The big demonstrations in Hong Kong were amazing. For whatever reasons,
the Hongkongers think they were strong enough to put pressure on Beijing
by their show of force, that they were a different people, different
from Chinese in China and deserved to be treated differently, have their
own laws and their own country, an independent Hong Kong. The
Hongkongers think Beijing would have to respect their rights and
feelings and cut off Hong Kong from the mother land to be an independent
country and not to bother that Hong Kong could be a cancer growing
under the instigation and control of hostile forces to destabilize
China.
The demonstrators, mostly young people, must be basking in their days of
power, rioting, anarchy, that they were in control of their destiny, in
control of Hong Kong, that the Hong Kong govt is hapless and could not
do anything to them. China also could not do anything to them as the
foreigners would be there to tear down China for taking actions against
their lawlessness in breaking and tearing down Parliament House.
It was a great feeling, to be above the law, to break the law with
impunity. It was power in the hands of the young mobsters. They even
took liberty at the police, attacked them for wanting to maintain law
and order. The young mobsters are the law, untouchable. They could
decide what they want to do with Hong Kong, beat up anyone, tear down
any building they want. They think they are the new masters of Hong
Kong.
Then came 22 Jul, at the Yuen Long Train Station, another group of young
mobsters appeared to challenge the young mobsters that had ran riot all
over Hong Kong for the last few weeks. The new mobsters in white Ts
took on the original mobsters in black Ts and beat them up. Many of the
boys and girls were screaming and crying in fear and in pain, something
alien to them. In the past weeks they were cheering and jeering, taunting and cursing at the govt and police and throwing stones at them
in jubilant cries of power and triumph. They were the brave ones, the
ones that were beating other people, throwing bottles and all kinds of
things at their victims, including the police.
On 22 Jul, the table turned. They became the crying victims, squeezing
into little corners in the train cabin to avoid being beaten. Some went
on their knees crying and begging for the beating to stop. Some went
accusing the police for not coming to their aid. The police were their
victims, beaten by them, and they were demanding that the police must
come and protect them from the white mobsters. Do they need the police,
do they respect the police, do they know that they were the ones
attacking the police just a few days earlier?
Lawlessness greeted with lawlessness. The hunters became the hunted. The
thugs got beaten by the thugs. The brave front of invincibility and
lawless became meek victims crying for help.
What happened? Where have the arrogance of lawlessness and brashness
gone? Where have all the bravadoes and defiance gone? They went berserk
over a few days of lawlessness until their roof came crashing down. It
was unreal.
This is only the beginning. The lesson of growing up is just beginning.
The time for naivety is over. Stop behaving like spoilt brats in the
world of adults. Get real. Kids are kids and should not be playing with
fire. The future of a nation of 1.35b people cannot be thrashed by a few
young punks who think they own Hong Kong and want to decide the fate of
Hong Kong and China. Hong Kong is China and would not be parted.
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If the triads had chop off a few limbs, it wud be killing a chicken to scare the monkeys.
The white youths just taught the black T mobs a lesson. Caned them but did not do more harm to them.
Many expressed no sympathy for the silly black T mobs. They deserved the beating.
This is just a thought. Does anyone suspect that the CIA or the MI6 have a hand in this riots?
Don't know what to say about hk.
Don't know call them HERO or ZERO?
BTW just watch.........
Sad...........
@ RB
Despite your sarcastic tone, you fail to see that short bouts of “boh cheng hu” can be actually “liberating”.
Whilst the gangland culture has been toned down in most Chinese societies, it is alive and well in Hong Kong.
You have to appreciate one thing about the Cantonese: they are AGGRESSIVE and can be provoked easily into being HOSTILE. Lingnin culture is famed for producing various manner of pugilists and kungfu fighters. They are also well-known for their gangs and gangland culture.
In Singapore most of this stuff has been “cleaned up”...IMO to the detriment of the society and the culture at large. We used to have gangs, gang fights...with names like: Zero-Eight, Black and White, Two-Four etc contributing to our coloured history. Unfortunately most of this stuff is LOST on the young, and even forgotten to those who were there.
Many fathers of our current politicians used to run with the gangs of Singapore. Gang fights were seriously violent, brutal and deadly affairs. Teens as young as 12 would sometimes enter the “battles”. Bearing scrapers (many gangsters were mechanics), acid bulbs, chains, parangs, choppers, knives, steel bar and occasionally firearms were used in gang clashes in the Jalan Besar, Katong-Geylang-Joo Chiat, Red Hill-Commonwealth-Queenstown, Jurong, the Chu Kangs...it was exciting times!
Across the Causeway, there was even a more violent scene. Malaysian gangsters are extra CRAZY ---- they will engage the police directly, and fight to the death.
Now, both cuntries pride themsleves in being “civilized” with a strong Rule of Law governing the societies. You think this is good? Yes, but it has severe downsides---the main one being the govt can fuck around with you and you are powerless.
How long do you think a Najib Razak would last in Hong Kong, once the ire of The People reached a tipping point? How do you think the PAP’s enduring curtailment of free speech and expression would fair under the “individualism” of your average Hongkie?
The Gangs Of Hong Kong are a spontaneous, non-centralised EMERGENT PROPERTY of the SPIRIT of Hong Kong’s people. They represent DEFIANCE to authority, when that so-called authority has crossed “the line” in the minds of the people.
How many of the so-called issues would we have now if Singapore still had its gangs? How many foreigners would “get away scott free” with bullying locals? Maybe businesses which hire too many foreign workers would “mysteriously” burn to the ground?
