12/24/2021

Covid19 - The corruption of ethics and trust

From the parents' point of view, it would be tragic for a child to lose his life just because of vaccination when without vaccination the child could still be alive.

The ethics of vaccine manufacturing today has reached a state that a few death is considered ok, acceptable, with the ridiculous phrase, 'the benefits outweigh the risks'.

When in the recent past has such an excuse be considered as good enough to approve the use of an experimental vaccine that has not gone through the due process of testing? In the initial stage of the pandemic when there were insufficient information and the fear of fatality was high, it was forgivable that govts could be forced to make tough decisions in a what if situation.

Today, they should have sufficient information on the probability of death due this virus, maybe still too early on Omicron, but generally there must be good enough data to make a reasonable decision as to the need to vaccinate children. Is the virus so deadly that children must be vaccinated now or never? What are the probabilities of children dying from the virus versus dying from the vaccines?

Is the risks of death of children dying from the virus high enough to justify vaccinating them? Are the benefits worth the risks?

The govt may have its own parameters to want the children to be vaccinated. Parents too must also have to weigh in on this to make an informed decision. Unfortunately many parents would not be able to do so due to ignorance, fear, emotion, and too many disinformation and contrarian views in the media.

When all the authorities, national or international, are no longer trustworthy, when even the number one scientist in the USA, Fauci, is being doubted, his credibility questioned, how are parents going to make an informed decision that would affect the lives of their children?

How could this happened in the 21st Century, so far away from the Age of Ignorance? Is the human race progressing or regressing?

This state of affair is so irresponsible and tragic. There is no individual or organisation that can be trusted to stand out to speak with a  voice of confidence and authority for the people of the world when so many lives are at stake.

Is this pandemic an issue of medical science, politics or economics?

20 comments:

A-Non-Yes-Mouse said...

USA Is Openly And Directly Escalating Confrontations Against China And The Chinese People

In order to escalate open and direct confrontations against China and the Chinese People, the declining evil hegemonic US Empire's President Joe Biden has just signed a new "law" to ban products made in China’s Xinjiang Province because of alleged oppression of its Muslims in the Uighur community.

As directed by its Deep State string-pullers, members of both political parties of the US Congress have voted for the "law" in both the House of Representatives and the Senate earlier this month.

This is a clear and blatant direct and open interference in the internal affairs of another country, namely China. This is war!

China cannot take this open and direct confrontation quietly sitting down.

China must retaliate with the full force of her 1.5 billion population across the board on all fronts.

For a start, China must immediately enact a new law to ban all products being produced in those US States that discriminated against and oppressed the Muslims and the Minorities in the US.

It is time for all the Chinese in the World to rise up to face this open and direct confrontation initiated by the evil hegemonic US Empire against China and the Chinese People!


A-non-y-mouse.

A-Non-Yes-Mouse said...

Interesting discussion in the TRE Editorial:


There is an interesting discussion going on in the thread “Do you have the capital to take the gamble?“, between our techie and a regular reader.

Our techie, Andrew have opined that since the experts at MTF are so dead sure that there are “no evidence” to suggest that the vaccines can cause serious injuries and even death to the children aged 5-12 years and the “benefits outweigh the risks” in having these children vaccinated.

The expert committee on Covid-19 vaccination has said the benefits of the vaccine outweigh the risks posed to young children. - Straits Times

Then it is only right for the various ministers to lead by example and volunteer their children and grandchildren aged 5 to 12 years to take the vaccination in front of live TV to allay any concerns which parents might have and to prove that they have absolute trust in the vaccines offered by the government.

Agreeing, a regular reader who goes by the moniker “Clowns Of Parleeament” proposes the following candidates, for starters:

CottonSheep’s youngest should be 9 now? Sim Ann’s youngest should be 10 ba. Sun Xueling has 2 daughters who are between 5-8 and not forgetting Tin Peiling’s oldest who should be 6 by now? I believe there’re a few more.

Why did we not hear them volunteering their children for the vaccination since their party keeps telling us it’s for the good of the children, the reader asked.

I agree fully that if these PAPies were to show us their children taking with the mRNA vaccine, many parents would be convinced that the jabs are safe. But no leh. All of them diam diam. Hiding their children now ah?

