The govt has confirmed that they knew the hacker of SingHealth
confidential data of its patients. It disclosed that ‘the attacker was
skilled and sophisticated, and had the characteristics typical of an
advanced persistent threat group, usually state-linked’. The govt has
taken appropriate action but would not identify the attacker due to
security reasons. Ooooh, why so?
Iswaran was quoted in thenewpaper as saying, ‘We want to ensure that all
Singaporeans understand that we’ve got nothing to hide here, we want to
get to the bottom of it as much as Singaporeans do.’ But the govt would
hide the identity of the attacker, at least this is what the govt has
done, nothing to hide except for this.
Who is the attacker, he used this in singular form, an individual or a
single country? Why is it so secretive that the attacker cannot be
revealed? He is someone very important that revealing his identity would
be very embarrassing? Is he someone we know, we trusted but played out
Singapore? Could he be a hired foreign talent still in Singapore that
would result in many red faces, or a Singaporean or a new citizen?
Or is the attacker a country, a friendly country that we trusted as our
good friend but again played us out by screwing our ass? Or is the
attacker country our enemy, too big to offend, we are afraid to offend
other big country because we dare not punch above our weight? We are a
small country and must shut up, no more loudspeaker politics? I think
taking such a meek stand would only encourage the offender to continue
to hack into our system knowing that we can only blow hot air but unable
to fight back, we are afraid.
Would it not be better to make it public for all to see who the attacker
was, friend or foe, to embarrass them so that they would not dare to
create mischief against us again? Remember the time when LKY exposed the
Americans for trying to bribe him just to embarrass the Americans to
prevent them from thinking that it was ok to do such mischievous act?
What is so secretive or embarrassing that the culprit cannot be named?
Someone’s identity needs to be protected, the attacker’s identity needs
to be protected? Whose interest is being protected by this non
disclosure? Is the attacker a minor so cannot be named?
Weird! BTH.
PS. I agree with many of the comments here that this is not funny but
fishy. What is the govt afraid of? No more balls in between the legs?
46 comments:
Someone has possession of my very personal data from SGH.
And Iswaran is not letting me know who has it.
Remember, the main target of the attacker was Lee Hsien Loong, the Prime Minister of Singapore.
So, this attacker that Iswaran is protecting could have threaten to expose the details of the health problems of the Prime Minister of Singapore if his/its name is being exposed to the public/world.
That is the only reason, I strongly believe, that the Government of Singapore has lost its guts to punch above its weight, if it really truly honestly sincerely knows who the attacker was/is.
But (BIG BUTT) it is likely that Iswaran still does not know exactly who the attacker was/is.
I have studied the Internet GLOBAL INTERNET TRAFFIC for the period before and after the INTRUSION AND ATTACK. It seemed to me, at that time, the attacker was from USA. Because the HUGE Volume of Aggressive Traffic came into Singapore from that direction (USA) via the Middle-East (probably Israel). This has been my conclusion from the analysis of the Global Internet Traffic during the two months period (before, during and after the attack on SingHealth).
That is all I can offer. I am not going into the details.
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Rb, it's not unusual that no balls between the legs as we do have quite a number of female ministers and MP lehπ
So now foreigners know full details of Pinky & Strokeman medical details while Sinkies remain in the dark... They will know how to tackle the current & subsequent PM while Sinkies don't know how to tackle the next GE... Good job PAPies!!
@ amateur Sherlock Holmes
One of my suspicions is that the hacker or hackers is/are local --- probably an "inside job".
The other suspects IMO are the well-organised state-sponsored (but disavowed) groups from Russia, Iran/Syria or China. It could be the NSA's "Tailored Access Operations" but I see no reason for the USA to hack into Singapore medical records....unless...the CIA has plans to fuck with our elections and ensure that their "partners" (PAP) remain in power.
One fundamental reason I really don't think it was the USA's TAO is that in this case the hackers were caught. The other hacker groups, whilst good at their craft, tend to be "untidy" and don't clean up after themselves --- leaving clues all over the place --- making their exploits discoverable. The NSA which has Israeli partners are still top-notch, neat tidy and SILENT.
@ Frog Outside Glass:
Hackers will use multiple hops to make their actual location difficult to detect. They'll also use VPN to connect, SSH, Putty, KiTTY or whatever.
For all we know the hack could have been done from a kopitiam with public wifi access right here in Singapore --- multiple-hopping to the Middle East and USA to connect back to the government servers here.
