or about 1 cent per sq ft.  How would anyone think of spending $2.34 billion for 12 toys that could go kaput anytime and could be stored in a hangar half the size of a football field?

Singapore should negotiate for longer tenure, maybe 99 years, then we can have a small population of soldier boys and their families living in Australia to relieve the lost of land that would be built to house more foreigners.  But our crazy policy of wasting land to sell to more foreigners, we have depleted whatever land for military use, to house our soldiers and military hardware.  We have no room for our boys to defend our country.  By the time they get back home with their hardware the island would have fallen, taken over. How can a country have its soldiers all overseas leaving a token force on home ground? Though the solution of acquiring land in Australia may not be ideal, as least it is a way out until the sickos understand what they are doing to our little island and why building and building more flats to be filled with more foreign bodies is a khong cum thing to do.

This temporary solution buys us 25 years of time and not to be held hostage or at ransom should countries hosting our facilities decided to up the rentals/usage of their land annually. And hope also there is no threats of war during this period. But 25 years is a flash in the pan and the problem arises again, just like our water agreements with Malaysia. When the landlord decides to up the fees or to kick our soldier boys out, then what, just like when we hit 6.9m or 10m, then what?

The solution must be more permanent and sustainable. Reclaiming land to bring in more bodies is like filling water in a pail full of holes and will lead to very serious problems in the long run, with more heads, more consumption but producing nothing, limited land, resources, water, energy, how could this be allowed to go on and on? It is a foolish formula, a game that fools will play and think they could get a way with it. But the fools need not have to answer for it as they would be long dead when the roof starts falling down.

Know the limitations of our land and resources and work within these limits is the only way to go.

46 comments:

The Dragon Fly said...

Desperate leaders of desperate tiny countries need desperate solutions during desperate times.

Simply grasp at any straw that is temporarily viable - and call it pragmatism.

Actually, it means there is no vision, no clue as to what is going to happen, and no plan for a long-term and more sustainable solution. Bookworms are bookworms. School-boys are school-boys.

They can never grow up to be a fully matured man. Why? Because they still like to play with toys and toy soldiers.

Anonymous said...

Aussieland is a vast piece of land to practice our army boys their military toys capability in time of a real war in Sinkieland. One disadvantage is it's too far, in time of war Sinkieland would be wipe out by the time reinforcements come. Sinkieland need to think out of the box & be innovative. How bout training in India ah neh islands, Pinoy islands, Hainan ( alternative locations of ROC), reclaimed land, movable platform ( but how?)...it seems the miws gahmen preparing for potential threats of neighbours, how bout internally is also a potential threats ( like the Romans Trojan horse, many FT could become enemies in desperate times)..look like Sinkieland future look bleak in security & economic front & it's D-Day could be near soon as a mass exodus of rich & middle class Sinkies go away in search of greener pastures.

Anonymous said...

/// Know the limitations of our land and resources and work within these limits is the only way to go. ///

Know the limitations of our PAP and our PAP scholars; and support our Opposition political parties by voting for them in GE 202 is the only way to go.

True or not?

Anonymous said...

/// Singapore bought Australian land for military training ///

Isn't it more accurate to say:
"PAP government bought Australian land for military training" ???

Anonymous said...

"PAP government replaced Singaporean talent with Foreign Talent in Singapore?"

Is the above true or false?

Anonymous said...

If we get a 99 years lease can sg build a second Singaoore there with offices and industries or the zoning law at that kind of 1 cent psf price, only only allow sg to bomb that place by SAF?

Anonymous said...

Singapore is buying the Australian land to test long range missiles lah. In Singapore how to test without hitting our neighbours, u tell me lah?

This will also serve as a deterrent against countries who want to attack us through military means. We are serving notice to these countries not to play play with Sinkieland, u know. Or else our missiles will turn their capital cities into another Aleppo. So it is a lose lose war for all if they want to attack us.

Singapore's military strategy is not to fight in the first place. So that our generals can become CEOs of GLCs as well, and our NS Sinkies no need to die also. Good or not, u say lah?

patriot said...