The reader then directed the following question to the Health Minister:

Hello, health minister! Since you say the vaccine is meant to protect these children, so are you gonna get your colleagues to send their kids for the vaccination first?

The team would also like to add all the eligible children and grandchildren of those in the “expert committee on Covid-19″ to the list, especially Kenneth who has been especially zealous in hoodwinking the masses.

Logically, if these ministers and the members of the expert committee on Covid-19 cannot even back up their own claims that the Covid-19 vaccines are safe and can be administered to one of their own, then why should anyone of us even trust anything they say?

If and until they start vaccinating those on the proposed lists, maybe we should all hold back on the decision to vaccinate our beloved child.

What do you think?



P/S: The take up rate for vaccinating the 5-12 children in Israel (the most vaccinated country in the world) is only about 10%.

Anonymous said...

// ...
Is this pandemic an issue of medical science, politics or economics? //

Probably none or part of the above. Most probably it's the Supreme Beings of the Upper Realm or God's tests on humanity. Some said Karma or a collective karma of the sins of human beings experiencing the wrath of other worldly realm.

Anonymous said...

teachem2think • 11 minutes ago
"However, UKHSA data noted that the booster efficacy begins to wane more quickly against Omicron, and is already 15-25% lower after just 10 weeks." And that, after all the blah blah blah, is the last sentence and answers the question.


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bonk • 15 minutes ago
Many folk have had enough of these useless and dangerous jabs now.


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OnlineBills02 • an hour ago
I see no data to support any of these claims. These types of articles remind me Big Pharma advertisements with RT making some cash in the process for posting totally unsubstantiated claim.

Give us a link, RT. Give us some facts, some data.

Even *YOU* post "...“Hospital admissions are increasing, and we cannot risk the NHS [National Health Service] being overwhelmed,” Javid said. " They always talk about CASES, not DEATHS! It's variant, which means a new viral mutation. That's what viruses do. Omicron is the least deadly variant. Covid ran out of steam! It's less lethal than the common flu.



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wilmers13 • an hour ago
10 weeks = 5 boosters p.a. Good lord, who's gonna fund that?

Anonymous said...


Karma22 • an hour ago
They will never stop with all this BS until the vaxxed are all dead or sterilized

Al Fresco • an hour ago
UK reveals how long boosters protect from Omicron: less than the time it took you to read this sentence!

CMEequalsGW • 2 hours ago
The scamdemic has scamvaxxes.

Anonymous said...

Unfortunately, the Chinese are not that a cohesive force especially the overseas Chinese living in 5 eyes nations unlike the Indian diaspora who still think their motherland India is the best.

Just look at the anti-china articles from the Anglo media. Many are penned by ethnic Chinese or co-written by ethnic Chinese. Many of the pro-democracy pushers from HK, Taiwan and DPP openly shill for the Evil Empire.
Even in Singapore, quite a few academics are antichina if you read their social media posts such as Collin Koh and William Choong, both of Chinese heritage.

Anonymous said...

And there are 2 Melissas,Chan and Chen who specialise in sending anti China tweets. One originated from HK and the other a Singaporean. They have even been ridiculed by the whites themselves for being hypocritical anti-China.

Anonymous said...

There is no ethics in the drug manufacturing business. Drug companies are all out to make more money and life is secondary to them.

I was shocked to read that some drugs were so cheap to make, but due to legal constraints, they prohibited others from offering them at a fraction of the price, so that they cam charge astronomical prices to suffering patients, who often die because they could not afford.

Covid vaccine is no exception. Is the shortage real or fabricated? Millions of doses of near expiry date vaccines have to be destroyed in Nigeria. The West thinks Africa is their dumping ground for waste, toxic digital waste and expiring medications.

Anonymous said...

HO Ching
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1927111824143309&id=100005335308340

MiRXes was one of the earliest in Sg to help with then production scale up for the Covid PCR test kits early last year.

A huge thanks to them and others for variously developing, testing, producing and distributing various tests, from Covid PCR diagnosis to Covid ART screening tests, from antibody to neutralising antibody test kits, from hand sanitizers to masks.
Kudos, everyone, and a big thank you.

January will bring the Omicron challenge to our shore.

