Many are
seeing the intended consequences of the Commission and the intended results
based on a preconceived idea or agenda of what the Commission was all about
from the very start of its existence. And they are not disappointed. Let me
point out a few unintended consequences arising from the recommendations that
would prove tricky and slimy in times to come.
The first
point is the stringent criteria for an Elected President that, and I quote a
comment by Chok Tong in the media, ‘We do not want to have a very high powered
man who can be your President to be doing nothing for six years.’ This remark
by Chok Tong was in response to a suggestion for a Vice President. But it is
still very appropriate in the case of the EP whose 6 years would mainly be
kissing children and waving at the crowds and shaking hands with the people
visiting the Istana on public holidays.
The big
question, why is there a need for such a high powered man with a string of
stringent criteria? Is the job of the EP more important, more complicated and
more demanding than that of the PM? Is the PM’s job so ‘senang’ that any Tom,
Dick and Harry could take over without a single criteria on his suitability
other than he is not insane? How many of you would agree that the PM’s job is
definitely hundreds of times more difficult and complicated and demanding than
the EP? It’s a no brainer really.
So, should
not the criteria for the EP be made applicable to the PM, and more, make it
even more stringent as the importance and complexity of the job demands a
bigger superman. It is simply nonsensical for such an important job to be given
to anyone without passing the same criteria as the cosy job of the EP. Tiok or
boh tiok? If not, then the stringent criteria imposed on the Presidential
candidate would become nonsensical as well.
The next
unintended consequence of the recommendation is that all new citizens would be
equally eligible to be the EP as long as they met the criteria, with no regards
to their place of birth. They are eligible the moment they get their
citizenship, fresh from the oven, as they said. Is this fair to the rest of the
true blue citizens? Any new citizen from PRC or India or anywhere else would
have the same right as a native citizen to be the EP. This is as good as selling out the citizens’
rights to the Johnny come lately. Good, tiok, can, acceptable, never mind?
Another
unthought of consequences, ok, I am being intellectually arrogant here to think
that the wise men and woman did not think of it, is that Pinoys would stand a
good chance to be a minority EP. The Indian Indian new citizens would fall
under the Indian category so no sweat, they are eligible if no Indians are
elected over 30 years, or an Others ie Europeans could enjoy the same
privilege. They must thank God that they are classified as Others and
automatically qualified as a minority.
What is this
Pinoy thing that is so special? If I am not mistaken, the Pinoys are classified
as Malays in their Identity Cards. So they could hitch a ride in the Malay
category to be a minority EP when the time comes. Lucky buggers. The Malay pool
of eligible candidates for minority EP is thus enlarged and there should be no
fear of no qualified candidates. The Pinoys are qualified legally by this
classification. OK, this anomaly or privilege for the Pinoys would not be
applicable if I am mistaken and they are classified as Pinoys and not Malays. I
stand corrected on this.
What other
things to consider about the recommendations? Oh there is a point that needs
further clarification on the 5 terms and 30 year absence of a minority
President. I will touch on this in another post.
Did I miss
out on more unintended consequences on the EP issue? Surely there must be
plenty. Oh, did Cheng Bock qualify or kena booted out for good? I will address
this in the next post together with the 5 terms/30 year criteria.
88 comments:
They already thought out all the reasons, made their decisions, and are just pushing it down the throats of the walking dead.
Now is the time for wayanging in Parliament, in the MSM, in walkabouts, in every function or happenings. And the commission was all about justifying the decisions, and to tighten the PAP's grip on power and the ropes around the necks of the walking dead.
As I posted elsewhere - If they were Singaporeans, would the following people qualify under this new criteria for Singapore's Presidency?
