Trump is going to spend US$5.6b to build a Great Wall of America, 2,000
km long to rival the Great Wall of China. The only similarity between
these two Walls is that they are both called Walls. When the Chinese
built their Great Wall, it was to keep the barbarians out, to stave off
the marauding hordes from invading China, killing and looting China.
The intent and purpose of the Trump Great Wall are totally different. It
is to keep migrants, like the pioneer white Europeans, from finding a
better life in the land of the free. The USA is a land of the free, a
land taken free, seized from the native Americans, without paying a
single cent, for the poor European migrants to start life anew. Now the
North Americans are going to keep away southern Americans, the Mexicans
and the lots that are American natives and have more rights to live in
the land of the free, their land, to start a new life. What an irony and
unfair proposition.
The migrants are just normal people, not barbarians or marauding hordes
wanting to invade the USA, to kill North Americans. They just want to
live and work in the USA, nothing more, nothing less. What is so bad, so
evil, that the Trump Administration wants to spend US$5.6b to keep
these people out, mothers, children and their parents? And it is not
just the Trump Administration, all the European Americans are in favour
of the Wall to keep the migrants out, but in different forms or
different kinds of walls.
Come on Americans, you stole the land from the native Americans. It is
only reasonable to share this stolen land, the land of the free, free
land, with free people that just want to live there like every one of
you.
It is selfish, devious, against human rights and liberty and against
what the Statue of Liberty stands for, welcome immigrants to the land of
the free. At least in Singapore we are opening our little piece of rock
to the rest of the world. We are going to pump in migrants, several
times our local population, to fill up the island, to share the island
with all who wants to come here and to become owners of this piece of
rock. Our piece of rock belongs to everyone that comes here. The
Americans must learn from Singapore, be unselfish, be enlighten, be
generous, you have a continent of land and can welcome hundreds of
millions to the stolen free land. Singapore is only a piece of rock but
we have no problem bringing in the millions, no need to build any walls
to keep out the migrants. We welcome all migrants. We even gave them
good jobs, top jobs, never mind our own PMETs going jobless or become
taxi drivers and cleaners.
Shame on you, Americans. After stealing the land from the natives you
are keeping the natives out of their homeland. Most of the migrants are
original people of the Americas, they are not Europeans that came and
stole their land.
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In line with "Uncle Sam First" policy, Trump wants to erect a wall to keep out its southern neighbours from entering the Beautiful Country. The wall will cost more than $5 billion. It has to be monitored, maintained and repaired. There are also environmental issues such as the effect on wildlife, water rights around the Rio Grande and border treaties concerning those water rights. A significant amount of land has to be purchased from private citizens where the wall passes. Uncle Sam does not have the money and Trump is blackmailing Congress to give him the money or face a protracted shut down.
Trump's Great Wall is an eyesore. China's Great Wall is a tourist attraction and is a money spinner for the country.
Will Sinkkek land built her own wall?
To protect our people from the maurading barbarians that made our people became Basking Beggars, taxi drivers and other meninal jobs.?
Think unlikely So. Anyway, think Sinkies deserved their fates being apathetic.
WP, of all the places declared in Parliament that they want to have a third of Parliamentary seats.
Made my toes laugh being a second PAP party. Talked out of context in Parlimentary meetings.
Maybe already in league with the Papies wayang to con the dafts.
Might as well have the PAP members stand on behalf of them.
Power comes out of the barrels of guns and nuclear bombs.
Sinkieland have human wall against the original barbarians -- the Bumis & the orang asli & the orang laut. We don't want and we don't need these poor useless fuckers fucking up Sinkieland.
Our human wall are our cheap labour NSFs in SAF and SPF.
However Sinkieland welcomes the rich barbarians, those with more money & more talents than Sinkies, who can only afford HDB flats and the only money they have is CPF.
We have built special grand entrances in our wall to welcome these rich talented new barbarians. Our latest grand gateway is called Terminal 5.
Trump's proposal to build a 2000-km wall is facing stiff opposition. Building a cheaper fence has been suggested. The $5 billion could be put to better use. Uncle Sam needs to do something about infrastructure, roads, bridges, poverty, homelessness, domestic crime, unaffordable college education, unaffordable healthcare and medical costs, provisions for the elderly, transportation issues in every major city and increasing toxic and cancer-causing pollution.
Trump’s wall is the result of his warped mind which includes manipulating, cheating, lying, and bullying. He is not compassionate nor altruistic and the Congressional leaders who support him are equally bad or even worse.
Uncle, can you stop haranguing Donnie Trumb. He is up to his eyeballs with so many problems arrowing him since he took up the presidency that his balls are sweating like hell and he really wished he had stayed as a talk show host in that stupid programme.
Cut the fat slob some slack will you?
Oh, you'll be glad to know that China is upping the ante over the stupid american cock sucking Canadians by sentencing a man convicted of drug trafficking to death. A white man facing the firing squad. Wow, that's nice for a change.
@ What A Wonderful World:
Despite the constant criticism of the MSM as a source of “fake news” and “anti-China bias”, I support the MSM for the production of entertaining content on a daily basis. Every morning, I posit the question: What is is asshole up to today? and am usually rewarded with another story of the latest Trump fight.