For e.g. I am now using a VPN connected to Amsterdam whilst sitting with a teh-C siew tie, at this kopitiam. π I often go to this kopitiam off Commonwealth which has free wifi, connect via VPN, and SSH into my desktops in either Australia or right here in Singapore. There is also The Onion Router (TOR) you can use.
BTW the kopitiam off Commonwealth Ave has wifi speeds exceeding 50Mbps --- plenty fast enough for a large data dump. Yes, I also spoof my MAC Address (using the sudo ifconfig command), but that is a redundancy since I bought my hacking laptop 2n hand using cash at Sim Lim. i.e. even with my real MACA, the name associated with this laptop will be that of the hapless original owner if the police trace the machine. π€£
If I want to get down and dirty, I can boot Tails OS or Kali Linux from thumb drives. All from a kopitiam in the heartlands. π€
If a botak, innocuous mid-60's self-taught uncle can sit at a kopitiam with so much potentially destructive power, don't you think it is possible that the hack could have originated right here in Singapore?
I think it is very fucking possible.
We get the information below about the hacker from the main media.
1. The government knew the hacker
2. The attacker was skilled and sophisticated, an advanced threat group linked to a state.
3. The authority has taken appropriate action but would not reveal the identity of the attacker due to security reasons.
4. "We want Singapore to know we have nothing to hide here."
5. " We want to get to the bottom of it as much as Singaporeans do."
What type of message is the above conveying? It appears very funny and illogical that the government knew the attacker but would not reveal to Singaporeans for security reasons.Whose security is the government protecting, Singaporeans or attacker.
"We have nothing to hide", yet it appears it is hiding something.
The fact that Singapore has taken appropriate action shows that it has got to the bottom of the issue. So why don''t tell everything. The whole message appears to be vague, unsure, lack of direction and misleading.
Tell the truth straight. Don't beat around the bush for it may cause suspicion that something fishy is being hidden.
The truth will set you free
Yes, very likely they did not know who is the hacker. On the other hand, Matilah, American induced mindset, the Americans are the best in hacking, everyone else are idiots, fumbling fools, would not believe the Americans would do such things even after Wikileak and Snowden's exposure.
I got this feeling that the hacker, if they really know, could be a friendly country like the USA or Israel that they dare not offend or exposure would be so embarrassing, being hacked by friends and allies.
Another strong possibility, the hacker is a foreign talent hired by a ministry or GLCs but went on to hack into SingHealth. Disclosure would be so embarrassing and also exposed the Stupidity has no Cure Syndrome for compromising our secret and confidential data to foreign talents, believing and trusting foreigners with our secrets.
This case, if it is done by a foreign talent, would lead to many silly red faces and there will be calls to expel all foreign talents in garment and garment linked companies.
@ 1259 oh what ignorance!
>> On the other hand, Matilah, American induced mindset, the Americans are the best in hacking, everyone else are idiots, fumbling fools, would not believe the Americans would do such things even after Wikileak and Snowden's exposure. <<
I didn't say the others were fumbling fools/ idiots --- you're the DISHONEST CUNT attributing fake words to me. π Hopefully you don't reflect the mentality of other more level-headed Singaporeans. π Majulah, motherfucker.
The state-sponsored hackers in every cuntry (everyone is into cyber warfare now) are excellent at their craft. All I'm saying is that the NSA are known to be STEALTHY. Why? Because the USA has to protect its "good guy" reputation. And thanks for brining up Assange (wikileaks) and Ed Snowden. Their documents prove how STEALTHY the US hackers are. No one knew what was going on until they spilled the beans. The NSA and CIA were up to all sorts of trick, all around the world, for years mostly undetected. Yes, they are ALL good hackers from every cuntry. But the NSA's "Tailored Access Operations" (TAO) are probably the best at remaining SILENT. This is my estimation of their capacity, is that ok with you? π€ͺ
The NSA's StuxNet hack is the classic example. The managed to INFECT super secure air-gapped (not connected to the net) Iran network with their StuxNet Worm which eventually severely damaged Iran's capacity to enrich nuclear fissile material. The NSA's hack remained UNDETECTED FOR 4 YEARS and took an enormous amount of detective work to finally find out about it.
P.S. In other words, if the TAO did indeed hack into SingHealth then:
1. The TAO is getting careless and sloppy (possible, highly unlikely)
2. Singapore's cybercrime/ security professionals are so fucking good they can IDENTIFY a hack by the NSA. (possible, but very fucking highly unlikely)
One of kaki's in the industry told me an well known American Israeli cybersecurity firm was called in to do the forensics. I have no knowledge to confirm this as true. I won't name the firm, but I heard that they might get the contract to defend Singapore's networks
MOM declines to publish the names of errant companies that discriminate against hiring Singaporeans.