Do I advocate lawlessness? Under certain circumstances absolutely. The People are allowed to make bad decisions as they are allowed to make good ones. As a collective, People Power might be “unruly mob power”, but it is still People Power.
The principle of Government for the people and by the people will be upheld...even though the govt might presently have the laws and guns on their side.
...ad if the people fuck it up, and fuck up their own society and cuntry…SO BE IT.
Violence is so underrated and too often written off as “taboo” for a solution. The reality is VIOLENCE IS EXTREMELY EFFECTIVE, especially when people don’t respond to, or ridicule reason and polite “normative” behaviour.
Sometimes LAWLESSNESS IS NECESSARY. ANARCHY IS OCCASIONALLY THE BEST CHOICE. And sometimes The People need to drag the government officials out, hang them in public, burn them at the stake...or the way the “stylish and chique” French do it: chop off their heads with a specially designed machine. 🤣😆
The young punks have forgotten the Boxers Uprising. The Triads even took on the corrupt Ching Dynadty rulers for the sake of Motherland China by sacrificing their own lives by the thosands and thousands. What is a few hundred chicken-backside students instigated by CIA and MI5 agents in Hongkong?
Many youngsters and academics don't understand that in any country, there are always two sets of governments/rulers - the open and official government and the underground hidden government. Same like the police - open police and undercover police.
The elected government runs the country openly. The underground Triad Societies run the underworld.
Those lawless and traitorous HK students, calling themselves champions for democracy, have been:
1. Raiding and destroying the sacrosanct HK Parliament,
2. Attacking and beseighing the HK Police HQ,
3. Attacking and beseighing China's Liaison Office in HK,
4. Attacking the uniformed Police who were on official duties, trying to maintain peace, law and order,
5. Disrupting and causing losses to tradees and businesses,
6. Disrupting and frightening tourists and ordinary peace-loving law-abiding peoples' lives.
Those actions have angered the Triad Societies greatly. The first counter-attack by the Triad members should have brought about lessons to be learnt by the lawless students. Otherwise, more counter-attacks will be forth-coming.
Matilar, u crazy or what supporting lawlessness. u need to be sodomized lar then u know what lawlessness actually mean.
I thought of running in the Hong Kong Masters in a Nov. Probably not going with the rioting.
The heart of martial arts and triad activities were in Foshan, Tientsin and Shanghai. Hong Kong came in later, after WW2.
@All,
Various actors are resorting to extra-legal methods --- those elements of blacks & whites are basically just paid mercenaries. But as always, they tend to go after the easy targets --- small shops & businesses by the blacks, and non-violent protestors & passengers by the whites.
The paid mercenaries won't like to engage each other (at least not voluntarily). They are not paid well enough for loss of life or limb.
The bottom line is that many HK'ers (especially those below 40) have REAL GRIEVANCES which are PRIMARILY on extremely high cost of living, unaffordability of flats, unaffordability of getting married & raising a family, longest working hours (even worse than SG) ... and that anger is being directed at the authorities for not being able to improve their lives. The extradition bill is seen as Beijing's version of "No bread?? Eat cake lorr!!!" or "What you want?? Hawker centre, food court, or restaurant?!?"
It's not the extradition bill PER SE. But the feeling that Beijing & the authorities can't be bothered to solve their problems & in fact making things harder.
You be surprised, but MANY senior Cheena officials in Beijing KNOW the actual reasons. The problem is that there are no easy solutions. And obviously they cannot openly say they are not competent enough & HK'ers just need to suffer some more.
The proposed Greater Bay Area economic zone initiative will help HK'ers in their grievances, BUT the benefits will likely go to their next generations. Those especially in their 30s & 40s will likely not benefit, if they already can't make it in current HK.
The best that Beijing can do is to be open & honest, maybe re-direct more $$$$$$$$$$$ towards HK welfare & subsidies, and try to accelerate the GBA programme. And many of the Cheena senior officials are thinking the same way.
WSG
As long as HKers want to remain as One Cuntree Two Cheeby-Holes System, it would be stupid for China to pour in money to help make the HK System works well. China should lay off and let the HKers run the show to the ground. They asked for it.
Only when the HKers start thinking or rejoining the Motherland fully, like all other parts of China, should the Central Government give a hand.
Why blame Beijing? One country two systems, Hongkongers ruled Hong Kong. Beijing only responsible for defence and foreign affairs.
Beijing cannot be involved unless it is national emergency.
Breaking News : Chinese military can be deployed at Hong Kong’s request to contain protests, Beijing says
@RB, @All,
No worries --- Xi will use both methods on HK ... security clampdown as well as increased welfare support. Just like after 1989 Tiananmen.
There's 2 big camps in Beijing & Xi is navigating both sides.
All in all, good show for the whole world to see! Hahaha!!!
BTW both China & HK authorities are keen to suppress the demonstrations, but not in a bloody way, so as to prevent more Billions from being sent to Singapore. We have already probably received upwards of $100M from HK tycoons & billionaires becoz of the unrest. Singapore is a big benefactor & if we have the guts, we should be doing black ops to fund more HK protestors to kill & burn.
WSG
@ More complexity and intrigue
This is becoming one helluva shit-show.
Police (govt) tries to suppress protestors. Then gangsters attack protestors and police "buat bodoh". Meanwhile, in the garrison, PRC troops fix bayonets and await orders to "restore law and order".
Sounds like a (another?) Chinese Civil War is about to start. What is required now is for the Kuomintang to jump in and join the "activities" and it'll be a real party for the world to see, and for the history books to feature. 😂🤣
Oi. Taipeh...are you up to it?
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