2 days ago Trump threatened to “devastate Turkey’s economy” if the Turks fucked with the Kurds. Then Trump mocks Jeff Bezos on Twitter calling him “Jeff Bozo”. Our lazy-eyed, penis- head Dictator-Slave Master of Amazon has dumped his wife and family. Nothing like some scandalous pussy-story to get the internet going. Men will be men, and rich and powerful men will always be enslaved by their biology (aka “think with their dicks”). ๐ค
Trump’s frustration of not getting the funds to build his “wall’ has led to a US govt shutdown. Nothing serious, but a few federal workers don’t have their jobs anymore. These furloughed workers are so desperate, they are selling personal items on Craigslist and Facebook. WOW! Trump is causing many people to take a haircut as effects from his policies. The Trade war with China has affected exporters, especially farmers. Fuck Apple, they need to be taken down a few pegs anyway….so it’s not all bad news. ๐คช
If you look at Trump’s Wall, you will notice that in many places it is just a high metal fence. How can this possibly compare to the grandeur of The Great Wall of China? ๐ Please lah, no contest!
The Great Wall is rich with meaning --- from culture, to history to the aspirations of the Chinese nation, even to people of Chinese origin born, bred and domiciled overseas as the offspring of Chinese immigrants to other lands. The Great Wall is revered and has a status not unlike a “religious” icon...until now. Enter Goldman Sachs, and the rest of “the usual suspects” from Wall Street, NY, NY, USA.
When Goldman Sachs began operations in China, hey celebrated with a party on The Great Wall itself. Typical. GS has to “make a statement” wherever they go to conquer, pillage and dominate. In fact, I spot a huge error in the Chinese govt: its relationship to the big boys of Wall Street --- GS, JP Morgan, Blackstone etc…not a god thing lah. Maybe it’s because the Chinese bourses are now integrated with the world, and account for a large portion of global financial asset transactions. But still, getting to cosy with these Banksters is trouble just waiting to happen. GS just has to issue some “toxic derivative security” into the China market, and many people and businesses will be hit.
The Great Wall of China may have kept foreign interlopers and invaders at bay, but it hasn’t stopped Wall Street from setting up (BIG!) shop in China. Like the predators they are, they are lying in the grass, waiting to strike when the time is right.
Trump's purpose of building the wall is not to keep out illegals per se, rather this wall will keep his name in posterity. No other US president did this throughout history and he intends to be remembered in concrete or steel.
This man's ego is so huge he thinks he is the best US president ever. Everything in his vocabulary is 'me, me and me' as opposed to Obama's 'we and us'. Trump is immune to shame, does not know the meaning of lying and thinks being president is like lording over everyone in 'The Apprentice'.
Trump is above all also a massive tax cheat, not as successful a businessman as can be seen in his sixth time bankruptcy record. He even lied about his net worth in the fortune 500 list. That shows what a flawed character he really is. And yet, he is the US President now. What a joke?
The US is in a laughable state with crumbling infrastructures needing repairs or renewals and yet they are fighting over money for a wall and shutting down the Government.
This is a clear sign that the evil empire is crumbling and still trying to flog a dead horse.
There is so many li hai people in Singapore. I am still jobless leh. Where got free lawyer to sue the government ah? My dad sleep at Workers Party void deck leh. Low Thia Khiang drive 2 door car? I so daft, I let li hai people prove themself, my problem still not solve leh. How the investor or Ang Moh expect PAP or WP to lead Singapore, when my problem so easy to solve, not solve? Missing funds leh? Millions scoot away?
I wonder those li hai people, what did their parents or religion or LKY or Low Thia Khiang or TCB teach them? Those religion master learn what from their praying?
I gave those li hai people a chance to prove themself, yet people fail me. And expect me to go so many army? Is the Ang Moh sane? Our leaders wear white, millions scoot away? Missing funds? And people complain about CPF?
See ah.
I go to Lee Hsien Loong meet the people session.
I go to Lam Pin Min MPS.
Go to Low Thia Khiang MPS.
Go to Sylvia Lim MPS.
Go to Legal Aid Bureau.
Go to Law Society.
Aiyo. All this people parents teach them what ah? Boh Ka See and Boh Tua Boh Suay is it? My dad can sleep void deck? Respect old people? Give you all a chance, also dunno how to prove yourself. Want to lead country? Ang Moh are daft. Seriously. Millions can scoot away? People complain about CPF? Better dont alliance with Ang Moh. Wear white clothes one, Ah Tiong can million scoot away? White skin one, Make America Great Again, Money leh Money leh? How to have 5G? Please dont disturb Hua wei la. Blame yourself and your alliance country useless. No one owe you a living. Peasant in Singapore should go teach white skin Ang Moh leaders one very important value, no one owe you a living. Your Ang Moh alliance state, NTU and NUS so li hai, millions can scoot away, invent 5G? 6 smoke bomb also can throw ah? Dear white skin leaders, what leadership quality you want from our white clothes leaders?
Do you all know why peasant here in Singapore under white clothes kpkb? Because you all white skin kpkb what. Is feng shui issue. Ah Tiong invent 5G and millions scoot away loh, than in the brain maybe thinking, you all whites skin leaders, white skin peasant and white clothes leaders, white clothes peasant, carry on kpkb while we invent stuff to the moon and million scoot away. Woo hoo.
Did I say anything wrong? President Xi and President Trump, who looks more kpkb? Peasant in Singapore should teach white skin leaders another values, empty vessel make the more noise. Where does peasant in Singapore serve so many army, learn the values from? Want ask our white clothes leaders?
