7/22/2020

Is asking a question to clarify a perception spreading falsehood?

Dr Chee had asked the People’s Action Party’s Dr Vivian Balakrishnan if he could “categorically tell Singaporeans right now that your party has no intention of raising our population to 10 million by continuing to bring in foreigners, especially foreign PMETs, into Singapore to compete with our PMETs for jobs”.

Dr Balakrishnan responded by referring to a statement issued by the Prime Minister’s Office that day advising people not to indulge in falsehoods. He added: “Let me state for the record. We will never have 10 million. We won’t even have 6.9 million. The government doesn’t have a target for the population. What we want is a Singapore core that is demographically stable, able to reproduce ourselves, able to create opportunities and jobs for ourselves and able to stay as a cohesive whole. It is not a target and it’s certainly not 10 million and you are raising a false strawman. That is a false statement.”

The above is from www.theindependent.sg

Is asking the govt to confirm something spreading on the ground amounts to spreading falsehood? This kind of logic is what I called, contrived power logic. It is only logic when you have power behind the person using it. It would never be accepted as logic but swallowed grudgingly by the hapless.

Singaporeans have been forced to accept this kind of power logic far too often, like the 200m ruling when inside the polling centre is not within the 200m radius range. Go ask a primary school kid and he would instantly tell you it is wrong. Forcing our children to accept this as logical reasoning is making Singaporeans more stupid.

Anyone using this kind of power logic in the kopitiam would invite all kinds of vulgarities and even black eyes if one is too stubborn to insist on it.

What do you think, tiok boh? Asking to confirm yes or no is spreading falsehood? Not clarification?


30 comments:

Anonymous said...

Vivian was clearly
flustered by
Dr Chee's Question about the 10 Million Population Query.
That speaks volume.
Must say that it was just a very simple question.
But,
Vivian elaborated too much about it to give the Impression that he was too defensive for whatever reason.

Anonymous said...

The frustration is with the 61.24%. Another 5 years . . .

Anonymous said...

Hi good morning everyone.

No point Kpkbssssssssss!

61% still voted for them!

They are the government with 83 MPs!

What can you do now? Only LAN LAN!

Hahaha. ... 5 more years....

Cheers.

Anonymous said...

There is no target for 10 million but Hyflux was "advised" by somebolee in the Gabramen to plan for 8 million population.

Bala was talking through his nose. His motive was to demonize Dr Chee, using the same old tactic used by KY gel. That's why he appeared as defensive.

Anonymous said...

Saying this type of truth in kopitiam they said, 'kiam pah'.

Virgo 49 said...

HiFkux collapse partially caused by the Garmen or GarbageMen.

Poor Olive cannot open mouth to blame them as beholden to them.

Had it good in Sinkieland from Matland. Had made enough.

Only POOR sinkies kena second time Cobbled by their trust and partially by their investing greed.

Anonymous said...

And the local MSM especially the Chinese evening dailies reporting almost like another character assasination if one hadn't read the story. Both had it on front page with bold large headline PAP chastised Dr Chee for spreading falsehoods along with an unsavory pic of Dr Chee. Anybody taking a glance at that would have thought he had made another faux pas which wasn't so.

Anonymous said...

We need to speak up against state media monopoly, control n bias which UNFAIRLY favour the ruling party MPs the rest of the years in between polling days

The unusual short political campaigning period is also subject to much criticisms.

Anonymous said...

Tiok! Since it is still far away from the 10 million population mark, do we wait until it reaches 10 million before we choose another party? How much weight does Vivian carry with such an assurance? After all, he won't be around when the 10 million population becomes a reality.

Can we forget the old man's tantrum of doing it 'over my dead body' when the casino option was first discussed? What happened?

Of course the choice is in voter's hands.


Anonymous said...

Though it is premature to talk about review of the legislation governing the State media without a sufficient no of opposition MP to vote for the change.

Supporting ,pushing for gradual change to do away with political tools like state-controlled media n revamp organizations like PA which should be serving the nation based justice n equality should be our goals toward a Robust democracy !


Anonymous said...


Hahaha....

10m? Where got problem? 12m also no problem?

All buildings 100-storey high all take public transportation, roads convert to buildings, etc etc etc etc.....

So simple!...talk is Free!..... correct?

Hahaha.....

Anonymous said...

When you are in power, you can play with words, twist with words, say anything, you are always right.

The population can go up to 10m or more and they can turn around and tell you point blank they did not plan for it. It just happened.

What can you say?

Anonymous said...

Hahaha

Anon 12.16

You are so smart! What about living underground? The dead are slowly deprived of living underground and that area could be developed into underground cities for the extra millions coming in.

I think you are minister material. The PAP should snag you fast!

Anonymous said...


Anonymous 12.34pm.. what can you say?..... haha.. don't take life tooooooooo serious....we can only kpkbssssssssss and TCSSssssssss and only LAN-LAN for the next five years.... Hahahahahaha........

Anonymous said...


Hi 1245pm

Thank you very very much for seeing me so up up up!

If they snag Me to be their minister, I will support you as the pm!

Yamseng! Yamseng! Yamseng!

Anonymous said...

61% beholden slaves and well-trained kwai kwai dogs simply love their master's carrots and sticks to screw them again and again.

Anonymous said...

Anon 12.59

I am talking about PAP snagging you for PM lah! Send Buddha must send until he reaches heaven. Heng is still on probation, not a certainty. No one else can hold a candle to you.