1. Nelson Mandela
2. Pope Francis
3. Jesus Christ
4. Winston Churchill
5. Abraham Lincoln
6. Xi Jinping
7. Vladimir Putin
8. Angela Merkel
9. Barrack Obama
10. Hilary Clinton
11. Donald Trump
12. Lee Kuan Yew (when he was Prime Minister at age 35 years old)
13. SR Nathan at age 70
14. Goh Keng Swee at age 40 years old
15. Albert Winsemius (Singapore's economic architect)
The criteria is ridiculous.
I don't need anybody to tell me who is qualified or not qualified to represent me or my Singapore.
It's obvious lar as tcp no longer qualify mah?
Tcb oops
Does every one in the 9-member Constitutional Commission formed to review Elected Presidency - Do they also meet the criteria they are proposing?
1. CJ Menon
2. Justice Tay Yong Kwang, Judge, Supreme Court
3. Mr Eddie Teo, Chairman, Public Service Commission
4. Mr Abdullah Tarmugi, Member, Presidential Council for Minority Rights
5. Professor Chan Heng Chee, Chairman, Lee Kuan Yew Centre for Innovative Cities, Singapore University of Technology and Design
6. Mr Chua Thian Poh, Chairman and CEO, Ho Bee Land
7. Mr Philip Ng, CEO, Far East Organization
8. Mr Peter Seah, Chairman, DBS Bank
9. Mr Wong Ngit Liong, Chairman and CEO, Venture Corporation
CNA says:
2011 CANDIDATES - WHO WOULD QUALIFY?
If the proposed revisions had been in place for the 2011 Presidential election, two of the four candidates may not have qualified to stand.
Dr Tan Cheng Bock’s lengthy tenure as non-executive chairman of Chuan Hup Holdings would not have met the qualification criteria of being a senior official who actively runs the company.
Meanwhile, in explaining his eligibility in 2011, Tan Jee Say cited his experience as regional managing director of AIB Govett, which he noted at the time did not have paid-up capital of S$100 million, but managed assets in excess of that amount.
Neither Chuan Hup nor AIB Govett have S$500 million in shareholders' equity as well.
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/review-of-elected-presidency-commission-proposes-tighter/3105392.html
The proposed revision mentioned that when there is no president from a particular race for 5 terms (30 years), then the President will have to come from that race.
Meaning of course the next President will be a Malay, and provided they can find one that fit the criteria. Most likely a minister or ex, or Speaker of Parliament or ex.
Looks like current MP and Speaker Halimah is a likely and only choice. So the rest of the MPs in her GRC may have to work harder if that happens and if no by election is held.
/// So, should not the criteria for the EP be made applicable to the PM, and more, make it even more stringent as the importance and complexity of the job demands a bigger superman. ///
redbean
Do you think this is the idea?
Later on; will qualifying criteria be introduced for Member's of Parliament.
So eventually, very few Singaporeans will qualify to stand for elections to be MP?
Does the Pope choose his cardinals who elects the next Pope?
RB you passed your PSLE right?? So you can just go read the 150+ page report to get all of your answers. As you are too damn lazy to read, then you can simply refer to the 1001 news web sites that have already analyzed and summarized the report for you.
You will know whether Tan Cheng Bok can qualify for EP. Or whether freshly minted nee Sinkies can or not. E.g. if Bill Gates or Mark Zuckerburg were to become S'pore citizens tomorrow, can they stand in EP election??
Jesus Christ!!!
Jesus would not even qualify!
Michael Palmer would have qualified. What a pity.
But must say the recommendations are the best in the world, or out of this world?
Presidency of Singapore is becoming very political and heavily managed. For me, I would like a President that has the respect and love of his/her people. Someone who put his/her interest in the people and not kowtow to political forces. Who is the person to be? I am colored blind and racial insensitive. A good Singaporean will do.
Why are Sinkies wasting breath and effort about the Elected President?Oops!
Correct me if me am wrong, it's gonna be u-turned back to Nominated
President.
Anyway, the President of Sin is no better than a puppet which we see at
Wayang Performances.
Now, Pappies are now wayang ingredients over the Puppet President.
For what?