Singapore bought Australian
land?

It only leases the Land.

No sovereign nation sells
its' land to alien.

Only Sinkies are pawned and
their national assets sold.


patriot


patriot said...


Singapore bought Australian
land?

It only leases the Land.

No sovereign nation sells
its' land to alien.

Only Sinkies are pawned and
their national assets sold.


patriot


Anonymous said...

Only Sinkies are pawned and
their national assets sold.
patriot 10:30 am

But Sinkieland and PAP govt will still be around what, as long as there are new Sinkies and PAP can win elections, tio bo?

And given Sinkies below replacement fertility rate, Sinkies will also be extinct in the long run, even without new Sinkies or without Sinkies being pawned and their national assets sold.

So Sinkies being pawned and their national assets sold is still the lesser evil in the long run, that's why PAP make this choice. Of course PAP cannot tell you in this way lah.

Anonymous said...

This message if placing forces outside little dot as defense strategy was timely. I would agree that is not practical to win a war but a strategy to lose a war in defense is true.
Why? a weak inner force will put the local residents as shield to external forces occupying that place. Is this real? The external force can take over that place with 5th columns already built inside the population. One little place is likely to fall into this scenario. It will grown its population to 7 millions in 10years time and to 10 millions in future. That is the known target. The next phase already put voters less than foreigners populations. How violent can foreigners group together? There was on solid show at a town with a particular groups of foreigners frequent. The scene was law enforcement officer and ambulance crews were saved by the rioters before they turned into bbq. So to take over a little place, there a lots of such possibilities when a particular group of foreigners joint together, while speaking their very own languages the local cannot even spy on. What happen when at war the citizens being held hostage to take the bombing from its own force like F15 or 35? There are plenty of hiding places as buildings are every where.

I must warn you now that, someone said there is such slow influence on people s unity, trying to teach people not to listen to someone. I do not know how to tell people white papers said population must be 7 millions is a unity message. U can do it for yourself as reader, i speak my mind. You do not need to follow what i say. In other words, its "beyond reasoning stage" now. Even the expert tried to warn people to stay in unity. It needs cohesiveness to glue things together. The very cohesiveness is diluting by the very policy of accepting different culture foreigners into this place.
Stand at public places, more than half time i cannot figure out what languages are those men and women talking. They live in nearby residence and walk out regularly. Certainly not ang mor. Worst for me is those deeper color men and women i could not distinguish. One taught me to look at how they dress. Ok lah. That is pap s new men or women. I fear for my security and future, i will not vote for pap. I do not buy in training camp at 5 hours flight away can help to secure me. Its like fetching water from pacific ocean to extinguish a fire at jurong warehouse. You must be too retarded to think it works out well. It is a messy policy to create another mess, similar to a recent riots.

Anonymous said...

Have foreigners come to Singapore to take away jobs of Sinkies is bad, of course.

But not to have foreigners is worse.

Vote PAP like it is now is bad, of course.

But to vote opposition is worse.

This is the dilemma of Sinkies. That's why smart Sinkies who can run road to escape Sinkieland to have better life will do so and have already done so.

That's why you see PAP getting more foreigners (too bad lah if they are not good ones) to replace those smart Sinkies who have run road.

patriot said...


By the Time Sin population hits 7 millionth, even if Sinkies have the Whole of Australia for military training, it aint going to
save the Tiny Dot from being occupied by aliens.

WHY THE HELL THE NEED TO DEFEND IT?

DEFEND IT FROM WHO?

STUPID SINKIES.


patriot




Anonymous said...

/// Singapore's military strategy is not to fight in the first place. So that our generals can become CEOs of GLCs as well, and our NS Sinkies no need to die also. Good or not, u say lah? ///
December 31, 2016 10:24 am

SINGAPOREAN'S (30%) VOTING strategy is not to WORK FOR PEANUTS in the first place. So that our PEASANT CHILDREN can become CEOs of GLCs as well, and our PAPER GENERALS CAN ALL EAT SHIT AND DIE. Good or not, u say lah?

Anonymous said...

