Read in YahooNews that a former ST editor by the name of Alan John is calling the people to take a stand for secularism when religious people use religion to impose their values on the secular. He posted an article in in face book and reported in coconuts.com titled, Former ST editor highlights the importance of standing up for secularism in the face of religious pressure.
This debate arising from the movement calling for the abolition of an 'outdated' law that forbids sex between men is seeing people taking sides for and against the law. Many prominent and eminent and influential elite and natural aristocrats have joint forces with the anti S377A law, calling for its abolition. The religious groups are also up in arms against this threat to the natural order of things, the natural order of creation. With the growing presence of LGBTs, the old natural order of things is looking like unnatural and the new natural order of things is like everything LGBT. So what is the natural order of things?
At the moment the majority is belongs to the old natural order of things. What if the LGBTs become a majority and the new natural order of things? We do not really know how big is the LGBTs as many are still hiding in the closets, many shy to own up to their sexual inclinations and preference, the number could be very large.
While the debate is going on and with stranger and stranger people, once thought of as the old natural order of things, speaking for the new natural order of things, one begins to question where are these people coming from? What is their agenda and who they really are?
Perhaps it is proper for the two camps to come clean and reveal their sexual preference or religious background before making a stand. In this way we will know why are these people taking the stand they chose to and not because of hidden motive or agenda. Ya, please come clean and be transparent. These two words are the key principles of Singaporean affairs. Anyone not coming clean is as guilty and sinister as the devil. When one fears coming clean, it means one is hiding something.
Let the debate continues with everyone declaring upfront who and what they are. I can understand the points raised between a sin and a crime, one a religious norm of what is acceptable and what is not, the other a legal position, a law to forbid a certain act. There are times when the two coincide and there are times when the two differ, sometimes by a lot, sometimes a little.
What do you think? Are the neutral, central, non partisan, hetero bias also taking sides, or those taking sides are actually not the neutral, central but partisan and homo bias, with vested interests in saying what they are saying?
PS. It is understandable that those born with such biological traits would behave or prefer to have their own ways or life style. But there are many that are born straight but unthinking or thinking that it is fashionable, after a few intakes of drugs, to think that this is the in thing to go for, the new natural order of things.
28 comments:
Schools primary ones n twos no more exams n rankings, sex between men ok, ministers getting millions in salaries, etc etc - what has become of Singapore !!???? On a rapid downward spiral in morality to become like the ancient sin city of SODOM !
Probably the answer of this 377A saga is akin to Chicken & Egg issue ( 1st got Egg then Chicken or vice versa). There will be no end to that answer. Jus like the Chinese TAO Ying & Yang or Yang & Ying, they r complimentary forces. However, when one force is tipped to the other one, it becomes a problem or even unbalanced. Perhaps the Garmen of te day r worried when the LGBT groups get larger & becomes a life style issue affecting productivity & human race decline. Therefore, its better to let it evolve naturally. Perhaps in future its isn't an issue as humans becomes cyborg or aliens in another planet, let this mother earth rot to whatever it is.
Is there any religion that says sex with the same sex is ok?
Is there any culture or civilisation that says sex with the same sex is ok?
Sure there are. But what kind of moral values are they saying is ok?
President calling prostitutes is ok? Judges engaged in sexual assault is ok?
No guilt, no same, the new normal? A new way of life?
Philippine President Duterte says Singapore is a fortress.
He's wrong.
Singapore is fast becoming a gay brothel !
377A is not appropriate for the the 21st century. Should be abolished. Most Singaporeans are still backward.
Having same sex sex is progress. Singaporeans are backward. Not keeping up with the new trend.
377A needs to stay to protect the innocent, young boys and girls who can be easily conned by hardcore sex perverts.
377A is appropriate AT ALL TIMES, no matter what century, 21st or 2100th, of human existence. It is forward-looking, a necessary precaution against would be sex-terrorists. Lift this LAW and All Hell Will Break Loose. It's like releasing the Hell-Beings into the Human Realm.
A simple statement that "Singaporeans are still backwards" is a matter of narrow miopic personal perception. It cannot be used to justify anything, let alone to abolush a necessary law that prevents crimes against the innocent young ones.
Children are our future. They are our bedrock for a safe, secure and peaceful environment and well-being. This fundamental fact must not be ignored and brushed aside just to satisfy the ego and sexual pleasures of a tiny portion of the population (perhaps less than 0.1% out of 6,000,000?)
The fact that some people are trying very hard to get rid of Section 377A means it is an effective and deterent law that MUST stay in force for as long as there are YOUNG CHILDREN TO BE PROTECT, irrespective of secular or religious arguments, for or against.
@ fans of assfuckery and cocksuckery:
Before arriving at your 5-sen 10-sen opinion, it'll serve you well to get well acquainted with this anachronistic law .
IMO, any law which only has religious DOGMA as its strongest argument to back it up, completely DENYING the science-based arguments, has no place in the law-code of an intelligent, developed, 1st world cuntry. And the cold, hard reality is that: this law, or any law based on PROHIBITION of peaceful voluntary and consensual action/ activity is bound to FAIL.