Goh Keng Swee scoot from Malaysia to Singapore to China? Why not the white skin leaders just invest in Malaysia and China? We are daft here leh. Not daft meh? How millions scoot away from the leadership of white clothes leaders on top? And below white clothes peasant complain about CPF? Millions scoot away, need to ISA anyone and suspect of communism a not ah? All those things that happen to white clothes peasant in Singapore, Ang Moh want to ask White Clothes Leaders why a not ah? Need to suspect of communism, British approve the swoop, ISA people?
This blog is right. Peasant in Singapore should look up to yellow skin leader wear formal clothes. I can share with them what I do in military. Wait, I am not officer, dunno so much. Any retired officer go do business in China a not? Is the Ang Moh scared? "Hmmm Sai Keng" ah. Just go toilet keng sai till the white skin become red will do. While the white clothes peasant kpkb CPF, kpkb jobless, kpkb army and keng sai until blood come out and stain the white clothes, like the white skin keng sai until skin become red, Ah Tiong is inventing new stuff. How to expect ask peasant here to have talent? Siao Ang Moh? Can ask the white skin leaders ask our white clothes leaders what style they are managing us, and we white clothes peasant cannot invent stuff, cos we are busy keng sai, kpkb, fight cpf, fight foreigners?
When the white skin leaders read this, wah, sound logical ah? Of course lah. I am yellow skin leh. Go moon already okay. You mean our white clothes leaders, never ask NTU or NUS student write report on why people kpkb this, kpkb that, millions scoot away? I am yellow skin leh, but I am not the one who let million scoot away, you want ask our white clothes leaders? I am also curious why the peasant here kpkb cpf after I go so many army leh. Like that how to have talent when we are busying kpkb so many things? The white skin leaders want to ask our white clothes leaders why a not ah?
KAKAKAKAKAKAKAKAKAKAKA.
Daft white skin leaders kpkb.
Daft white clothes peasants kpkb in Ang Moh alliance country. Soccer team leh? Why table tennis player cannot ownself train, must buy? We are Ang Moh alliance country, we will be so lousy meh? CPF leh? Job leh? Risk of being arrested while caring for our Ang Moh alliance country?
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In the mean time, Li Ning say, thank you, thank you. Millions scoot away? Thank you everyone, Thank you.
White skin leaders want to talk to our white clothes leaders, counsel them, say nvm, it is okay, let move on? I am still siting at home leh. I am feeling daft. Is the white skin leaders feeling daft already? British approve the swoop than what political coward? Ang Moh is daft. For sure.
Let go China. This blog is right. No point caring for Ang Moh alliance country. Very hard to talk sense to White Skin leaders as they are daft. No help at all. No one owe you a living. Look at their own country. Chio si lang. Later we talk too much, dunno British will approve the swoop a not? Millions can scoot away, want ISA a not? Can I ask the white skin leaders, who is the one who is causing problem to my life under the management of white clothes leaders?
209pm anon is right also. US is in a laughable state. I am feeling daft in Ang Moh alliance country, the peasant in Ang Moh country must be Chio Si Lang also.
Any Ang Moh want to find me a job? Sit at Legal Aid Bureau counter? How many sitting down there ah? Very busy a lot of people go is it? Want check CCTV? They got serve army one a not ah? Pay how much? Where are they from ah?
I am not impress with the Standard from our White clothes leaders leh. Can I ask the white skin leaders why? I feel they are very lazy leh. Compare to the salary I get in army and the training I go thru, I feel I am more worth it and I am more hard working. So what kind of free thing can I get ah? Am I entitled to free hospital? Who got $8 heart bypass? Pay how much still pay $8? So I must be free leh. No logic how to have talent ah white skin leaders? Want wait for more people to scoot millions away and Huawei 10G than you all will wake up is it?
UG what u need is dor re mi lar or ass sodomy.๐ Ask not what the country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country. So stop this entitlement mentality. Else accept dor re mi from matilar๐
Wah really? Can I ISA this batch of white clothes leaders for the peasant living in Ang Moh alliance country and for white skin leaders?
Does the $8 heart bypass person say I got money, I will pay in full instead of $8? Because I wear white clothes, I represent white skin, I must show my leadership and LKY Iron Fist?
Singapore healthcare cyberattack: Officials will not name hackers who targeted PM Lee - SCMP
Is it the US ???
Why afraid to name who did it?
Dared not punch above the weight already?
Or still unable to find out who did it?
Either ine of them reflects poorly on the leadership and the min of health in particular, and the gov in general.
Don't deserve the $million salary!
World best talent, outstanding, my foot!
Is it India ??
Hmnn ... maybe the revelation would cause some embarrassment, so they kept mum.
"We want Singaporeans to understand that we’ve got nothing to hide here." said Communications and Information Minister S Iswaran (todayonline Jan 15).
Hey, then what's the identity of the cyber attacker ??
"We want Singaporeans to understand that we’ve got nothing to hide here." said Communications and Information Minister S Iswaran (todayonline Jan 15).
THAT'S WHY YOU ALLOWED OUR PERSONAL AND CONFIDENTIAL DATA TO BE HACKED BY FOREIGN HACKERS?
It is your very job to HIDE our data from Hackers! Wake up! Deduct your pay. No bonus for you this year.
"Nothing to hide"?
You have milliins of data to hide and make them totally secured from any intruder or hacker, foreign or local, external or internal.
You have benn hiding your pay and assets. If you have nothing to hide, please DECLARE YOUR INCOME and ASSETS to thd PUBLIC!
Nothing to hide?
The facts speak volumes:
When did you detected the breach?
When did you reported to the Police?