DEFEND IT FROM WHO?
patriot @ December 31, 2016 11:02 am

Defend Singapore and Singapore's reserves from enriching Singaporeans lah.

What part of replacing Singaporeans with Foreigners you don't understand?
What part of making Singaporeans pay and pay you don't understand?
What part of making elderly Singaporeans work until they drop dead on the job you don't understand?

Anonymous said...


I think China is watching this deal very very closely.

When will the "terrace houses" be returned to singapore depends on this deal.

With this deal, we may quit taiwan for good, so as to please our friend.

This could be a win-win case. Money well spent!

Do you think so?

Happy and healthy 2017 to all!

Anonymous said...

/// This could be a win-win case. Money well spent! ///
December 31, 2016 11:17 am

China offer us Hainan island to train for free.
FOR FREE.
You don't want.

‘Singapore is paying S$2.34 billion to Australia to rent over 200,000 hectares"
- Pay $2.34 billion dollars you want.

No wonder PAP continues to enjoy the support of 70% of Singaporeans.

Anonymous said...

@ December 31, 2016 11:21 am

God must love stupid slaves.
He created 3.5 million of them in Singapore.
Or more accurately 3.5 million multiplied by 0.7 (or 70%).

Anonymous said...

Quote "SAF's presence in Australia will also grow from 6,600 to 14,000, and its personnel will spend 18 weeks per year in the country, up from six weeks at present."
Does that means paid billions just to stay for 18 weeks a year for 25 years. I am confused.

Anonymous said...


Anonymous 11.21am may be correct to say that "China offer us
Hainan island to train for free. FOR FREE. You don't want".

Please note that.....Nothing is "free"! Nothing is "free"!

We have to be very very sensitive to many OTHERS!

Can we accept the offer?

Whether you like it or not, we MUST be very very sensitive to many OTHERS!

Small country in the middle is like that.....balancing acts!

国国有本难念的经! 国国有本难念的经!

Cheers.

Anonymous said...

In real war, people not wearing helmet, not wearing camouflage uniform, but holding US weapons and hide behind walls or stones, they beat troops having all those. 5 years ago, Iraq troops ran off in mass when IS invaded one place.

I must warn those believe in elites "training" in foreign lands help in urban warfare in real situation at one little place. They might lose the war because of 5th columns. That s what happened in middle east war. People can read and watch war going on in Mosul and weeks back in Aleppo.

One more remark. A warning is that i do not want to influence you. You read at influencing yourself. The Norway prize winner for economic said that failure of globalization resulted Trump won. His research found white middle age men committing suicides from 1999 to 2013 reach 490000, the highest among races. He hinted monies were channeled into elites and those elites supporters resulted more poor people and rich people and less middle class.
I observed it is true. Many tried to infiltrated into elites organizations are rewarded. Some got away by stealing or cheating. Go read those reports on court cases.
When come to elites initiated projects or policy, tons of people come along. Some like foreigner tourguide took picture with elite to gain special treatment. Of course, on going cases will tell this Norway prize winner is not lying, he is also a globalization supporter. Of course S$5billions to be thrown on Aus land, many will be benefited except the average citizens here.

Anonymous said...

/// Can we accept the offer?
Whether you like it or not, we MUST be very very sensitive to many OTHERS!
Small country in the middle is like that.....balancing acts! ///
December 31, 2016 11:49 am

Of course we must be "sensitive" to many OTHERS.
It's a very difficult job you know.
We are a small country, caught in the middle, balancing many things ... you know.

Only natural aristocrats can do this type of job, you know.
That's why we must pay million dollar salaries to find this type of talent, you know.

If the job is so simple, how to justify being paid millions in salaries?
Guys like President Duterte anyhow spoil the million dollar salary job market ... you know.

Anonymous said...

The billions of dollars we spend buying American fighter planes ... you know.
All these USA planes ... you know.
Do they come with a remote controlled "OFF" switch controlled by USA?
Just in case Singapore accidentally pivot towards the "wrong" country ... you know?

Anonymous said...

