1/22/2019

Meng Wanzhou - National pride versus economic interest

The arrest of Meng Wanzhou has pitted China against the little country called Canada and its boy PM and girly FM. For the moment China is daily increasing pressure to squeeze these two naive twits to release Meng. The twits are stubbornly hanging on to their stupid position and risking the lives of Canadians being detained and arrested by China. For their childish pride and ego, they could not care about the lives of Canadians, one already sentenced to death, and Canadian business and economy. They just would not admit their stupidity.

Nearly two months have passed and China is still directing attacks at the silly boy and girl for acting as US's little doggies. In a way this is to hammer the unthinking boy and girl for acting silly. You want to fool around with China you will be caned and real hard.

The Americans have been off the Chinese radar so far though being the real devil. This would not be long. The Canadian ambassador in the US, David MacNaughton, has told the Canadian boy and girl that the US intend to extradite Meng before 30 Jan 19. When this is carried out, China would be forced to act against the US as well.

During this period, China has been actively negotiating a trade deal with the US to end the trade war. And the deal is almost done. What would China do if Meng is extradited to the USA to face life imprisonment? Would China close an eye and sacrifice Meng and go ahead with the trade deal? Doing so would seriously challenge the credibility of China in its ability to protect its own citizens from devious and illegal arrest by other countries, in this case the evil Empire. China as a big power would be watched by the whole world on how it prioritise trade and economic interest over national interest and national pride.

The whole Chinese population and Chinese around the world would also be watching if China would sacrifice its own citizens for money and be humiliated by the Americans once more. Another humiliation on China today would likely see the fall of Xi Jinping as the absolute ruler of modern China. Chinese pride and patriotism would not accept Xi to capitulate in this case. If China can forsake its own citizen, an important commercial top executive, it would be read as China would forsake all its citizens and those Chinese around the world. The new law to protect ethnic Chinese around the world would become a bluff. This is a tough call for Xi and to go ahead with the trade deal is NOT an option.

China and Xi cannot compromise Chinese pride and nationalism for economic gains, pride and nationalism cannot be exchanged for money, cannot be bought or traded.

Xi Jinping would be put to a severe test and his mental toughness as the leader of China and a world leader would either go up or go bust.  Xi cannot afford to be seen to be bullied by the Americans. It is time that China takes action against the Americans by arresting a few senior American executives for committing crimes or espionage against China to trade with Trump. Being meek and weak would only invite more bullying and humiliation.

PS. This is my contribution for 23 Jan 19.

35 comments:

Anonymous said...

Great post,clap clap clap. Only a small comment, the use of the prefix "boy" and "girly" is unnecessary and makes the article unprofessional, i.e. name-calling is quite childish.

Anonymous said...

Meng has been in detention and under ill treatments by the Canadian Courts judges, policemen and politicians for two months already. That is two months too long. This means Xi Jinping's measures and counter-measures have been very ineffective to bring Meng home, thereby allowing her to suffer tremendously under the Mafia's hands. This is UNACCEPTABLE!

If I were Meng's father, I would be extremely FURIOUS. Furious at the Chinese Ambassador in Canada for doing sweet FO to ensure the immediate release of Meng. Furious for Meng being treated like a war-time criminal. Furious at the Chinese Foreign Minister for being uneffective and not aggressive enough (behaving like an eunuch - no testicles). Furious at Xi Jinping for his half-hearted ineffective measures, an obvious sign of weakness in the face of a national crisis.

As long as Meng does not return home, every single day is one day too many. How can any conscious Emperor of China (Xi Jinping) allow his precious valuable PRINCESS be kidnapped for RANSOM and being detained for such a long time, and still can smoke peace-pipe and sleep peacefully?

Xi Jinping, whether you like it or not, has already sell out the Chinese PEOPLE through his Cowardice!

If it is Israel, Meng would have been rescued by the Israeli military long ago.

If it is USA, the CIA and Seal Team would have already extradicted Meng safely home.

Virgo49 said...

