3/11/2013

Managing faked or unrecognised degrees


I can only hope and pray that this problem plaguing the country and disadvantaging Singaporean PMETs is a small one that doesn’t need much bother from the Govt. If in reality it is an iceberg waiting to sink the Singapore Titantic, woe will befall the citizens of this island when the ship and the iceberg collide.

Tan Chuan Jin and his Tafep are trying to do something about it. Just wondering how serious is this call or would it just be a passing remark to be forgotten the next morning? The implications of foreign PMETs replacing local PMETs are serious, wide ranging and unacceptable, from stealing the jobs from the locals, discrimination of locals, cheating and victimising the locals, depriving the local PMETs from acquiring skills and experience, and the larger implications are social unrest when locals are out of jobs, unable to feed themselves and families and servicing heavy housing mortgages. Worst case scenario, it is like an invasion of foreigners that will become PRs and citizens to oust the true blue citizens from eking a low down existence in their own country. The natives will find it hard to live in this expensive place without a job while foreigners are taking their jobs and living happily here at the local’s expense. How can this be?

The humiliating part is for the fake talents or half baked talents to think that they can screw the better local talents, screw their jobs, boss around with them and kick them around, with unrecognised degrees, no degrees or fake papers. It is amazing that a first world sophisticated city can fall victim to third world swindlers and con men and women, and very happy going about it without a care.

While the problem has surface and the Govt looking like looking into it, there are two aspects that need to be addressed immediately. One is the number of foreign PMETs that can be employed in any company or institution. A quota like those for foreign workers will be more palatable to the citizens that have lost their jobs to these PMETs, and their children will eventually also be victims to the scam that can be treason in nature.

The second part is to eradicate faked or half past six degrees from God knows where. This is a mammoth task that requires a big number in manpower to investigate. The MOM is unlikely to be able to deal with it even with the recruitment of a few battalions of officers. It may take more than 500 man years to cleanse this shit hole. What could be an alternative is to get these foreigners to have their qualifications certified and guaranteed by institutions, preferably foreign banks or financial institutions or their employers, that can be fined when the qualifications were found to be faked. Don’t ask a local institution to be the guarantor as it would end up paying for the frauds of foreigners. Such institutions could turn this into another business and would have the spread of manpower and expertise to do the job without the Govt carrying the burden and cost to police the fake degrees.

The Govt could conduct spot checks in a more targeted manner and get the guarantors to pay for the slips. This part is crucial or else the whole scheme could be another bigger scam. Bounty hunters can be hire to check on such violations which will be quite effective too. There are obvious problems as the guarantors will have to be reliable and be able and willing to do the due diligence and be able to pay the fines and repatriation costs.

A guarantor system is not the only way to tackle this shit situation and there must be many better and more efficient ideas that the talents in the MOM could come up with. The important part is to kill this problem fast for the sake of Singaporeans and the country.

19 comments:

Anonymous said...

Under the singapore education system, we put our kids through very tough childhood or no childhood get a NUS degree thar ranked under 30 in global ranking and spending hundred of thousand dollars. Only to find that the starting pay is now lower than taxi driver and lose out in competition for job to any degree holders from god no where universities

Anonymous said...

I am definitely very angry and this government will never get my vote. It is very sad that from a very strong pap supporter I have become a very strong opposition supporter. Knn

oldhorse42 said...

When the people gets very smart like getting educated in our world class universities,they become a threat to PAP;s rule. Smart and educated people can see through the scams perpetuated in PAP rule and will vote out the party sooner and later. So it is safer to replace sinkie with imported talents, faked degrees not withstanding with their population replacement strategy. It works against pap's interest to root out the faked talents who afterall will be smart enough to vote wisely to ensure their own propserity.

Anonymous said...

I am surprised that Tan CC and his clowns are only doing something now when the problem has been around for years. Losing a GRC and a couple of seats does wonders. They need spurs in their hide.