@ China offer us Hainan island to train for free.
FOR FREE.
You don't want.

If they can hijack 9 armor trucks . Then they can hijack the whole camp and everything and everyone. Beside they loved to copy.

Anonymous said...

Dear Donald Trump
Can you please give my government S$2.34 billion in foreign aid.
I need the money to pay Australia for the use of their land to test my long range missiles.
If your foreign aid is not given freely to my government.
We may have to test our long range missiles in China instead.

I am a caring leader of Singapore.
I will not burden my loyal and dumb citizens with more taxes to raise the needed S$2.34 billion to pay Australia.

Yours Sincerely
What a real Singaporean Leader would say and do.

Anonymous said...

/// If they can hijack 9 armor trucks . Then they can hijack the whole camp and everything and everyone. Beside they loved to copy. ///
December 31, 2016 1:13 pm

What type of technology you think Singapore has that is so fucking valuable that China wants to copy?
The only technology that we have is how to make our elderly citizens work until they drop dead on the job.
That and "how to collect more money" technology.

Anonymous said...

"Old Singapore is full of guys like him.
Soft, entitled, mistaking wealth for success, privilege for power.
Their greed splintered Singapore into a thousand pieces.
Their time is over.
Time for a leaner generation."

Anonymous said...


Anonymous 1.23pm.........u are very very Good!

I enjoyed reading yr comments.

Anonymous said...

Found this from a pro govt site fathershit
"With this point, Ng was probably trying to prepare Singaporeans for the possibility that the Terrexes might not be returned anytime soon, or returned at all. "

Tarlex not returned at all? Is someone gonna resign or harakiri as cow asked oppo to do in parliament talks? The sums of losses are in S$ not HK dollars, at least S$120millions involved.

Sin city has good lawyers and law ministry has many. It time to take legal action against HK customs for not giving "formal reason" detaining an important country in the world s property of 9 lorries. Sin city want return of property and loss of use of the lorries on hours basis. HK has courts to listen and will direct the customs to release the lorries with apologies thousands times if Sin city has good legal reasons.

Legal Legal Legal is what Sin city has to do now. Not returned at all? Whose assets are they? No private assets, but public assets. Hellow, those are public money. Agree?

Anonymous said...

I say, let's cut our defence budget. Even Trump is taking steps to cut US military spending. Yes, we need good defence but not at the expense of buying expensive fighter aircraft like F35. These billions would disappear in no time.

Anonymous said...

Pap typical mentality -
if they can't get what they want , they would demonize the system and ask for reform.

CNa: The Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) has been urged to relook its Charter and redefine its consensus-building mechanism.

it is time the regional bloc re-consider its consensus-building approach.

Can we do some innovative mechanisms to say - in some cases it doesn’t have to be 10 out of 10. Eight out of 10 is enough or nine out of 10 is enough.”




Anonymous said...

F35 was reported to have cracks at very high speed. US has claimed wanting to change to F35 but no real actions. Japan has 9 delivered, not seen being used to intercept china j15 at Miyako straits.
Sin city airforce or army are useless. They never get into warfare. Just play exercise like games. No soldiers and generals are for war doing such things in life time.
Cut the budget is good ideas. If want to be anti china. Build a similar camp at Taiwan Chianchun and fly the sin city flag there. Sure china PLA will thumb up.

Anonymous said...

Asean is split into 2 parts. Meikong rivers group are inside Asean. Had their own meeting with China FM. Laos rail link work started this week. The only rail link DIRrectly to China. Can see the relationship? Cambodia, Laos, are China s hardcore. Whereas Sin city is anti china. There was once, asean discussed on supporting Hague judgment, Sin city FM flew back leaving China FM to face the press. The FM said Asean had consensus on Scs policy ie supporting China. Obviously not, as the asean coordinator with china flew back without facing the pressmen.

Its a matter of on papers what was said. In real actions, asean is divided into Meikong group pro china, Malaysia Thailand half pro china, Philippines Indonesia Myannma 35% pro china, Vietnam 10% and Sin city -35% pro china.
Anytime, china can activate the first 2 groups, while working with the balance 3 to isolate Sin city, while asking Viecon to be neutral.