Chinese Confusion Great Virtue is "PATIENCE"

Big Troubles churn to Small Troubles and Small into NO troubles.

One Mountain is Taller than another Mountain. You can be strong but Others can be strongrd than you.

So, they will try to avoid confrontation unless they are been pushed to the wall and fight for survivals.

Just like the Aussie Chinese Uni professor said they tried to live peacefully in any country that they resided or immigrated to.

On their Minds and genes trying to make as much wealth as they could for a more comfortable life for self and the next generation.

Also, Prestige and Face as they associated thair Wealth as their social status and stations in life. Too much comparisons among themselves. No ethical traits is a lesser evils. Wealth is paramount.

Also, we are too diverse like loose sand as we have too many different speaking languages and each different caste tried to one upmanship one another. Afraid of each other more than other races.
Thinking that we own kind are fighting each other for survivals like in Old China.

We willingly to sabo and backstab our own kind for our benefits.
Killing and sue each other till your pants dropp in any disputes.

On top of that, many of us can be Traitous to our kind for fame,wealth and glory.

These traits made Others able to manipulate and driving wedges amongst us. For example, Taiwan against China and Hong Kongers been influenced too long by Britsh Rule are uncomfortable to thair Motherland.

For that matter, most Overseas Chinese including Sinkies. Save for China where they are been jelled to be patriotic for years been reminded of the sufferings and humilations that they had undergone.They had in their minds not to go that way again.

The Chinese trait of being Patience often been seen by tha Whites and Other races as meek,weak and ballless.

The Whites of America, Brits,Aussies are Aggresive Barbarians.Especially the Brits and Aussie who caused havoc round the Globe wherever they go and in their own countries.With the exception of the Swiss,Sweden and Other small Europe nations whose people are not so,lest the farking
Frenchies who are equally obnoxious, these barbarians had aggresive genes.

So, all these bastards including the Mats,Black Ants,Viets and Others seen Chinese, especially the Bananas weakness in not as ONE
took advantage in manipulating us.

Xi, for the General Good of the Whole International Community is trying not to stir up and have the World in Turmoil.

Chinamen knew what is real sufferings and hardships and wish not to go thru again.Whilst the Whites had itching backsides always looked for fights and troubles.

So, they thought Xi and the Chinese are Paper Tigers afraid of them. Chinese can let their own to suffer some sufferings for theit general community's sake.

So, Meng's detention and sufferings is no big deal to her as sacrifice for her Country.

But, if the Americans were to go overboard, Xi is ready to forego all that he is trying to do for the International Community Good and fight a Final Mother of All Battles.

If the Chinamen are ready to fight it will be an all out WAR to end
all their pent up sufferings and humiliations.

So. Dotard and Company please don't try to rouse the Seemly Paper Meek and Ballless China.

Cheers






Anonymous said...

Virgo I read your Long article but I disagreed with you and supported Rb viewpoint. Thinking like that u also need the dor re mi treatment lar😛

Anonymous said...

There is a huge difference between patience and weakness. It is easily deduced.

If you don't have to suffer personally, while others suffer for you, that is not patience. That is cowardly selfish behaviour.

As a leader, you let your people suffer because of your lack of wisdom, yet you try to claim virtue, that is not patience. That is called Irresponsibility.

Moreover, you practice patience because you know you will lose, not because of for the Good of the World. If you know you can win, the for practice patience?

So, please don't try to sell KOYOT!

Virgo49 said...

Please read my last three paras.

Cheers

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

China cannot deal with thugs and international gangsters as if they were civilised beans. This detention and persecution of an innocent lady is vicious and unacceptable and must be settled quickly.

All the useless protests against the gangsters and thugs are pointless and make the Chinese look so stupid and hapless.

The time has come to be tough and rough against these modern savages and speak in their own language ie use of force and might.

Anonymous said...

China must call off all trade negotiations immediately if it wants Meng to be set free. Trump is hoping for a trade deal to save his Presidency and needs this trade agreement to claim victory and success. Failure of a trade deal will put an end to Trump's presidency quest.

Titiana Ann Xavier said...