Oh, the Puppet is paid by the Multi-million Sin Dollars per term.
No wonder it is generating so much
interest.
One thing for sure; the more controversies the Pappies create, the FASTER SIN sinks.
Sinkies are daft, however, they shall be jolted to their senses
one day, though it maybe too late
Better late than never, they say.
Do You agree?
patriot
Looks like the can of "HOLEE WORMS" MUST be CANNED at ALL CAUSE(S) (COSTS, COURSE(S) ......)?
Why are Sinkies wasting breath and effort about the Elected President?Oops!
Correct me if me am wrong, it's gonna be u-turned back to Nominated
President.
Anyway, the President of Sin is no better than a puppet which we see at
Wayang Performances.
Now, Pappies are now wayang ingredients over the Puppet President.
For what?
Oh, the Puppet is paid by the Multi-million Sin Dollars per term.
No wonder it is generating so much
interest.
One thing for sure; the more controversies the Pappies create, the FASTER SIN sinks.
Sinkies are daft, however, they shall be jolted to their senses
one day, though it maybe too late
Better late than never, they say.
Do You agree?
patriot
The can of "HOLEE WORMS", engendered by YEW KNOW HU and ABETTED (and voted in the past 51 yrs) by many 老不死的, MUST be CANNED at ALL CAUSE(S) (COSTS, COURSE(S) ......)?
The can of "HOLEE WORMS", engendered by YEW KNOW HU and ABETTED (and voted in the past 51 yrs) by many 老不死的, MUST be CANNED at ALL CAUSE(S) (COSTS, COURSE(S) ......)?
//Better late than never,//
Yew dun even have that chance?
No?
They said all roads to Rome?
And ...... now .......?
All the reasons lead to "(HOLEE) Wo(r)me(s)"?
Since the criteria is so stringent.
I want to know just how many Singaporeans can qualify.
Maybe only one Singaporean can qualify?
Like that might as well don't waste time and money on the Elections tio bo?
Too late le?
The (sampan) fate is sealed?
Oops ......
Should be the sampan is leaking?
Next they will say if you want to be PM of Singapore you must be a PM for 5 years .
Same for ministers . Or you must work ffor a local company preferably GLC with a paid up capital of $100 million
before you can stand for election. Immediately you will find singapore peaceful no kpkb . It will be a paradise.
No need for the Gverment to think how to fix the opposition. Possible scenario?
When from one ting tong leeder to another?
It is time to upgrade the criteria for PM. How can a chow kar person be elected to be the PM and be in charge of the country.
Form another Constitutional Commission to set eligibility criteria for an elected PM.
All men are equal, some are more equal than others. Thank you George Orwell.
Lee Ting Tong?
Goa Ting Tong?
Lee Ting Tong II?
Prophet Mohamad would not qualify. So this EP is going to filtering out a lot of talent.
//Elected Presidency – Cheng Bock in or out?//
Aiya
He now bz in his JW clinic lah?
Blk 50X .....?
Tue saw this leong oso .......?
At the Toa (Lan) PA YoYO?
Walking so slow like .......?
With mozzies, how many (ksks-kiasukiasi) dare get big stomach?
Means 9 mths gestation?
And from Sept 2016 to May 2017 need get pregnant earliest?
So means jun 2017 to May 2018 TFR likely 0.3 to 0.7?
Means 天意?
If we have such a high powered elected President.
I think we can discontinue the position of "Senior Minister".
Please save some money.
This PAP government is getting very, very expensive.
Is PAP government the highest cost per capita government in the world?
The (inevitable) road to (become) a dodo?
因果?
Reaping what many (greedy and cut queue and jump queue and entitlement mentality) oldies (老不死) sowed?
Mother Teresa is not qualified to be President of Singapore.
Doesn’t matter le?
国将不国?
民将不民(dodo)?
Wait for 天意 to do the necessary.
You know what happened to the Tower of Babel when men thought they were smarter than God?
True?