In reality now, Sin city should form a Japsinkor group to counter asean. Japsinko will help Sin to stand out as world leader in Scs against China, not asean.

Anonymous said...

Good news in next few weeks. Taiwan president Tsia will pass US various city and might have talks with Trump. Trump will love it to stir up Taiwan. Sin city might want to join the fun. On the other hands, PLA high levels are unhappy for not showing Taiwan for initiating independent action to call Trump up. They may go near Taiwan shore to have war games, that will irritate Taiwan, hopefully they pull the trigger against PLA to fulfill the latter s wishes. Another move is to attack Taiwan s economy. Sin city can do both to help Taiwan to poke China. 2017 new year month will have fire crackers and fire work. Good year ahead for Sin city.

b said...

Uas presidents are weapons industry peddlers. BOmama mission was to stir shit in mid east. DDuck mission is to stir shit in far east. Both with the aim to sell more weapons in the region. Next few months will be interested as DDuck will do anything to seduce Putin. Putin should be smart enough to resist temptations because after far east will be russia turn to be plundered.

Anonymous said...

What type of technology you think Singapore has that is so fucking valuable that China wants to copy?

Anything they deem can make monies regardless from hi end to lo end. Making fake eggs , tainted milk, recycling used oil .... etc.

For safety and health of our NS men and sons, better to expose less to China's food and air quality.

Anonymous said...

/// For safety and health of our NS men and sons, better to expose less to China's food and air quality. ///
December 31, 2016 4:58 pm

Even better:
"For safety and health of our NS men and sons, better to discontinue National Service immediately. Expose less to Singapore army's food and air quality."

Anonymous said...

@ better to discontinue National Service immediately.

Ah ha, that's best idea worth considering so far .

Anonymous said...

Good point on discontinuing National Service immediately. It has to be done with just sending all NS men home for them to help find better income for their already poor families where there parents are retrenched jobless.

There should be new immigrations of 3 millions foreigners to come in to buy the empties residential properties and shop units. More foreigners will create more jobs for local citizens. Train up the foreigners to defend singapore is better than forcing citizens on NS. A lot of foreigners want to help in defending singapore, they must be given chances with priorities than citizens.

Virgo49 said...

Anon 1.13

Cannot trust the Chinamen. Hainan not Australia.

We are the yellow bananas. No more crude Chinamen.

We had arrived.

Happy 2017.!!!!!

Anonymous said...

A not so happy 2017, Singapore millionaire only "confident" of a good future at 1%.

Wish everyone a 1% increase in income or salary. I am not so confident Pap can bring 1% salary increase in 2017.

Anonymous said...

@ Cannot trust the Chinamen.

The day china can make a tv drama or movie about Bo Xi Lai Wsng Li Jun or maybe other corrupt officials. Trust level will be higher since they can face their chao kar.

If Zhou Yong Kang even better. Interesting to know how he got the nickname 百鸡王 and what tonic he take ?

Anonymous said...

I don wan 2 tak a bout it.

Cos its not a gd idea.really.

Only kids utter such idea.

Anonymous said...

Did Wang Li Jun trust Bo Xi Lai until he had to run to US embassy ?

And did Xi trust Bo and Zhou ?

Did we not trust China in Su Zhou ?

Did the rich lady not trust Yang Yin ?

Did our school not trust Sun Xu ?

Did our leader not trust China to understand SCS issue is SCS issue , Taiwan training is Taiwan training and the 9 armor vehicle is 9 armor vehicle.

@ Only kids utter such idea.

And yet a respectable high ranking CCP official Mr Zhou can have such ideas plus action ?



Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

'Anon 1.13

Cannot trust the Chinamen. Hainan not Australia.

We are the yellow bananas. No more crude Chinamen.'

Silly Singaporean China man said cannot trust China man. Did he look into the mirror to look at the silly China man and ask if he can trust him?

Anonymous said...

It'll a big joke when sg testing

Its missile, the target hit when

Further inspect was the lost

Terrex.