One problem though. If I support you, I have to vote PAP. Sorry, my vote is out of bounds in Hougang lah!

Anon 12.45

Anonymous said...

Tell school children cannot anyhow ask question.

Tell WP cannot anyhow ask question.

Wait they say spread falsehood.

Anonymous said...

With 61% and 83 MPs Singaporeans will have to be prepared for another 5 years of plane loads of PMETs from India and China. These potential citizens will be the PAP voters for the next GE. So be prepared for the same old shit that will be dished out until the next GE when Singaporeans will be rewarded with a few sweeteners to buy their votes. Then the circle goes round again and again and again. Forever PAP !!! Don't like it? Get out, claim your CPF and go live in JB.

Anonymous said...

JB so bad meh? Must ask Virgo.

Anonymous said...

JB good lar e erytjing is cheap even Vietnam. Mei Mei is 1/3 price compared with sg so screw once here can screw 3 times there mah too bo

Anonymous said...

Actually living in JB is good if you work in Singapore. Everything is cheaper by a third.

Malaysians working here actually enjoy the best of both worlds, maybe some inconveniences. I can't pretend to know much about safety and security though.

Even Sinkies go over there to eat and shop. How can it be bad?

LOOP said...

COVID19 PANDEMIC - INFECTIONS AT SINGAPORE WORKERS' DORMITORIES NO END IN SIGHT

After 4 months, the situation of COVID-19 infections is still not under control inside Singapore’s foreign workers' dormitories.

As reported by the Health Authority, there are between 200 to 400 cases on the average every day. This is not acceptable. It is taking too long to weed out infections inside the workers' dormitories. This will definitely spill over to the community once the foreign workers are allowed to leave their dormitories.

What does this mean?

Probable Answers:

1. The relevent leaders are probably taking it too easily or they still have no clue how to deal with it efficiently and effectively.

2. The Ministry for Health does not have any concrete viable plan to stamp out COVID19 infections in the foreign workers' dormitories on an urgent basis.

3. The policy could be to allow as many of the foreign workers be infected by the COVID-19 disease so as to achieve "Herd Immunity" on a large scale. If this is so, then it is not only foolhardy but also cruel and ruthless.

Whatever the reasons for the lacklustre actions, in the mean time, the workers are still being exposed continuously to infection and re-infection again and again, and are living like prisoners.

Even though many people have been reported "recovered" or "released from hospitals", their lungs and other organs could probably have been damaged beyond repair for life!

We know that only our liver can heal itself, if not badly damaged. However, all our other organs once damaged cannot repair themselves.

The damaged organs may not function in full force again and may lead to secondary causes of death in the future, unknown to the health authories or the sufferers/victims.

Therefore, it is wise not to let ourselves be infected by the Covid-19 coronavirus at all costs. Take all the necessary precautions to ensure that you stay alive in full health happily.

Never allow ourselves to be used as Guinea Pigs by any ruthless, unethical, immoral or easy-way-out policy formulated by unwise and imperfect men - politicians and scientists alike. We do so at our own peril.

May all be well and happy!
May all enjoy good health and longevity.
May all have the will to see things as they are.
May all stay in perfect equanimity!


The LOOP - July 2020.

Anonymous said...

Why is it on a daily basis we are having quite a number of imported cases? eg just for today, there're 6 imported COVID-19 cases!

LOOP said...

Dear Bro @ 6:20pm,

Millionaires love to import things and sell. They also love to import people to do their bidding. And logically as a follow-up, they must have the unconscionable desire to import viruses too?

Does that answer your question?

Retribution Believer said...

Whitemen countries are now facing God's wrath for their past evil deeds against humanity.

Australia, always following in the footsteps of its Evil Godfather USA, is now heading towards another wave of COVID-19 infections.

Australia's second most populous state of Victoria reported on Wednesday (Jul 22) two new deaths from the COVID-19 coronavirus and broke a record of a daily increase of 484 new cases, compared with 374 cases yesterday.

The Victoria State also recorded its previous one-day high of 428 cases last week.

All residents of Melbourne has been ordered to wear face masks.

Anonymous said...

Texas reported 8,698 coronavirus hospitalizations on Monday, a record high rise in infections for the eighth consecutive day.

Virgo 49 said...

Hi Anon

Still prefer Melaka.

More cosy and cheaper than JB.
Also the folks there NOT so unscrupulous.

JB and KL slaughter kings.

Further North better still MORE cheep cheep.

But not Genting Highlands.

Unless you on a Roll and made a pile.

Cheers

Anonymous said...

Hi Virgo

Malacca is also largely Chinese, if I am not mistaken.

Yeah, southern JB is not that cheap compared to more northern part, but still much cheaper than Red Dot by comparison. Business people of course like Sinkies going over there, residents know Sinkies are pushing up their cost of living.

Anonymous said...

Trump wants to 'Make America Great Again'. God clearly knows what that means.

America Great again means more bullying, sanctions (which is the biggest human rights abusing tactic), bigger pile of nuclear weapons and keeping every other country poor so that they can continue to dominate. It also means no one must attempt to surpass the US by being No. 1. The USA cannot tolerate being No. 2, while China is afraid to be No. 1. That is according to Professor Joseph E. Stiglitz.

Now, God needs to let Trump accomplish his 'MAGA' and satisfy his big ego, so God created the virus. You see, in terms of infections and deaths, America is indeed 'Great Again' absolutely.