The deadline for extradition is 30th January. If Uncle Sam extradites Sabrina Meng, she can file a plea which may drag the case on for years. By then Trump is likely to be out of office. His popularity is dipping with each passing day as government shutdown enters the 32nd day.

A more severe backlash can be expected from China once Sabrina Meng is extradited. This time Americans will be detained. No trade deals will be made. China will fight a war of attrition. It will be a protracted one. Former Secretary of State, John Kerry has called on Trump to resign. Trump is leading Uncle Sam to disaster and all its vassal states will follow suit.

Anonymous said...

Stupid Chinese still negotiating with the US for a trade deal when the Americans are attacking Huawei, arresting Meng Wanzhou and pushing its allies to ban Huawei.

How stupid and useless can the Chinese be to beg for a trade deal when they are being attacked daily by the Americans?

This is so shameful.

Anonymous said...

Donald Trump wants to restructure China when his own US government is in a shutdown. Pathetic Americans !

Titiana Ann Xavier said...

The abduction of Sabrina Meng by Canada and her possible extradition by Uncle Sam are pathetic attempts to derail the Chinese Dream. They target Huawei and 5G. China will not be distracted and can easily overcome such obstacles using the carrot and big stick tactic. China has big big plans. Its trillion-dollar BRI is being labelled as the "Plan of the Century". It is 12 times more massive than the Marshal Plan.

While the wild wild west is preoccupied with expanding its empire, China is focused on creating wealth in Asia, Africa, Latin America and Europe. Uncle Sam is worried that its world dominance will soon be gone.

Anonymous said...

Trump already knows he got China by the balls. Meng Wanzhou is merely icing on the cake. Will be used as a pawn in the trade wars. By end of 2019, she will be free to return to China as part of trade deal. Trade war negotiations will stretch throughout most of this year.

Trade dependent cities like S'pore and HK will very likely go into technical recession, as well as tech-trade dependent countries like South Korea, Taiwan & maybe Japan. Large countries with large domestic markets may escape technical recession, but will still feel like recession -- heavy job losses, stagnant or reduced wages etc.

Anonymous said...

LHL was among the leaders JT called for support against China with regards to one of their citizens being sent to death for trafficking 220 kg of meth.

I wonder what kind of support LHL would have rendered that didn't look hypocritcal on him given that his own govt executes anyone caught with a fraction of that amount that would have presumed to be trafficking?

Anonymous said...

China should/must do something never expected by the Canadian Government. Detain one of the high ranking people's children as well as detain, expose and charge one of the Canadian judges for corruption.
This can be easily done.

southernglory1 said...

The Canadian drug trafficker who was arrested in China for trafficking 220 KG of Meth could possibly be a runner for CIA in its East Asia drug ring. CIA is the world's largest trader and trafficker of drugs, opium, heroin, cocaine and meths. CIA operates huge drug rings in Europe, Middle east, India, Burmese Golden Triangle, Vietnam, South East ASia, Australia. Central and South America. It transports most of its drugs in US military planes to escape detection as it has the backing of Pentagon.All roads and avenues of CIA drug trade and trafficking can eventually be traced to White House, Washington. It is no wonder that America condemns strongly President Duterte's war on drugs traffickers in the Philippines as the Philippines is a rich ground for CIA's operation.

All countries should be wary of the evil CIA operatives and not allow CIA's officials to roam the country freely. All CIA officials must be under the strictest surveillance and be arrested and imprisoned and to face the death penalty if the drugs they traffic is above 5GM.

Ultimately to save the world from drug problems CIA must be destroyed.

Southernglory1

Wednesday, 23rd January, 2019

Anonymous said...

Hey dude do you have proof? Can cite some evidence or not rather than just accuse here and there.

Legal Advice said...

SINGAPORE LAWS

Dangerous Drugs Act 1951;
Drugs (Prevention of Misuse) Act 1969
Status: Both still In force today.