We should expect raw numbers to go up, just as UK and others have well surpassed their already record high Delta peaks previously.

While there will be a lag for serious and fatal cases to show up for the Omicron, we know the risk is not zero.

True, some of the early reported deaths were due to other serious illness, and not from Omicron per se - the Omicron was an incidental finding when patients were admitted to hospital for other serious conditions. They just happened to be tested Omicron positive after admission as part of hospital covid prevention SOP.

But some deaths were specifically attributes to Covid - these tend to be unvaccinated with other underlying conditions which increase their covid risks.

So we should expect fast growth in numbers, with some deaths esp among the unvaccinated.
Cases can double every 1-3 days.

But, as we are beginning to see in Gauteng in South Africa, the numbers zoomed up, and they began to see numbers fall in about a month as the virus finds fewer and fewer uninfected folks to hit.

The question is whether the Omicron infection provides reasonable immunity protection against the still raging Delta.

If it does, and turns out be mostly mild, then we could perhaps see the beginning of the end of Covid.

Let’s see if the things really work out that way - we will need to wait for 3-6 months to know which way the virus dances.

Meanwhile, we must be prepared to dance with the virus as it changes shape and shifts its course.
It’s a kind of race that we can win if we can move from a reactive stance, to start to get ahead of the virus.

Let’s be mentally prepared to face the Omicron wave in January/February, latest by March, but the latter is probably too optimistic.

So folks should use this period to step up to be vaccinated, and boost when they are due.

Don’t wait till it’s too late.

KNN said...

The Chief Drug Pusher is pushing very hard, harder and hardest for daft people to go and get injected with the unknown effects substance produced by Pfizer 'vaccines' because of the large enormous stocks that need to be stored at minus 70 degrees Celsius, a very costly affair.

Moreover, the Pfizer 'vaccine' cannot be kept for long. Its expiry date is only six months at the most.

So, the Chief Drug Pusher is now extremely desperate. If the stocks cannot be pushed out, if there are no takers, those Pfizer 'vaccines' purchased six months ago will go to waste.

That's the reason why 500,000 doses were lent to Australia.

Australia has returned the 500,000 doses two months ago. Now, there is an urgent need to ensure these extra 500,000 doses are not kept too long, taking up storage space and wasting storage costs.

That is the reason why, by hook or by crook, our young children are now being attacked by the unscrupulous!

Anonymous said...

It's all a big coordinated scam between the vaccine producers and government agencies to make more money. And hoodwink the masses.

Anonymous said...

A big thamk you for making more money from the masses. Birds of the same money-minded species flock together and shit together in front of every one.

Queen of Hearts said...

Covid-19 Prolific Mutations To Outwit The Lazy And Short-Sighted Political Leaders:

2019 - Covid-19 Novel Coronavirus Era, beginning from USA.

2020 - Covid-19 Alfa, Beta and Charlies Variants Era spreading across the World.

2021 - Covid-19 Delta Variants Era beginning from India.

2022 - Covid-19 Omicron Variants Era beginning from South Africa.

Anonymous said...

Always the same question baffles me. Why are those tested negative at embarkation point, suddenly becomes positive upon landing, just hours later? Is there a big loophole, like fake vaccination documents being circulated.

Then there is the question of how long the incubation period for symptoms to appear. What happens when some boarded were tested negative, landed again tested negative, becomes positive days after being let loose?

You know negative plus negative can become positive? LOL

Anonymous said...

No booking required for third Sinovac jab; walk-ins for mRNA booster shots available for those eligible

People who took their second dose of Pfizer-BioNTech/Comirnarty or Moderna vaccine at least five months ago can now walk into any vaccination centre for their booster jab without making an appointment.

Meanwhile, all eligible individuals who have taken their first two doses of the Sinovac-Coronavac vaccine can now walk into selected vaccination centres for their third dose, said the Ministry of Health (MOH) on Friday (Dec 24).

These vaccination centres include those offering the Moderna vaccine and Raffles City Convention Centre, which offers the Sinovac vaccine and takes walk-ins until Dec 31 this year.

People aged 60 and older who have gotten two doses of the Sinovac vaccine can also walk into centres offering the Pfizer vaccine for their third jab.