Veritas said...

Our failure in employment market went beyond fake degree. What we need to solve is the chronic and toxic office politics stem from the self-preservation of managers.

I work as an engineer in many country. I am sad to say, Singaporean managers are the most unreasonable. I use to have certain managerial responsibility. I have led small team. Then I rub shoulders with upper management. Only due these informal moments, you get a glimpse of how managers really think and play. All these are kept big secret to executive until the day, they themselves become managers.

The fake degree problem is an iceberg manifestation of our corrupt working culture. Generally a fake degree holder would under perform compared to graduates from our world class university. And fake degree holder would get fired immediately for unperformance.

That however, is not happening in Singapore. Singaporeans get fired.

One reason is pervasive racism in Singapore, whereby FT managers would prefer their own tribesman no matter how fuck up they are.

For Singaporean managers, there is another reason why they prefer fake degree holders than good and honest Singaporeans. In Singapore, the managers salary are too high. The high salary bring the managers too much dignity, respect and power. Singaporeans managers are over leverage in over buying property in car. They cannot loose their jobs.

Unlike western country, Singaporean managers advance not based on meritocracy, but because someone like them.

Many Singaporeans do not know managers can hate them if they work too hard, and over perform. In workplace, you always seen honest and hardworking Singaporeans teaching FT, because of their incompetency. But mysteriously, managers hate Singaporeans and prefer useless FT.

In the end, Singaporeans got kick out, not the useless FT.

In Singapore, the managers salary is 3 times more than the executive. In all USA hi tech companies, managers is only 20% higher. NWC is the culprit.

Our managerial class has let us down. PAP letting in FT is only part of the equation. If we have a managerial class that thinks about our children, it cannot be so bad.

Anonymous said...

You'll be surprised how quickly problems can be solved.
If we continue to vote in more Opposition politicians into parliament.

Anonymous said...

Daft Sinkies always think they are better than aliens and yet they lose out to them(foreigners).
And the so called local better educated in reputable local varsities are conned by fake degree holders from abroad.
My toes are laughing and my nails are giggling.

Anonymous said...

We have another stat board called Council for Private Education, which is just another bureaucratic organisation so out of touch with changing landscape of higher education. Getting a programme registered to be offered in Singapore takes bloody 6-7 months. The whole organisation is a bloody joke and they audit private schools but cannot even get their own act together

Ⓜatilah $ingapura⚠️ said...

Please lah redbean, the world doesn't owe anyone a living -- that includes a job. Every job in the world faces global competition, and sometimes the globalisation comes into your own backyard.

I agree, clean up the fake degree shit. I will tell you it won't make much of a difference. Take a completely ridiculous scenario, for example: Let's say they catch 1000 people (foreign) with fraudulent qualifications -- a huge number. Imagine 1000 people managed, somehow to slip through a system with checks and suspicious human watchdogs.

So you fire 1000 fraudsters, maybe charge them in court...so what? That won't even make a DENT in the trend of hiring foreigners. Say you give the jobs to locals. Fucking hurrah. Now 1000 locals have jobs. Big deal.

What will happen is MoM will just tighten up the standards and beef up their checking system.

If you think they'll shelve the idea of hiring foreign labour, then you're engaging in wishful thinking.

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

Matilah, when you know there is a problem, a serious one, it cannot be ignored.

How could sophisticated, worldly wise and supertalented people be made into idiots and a laughing stock by third world kampong kids with questionable or no qualifications?

What is more worrying is a new kind of colonisation willed by our own leaders for lesser beans to take over our country.

KNN this is not joking matter. This affects the viability of the people and country.

Anonymous said...

Haha.

Cosmopolitan folks outsmart by country bumpkins?
Hard to believe the argument lah.
MS is a pragmatist that needs no ideal, he lives well and enjoy his life. You die it's your bizness, he got nothing to do with others. All he needs is some gluey holes around.