Thresholds

Section 17 of the Misuse of Drugs Act lists the amount of controlled drugs beyond which, the person who carries them shall be presumed to possess them for the purpose of drug trafficking unless proven otherwise:

Controlled Drugs

Presumed trafficking:

Opium 100 grams
Morphine 3 grams
Heroin 2 grams
Cannabis 15 grams
Cannabis Mixture 30 grams
Cannabis Resin 15 grams
Cocaine 3 grams
Hashish 10 grams
Methamphetamine 25 grams.


Mandatory Death Penalty:

Opium 1,200 grams
Morphine 30 grams
Heroin) 15 grams
Cannabis 500 grams
Cannabis Mixture 500 grams
Cannabis Resin 100 grams
Cocaine 30 grams
Hashish 200 grams
Methamphetamine 250 grams.

10 grams of any or any combination of the following:

N, α-dimethyl-3,4-(methylenedioxy)phenethylamine (MDMA)

α-methyl-3,4-(methylenedioxy)phenethylamine (MDA)

N-ethyl-α-methyl-3,4-(methylenedioxy)phenethylamine (MDEA)

The possession, consumption, manufacturing, import, export, or trafficking of these and other controlled drugs in any amount are illegal.

Persons caught with less than the Mandatory Death Penalty amounts of these controlled substances face penalties ranging from caning (up to 24 strokes) to life in prison.

Pursuant to a law change in 2009, cannabis (marijuana) and marijuana mixtures (diluted with other substances) are treated the same under Singapore law — the presumed intent is trafficking.

Clemancy for mandatory death sentence of drug traffickers submitted to the President of the Republic of Singapore have repeatedly failed to be pardoned nor commuted, except one recent case (of likely mistrial due to new evidence/submission by defence lawyers?).

Anonymous said...

Does Trump really believe Xi is so stupid to sign a trade deal while Meng is extradited to the US to face imprisonment?

Anonymous said...

Part of the deal.

Anonymous said...

USA likely with signed a deal with China extracting as much terms n conditions as possible. Massive imports by China within certain timeframe n by certain amount. And every 6 mths will harness China over it. It will be much worse than USA trade pressure on Japan in the 80s n 90s. And in the meantime it will play dirty n obstruct, ban, sabotage key China High tech firms like Huawei, etc in the markets n that of the allies or cronies. Politically it will stir more conflicts in Taiwan Strait, Tibet, etc.

Its going to be tough on China n generally Chinese people everywhere.

Anonymous said...

re: 3:23pm

You will eventually find out the truth of what Southernglory1 said and you will have to paste the word 'dude ' on your back.

It is either you are totally ignorant of all the terrible evils that CIA has been doing and causing untold damages and sufferings to almost all third world countries through the operation of their insidious doctrines of profiting from weak countries to induce them to become debtors to American hegemony and total control. Please read the history of how through sabotaged and subterfuge and through wide extensive drug operations that CIA was able to let USA find an excuse to attack and conquer Mexico, Panama, El Salvador, Honduras, Hawaii and Cuba and a few other Latin American countries like Chile and Venezuella.

Just go into Google and type in "CIA Drug and Narcotic Trafficking Worldwide" and you will get all the truth and evidence you want. Alternatively you can the truth and evidence in Wikileaks. Having found the truth and evidence about CIA all you need to do as an honourable person is to apologise to Southernglory1 in this same blog.
otherwise you will open youself to criticism as an ignorant inbecile dude or a willing and paid agent and running dog of the Evil Empire.

If you are so stupid and ignorant of world affairs you should not come into this blog to expose your hare brain and utter ignorance.

Anti ignorant fools like you

Anonymous said...

My advice to China President Xi Jinping is that as the US is adamant in extraditing Meng to the US, China should just cancel the trade negotiations and plunge the whole world into recession.

Want to die all die together !!

Anonymous said...

China’s Rocket Force Conducts Mock ICBM Strike Exercise, Likely Targeting USA

The People's Liberation Army (PLA) Rocket Force conducted a simulated intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) strike mission from an underground bunker against an imaginary enemy (likely USA), the country's national television reported Monday.

Anonymous said...