King Dodo is qualified?
In the end still same (fate)?
人在作天在看
Sampan (fast) "sinking"?
"Abandon ship"?
Oops sampan .....?
惨不忍睹?
MO Ngan Tai?
500 millions paid out company???
Aiya, company can have more than 500 millions paid up. How many??
Also, Turnover is also included their working capitals on business transactions.
Out-front on behalf etc...,,
So Figures might looked Great on Books but actually turnover actual profits can be only one or two millions.
Less than one Big Sweep Ticket or Today 4 million dollar draw.
Just one stroke of luck and you have monies or earnings by these kuching kurap companies slotting for one FULL year and earning one or two million dollah.
Anyway, Minority candidates, WHO qualified????
Speaker of Parliament??? Does Speaker of Parliament handle 500 million paid up company finances???
Even Prata Man as journalist qualified as running for President????
As one Anon yesterday rebuked me when I said TCB been sabo out of Race.
Quoted his post:
Anonymous Anonymous said...
@ September 07, 2016 6:52 pm
Nathan is qualified because my father say so.
You are a slave.
Shut up, kiss my ass and say thank you for the privilege.
September 07, 2016 7:06 pm
The pm asean and pm china meeting at loas was just over. Vietnam pm, pinoys president both said relationship with china 25 yrs benefited them. Little dot pm which is asean coordinator also said the same. But the 5 points proposed by china only benefit indo china countries in real money from china.
China pm wiped off the US interference in scs. He concluded china has a saying: when a horse has clocked long millage, we can know its horse power. When timeline is long enough, we can know a person s intention, the conclusion said by Likequin. I like his conclusion, pointing his gun at asean rivals to manage the differences. Who can get into china market, who can get more from china tourists are indications from Li s conclusion. Little dot should face more mosquitoes: par bang.
To divert attention to the poor economy, the domestic issue was pe. Involved race. Minority race has its own conflicting directions. TCB wanted to be pe, fat hope as he might know something not required to know as pe is to check reserves.
Why PE has become a race priority job? In the past one leeder replied to query that one race might be in conflict themselves if the army had senior commanders of certain races to face the enemies of same races. That was the reply to reason why some race was not having senior commander. Then it followed by mass immigration inflows for another race in immigrants to build up different demographic composition. Small minority became the bigger randomly met on streets. Probably pressure built up to the leeders. All of sudden, a minority race was asked to be the president. Race decides the presidency. Does it sounded like see who put pressure and say what to pacify policy?
The intention and character reveal along the timeline, the china pm commented correctly. Race change by immigration and might have led to pressure to put the unintended race as president.
Use the same barometer, it is likely that the politicians in parliament will support a prime minister must be a minority race, new citizen, who had worked in big bank. It s matter of time when this will happen.
Voters voting for the ruling party will support whatever the idea. The pm must be a new citizen from a minority race proposed by the ruling party can be another way to pacify certain pressure as the leeders had insisted pm must be of certain race and ruled out a minority race as pm.
Will this lead to devastating results. Is race the key factor in distribution of wealth among voters?
The only way to stop this kind of change in demographic composition risky play is to vote for opposition in GE. The interference and flip flop can create uncertainty in future. What do u think?
" 500 millions paid out company???
Aiya, company can have more than 500 millions paid up. How many??
Also, Turnover is also included their working capitals on business transactions "
September 08, 2016 10:49 am
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With so many Foreign Talents from India.
I'm sure many of them can provide proof that their company has more than 500 million paid up capital.
So don't worry.
Many new citizens from India is qualified to be President of Singapore.
Hi Anon 11.20
Let them put a Minority Race President there. Let them have their blunder.
This is what the strategy of the WP is. They just kept quiet.Let them do more entangling of the ropes to strangle themselves.
In time to come, Chinese Sinkies would be like the Malaysian Chinese under the Balls of the Bumis. Hopefully not. Think they are much not so scheming like the Others.