When did you make a public announcement?
Why the lapse of almost 20 days to inform the public?
Truth cannot hide. Only humans, especially politicians, especially those politicians who have a big stake of sel-interest to protect.
Comee on. Come clean. Honesty is the best policy, even for pol8cy-makers themselves.
I totally disagree with you red bean.
Firstly, you say that most of the migrants are native people to the USA. Nope. The migrants are from Honduras, Guatemala, Mexico. They are not the native North American Indians at all!!!
I fully support Donald Trump in building the wall. The Democrats war-loving people blokes like Nancy Pelosi, are turning this into a political game at the expense of the normal people. No should blame Trump for the shutdown of govt., It is a quirky provision in the USA constitution that allows shutdown in case of major disputes between Republian and Democrat, I guess it puts the pressure on the People to ensure that a solution must be found. No government should sit on a problem for years and pretend to do something but not actually doing anything. DT, the eccentric crazy Presidrnt is right 100% to build the wall. Please don't watch CNN and NBC. The are worst than straits times. They are numerous videos on alternative media fully support the wall construction.
The 5.6 billion is peanuts compared to 200b or more spent in Afghanistan and Unnecessary destabilising regime wars which are done by Obama Clinton Bush satans.
Donald Trump is the only president who is capable of reducing physical wars. He is constrained to some extent by Deep State illuminati to continue some wars, but it is on a much smaller scale, and he is doing his best to stop the physical wars.
I think it is futile to compare the American historical conquest of red Indians to the morale of building the wall. BEcause the President has a duty to prevent the drug smugglers, human traffickers, and illegal immigrants from crossing the border. Past presidents failed to address this problem. DT is the only President who really actually do what he says he would do.
Eccentric and crazy President is the best America ever has in years. Way better than the 100times more evil Bush and Clinton. Many People in USA knows. That's why DT is elected. His shady past and eccentric ways are forgiven. DT tells lies, yes, but his lies are much safer than Bush Obama Clinton evil lies.
Regards
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Bak8ng up the wrong tree.
Read carefully before you comment. Otherwise you are making a fool of yourself.
All politicians tell lies. You have to gauge which lies are more poisonous and less evil. Obviously, "we have evidence that Saddam Hussein has Weapons of Mass Destruction" or "HDB is an Asset in perpetuity" are worst lies than today's news "I have 1000 hamburgers in the white house" (actually only 300).
Yes Trump is a compulsive liar. His lies are obvious so it is not dangerous. THE MOST DANGEROUS LIES ARE SUBTLE LIES WHICH ARE NOT OBVIOUS AND INLY GETS DISCOVERED MUCH LATER.
Trump is very very hardworking, good President.
Correction:
Should be "Barking up the wrong tree."
The Guatemalans and Hondurans and many from Latin America have more rights to be in North America than those from Europe.
As for the Mexicans, they have absolute right to be in the USA. Many of the southern states like California, Texas and the neighbouring states belonged to Mexico but seized by the white Americans after several wars.
That is warped thinking red bean. Are you advocating Sanctuary Cities like Nancy Pelosi and co., fully affording protection for Mexican Guatemala Honduras people streaming over into San Diego, just because if the history that White man killed the red Indians? Do not forget, the wall that DT wants to buikd is to stop illegal immigrants. DT already said numerous times that he is welcoming at all times immigrants who ask to enter, by the proper channels. The crisis is happening because there are loadsof caravan arriving all of a sudden. Who paid the journey? There is something very fishy going on. Your understanding of USA is dismal, red bean. You only know about the destruction of Sioux and Mohicans. Stop reading CNN and Washington post. Go watch Tucker Carlson and Foxnews.
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CNN and many fake news media is branding the Wall as "Donald Trump's" wall. This is as fake a news as "foreign talent" used by Pap. There is nothing "talent" about anything "foreign." Not necessarily. Same thing. The wall is not Donald's. It is just a wall, to be build for improving American welfare and safety. Msm in USA is playing Partisian divisive politics by branding the wall as Trump wall!! Nancy Pelosi even said the wall is "immoral". How absurd and diabolical. Nobody objected to the wall before. Even chuck shummer support ed the wall before. But after DT became president and made it a promise to the Americans, chuck turned around roti Pratap flip. Red bean please educate yourself more on America politics beyond Sioux and mohicans, before misleading tons of daft sinkies here who only know how to echo what others say and with no mind if their own.
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Red bean the amount of misinformation you put here is horrendous. When I said about Honduras people entering illegally you change track and say the Mexican have a right to be in California because white men conquered California from Mexicans. Even if you read the fake news CNN, they will report that the caravan is arriving from Honduras and Guatemala. Right now there is no Mexican caravan per se, are you aware at all? And the issue at hand is not a racial issue. Just like some politicians you are twisting it into a racial problem. To date drug cartels are smuggling drugs in one direction and bad Americans are smuggling firearms in the other direction. This has nothing to do with race, dude. It is huge money and many people are benefitting at the expense of increased crime rates in all areas for many years because the current border wall is not secure and broken up in many sections. A continuous wall is a necessity. It works and there is no reason why it should not be built. Legal emigration into USA is never denied, even if a wall is build. So simple to understand, yet CNN fake news and others are tearing USA apart with their propaganda. A very wise man though a liar in occasions, said FAKE NEWS MEDIA IS THE ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE. Which incidentally was corrupted by CNN to "news media is the enemy of the People"
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@ self professed Trump supporter:
Yes, contrary to misinformed popular belief: Trump is not a war hawk. He wants to decrease the amount of American military adventurism but not because he’s a tree-hugging peacenik. Far from it. He is no hippie. He simply doesn't want to give any more “free kicks” of protection to other cuntries, paid for by the US taxpayer.