It is also interesting to note that Section 377A of the Penal Code is solely directed at male-on-male action. Apparently our lesbian sistahs get a pass. They can fuck and suck each other to kingdom cum, enjoying a rollicking orgasmic exchange of bodily fluids without fear of being caught and having to explain themselves in open court.
Here's the reality: The idea that the one-and-only PAP will repeal Section 377A is out of the question. They won't. Get used to it.
There are NO MORE ARGUMENTS to be made on the issue. Both the "for" and "against" cases have been using the same-o same-o points since...forever. Nothing new here. All the information has already been "priced in the market". Whether 337A goes or stays on the law-books is down to a wave of the magical legislative wand, and a stroke of the executive pen.
Those of you who are still not "woke" on how things function in Singapore, need to smash their bobble heads on a hard concrete pavement or hit it with a heavy blunt object: you just don't GET IT. In Singapore, the PAP government doesn't just have "the final say", they have THE ONE AND ONLY SAY...all you can do it take it or leave it. No matter how robust you think your arguments might be, they are IRRELEVANT to the machinations of government policy.
To the law-keepers: If you dumb motherfuckers think that a silly, outdated law is going to stop homo and bi-sexual men from merrily fucking, sucking and fisting each other, playing rusty trombones and felching...and all other manner of jolly good old poofter fun...you also need to smash your heads to pulp, because you are FOOLING YOURSELVES. Singapore's homos will continue doing what homos do. They don't give a flying fuck about your stupid religiously dogmatic law, so IN REALITY it doesn't matter if 377A stays...the homos will keep on FUCKING, scoffing at you and your unrealistic and unenforceable law. (aka scofflaw 👏🏻👍🏻)
Section 377A stays. And there is nothing you or anyone (except the Legislature and the Executive Branches) can do anything to change that FACT. Remember, the things that occur in Singapore by the force of government FIAT, do not have to comport with rationality, logic or reason . If you refuse to accept that, then you are the one being irrational, illogical and devoid of reason. 🤓
Get used to it, ZOMBIES 🤣😂
HIV/Aids: China reports 14% surge in new cases - BBC News
Even conservative china has 14% surge. If sg repels 377a, this disease will surge like crazy here. Better play safe than sorry.
Rb, the act against nature is not just religious thing. I am a free thinker but I am also against order against nature.😰
@ b 1155:
Let's just for the sake of your argument, dismiss the FACT that HIV/ AIDS ceased from being a "gay only" disease (formerly known as Arse Injected Death Sickness 🤣 ). And lets just also say that the 14% "surge" is a result of social activity, not a result of better (or flawed) measurement and methods of DETECTION. Yeah, lets also cancel the FACT that the spread of HIV/ AIDS in China is primarily due to prostitution and the use of intravenous drugs more than it is to male homosexual activity. (not a gay-only disease any more...for a long time already).
OK, now that I've completely ignored the facts, I can get on board and agree with you 😛
>> If sg repels 377a, this disease will surge like crazy here. <<
But wouldn't that work out for the better? Think about it: homos fucking and sucking their way to EXTINCTION. More homos, 🌈 More AIDS, Less homos! ⚰️ You should be pleased! 😂 Finally, we get to reduce the size of the population!!
@ 1220---revenge of the homo raping zombies
>> what if gay males go aggressively after unwilling non-gay males ? <<
I just love this idea. It is so adorable.
Let's assume the army camps are filled with horny gay soldiers. Why would these Arsehole Bandits hunt down and rape unwilling straight guys when they can just bang each other? 🧐 Surely that would make more sense? 🤔 Unless....they gay guys are having a CONTEST...who can rape more straight guys wins!
Yup, sounds plausible to me. 🤮
>> Will army camps still be safe for our NSFs ? <<
Of course not. Therefore abolish NS! 🤟🏽
Yup, also plausible 😜
If NS is abolished because of raping gay men, that would compromise the National Security of our tiny island. Mahathir will turn of the water...and then we'd all be fucked up the arse. 🤣😂
The Chinese HK Charles Kao ( godfather of fibre optics comms / broadband) who had Nobel prize in Physics in 2009 has passed away in 23rd September 2018
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_K._Kao
In this tiny red dot island city produce nothing or noboli can even get a Nobel Prize despite its advances in Science & Technology. What it produces r the many Out of this world Millionares Minionsters & his liow be Minions Puppets & Walaueh Goons..
@ms 121pm - More homos, 🌈 More AIDS, Less homos! ⚰️ You should be pleased! 😂 Finally, we get to reduce the size of the population!!
Alamak. I am not so black heart one. I hope everyone can have happy and healthy life with lots of love, laughters and freedom. Why go for the difficult way to be different or homo and get disease? Simplicity is better.
Asked him about the power breaksdown and this Arse Doctor will kept rumbling and made comparisons to other countries power breaksdown.
Then he will concluded we are the BEST in the world.