Let the Chinese Sinkies be like Dalits as what one Bro Veritas used to harp.
Let them taste the true colours and medicine of what the other Party gonna to dish out to them.
Let them suffer the indignities, the unfairness of what's coming to them.
Then in the GE, they shall get RID of the PAP who got them into these shits.
This is the beginning of the END of the PAP. If these Sinkies do no suffer unjustly and unfairly under these changes, they would not wake up to reclaim their rights.
They forgot the Lessons of the Mandarin Gardens Management's coup where the Majority became Dalits to just one minority race who are DEAD SET in pursuing TOTAL POWER for themselves.
Tien Yee Ah, Tien Yee.
Sampan 完蛋 le?
Best (siao ting tong) team (installed by 1 died lao ah pek) in charge?
(Deserved) 报应 for (greedy) oldies (to die eyes cannot closed) knowing their descendants future can only get worst and worst each passing day, month ,year, over long run gojng foward, with no light at the end of an endless pitch dark TUNNEL?
Many oldies have built their own enjoyment and well being on the sufferings of their offsprings, descendants and future future (cursed) generations?
The Emperor of hade (with all the standby treatments) in the underworld is waiting for yall?
@ virgo49 September 08, 2016 1:03 pm
//Let them taste the true colours and medicine of what the other Party gonna to dish out to them.//
Virgo老��,
Any recommendation/hole opening (cunt tao) how to abandon ship from a "sinking raft" and onto a stable oceanliner?
@ Virgo 老公公 //If these Sinkies do no suffer unjustly and unfairly under these changes, they would not wake up to reclaim their rights.//
HoLee SHIT?
@ 老公公ah pek //Let them suffer the indignities, the unfairness of what's coming to them.//
From Pimp And Prostitution LEEdershit,
What do u expect but
(W)Ho(re)Lee SHIT?
Ancient Sparta; Ancient Athens; but no more!
City States of Ephemeral Glory.
Fast forward 3,000 years;
来到一个污点。
Another Sparta; Another Athens; but so unlike the bravery?
A glory gained without respect?
A City of Sins; a city of wimps; sneered at in FT's heart?
无能鼠辈; Cowardly Forebears; Wimpy Descendants;
Tarnishing the name of pussy cats if to call them that
No Ozymandia remnants (left) for future geologists to walk away in disgust at such wimpy beings, unworthy even to occupy more than 800 sq km land.
Is it not folks of such mindsets that had engendered the Sin City of TODAY?
A City that is wading deeper and wider into (more) "SINS" to survive (cowardly and not unlike its folks of such (pathetic) mindsets)?
The price to pay (for cowardly folks) is not just the (un)sustainability issue but no one to visit forsaken graves covered with overgrown wild bushes and no single soul to 扫墓 when the (un)sustainability issue becomes unmanageable (possibly) even (way) before 2065?
Such (mindsets) are not unlike and worth as much as the (toxic rubbish waste?) dumps buried (between 1959 to 1989?) under current Lorong Halus Wetland?
Such are the litters in history where they are far from great but thought they are great but the final outcome tend to speak loudest, historically?
Many millennials are not even 21 yet so the current state cannot be of their doings?
No?
Who brought about present City of Sin?
The folks of cowardly (and pathetic) mindsets but fail to even realise it?
Maybe the committee should just be candid and honest and give us a list of people that will satisfy those criteria. I think it should be less than ten, maybe five such as Lee xx, Ho xx. Lee xxx, Ho xxx, Lee xyxy.
老Virgin: // So Figures might looked Great on Books but actually turnover actual profits can be only one or two millions.//
Tiok lah?
The fried chicken managed in excess US $100 billion but in 2009 alone din even have 1 million profit but many tens of billions of "blood letting"?
Just like the DPRK lookalike?
Managed US$1+ billions but lost a few billions over few short years at the helm?
Only ting tong can accept this logic doesn't mind lose how many gazillion but ever sat there (like a moron) can liao?