All the US Presidents, in one way or another, have/had been crooks or accessory to crooks.

The CIA has been and still is the biggest (humongous) crooks in this entire world since its inception.

To extend the reach of the Evil US Empire into every corner of the globe, the US Presidents and successive Governments make/made use of the CIA to commit all sorts of unthinkable horrendous crimes against humanity. Regime change is only one of the numerous international crimes that the CIA has carried out together with the US military, both overtly and covertly.

Those who are still ignorant or pretend to be ignorant about what the CIA is capable of and why the Evil US Empire is EVIL, must be staying in the Stone Age, not the Age of Cyberspace and the Internet. You can continue to be ignorant and ask for proofs where there are tons of evidence out there for you to search, dig and research. Or you can start to enlighten yourselves and your fellow friends and relatives by helping yourselves to all the readily available facts and information out there in the Cyberspace. You can also continue as a daft Sinkie whose stupidity has no cure!

Regards and best wishes for your enlightenment, whoever and whatever you are.


Anonymous said...

Be prepared for WAR.
There is no other way out.
The situation today is similar to the situations before the 1ST and the 2ND World War.

Small countries like Singapore, that have become stooges of the White Supremacists and Evil Empire, and allowed their lands to become US Military Bases encircling and intimidating other countries, must be prepared for your own destruction.

You knew it coming, yet you have deliberately go against your own national interests to side with your Enemy. You are therefore traitors of your own conscience, countries and comrades.

You deserve whatever is coming!

Anonymous said...

7.06 and 7.18 pm anon. Why need to be so abusive to others who share different opinion. The way you posted is like u know all. I think all u need to know is both of you should be sodomized so that u won't be so arrogant.😀

Anonymous said...

NEW YORK, 22 Jan 2019 (Xinhua)

China's continuous efforts to deepen reforms should be the best strategy while aiming for sustained growth amid the gloomy global growth outlook, a renowned U.S. economist has said.

Stephen Roach, senior fellow at Yale University's Jackson Institute for Global Affairs, told Xinhua via an email interview on Monday that personal income growth underpinned by employment and wage earnings, corporate profits as the key determinant of business investment, and the state of global economic activity as the key determinant of external demand and exports are among the important metrics to gauge the growth momentum of an economy.

"From the standpoints of these factors, resilient employment and wages are encouraging, as are ongoing stability in corporate earnings; however, the greatest source of potential weakness for China is concentrated in the emerging deterioration in global demand," said Roach, who is also the former chairman of Morgan Stanley Asia.

"For China, the best strategy has long been centered on reforms. It will be important to avoid backtracking on existing reforms and repeating the mistakes of others," he added.

The longtime China watcher noted that China's ongoing efforts at deleveraging, excess-capacity shedding, market-oriented state-owned enterprise reforms and China's recent move to widen market access for foreign investment are in the right direction in fostering a more competitive economy.

The world's second-largest economy grew by 6.6 percent year-on-year to reach 90.0309 trillion yuan (about 13.28 trillion U.S. dollars) in 2018, data from the National Bureau of Statistics (NBS) showed Monday.

Commenting on China's economic performance in 2018, the ex-Morgan Stanley senior executive stressed that it would be important to look behind the headline gross domestic product (GDP) report and examine carefully the components of the gain -- especially the split between tertiary and secondary activity in order to assess China's ongoing progress in structural rebalancing.

"I remain fundamentally optimistic on China's economic prospects," said Roach, adding that his optimism will be vindicated as the country is pressing ahead with further reforms by seizing the key moment.

The NBS's data also showed consumption played an increasingly bigger role in the economy, contributing 76.2 percent of GDP growth, up significantly 18.6 percentage points from a year ago, and from the perspective of industrial structure, the tertiary industry accounted for 52.2 percent of the total.

Like many other economists, Roach also highlighted China's significant role in maintaining world economic stability.

"China accounted for approximately 30 percent of the cumulative growth in world GDP since 2010; absent this support, there is a very good chance that the world would have lapsed back into renewed global recession in the aftermath of the financial crisis," he said.