Of course the war-mongering war hawks HATE this, because it fucks up their globalist at to agenda. It is the mostly the Dems --- the Pelosis, Clintons, Obamas and their kaki-nangs at the UN, IMF and World Bank who want to impose “freedom” and “human rights” and American Imperialism on other cuntries.
Trump is a “fortress America” guy --- build a wall, withdraw from the world, fuck everyone, make America Great Again. Trump’s personal relationships with strong men (fucking dick-tators) like Erdogan, Putin, Xi, Duterte, Mohammad Salman, Bolsonaro, Kim are more “solid” than his personal relationships with supposed US ally leaders like Trudeau, Macron, May, Merkel etc --- even though cuntries like Russia, China and N Korea are global-political rivals to the US. His cosiness with the likes of Kim, Putin and Xi drives Democrats (and the FBI) fucking crazy to the point they’ve labelled Trump a “traitor”. Trump considers the EU to be a bunch of “freeloaders” who expect the US to foot the bill for NATO.
I must say, although I find the man a total asshole, he is consistent on the following:
1 The First Amendment (free speech, free assembly, free expression)
2 The Second Amendment (guns)
3 100% for America and Americans --- even though policies like tariffs and govt shutdowns are probably bad choices
Domestic politics all around the world have shifted to populist NATIONALISM. One can argue the pros and cons for such a swing, but there’s no denying it is the political REALITY. People in every cuntry are just SICK and TIRED of their elected leaders and unelected appointed “officials” selling them out --- the voting taxpayers and their respective cuntries --- to be the sacrificial lambs on the altar of The Global Bankster Corporatists.. They’ve seen their taxes increase, their job security go away, their pensions blown apart, their debt levels blown out… Macron, for e.g. has made France the highest taxed cuntry, to satisfy the global climate change agenda, and the people have said: “Fuck you, no way!”
The PAP need to pay fucking attention here. They had better start ACTING like they’re 100% committed to PEOPLE and not just pay lip service to the idea. People in Singapore are also FED UP of what is now the global status quo. Suffice it to say, our expensive and world-acclaimed government has challenges that it needs to address, and not just “talk cock” and impose more stress on The People, whom they are supposed to SERVE, and who pay their exorbitant salaries.
Mr Matilah. You are right. I am glad you implicitly endorse all my writings despite your flamboyant and unconventional styles. All great men like you and Donald Trump have eccentricities. The world must learn to filter the truth from the smoke screen. DT in one of his earlier interviews said, "we (usa) are not that innocent too", when the reporter asked why he likes russian president Putin a killer.
That day onwards, I begin to track everything DT does, and I conclude he sincerely does not like American imperialism, he is a businessman, not a politician. He tells lies like all politicians. But he is very focussed and is an amazing tireless workaholic at his age.
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Some Folks are reading Donald Trump well.
And so are the Americans who voted and will vote for him again.
Donald Trump is the Messiah for Americans.
Americans like Malaysians are smart and brave. They look at the status quo and said "enough is enough no more lies,and empty promises" and they throw out Najib and crooked Hilary in 2016 and 2017 Sinkies are eternally cowards, brainwashed by Msm dare not give other politicians a chance to try. DT got his votes and without hesitation doing his best since 2017 doing everything he promised, in his own unique bulldoze way. Yes he's unstable boaster cock, liar, ex womaniser. So what. He didn't kill an entire Libya, he has no intention to continue secretly financing anti Assad terrorists like Obama. Salute to DT the boaster cock president who keeps promises (to date).
Redbean, you said "The Guatemalans and Hondurans and many from Latin America have more rights to be in North America than those from Europe"
Not true. The only rightful people in NA are the native Sioux and mohicans and other Indian tribes. Honduras people coukd have invaded these red arrow indian and claimed ownership, and today USA would be called USH UNITED STATES OF HONDURAS. It's wrong to say Honduras has more rights just because they happen to be 1000km nearer. What nonsense argument. Tell it to a Sioux ancestor and he will make redbean soup out of you chin Leng.
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@ 244
>> Sinkies are eternally cowards, brainwashed by Msm dare not give other politicians a chance to try. <<
I refuse to endorse the idea that Singaporeans are cowards. They're most certainly not. I will state that by my observations Singaporeans are CALCULATORS. As long as the PAP can give out "goodies" (not just free money lah) like opportunity and ways to get rich, they'll get majority support. Majority might drop when they are fed up enough to "send the govt a message", but the Singaporean brain (mine included) is always doing CALCULATIONS. ๐
This is why oppositions have no luck. They fail to read the culture and the hearts and money-centric minds of the Singaporean, who let's face it loves a good life. (And why not?)
The opposition perennially campaigns on IDEOLOGY, which is WAY THE FUCK OFF as far as the typical Singaporean is concerned. Who the fuck cares about "political theory"? Lan jiau le kah lah...take my cock for a walk... No Money, No Honey, You Die Your pasah. ๐คฃ๐ค
There a a few HUNDRED Lamborghinis, Ferraris and McLarens registered in Singapore...tiny Singapore where ordinary car ownership is a major depreciating investment. If that doesn't spike your radar about the wealth-centric culture on this island, you are probably sleepwalking.