I had one interesting video of four screensshots of the merry Gay Men hugging and missing one another.
Four different continents. Wah some so handsome and body building tone bodies.
Matilah sure loves them.
Don't know how to copy and post.
Lee Kuan Yew's grandson admits he is gay
https://www.msn.com/en-sg/news/national/lee-kuan-yews-grandson-admits-he-is-gay/ar-BBKYj1L
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Photo of Lee Kuan Yew’s gay grandson at Pink Dot draws mixed reactions online
http://theindependent.sg/photo-of-lee-kuan-yews-gay-grandson-at-pink-dot-draws-mixed-reactions-online/
No wonder this elites' tilt towards abolishing S377A.
How many more still hiding in the closets?
@ closet-hunter 704
>> How many more still hiding in the closets? <<
There are many "gender fluid" folks in the govt...especially (from my unscientific observations) working at the Stat Boards. And you are mistaken: they do not hide. Everyone knows each other's sexual orientation, and no one cares.
Even religions are painfully their attitudes because of the record number of people leaving their faiths. Openly gay Christians banging openly gay Muslims? 😜
At last, World Peace. Pass the KY. 🤡
Knn what has sg becoming? I think Rb suggestion is good that for those who speak for or against, they must declare their sexual orientation so that we know where he is coming from. I must say that the act against the order of nature is really very disgusting. There are so many pretty girls with nice pussies, why go after the ass?if u ever watch the gay porn for 10 seconds, u would want to switch off cause it's really very disgusting leh.😀😂😢
@ begging the question:
>> why go after the ass? <<
Many reasons: Variety. Different flavour and texture, for those who like eating 😜, the rush from doing something "kinky" or "dirty", and of course, just good old fashioned FUN. 🤣 And I mean OLD....people have been licking and fucking each others' arseholes for MILLENIA---the practice is certainly not new. The fact that so many cuntries passed laws against this practice is proof that certain individuals throughout history have enjoyed these "taboo" proclivities, so much so that the "authorities" figured out the best way to stamp-out these "crimes" was to pass laws, as well as get religions to scare people away from sodomy. 😂
>> if u ever watch the gay porn for 10 seconds, u would want to switch off cause it's really very disgusting leh <<
Err, not really. That depends on WHO is being gay. If it's 2 hot women, most straight men will---I guarantee---watch for more than "10 seconds". However the same cohort of straight guys will feel nauseous if they watched 2 guys pumping the Hersey Highway. Most guys can't wait for their girlfriends to bring their hot female friends over for a wild and dirty threesome. 👍🏻🤟🏽
Welcome to the world of DOUBLE STANDARDS. 🤓
The Singa The Cartoon Character Can Pu La already? Legal already? That one male or female? Feng Shui coming?
What is the old leaders doing? Never choose correct young leaders? 50 years only like that? Dunno who Cao Mei hor? Who will Cao and Fah Mei first?
The old leaders parents never cane you all is it? All too busy cutting rubber trees, feeding pigs, do rough work, who will got time whack old leaders? Even some old leaders also cut rubber trees, so guai, why will the old leaders parents cane the old leaders? Than when the old leaders become leaders, some amazing force invent cane, than cane Strawberry generation? Than those old leaders never kena whack by cane one, suddenly will become got values to teach the Strawberry Generation? Dunno the Boh Tua Boh Suay start when ah?
Why I say amazing force? The world progress into now, not some amazing force?
We learn programming language, who invent it? Find one old local leaders invent a programming language for us to learn programming and get dunno what nobel prize or dunno what prize? Than see we strawberry generation will cao and fah mei or not? Last 50 years, no old local leaders invent Google? Cut rubber tree I also know. Any rubber tree for me to cut in Singapore? If no rubber tree, how about paying me to carry goods for $5000 for 44 hours?
Honda - Beep Beep him than over take
Toyota - Toyol Ghost him than over take
Mazda - Mask him, than over take
Mercedes - Mah Sai Di, Horse shit drop, Accelerate very fast, exhaust pipe keep puff air out like shitting.
Wah seh. Does car brands have meaning? Is Feng Shui coming? Will the owl visit in 2019?
Wah seh. P1 P2 no exams? Hello. Knock knock. Old leaders. Have you all wake up from your dream?
Chicken & Egg issue (1st got Egg then Chicken or vice versa) - Amazing force - Star wars tell you liao, may the force be with you. See which side force more powerful? Hello. Old leaders. Where is you all force? Knock knock. Soon can force into kar ching liao. You all still sleeping?
@ Sheeple:
As I predicted in a previous post: What happens is ENTIRELY at the discretion of the government. You Sheeple have NO SAY, because fuck you, the government has Elites who do all the thinking, reasoning and decision-making on your behalf---whether you like it or not.
Section 377A cases---to be decided by the Public Prosecutor on a "case by case" basis
Ah...Singapore, Love is in the air.
The girly girly guys are at best like lesbians,no damsel will like them.
The old and ugly cannot be attractive to anybody.
So,
it ends up they blow and sodomise one another and do not feel shame and sick.
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