UG said...

https://geology.com/world/world-map.shtml

Wah seh. Anyone can see Singapore? We so near China, should alliance with China. China should leave Taiwan and Hong Kong alone. But Taiwan and Hong Kong so near China, also alliance with China. Taiwan is hokkien. Hong Kong is cantonese. Make Singapore teochew. All 3 alliance with China. Taiwan a lot of computer stuff brand. Hong Kong got port. Singapore got port. Ho Seh Liao. 3 Dragon of Asia. Japan and Korea also near China leh. All alliance with China and Russia. Woo Hoo. Dunno how many dragon of asia. Plus north korea missle. Yippie. I can no need go reservist. Than we got a lot of hand phone brand and camera brand to use. United state left apple hand phone brand?

Wah seh. United States why got 2 ah? Should give the other one to Canada leh. Than Canada should build wall. Create more jobs. Woo hoo.

And why got united state and vietnam war? So free ah? And so far away? Who is the one eat too free ah?

Than united state should build large HDB unit like Singapore last time on disaster free area. All live nearby like Singapore. Build army camp and farm area far away and accessible by bullet train. Ask Singapore and China invest in your country. Woo hoo. Like buy F-35 like that.

So what is the problem here ah world leaders?

United Kingdom should alliance with China also, it is on this plot of land and my o level is Cambridge. If world leaders Geography fail, come find me, I recommend you my Geography teacher. KAKAKAKAKAKAKAKAKAKAKAKA.

Wah seh. The right side of land look bigger ah? Right is always right? Left how? Like this blog say, evil empire? We should buy China fighter plane, later inside the instructions is chinese, dunno how to read, nvm, the eject button should look universal like emergency button right? Just press it. Made in China cheaper, can crash a few more. KAKAKAKAKAKKAKAKAKAKAKA.

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

If you were to ask that Dude about the CIA he would say, never heard of.

Maybe he will say oh it is the Criminal Infested Agency, nothing to do with the USA.

Anonymous said...

USA successfully conducted regime change in Venezuela.

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

The boy PM and girly FM claimed that China's arrest of two Canadians on espionage charges is arbitrary but their arrest of an innocent Chinese lady is according to the rule of law.

How silly and childish can they be?

Anonymous said...

Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro announced on Wednesday that the country has cut off diplomatic relations with the United States, giving American diplomats 72 hours to leave the country.

The United States has rejected Maduro's move to break diplomatic ties, saying it did not think he had the authority to cut ties and it would conduct relations with a government led by opposition leader Juan Guaido.

Earlier that day, US President Donald Trump said that the United States had recognized Guaido as the Venezuela's "interim president," a move that came after Maduro was inaugurated as president of the Latin American country earlier this month.

Anonymous said...

Even Canadian Ambassador to China John McCallum says Meng Wanzhou has good arguments to fight extradition to the US !

McCallum made three points Tuesday that he said are good arguments against her extradition to US.

"One, political involvement by comments from Donald Trump in her case. Two, there's an extraterritorial aspect to her case. And three, there's the issue of Iran sanctions which are involved in her case, and Canada does not sign on to these Iran sanctions," McCallum said.

Gary Botting, a Vancouver lawyer who specializes in extradition cases, agreed with McCallum's overview. He said that on his first point, regarding the US president, Trump has politicized the process.

"Trump has implied that the US can use her as a bargaining chip — and that is precisely what the treaty says is an exception to the extradition process," Botting said. "A person will not be extradited if it is for a political purpose or if the person is deemed to be part of that political purpose."

The most important part of Meng's defence in her extradition case is whether her actions in the US would also be considered criminal conduct in Canada, known as the "principle of double criminality."

McCallum suggested that Meng's case may not meet that principle, as she is being accused of violating US sanctions against Iran that Canada did not sign on to.

b said...

Uncle Sam and Sino are both own by GSucks one lah. GSucks love wars, always made big money by financing both sides of wars. This is exactly what they want people to believe. THey disney all these dramas for the last few centuries - divide and profit.