In the past few years, even die-hard PAP voters have been questioning the performance of the Lee Hsien Loong/ Ho Ching PAP dynasty. If they CALCULATE that the PAP is no longer performing in ways where more people can get to own $1.5 million super cars, the PAP will lose the election.
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The thing about "rights" is that firstly, they are made up. If you say you have a "right" to a piece of land, a cuntry I can also can say I have a right to conquer you and take away your cuntry and make it my own. Rights are MADE UP. There is no such thing as an ABSOLUTE right. That said, if people cannot defend their rights, then there is hardly any point in even claiming such rights.
The American Indian is one of the many "conquered races" of human history. Too bad. They couldn't overpower their interlopers. But hey, now they get to own casinos TAX FREE!
Agree that pap supporters come from smart calculative people. Certainly not daft or stupid. In fact the opposite, clever opportunistic selfish people vote Pap. They know what's wrong but they just don't wanna rock the boat. I mean, rock the Lamborghini.
Disagree that land rights is virtual. I don't understand your logic that anyone can say I have a right to conquer you. This is crazy. You will next say I have a right to rape you, to rob you, to steal your money. There is some law and moral after all despite all your cynicism Mr MATilah!! Rights of land ownership is customarily and fairly accorded to those whose ancestors lived there and spoke the same language. In the context of above discussion, Honduras and Guatemala people can never qualify to own California or texas, as much as it is inadmissible for anyone to claim white man has rights to claim San Diego or Houston. Only the red American Indians can claim the land. That was the point i made for redbean to rebut his absurd logic.
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@humble ideas
You misunderstand. But that's ok. Can you prove to me that RIGHTS exist in fact, and that are not “made up” by the people who claim such rights?
My point is that rights always confer an obligation on the other party. ie. If you claim a right to property that means I am OBLIGATED to respect your right. If you say you have a right to a job, then somebody is OBLIGATED to provide you a job.
This is where conflicts come in, and therefore you need DEFENCE and LAW ENFORCEMENT to secure the rights, and then protect them.
If you don't have security and protection for your claimed rights, them your essentially don't have rights, because you have no way to assure the other party's OBLIGATION to respect/ observe the rights you CLAIM.
Which brings me back to the idea: you claim the land is yours by right, I say I don't accept the obligation to respect your claim. I make a counter claim to say that the land is mine. If you cannot defend your right, you'll lose your land to me. Once I get your land, I will claim property rights to it. The difference is I can DEFEND my claim.
Hope that clears it up. Rights are “made up” in human minds. In general, we've evolved to respect each other's basic rights. But occasionally we do go to war or sue in court because whatever we claim as rights, and their concomitant OBLIGATION comes into conflict.
Matilah. I can't agree to your ideas that a right is only valid if it is enforceable. You are saying that just because you have a gun and I have a tomahawk my rights will be nulled.
Rights exist in fact by universal protocol called Common Sense. If I lived in this land for years , was born here, and so did my ancestors, the universal protocol favours me to have the right to my land and in legal ownership thereof. Yes you are not wrong that such logic is made up in human minds. But it is implicitly accepted universally by the civilised world. Even the evil white man realizes it, today they still have Indian reservations, fake concession possibly, but still it is in recognition of the right of the American Indian whose lands were unfair seized in times past. The white man could have argued your way and ignored the descendants of the hapless red Indians, but the fact they didn't, proves that rights on exist on the basis of facts accepted by mankind.
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@ humble ideas
>> You are saying that just because you have a gun and I have a tomahawk my rights will be nulled. <<
Not "null" in principle, but you won't have a chance to express your rights simply because you can't defend those rights you claim.
There is no "universal protocol" called "common sense". If there was, there wouldn't be conquests and domination of one culture over another. "Common sense" is only common amongst those who agree to what it means, and practice it.
>> favours me to have the right to my land and in legal ownership thereof. <<
Legal means "under law, protected by law, enforced by law". If you don't have an agency (i.e. government, state, legal system) to do those, or you and your kin cannot provide those NECESSARY functions, you will be conquered (by people who don't respect your rights nor your idea of "common sense")
>> But it is implicitly accepted universally by the civilised world. <<
Even in the (so-called) civilized world there are CRIMINALS who often get away with violating these so-called "universal rights" which you seem so fond of.
In the case of the Native American Indian: because they were viewed as "savages" and only "partly human", they (according to the European "immigrants") didn't have the same rights as the Euros. There's your argument of "universality" busted, and factually proven in history.
BTW, the idea that Native Americans were savages and only part-human was COMMON SENSE amongst the European at that time.
If you go into some of the Rare Books in our National Library (thankfully now digitised and online at BooksSG, you will find similar sentiments from European authors about Asians --- Malays in particular --- being "savages" or only "part human" or "not fully realised humans", Many of these authors were noted SCIENTISTS in their day, and their views on race were considered "scientific". It might be SHOCKING to read such things now, but in their day these ideas were considered "common sense".
You don't have to agree with me. It's ok. Cheers!
to Matilah..
I am amazed at your analytical ability. Again it proves to me that unconventional people who say the most profane obscene stuff are oftentimes most adept at exploring the depths of the mind. On the other hand the quiet ones, polite ones, observing silently on the byways, and jumping suddenly into action when their feeble mind starts to comprehend the 1% of a 100% intellectual argument, are frequently the most irritating of all, when they spew comments with no substance. You probably know my line of thought.
