More than 350 Indonesian healthcare workers who were vaccinated with China's Sinovac vaccine caught COVID-19, Reuters reported.
While the majority of those who tested positive for the coronavirus were asymptomatic, dozens needed hospital care.
Badai Ismoyo, head of the health office in the district of Kudus in Central Java, told the outlet that more than 90% of the facility's beds are occupied. 5,000 healthcare workers are currently dealing with the outbreak, about 7% of whom have become infected.
It's likely that the outbreak is fueled by the more transmissible Delta variant, which originated in India. The number of workers testing positive has prompted officials to question how effective the Sinovac vaccine is against variants....
"The data shows they have the Delta variant (in Kudus) so it is no surprise that the breakthrough infection is higher than before, because, as we know, the majority of healthcare workers in Indonesia got Sinovac, and we still don't know yet how effective it is in the real world against the Delta variant," Dicky Budiman, an epidemiologist at Australia's Griffith University told Reuters.
Last month, Indonesian health officials said the Sinovac vaccine was estimated to be 98% effective at preventing death and 96% effective at preventing hospitalization.
The statistic came after 128,000 healthcare workers who were vaccinated were monitored between January and March and it was found that 94% of them hadn't caught symptomatic COVID-19....
Indonesia recorded over 1.9 million infections with 53,000 deaths since the start of the pandemic. Doctors and nurses accounted for close to 950 deaths. They were the first to receive the Sinovac vaccine in January. Yahoo News
Someone has been pushing this report to try to discredit Chinese vaccines here and all over the media. When reading such reports, one must be very careful about what is being reported, who is reporting it and what is the agenda.
At face value, without understanding the big picture and taking the report andnumbers in isolation, it gives the impression that Chinese vaccines are ineffective against Delta variant. Contrary, by intentionally refusing to report about the infection and death due to mRNA vaccines, it gives the impression that they are safe, no infection, no death. To get a better picture, one needs to compare apple with apple and orange with orange and not to take isolated numbers and incidents to paint a big picture. To take a few numbers out of context is not representative and often mischievous.
Indonesia has about 3m infections. 350 health workers against 2m infection or against a population of more than 300m is very very different from 350 workers against a 60,000 infection or a population of 10m. Since the airport incident and the cases in the hospitals here, how many healthcare workers have been infected, how many in total has been infected, how many have been vaccinated with mRNA vaccines have been infected? The numbers would tell a very different picture.
To get a fair answer, one needs a comparative study with similar numbers in other countries using mRNA vaccines to be able to say which is better relatively. Why were there practically no reports of infection rate and death of people being vaccinated in other countries? Really no infection and no death?
Did we not hear often that getting vaccinated doesn't mean cannot be infected? We have numbers being reported daily, what are Singapore's numbers on healthcare workers and of the public that have been vaccinated with mRNA vaccines and still got infected? Is our number bigger than the 350 cases of healthcare workers in Indonesia?
The other important point to note is that getting infected is expected, and the probability is definitely higher among healthcare workers and in Indonesia when the daily and overall infection is very much higher than this piece of rock. And the other consideration is how many or what percentage was serious, needed hospitalisation or even death. Compare the numbers in countries that were using mRNA vaccines with an awareness that some so called 'transparent and democratic' countries are anything but transparent and hiding and lying and doctoring their data to present a false picture to show the world.
Do not take things at face value, take data in isolation, and beware of conspiracy and people with mischievous agenda and lying to get their way to misinform, to lie, to push a different agenda and narrative.
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WASHINGTON: The Delta variant of the novel coronavirus that was first found in India is the greatest threat to the United States' effort to eradicate COVID-19 in its borders, said US infectious disease expert Dr Anthony Fauci during a Tuesday (Jun 22) press call.
"The transmissibility is unquestionably greater" in the Delta variant than the original variant of COVID-19, Fauci said, adding that "it is associated with an increased disease severity".