Another Minister of PAP protectingthe crooks against the interests of local Singaporeans.
I think these fat cat Ministers must be thinking that their $million job is to serve the people by protecting the crooks. Reverse (or perverse) psychology?
Hacker who? Could it be that Dr M sending spy like a Mission Impossible movie Tom Cruise whom station somewhere in US or China of even the hospice itself? Why Dr M ? Possibly creating sabotage or wanto black mail Long San or creating havoc to the red dot cybersecurity ?.. Or some Dark Art or Dark forces wanto steal data for selling in the black market ? Or maybe some black ants or Aliens wanto hack in or some FTs itchy hands or the list goes on ...
Recently, there's a case of a staff nurse who negligently gave an elderly woman patient many times the medicine dosage.
Why is it they withheld the name and the nationality of that guilty nurse ?
Matilar, not that I wanted to say you. That dude is just advancing his argument so u tell me, u need to fuck him that way or not. Knn your backside itchy is it and need to be sodomized or what?
Sll tbose names they refused to let known could be their own relatives, whose security they want to protect. If that is the case, then we are witnessing nepotism and cronyism at the highest order.
The more they make use if "security" as a reason to protect the crooks from the innocent, the more we have rooms to speculate and suspect that some hanky-panky buddy-buddy (you rub my shoulder I rub yours) business is going on.
Remember, Keppel's big-time, high class corruption at high places have been hidden for 13 years until the US Justice Department exposed them and charged them, found them guilty and fined them heavily (all our taxpayers' money?).
If they can hide such outrageous corruption for so long, yet the AGC refused to charge Keppel (only given a warning), this shows something is not right, something is smelling fishy. Who are they trying to protect?
No need to hide English teacher who ah? See la, is Ang Moh lousy again. Always is Ang Moh la. Must be them.
My leaders wear white is it create me to hate Ang Moh? Next time I see Ang Moh in war, I turn to shoot them instead of enemy? 6 smoke bomb? I fall sick in army own self pay. Still jobless at home. Go this organization, go that organization, email here, email there, still not solve? Social engineering? North Korea vs South Korea? North Vietnam vs South Vietnam? North Singapore vs South Singapore? Yah lah. The Ang Moh is lan. Lose in Vietnam. Go fly kite man. Sell us more plane. We will learn more about your plane. Terrex detain, dunno plane will detain a not? I never see any Ang Moh minister leh. Got Penang one.
Hi 938am
You are vv innovative!
Sick and tired of all the hypocrisy!
What is so hush hush about security when people already hacked into the system?
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@ Let's Make some noise people:
The idea that the govt cannot tell us who the fuck stole OUR DATA is just fucked beyond words---the filthiest of filthy words that is, because no one should use use polite language when slinging anger at the “authorities”; you know, those expensive cock-head, shit-eating, cum-guzzling motherfuckers who are our PAID SERVANTS, and whose #1 JOB it is to KEEP THE CITIZENS AND THEIR PROPERTY SAFE. π
I think that they know who the culprit/ culprits is/ are. They are using the “national security” bullshit excuse because to reveal the identity of the hacker(s) will be a BIG EMBARRASSMENT (lose face, lau qui) to the PAP. The pain would be too much to bear, so gasak buta the “national security” reason and hope the people believe and accept is.
Hahahahaha...there’s this idea going around that claims “Singaporeans are gullible”. Huh? You think so? π€£π
PAP thinks it can “bluff small boy”. Oi, Ish-baby, how’s that working out for you? π€‘
Moral of the Story:
I attack your network, then you employ me to defend your network.
QED.
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Can only hope Karma delivers justice eventually
UG u early need to consult a doctor or Matilar for his dor re mi
Why is Singapore so rich?
Listen to the crap by CNBC !
ST survey suggests salary is not a main driver of job satisfaction among Singapore workers.
Then why are the ministers paid millions?
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Ong Teng Cheong MRT
Ong Teng Cheong Strike
Ong Teng Cheong Newspaper
Ong Teng Cheong Demonstration
Xia Si Ren, the clean and able government until 1999? From 1999 onwards TCB, TJS, TKL, TT vote who ah? Xia Si Ren.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ong_Teng_Cheong
http://eresources.nlb.gov.sg/newspapers/Digitised/Article/straitstimes19880512-1.2.27.4
Which leader I belong to ah? Who is going to find me a job? LTK? Dr Chee? LHL?