Back to your argument. I think what you are saying is that Political Power comes from the Barrel of a Gun, Mao's frequently quoted one-liner. And that common sense is relative and can be decreed, yea, even Altered, by the higher level downwards, as in the case of the scientists or politicians who created the Doctrine of Christian Discovery and Manifest Destiny, the perfect tool to justify their slaughter of the subhumans as in the redindians, indians, and what-have-you. Therefore Rights is not an absolute concept.
It is a very interesting argument. Because in some ways it is correct. I extend your argument to man's tyranny over animals. The animals might be considered the ones with the rights to the land, being there first. However being stupid, being sub-human (which is true) these pigs and buffaloes are destroyed and tamed at the mercy of Man. Nobody, no activists, would speak up for them, cos indeed those are stupid animals. Personnaly i am also thorughly convinced, we have the rights over the land more than the buffaloes and antelopes!!!Hurrah.
Level up one step, is the doctrine you suggest. That the red-indians and certain races, are subhuman, therefore there is no crime to clear them off, they have no rights, any more than the buffaloes have right over ownership of the fertile lands and oasis in desert areas.
Level up a second step. Suppose thirty years from now a super alien creatures from the next galaxy entered earth and decided we humans are all stupid because they are so clever they claim the entire earth as theirs. They do have the rights to everything on earth. Because their weaponry is so superior we cannot challenge them, our "rights" dissintegrate totally. We become slaves in what we believed erroneously as our land in the first place, by your argument.
Quite mind boggling.
It is a dog eat dog and survival of the fittest paradigm after all. Nothing has changed since Adam and Eve arrived in Eden.
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@ humbleideas
Yes, the aliens (space type, not the immigrant type) will shit all over all our philosophy (the idea of “rights” is rooted in philosophy --- pick your school, there are many ;-) ) and they’ll make us their pets or their food.
The idea of rights comes from philosophy (moral philosophy) and from philosophy’s elder parent: religion.
Back to the ancient times: there was no such thing as “human rights” nor “individual rights to property”. It is important to remember this, because smart-arses like to judge the past by today’s standards of “morality”. Morality is contextual and has a chronological component: i.e. yesteryear’s morals are either laughed at or scorned at today, and the same applies when comparing today’s morals to stuff in the past.
In the past homosexuality was punishable by execution. Today we buy wedding gifts when our gay friends get married and openly declare their love on social media.
Anyway...back in ancient times, the only person who had RIGHTS was the sovereign or the village head. All the land and property “belonged” to the sovereign...even the right to sleep with a man’s bride before the wedding belonged to the sovereign. (Called “seigniorage”). The sovereign doled out the land to his subjects, and collected “rent” or a portion of the produce and this practice carried all the way into the feudal systems, and taxation systems when states were formed.
So when we speak of “rights” --- human, individual, property, intellectual property, women’s , LGBTQ rights….all these are very new IDEAS and only applicable in our times because we have developed as a species to a high degree of sophistication and most importantly achieved EQUALITY UNDER THE LAWS OF OUR LANDS, and the LAW ENFORCEMENT required to secure and guarantee those rights --- even though we’re unequal in almost every other sphere of human existence.
This “equality of treatment” is a new idea (Magna Carta), only about 600 years old. (when compared to the age of the human species: around 100k to 200k years). “Animal rights”, the “rights of the unborn” and “rights for robots” are even newer ideas enjoying vigorous debate in the public discourse.
Every RIGHT comes with a concomitant OBLIGATION, which is why there’s vigorous, often HOSTILE debate ๐๐คฃ
The world is alright. Thereos every reason to be positive and go ahead enjoying a wonderful life!
Birds of a feathers flock together.
YAWN
So were you.. You think your English is so damn good. Go and see yourself in the mirror first before you judge people. Full of vulgarities in all your comments and you think you are good. Pui. A mole.
9.58 Anon fully agree with you. His comment is full of his own motherfucking shit lar.
Right. Both he and the other dude need to be sodomize.
@matilah
That was very interesting viewpoint indeed.
I am not sure if Religion is the parent of Philosophy. I thought it could well be the other way round. Confucius lepak at the street corners and thought very hard and came up with Analects. After that people start to convert it to religion. Buddha ditto, but on Bodi tree. How could it be the other way round? If i were Jesus or Buddha, i still have to philosphise and institutionalise my thoughts first, e.g. Sermon on the Mount, and then to tell everybody, I am Son of God, and all the ideas (i would say philosophy), and then after that the resurrection (?) and people believe and undertand and beleive and the religion is born. Methinks philosphy is the parent of religion...
In any case, all religion preaches Rights, even rights to ascend to heaven! non believers dont have that right. Some even allocate the basic Right of Land (Canaan, the "Promised Land") whereever the land may be. Therefore, the Jews felt it their right to take over the land of the non believers the philistines, amalekites, hittites and jebusites, your ancient-time "Sub humans" if you will.'And loving it with no guilt conscience, or moral compass which exist.
I see your point! How true it is that Rights is actually a figment of the imagination.
Just by looking at our "rights" to take our own cPF out when reach 55. Now the default is 70. Unless you write in and tell them to take out at 65. We have no rights. Whoever has power, has the right over everything you do. It is a grand illusion to believe in the Legal System to defend yourself, which itself is subjugate to the bigger unseen force, not just in Singapore but any other country on earth. As i said this is survival of the fittest, the Magna Carta has no place at all and is Fake News. Chay.