Hi bro, way to abandon Sampan into Ocean Liner??
Just look for greener pastures.
Right next door. Penang, a good destination.
Economy ok unlike sleepy town Malacca etc.
Many Sinkie working as expats there.
Not recognized in own homeland but valued away.
Incomes affordable for terrace house, a car and less stressful cost of surviving.
There a saying, without destruction, there is no construction.
So, sadly have to wait for the destruction of Sampan, before we can rebuilt a sea worthy ocean liner again.
Wait patiently for the destruction to begin and next GE hopefully begins construction.
However, it does not matter who is EP so long as the boat does not rock and roll. Sg is too small, cannot allow any turbulence.
I wonder if;
Queen Elizabeth
Prince Philip
Prince Andrew
Prince Harry
Can they meet criteria to be President of Singapore?
What about Janet Yellen?
Ben Bernanke?
- are they qualified enough to be President?
Anon 1:03pm
From last promoting a minority minister with 2 portfolios, to changing presidency to one specific minority, few are not questioning the sudden turning around. From increasing other minority races migrants from 3rd world to out numbering the born locally race of certain group should be the planned scheming on demographic re arrangement. It had to be discovered some way when on streets people of both minority and majority locally born groups can randomly count and conclude.
Majority race compositions are not spare. Many non chinese speaking but of look alike color might deem to belong to one race called chinese. RB said pinoys were grouped together as on minority group born here. I wandered that was true. If it was true, then the locally born minority group will feel the same as the locally born majority group that they have new brothers who do not share the same culture with them. The scheming of demographic change in % was never disclosed on its results. Do not assume local "chinese" are real chinese of locally born and served NS type u saw in the 70,80,90. The present chinese looking type are so different exactly are foreigners from some place not of common culture of chinese. By listening to languages they spoke, the sounds were not thais, not vietnamese, not shanghainese, not hokkien, not cantonese, i suspect these chinese types were from myannmar hill tops or loas.
Putting a minority president is a good start, as the next minority must ask for pm especially those from big land mass country and issued citizenship. These minority will have bigger ego to rule over the majority local born citizens. The former are talents to the economy, the latter are border guards by duties only. Talents like bank and company ceo foreigners turn citizens are the best people to rule this country while the born NS men are to drive them in taxi around.
This the new rule until the locally born decided to change the rule set by pap. WP keeping quiet because it had lost its voice. Shouting will put them in trouble with the fainting leeder. Just let the chaos go deeper, may be can get better fish: muddy water can touch the fish in it. By the time the chaos was so uncontrollable, voters will have to vote for alternatives and not pap. Its up to pap to create the chaos. It has nothing to do with WP, at receiving end. Agree?
PM Lee also acknowledged the lack of groundswell demanding a change in election guidelines.
Here is what he said in his recent TV appearance on Channel NewsAsia:
“We are not in a situation where the minorities are demanding something, and the majority is pushing back and saying we don’t want.”
“I’m pushing this not because I feel pressure from the minorities… but because I think it is a right thing to do.”
“Nobody is asking, but I think it is something we ought to do, and do now, for the long term of Singapore.”
http://mothership.sg/2016/09/in-the-push-for-minority-representation-the-minorities-havent-been-given-much-of-a-voice-at-all/
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Really ah?
So free is it?
Boh mee kia joh ?
So many things are broken in Singapore ... you don't want to fix.
The President's office is not broken and you want to fix.
你說人能勝天嗎?
@ virgo49September 08, 2016 3:53 pm
//Hi bro, way to abandon Sampan into Ocean Liner??
Just look for greener pastures.
Right next door//
Wah!
That's a great bonus+
An Ocean Liner ++
Sampan only 715
++ Almost 400,000
That's real cool
Real green pastures maciam endless and endless pastureland ........
And countless sweet, demure, family-centric but nose-bleed triggering chio bu, 美女?
