This is not just a meeting to solve problems between Russia and Ukraine to end the war. It is to consolidate Trump's eyeing the Nobel Peace Prize that some morons are egging him on by nominating him. The Europeans are making trouble behind their backs, prodding, grandstanding, gloating about hundreds of millions more aid, all to make Zelenskyy carry on with the war, just like dangling the NATO membership carrot for Zelenskyy to bite earlier on.
I think the three parties, USA, EU and Kyiv are just playing around and appearing to be doing something to force Putin to agree to a truce deal rather than ending the conflict. The war could have been stopped almost before it started, if the USA and rest of NATO stop supplying arms to Ukraine and the UK had not sabotaged the earlier deals. But they wanted this war, as forever wars suit their agenda.
There is no way Putin is going to give up territories, nor the Europeans be willing to let Trump give way to Putin by ceding whatever territories that Russia has won over the last three years. Which means no way that the war will ever end, even if they meet a dozen more times.
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'No deal unless there is a deal'. What is Trump talking about? When China was talking to them in Switzerland and London, Trump was touting about a done deal, without him being there, and there was realistically never any deal. This man is something out of the extraordinary in his delusional thinking, boasting and behavior.
As expected, there was never going to be a deal in Alaska. Now, we will wait for Trump to hit Putin with 'serious consequences' that he threatened earlier, if he really dares to. Or should we again expect another 90 days reprieve for Russia, to be shrank to 10 -12 days again under pressure? TACO will do what he does best- chickening out once again and still boasting with cluck, cluck, cluck.
But Trump is already gloating about a 'nice productive' meet, whatever that means in Trump's terminology, when he has realistically failed to snatch a deal to end the conflict. Trump has no more runways left for his gloating with grand-sounding words like nice, great, big, beautiful, constructive and now productive all of which people are getting sick and tired of swallowing.
Putin is asking Trump to meet again in Moscow. Now, let us be honest. Meeting for another ten times is not going to achieve anything. Kim Jong Un knows it after two meetings with Trump. At best it is going to improve Trump's chances of hijacking the Nobel Peace Prize. This is what Trump is aiming for, nothing else.
There are very substantive issues that cannot be resolved, the main one is of the territories that Russia has captured, which is never going to be returned to Ukraine. After all the sacrifices, Putin is going to lose his credibility if he were to give them up.
Now, Putin is warning the Europeans in NATO not to try to 'torpedo' the meeting by resorting to sabotage of the effort made in Alaska, as they did at the start of the Ukraine War. Some people are calling this meeting in Alaska just another 'Minsk version 3' following two others that were never honored by NATO. Let us wait and see how the situation will evolve.
But let us be honest. No peace deal can be achieved within a four-party quartet having different agendas - Russia, USA, Ukraine and the EU. It is an exercise in futility with sides trying to antagonize each other, just perceptively playing a game.
What's nonsense deals deals deals?
You are now the Government NOT Commercial Companies talking about deals deals deals?
Now its Agreements! MOUs and Treaties and Contracts not Deals Deals Deals!
Deals your backsides!
Still Realty Shows Hires and Fires?
John Bolton, another weasel, said that Trump did not lose, but Putin won. What is he talking about? Then who loses?
Dotard Donald Duck Tramp Trump talked about ending the horrific war!
Hello this War is caused by you Scoundrels don't be hypocrites!
This is what we call a wild spin into a win-win' situation. Difficult to understand, but equally alien to hear.
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