How ah White Skin Leaders?
Who want claim the Kia Su Kia Si award? Who want claim the Tam Sim award? Who want to claim the Boh Tua Boh Suay award?
If LHL find 4000 people go demonstration, China will still detain our Terrex a not ah? Wah seh, how Ong Teng Cheong find 4000 people? Last time Chiu Dian Wei phone book can store so many one meh? Or long ago he got Whatsapp already? Li hai leh this guy. No MRT can build MRT. No Whatsapp also can find 4000 people. This guy should not die ah. Huawei 5G, this guy later make Weihua 10G. Mai Sing Siao man. This guy is Xia Si Ren.
Other than that which other leader is Xia Si Ren? Got got got. LKY Iron Fist. LKY ISA. Xia Si Ren. 6 smoke bomb. Xia Si Ren.
Who say Ah Tiong is Tong Ya Bing Fu? Terrex detain leh. Who is the Tong Ya Bing Fu? Ang Moh Style? Opposite Ang Moh style? Banana Style? Belakang Keng Jio Style?
KAKAKAKAKAKAKAKAKAKAKAKAKA. I am getting confuse more and more.
Xi Jin Ping very kind. Detain terrex only. No war. Ah Tiong scoot millions away also very kind. Lucky never billion. Li Ning free education only. Heng. Lucky never request to eat XO noodles everyday. PAP PAP PAP. Eh wrong. Ah Tiong Ah Tiong Ah Tiong. Yah correct. Ah Tiong Ah Tiong Ah Tiong. No blame culture, it is okay, let move on. Ah Tiong Ah Tiong Ah Tiong.
No point Ang Moh Ang Moh Ang Moh. Fall sick in army ownself pay with Ang Moh alliance. Jobless. Dad sleep void deck. Ah Tiong Ah Tiong Ah Tiong.
https://www.theonlinecitizen.com/2019/01/16/malaysia-claiming-ils-disrupts-future-development-in-pasir-gudang-untrue-says-dr-vivian-balakrishnan/
https://www.asiasentinel.com/politics/singapore-on-indonesia-arrest-hartono-karjadi/
I go hospital need to check who I am one leh. Xia Si Ren. The receptionist never call up to the patient check who the visitor? Fake news? Xia Si Ren. How drugs come in ah? Xia Si Ren. I be police chief can? Xia Si Ren. Dont blame receptionist hor, ask the management ask Ong Teng Cheong what kind of special Chiu Dian Wei he use last time to tiao 4000 chui?
Mas Selamat window grille defect cannot see. Xia Si Ren. Own peasant check HDB defect become yim chim? Xia Si Ren. Police dont have this test that test make sure is alert observant, parents got feed good s26 nai nai until bak chiu kim kim, than can be police meh? Xia Si Ren.
Little India Riot. Xia Si Ren. And the rioters is it those really want to fight one, prepare all kind of weapons or explosive one? Xia Si Ren.
No one help my mum, my mum ownself help herself solve her own issue, almost go jail. Xia Si Ren.
So like to KPO, I go LHL MPS, still jobless leh. Did I serve army to protect Ang Moh alliance country and all the leaders that wear white in this country? Xia Si Ren.
Next time just ask pay high one to go thru serious army training. Pay so low so serious training got free hospital? Xia Si Ren.
Ah Tiong Ah Tiong Ah Tiong.
When you have a screw loose running loose, what is the result?
7.19am well when you have a screw running loose, the result can be seen in UG Lor. That guy posts like 2 to 3 am in the morning posting nonsense of course. He should consult Doctors at IMH or go to Jalan Besar to be sodomized to cure himselfπ
"When you have a screw loose running loose, what is the result?"
The result is incoherent thinking and confused speech, e.g:
"We know who the hacker is but we cannot reveal his/its identuty for national security reason."
"We already found out who hacked into SingHealth and stolen 1,500,000 persinal data but we will get to the bottom of the matter."
"We are not hiding anything but we must hide the identity of the hacker."
'We will get to the bottpm of the matter'.
Does it mean the Authority shall have the Offender prosecuted and punished according to the Rule Of Law ?
If they can't tell the people who he is, how to prosecute?
If can't prosecute, then how?
Ya, don't tell means no need to sue or prosecute. After all there are so many important cases for the courts to handle. Where got time to pursue this not important matter?
Is it case closed?
lswaran declared that they are going all the way to the bottom of the matter. As a minister, he cannot be patronizing and or fooling the people.
Trust him to be a minister with sincerity and integrity.
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