A no-brainer (decision)?
The abandon(ment) of the sinking raft starts today, now ........
Mai Tan LIAO!
Cannot wait already!
Tak Boleh Tahan anymore (the stifling and vomit triggering stink of the (w)Ho(re)Lee shit)
The beginning of the end (for a broken raft) .......?
Starts 22 Sept 2016 "local raft time" .......
The element of (ultimate) surprise?
Up 100 basis points?
Big Fish eat small fish?
Broken raft has no place liao (in this world)?
With the whole raft stinks like (w)Ho(re)Lee shit
天若有情天亦老, TingTong在位民不民。
月若无情月长圆, TingTong执政国不国。
有TingTong, 八月十五的月亮也不圆了!
有TingTong, 九月的秋天象腊月的寒冬!
有TingTong, 赤道红点的暖气更结了冰!
有Tingtong, 红点一切的亲情不存在了!
有Tingtong, 人民一切的希望永破灭了!
有Tingoing, 红点步上回不了的不归路!
Identity Politics = Totalitarianism
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The truth is we have more in common with people of different ethnicities and religions than we can possibly know in a totalitarian system drenched in the divisive propaganda of identity politics.
Identity politics are the core of every totalitarian state. Identity politics were the beating heart of Nazism, and the core strategy of the USSR's liquidation of kulaks and other groups identified as enemies of the state.
Identity politics eliminate the potential for class consciousness that crosses ethnic and religious boundaries. As noted yesterday in Our Impoverished, Pathological Society, "race is not a significant determinant of social polarization in today's America. It is class that really matters."
Identity politics divide and fragment the debt-serf class into ethnic and religious silos that are propagandized into viewing each other as enemies rather than colleagues. The core of identity politics is if you fail to vote the party line, you are a traitor to your race/religion.
The appeal to ethnic/religious identity as the sole definition of political selfhood is the perfect tool for manipulating the masses--and this is why the only possible output of identity politics is totalitarianism.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-07/identity-politics-totalitarianism
Anyone playing race politics?
"I felt a great disturbance in the farce, as if millions of Singaporean voters cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened."
Yoda, Jedi Master
Not qualified to be Singapore's President
Obama in Loas said the tribunal judgement has legal enforcement power. China spokes woman said, the tribunal was not legally proper and china did not recognize its judgement.
But Asean s position is to have direct talk with China to settle individual country s conflicts.
So china s position is stronger than Obama s words? Whose laws are real laws?
Singapore means china is not following international laws. Singapore must help US Obama to save face.
Duterte did not want to follow the tribunal judgment but want to have direct talk with china.
That is so strange a situation: Philippines did not want to use the tribunal judgement, yet Obama wanted the tribunal as laws, and singapore supported Obama and asked china to follow the tribunal laws. Who is involved with the Scs problem?
Xi told Abe off during half time of their meeting at Hangzhou. Xi asked Abe to watch his words and behaviors, when Abe kept talking about Scs and passed the agreed half time. That was reported in Japanese newspapers.
Singapore and Japan so keen on enforcing china to follow the judgment must jointly complain to UN against china. Singapore and Japan are leaders in asia countries. They cannot allow china to not following the international laws set by Philippines and Us Obama.
Obama quietly left Laos. For his last trip as talk cork leader.
Overall, Obama did not get the attention as world leader as much as china s likequin in Loas. Singapore pm was also quietly not mentioning its position to Likequin.
This is singapore: see who say what is pleasant to the person. No real stands.
Like dealing with minority race, earlier moment said there is conflict of interest to have senior positions for minority in army , next moment u turn and does the opposite things, president must have that minority and no other race.
// This is singapore: see who say what is pleasant to the person. No real stands.
Like dealing with minority race, earlier moment said there is conflict of interest to have senior positions for minority in army , next moment u turn and does the opposite things, president must have that minority and no other race.//
Uncle,
No need go round the bush lah!