Ⓜatilah $ingapura⚠️ said...

redbean:

Whatever the case is, the best thing people can do is not to play to their "victim" emotions -- this is very bad for one's mental health.

Having lived in Oz for awhile now, I am no stranger to losing a job or having the door slammed in my face and told to "fuck off" by an English racist. To make matters worse, in that instance I was broke and feeling fucked up... I really needed that job. Fortunately, my thick skin saved my sanity. Within a month I landed 3 casual positions and in a good month with overtime and bonuses, earned more than my father who was at the time head of HR in a large financial institution.

What I'm saying is, you cannot give up, and curse the government into solving your economic problems. You have to DO SOMETHING, and keep on doing until you get something to sustain you in the meantime.

I notice many Singaporeans are not used to taking hard knocks from the University Of Life -- the best place to get REAL WORLD qualifications. So you lost your job... so what? So you think you are being discriminated against...so what? So you think people are laughing at you...so what? How small minded are those people anyway? Do you really want "respect" from those shit heads? Please lah.

Never let your emotions get the better of you, to the point where it affects your outlook and your good judgement ... nothing good ever happens when you allow that to occur.

Hard cold fact of reality: Foreign workers are going to keep coming in. Accept it. Sure, fuck the government...then get on with it.

The clock's ticking. Everyone gets older. One day no work, means one day without income.

Anonymous said...

You may want to work and fuc till you die, however a well deserved retirement at 60 is a traditional and universal practice.
You do whatever You wish but prease do not teach others how to live, retire/enjoy and die.

Anonymous said...

Vote opposition to stop fake or lousy degree holders from replacing singaporeans.

SG Girl said...

Matilda

I agree with you. We have to be thick skin and persevere when the going gets tough. I'm still learning to accept the hard facts of life and trying hard not to let it consume me.

However I do agree with Chin Leng that we need to voice our concern when we, who'd been through years of education are unable to secure jobs which went to FTs whose academic qualifications are not as good as ours and the salaries they are getting here, no way they can get the same back home.

Ⓜatilah $ingapura⚠️ said...

@SG Girl

You should speak out on issues that concern you.

The problem is in cyberspace, the "discussions" never get past

1. Ad hominem attacks on the government

2. Conspiracy theories without the slightest shred of testable, positive evidence

3. The lack lustre, no-brainer idea of "vote opposition, everything will be OK.

So far, NO ONE (and I mean NO ONE) has managed a cogent, well-reasoned and fact-supported argument against the govt's policies. After about a paragraph or so, it degenerates into "he-say-she-say", and on with the name-calling, and well-poisoning, assigning blame etc etc....good for cock-talk, but totally INEFFECTIVE in the area of "viable solution".

You also forget one thing: the owners/ managers of enterprise are in business to make PROFITS, not perform works of charity. They have their job to do and require a FREE REIGN to HIRE AND FIRE whomever they think id "good enough" to work in their enterprises. This is called PROPERTY RIGHTS and under the banner of FREEDOM.

The fundamental function of the state is to protect freedom of peaceful individuals conducting their peaceful enterprises. Everyone is free to conduct lawful enterprise. It is a basic, natural right.

Anonymous said...

7.49 matilar is also an asshole mah

Ⓜatilah $ingapura⚠️ said...

@anon 749 & 547

You don't write the rules of the world. So go ahead and call me all the names you like...until it makes you happy :-))

I will come here and write whatever the fuck that pleases me, so the two of you can go blow each other for all I care.

Singapore is a cuntree. Every person in the collective noun "people" is an INDIVIDUAL.

Go and take some remedial English classes please, before you embarrass yourself even further.

Think of all the thousands of cocks your poor mum and dad has to suck to feed you and give you an education. You then write rubbish on the net -- man, oh man, you've let down your hardworking parents.

You are really ungrateful children. I think we'd better replace you with some hardworking and more grateful foreigners.

Now there's a solution :-)

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