"In view of the rise in Omicron cases globally and locally, there is a need to be boosted for better protection," said MOH in a statement.

About 29,000 individuals who have received their first two doses of the Sinovac vaccine are due for their third dose, said MOH.

Those who opt for Sinovac will need three doses of the vaccine to maintain their fully vaccinated status.

MOH urged people to take either the Pfizer or Moderna mRNA vaccine for their third dose unless they are medically ineligible to do so.

"Antibody levels from the Sinovac-CoronaVac vaccine decline rapidly within three to six months after completion of the second dose," the ministry said.

"Emerging international data indicates that while the mRNA vaccines, especially with booster vaccination, are protective against the Omicron variant, the Sinovac-CoronaVac and Sinopharm vaccines result in weaker neutralising activity and may not be protective."

MOH's announcement on Friday comes after it previously reminded those who took the Sinovac vaccine to take a third dose before Dec 31, as long as three months have passed after their second dose.

If they do not do so beyond the time period, their vaccination status will revert to "additional dose needed", and they will be subjected to vaccination-differentiated safe management measures.

MOH also said that from Monday (Dec 27), three vaccination centres - Bishan Community Club, Canberra Community Club and Tanjong Pagar Community Club - will offer both the Moderna and Pfizer vaccine.

However, those who have already booked a slot for either of the vaccine types will have to keep to the vaccine they have chosen, said MOH.

Anonymous said...

The Chief Drug pedlar is really desperate trying to convince the unconvertable. Wonder how many here can be converted with all the wasted effort. I know most just ignored the advertisement. As on Youtube, the moment ads come on, I press 'skip ad'.

Voice For The Future said...

1. MOH's data is not accurate and unsubstantiated.

2. They are mainly hearsay evidence cooked up by the competitors of Sinovac and Sinopharm vaccines and Anti-China elements both in the US and in Singapore. Remember, there is a vaccines war going on.

3. MOH is pushing strongly for the use of the Pfizer and Moderna 'vaccines' in favour over Sinovac and Sinopharm vaccines because Temasek Holdings has a huge stock of the Pfizer and/or Moderna 'vaccines' that need to be dispensed off because of the expiry date and the heavy cost of storage.

4. Anti-bodies level naturally drops a few weeks after any vaccination when the body is not infected. When the body is infected, the body that has been immunised with the traditional Sinovac or Sinopharm vaccines will produce the anti-bodies necessary to counter the viruses. Therefore, the use of low anti-bodies level as an excuse to belittle and denigrate the Sinovac and Sinopharm vaccines is disingenuous and greatly flawed. This is a great disservice to those who have chosen the Sinovac and Sinopharm vaccines for their protection against the Covid-19 infections.

5. The credibility of the Experts Committee is, therefore, highly questionable. It has already failed the public a few times in the past. So, take its advice with a handful of salt.

Anonymous said...

The next two countries to be hit by new variants would be Brazil and Russia, remaining two of the 5 BRICS countries.

China, India and South Africa already got hit.

Anonymous said...

Lee Hsien Loong
December 21 at 6:10 PM

https://www.facebook.com/leehsienloong/posts/457056659113802

Children aged 5 to 11 can now get COVID-19 vaccinations, starting next week.

Those born between 2009 to 2012 can get their jabs starting from 27 December, while those born between 2013 and 2017 can get theirs subsequently. 15 paediatric vaccination centres will be progressively set up islandwide for this exercise.

The children will receive the Pfizer-BioNTech/Comirnaty paediatric vaccine. SMS invitations will start going out to parents tomorrow.

Thanks to your cooperation, 96% of our eligible population have been fully vaccinated.

Vaccinating younger children next will help to keep them, their families and the wider community safe, especially with the Omicron variant spreading everywhere.

I encourage parents/guardians to get your child or ward vaccinated if they are medically eligible. – LHL

#SGUnited

Anonymous said...

What is this trying to prove? That he is leading the nation during this crisis?

Only once in a blue moon then delivered a speech here and a speech there.

Only once in a purple moon then post a page on Facebook.

Wifey is doing it every single day. She is the one leading the country and mastering the people together.

Hubby is so sickly looking. Where got energy to lead the people like what a normal and healthy leader should be?

No wonder wifey is taking the lead.