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@ humbleideas
Just because our rights are violated in certain situations doesn't mean it is the end of the world. The CPF thing, coupled with the latest inclusion of COMPULSORY life insurance has upset many people; but it is still not the end of the world. There are options.
The world can be unfair and unjust, and the idea of "equality" applied universally throughout every aspect of human existence is just wishful thinking. People betray each other, governments can be guaranteed to not uphold social contracts...but it is still not the end of the world. We do have options. We have (hopefully) independent minds and the ability to choose our responses to every piece of shit life's vagaries throws at us.
It is also really good if one can accept reality with all its griminess and uncertainty --- especially when one's fate depends on the actions of others --- to which we have NO CONTROL OVER. Back to CPF again: NO ONE CAN CONTROL THE ACTIONS AND POLICY OF THE GOVT. CPF is legal, its management is struck in law (and under the purview of The President), and introduced by the British in the 1950s. The PAP took it over, and built it firstly as a way to fund public housing, and later added on all sorts of bells and whistles.
People have a mistaken belief that voting in an opposition will change the nature of CPF. Maybe. But here's the rub: not without the 'ok' from The President
Like I said, it is not the end of the world. There are still many opportunities, many ways to improve oneself and enjoy the wonderful things modern life in a wealthy society has on offer.
...and Haters are Gonna Hate, ๐๐คช so never allow those "toxic and negative spirits, cry-babies and life's losers"---who walk among us---to ruin your day, your life or your happiness.
What an interesting person you are. I thought you were a cynical crybaby yourself, with all the freedom of expression of expletives your regularly inundate this blog with. It surprises me you turn out to be the optimist, and me the pessimist. Also surprised to hear your advice that there are many things to learn... In the context of tiny Singapore opportunities to learn about life is extremely limited, and I am not even mentioning the political aspects which exacerbates such predicament.
@ humbleideas
Actually, I think myself as a realist---and I'm more wrong than right, because I'm human. ๐ฌ I can be optimistic, and pessimistic depending on the circumstance, and my mood---which as a human can swing to extremes, because let's face it, we are a walking bag of wet-chemical slime and goo (the physical) and our entire mental world is emotional. Emotions, feelings, urges are not choices---they come directly from our BIOLOGY, and more specifically our neurology.
Even when we say, "OK, I'm going to be rational and objective now", that is---and many won't admit it---an emotional decision. Emotions are both the Signal and the Noise, which makes human life very entertaining. ๐คก They can lead us to self-discovery or self-destruction, and interesting situations on which many blockbuster movies and top-selling books are based on: self-discovery through many painful processes of self-destruction ๐ฑ
So I say, go out, have fun...what's the worst that can happen?
My goodness. Those are very deep thoughts, "emotion is both the signal And the noise. Is this original or borrowed expression? If original, then you are quite creative. As an engineer, I am still struggling to understand how something can be both. Signal to Noise ratio traditionally has to be high, maybe 50decibels upwards. But if the signal is also the noise, I just cannot visualise it from the electronic domain. It is as difficult to comprehend, as Jesus' claim that He and the Father are one, and the "Holy Spirit" . I am stuck still in a mental black hole trying to digest this statement from your post.
@ humbleideas
>> I am stuck still in a mental black hole trying to digest this statement from your post. <<
Don't stress it. I have my own ideas. Please develop your own. There's a massive amount of science out there (the real deal --- studies, experiments with numbers and data) for you to digest. I can think of no finer way to spend one's time...but that's just me.
I use "Signal and noise" as an analogy only. We know that signal and noise are essentially "multiplexed" together --- it's up to you to filter the good stuff, and "decipher" the meaning....but also bearing in mind that the "equipment" you use for signal processing introduces noise too. ;-)
Modern life itself introduces lots of noise which muddies up the signal, which makes error prone humans more error prone.
>> I just cannot visualise it from the electronic domain. <<
Why not? All you see is "something"...it is some sort of waveform/ function. It contains useful information (the real signal) and noise (randomness). Back to the work of Claude Shannon / The 2nd Law / Entropy ? ๐คฃ
No doubt you are an engineer too. I can see footprints of Heisenberg Uncertainty Principles in your statement "Modern life itself introduces lots of noise which muddies up the signal, which makes error prone humans more error prone."
I am learning a lot from you, in fact MATilah is both Signal and Noise too, a completely schizophrenia dysfunctional entropy Singapore style. You are one in a million Singaporean you know. It's been long time since I discussed philosophy on the net. Oxygen from TRE came very close, but he was more a businessman than engineer. I think you are both, judging from your writings.
Living is multi-dimensional.
There is hardware to operate the Software and Vice-versa.
There is Science in everything. However,
Science may not decipher Spirit, the Emotional Software of Living Beings.
MS is comprehensively practical, pragmatic and intellectual. Definitely not a emotional person.
The Spiritual Domain is extremely complex and intricate and beyond Science though mankind uses Science to try to decipher it/Spiritual Domain.
lt shall end up chicken first or egg.
Totally sick in the brain this fella. Have your head examine lar.
345pm, you are right. Only Mad person happily and readily entertain another Mad person. To be more precise, kissing each other balls lar.
"MS is comprehensively practical, pragmatic and intellectual. Definitely not a emotional person".
"You are one in a million Singaporean you know".
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Huh? Did I hear correctly. Pui. Make me want to puke.
Ah Bill has 95b. 5b is small sum lah. Just ask the top 100 rich people in that land to pay up loh. After all must pay protection money. Uncle sam been protecting them and their assets for sooooo loooooog. Nothing free what.
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