Why should this be if mRNA vaccines are so effective? If the vaccines are effective, there is no fear. Or is it otherwise?
No reports on mRNA fatalities and severe effects, long-lasting effects and long-term effects, do not mean there are no such cases. On the other hand, only good news on the mRNA vaccines are relentlessly reported everyday. What does it mean?
It only means that the mRNA vaccines are too good to be true!
If something is too good to be true, we had better be very careful. Because it is too good to be true, it simply cannot be true. Simple as that.
Double-dosed TTSH nurse still kena the virus in Singapore is best proof that MRNA vaccine is not effective . .
Disinformation and selective reporting are being exercised every day by the main media and certain propaganda websites with ulterior motives.
At the same time, reliable government agencies' websites provide only the barest minimum of facts, data, statistics and information. These are insufficient for the public to form a wise decision. It becomes like the five blind men trying to figure out how an elephant looks like just by touching only one part of the elephant.
As such, in this Pandemic, many governments in the world are guilty of deliberately providing the public with misinformation and disinformation. This is an unforgivable and despicable sin.
NYT, WSJ etc have been sowing doubts on the Chinese vaccines in countries that use them like Indonesia and Chile which are facing resurgence of the virus. It's disingenuous of them for them not giving breakdown of the details since these countries are also using the western vaccines. UK is also facing the same problem with increasing cases with the D variant without Chinese vaccines yet none of the western media are doing the same unsubstantiated report about the them as they have done to the Chinese ones. Hypocrisy is their name and game.
Worst of all, is certain ruling political parties and government agencies are sending out hordes of internet activists to purposely sell a repeated deceptive narrative in order to dilute and destroy public collective wisdoms and critical analyses. This is downright abhorrent and horrendous.
It does not need anyone with a little brain to see that all the demonisation of the Sinovac is to serve a purpose. It is not the efficacy, but the motive of picking on small problems which is also happening with Pfizer vaccines, but they do not want to highlight those problems, concentrating only on Sinovac. In fact the Pfizer vaccines are causing more deaths per million dozes than Astrazeneca vaccines in some countries. This has never been revealed on MSM, only on social media.
As it is, how many Singaporeans who have been vaccinated with the Pfizer vaccines have also succumbed to the COVID19? Would they care to publish those statistics?
Rb i think I post the Indonesia article but u deleted it?
My apologies. Got distracted by the IB posting so many rubbish here.
The social media has more credibility than main media on this pandemic. The biggest liars were those in the White House and their crony media and crony cuntries.
Day and night they are pushing out white lies with no sense of shame and conscience.
The credibility of the MSM has been destroyed with so much lying and fabricated narratives. Crying wolf once too often has made people wise up and they no longer trust the MSM.
The irony is that when experts and analysts also start drinking from the same trough and espouse the same mantra as the MSM or are paid to do so, people will also have little confidence in their words, not knowing whether they are spouting the truth or formulating deceit.
Be wise in what you see or hear, and only believe at your own risk.
Yes, the social media is more reliable and trustworthy than the main media at all times.
The main media are controlled either by rich media tycoons with selfish agendas or by governments with political agendas.
Their editors, journalists and reporters have no choice but to tow the line of their respective paymasters and owners. Otherwise, they will lose their jobs in double quick time.
https://www.thestandard.com.hk/breaking-news/section/6/175264/Chile-investigates-Sinovac-vaccine-protection
Researchers at the university’s Centre of Excellence in Clinical Virology are looking into whether Covid-19 shots from different vaccine makers can better boost immunity and maximise safeguards against infection from the rapidly spreading Delta (Indian) variant.
His research team is working with partners to study administering the vaccine using a combination of Sinovac and AstraZeneca.
The study might show that combining vaccines could lift immunity and guard against infections more effectively than relying on a single brand.
According to Dr Yong, the study involves using Sinovac vaccine as the first dose, followed by the AstraZeneca vaccine as a second dose administered four weeks later.
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