Just say the easiest to understand in layman lingua?
"See human beans speak 人话? See ghosts tawk 鬼言?"
Just like the naked Ambluror ?
Everybolee can see he never wear anything?
Only leeself thinks he weareth nicest clothes?
李ah斗
Lol
Die die must cover the Ho(le)?
国将不国?
民
心
瓦
解
?
五
十
年
的
奋
斗
毁
在
一
个
阿
斗
手
里
?
Aiyo, so simple.
As voting is compulsory and not to vote means hassle and financial penalty to reinstate your voting rights in case future wants to vote for correct person.
Just go to the.polling booth marked "Farked you both not my choice" and slot in the ballot paper.
The poor sweet innocent courting girls would be red faced seeing majority of these.
The government would be more red faced if results shown spoilt voted as ninety percent and the president is elected by only 12 and half percent.
Win by only 0.5 percent.
If you can ISIS, oops ISA, then you know voting is not Cigarette, oops secret.
How does a person evaluate the effectiveness of an administration?
Global index often comprises 3 key indicators:
1) Life Expectancy
2) Literacy
3) Income Level
But outsiders don't vote.
How do voters judge?
That is as much a science as an art?
Using 2 broad classifications:?
A) Social Group
B) Age Group
Based on (B), further breakdown into population pyramid?
For oldies category (65 and above), how would they generally view an administration?
It's the HC (healthcare), stupid?
So on that count alone (think PG card), easily about 80 to 90% swing that way?
So majority old people judgement could be lop-sided?
Would they judge on other sustainability determinants such as education &/ or economy?
Probably not?
At the other extreme spectrum, 21 to 30:
What lenses do they use?
Availability of Pokemon Go?
Cool?
Yew are happy, wifey or to be is happy, and for the gentle sex -- no rocking of the boat?
So about easily 70 to 80% swing that way too?
But whether things are doing well going forward hinges on some key indicators like the real actual delivery of the education immediate and over medium and long run?
Structure and sustainability of the economy?
Probably the age group 31 to 64 would use more holistic lens to score on their report cards?
On these 2 key criteria and riding on the foundation and institution built by the old guards, is the economic performance sustainable?
Are resources well allocated in the education system such that besides provision of general education, is it able to produce winners or at all to drive the sustainability of the future economic performance?
On the last 2 score, how would you judge?
Some can see, some just follow, some agar agar?
In a nutshell, IMPERFECT INFORMATION?
What have the co-drivers been doing all these years while in politics?
For example, could they not publish their own report or finding like one week before an election on such key areas?
The economy is currently probably quite imbalance on many count but here is not the right place and time to list a detailed breakdown .......
On the education front of producing future winners or talents, it could be even worst?
So, the score card be graded based on "A" Level format could be
Economy "U" or "S"
Education "U" or "S"
Note: "U" - Below 40 marks
"S" - Sub-Pass 40-44 marks
What do you think?
Could imperfect information and dubious judgement criteria on the part of different group of voters "distorted" past appraisals?
What is the best approach?
"See human beans speak 人话? See ghosts tawk 鬼言?"
On this count, what is the score card?
Drivers "A" ?
Co-Drivers "E" ?
Aung Juan "U" ?
SonofaDud "U" ?
Others "U" ?
Note: "A" - 70 marks and above
"E" - 45-49 marks
RB,
Can you also touch on the bit about the advisers'group chairman as tie breaker when his team is EQUALLY split on an issue. There are 6 members currently and it may be 8 if the commission's proposal is accepted. My question is a tie breaker chairman is only possible if his team is odd number in strength but the current group of 6 isn't nor the proposed 8. Surely, they are not saying that the chairman has to change side and change his original stand on an issue to break a tie? Sounds pretty stupid to me, if this is the case, don't you think?
//Sounds pretty stupid to me, if this is the case, don't you think?//
Is it not like that past 51 yrs?
Now then yew realised?
Hu (more) STUPID?
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