9/13/2019

Wei Ling's latest Facebook post

Dr Lee Weiling makes new Facebook post, Lee Hsien Yang shares it in support


In a Facebook posting today (10 Sep), Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong’s sister, Dr Lee Wei Ling reiterated that founding PM Lee Kuan Yew had always wanted his house at 38 Oxley Road to be demolished.

She reminded everyone that at a special session of Parliament on 13 April 2015, PM Lee said, “Mr Lee’s position on 38 Oxley Road was unwavering over the years, and fully consistent with his lifelong values. We should respect his wishes, as well as those of Mrs Lee.”

However, since then, she said that PM Lee has sought to “rewrite history” about their father’s stance on demolition “to claim, unbelievably, that Lee Kuan Yew wavered in his unwavering wish”.

She quoted PM Lee saying, “However, after hearing Cabinet’s unanimous views that the property should not be demolished, Mr Lee eventually came to accept that the Government was likely to preserve the property in the public interest. He was consequently prepared to be flexible and contemplate options short of demolition.”....

She went on to say that after their mother died in 2010, PM Lee led their father and the family to believe that the house had in fact been gazetted or that its gazetting upon their father’s passing would be inevitable.

The above are a few comments on Wei Ling's facebook post in the TOC.  I am not not going to waddle into this family dispute but could not believe that the big white elephant is staring at everyone but no one could see it or want to see it.

Can anyone here spot the white elephant? The man in the centre of all this is a man of no nonsense, a man that would send shivers down the back of anyone summoned to stand in front of him to answer his queries. When Lim Chee Onn was wrongly accused of corruption, he made sure every stone was turn upside down to check the facts that eventually saved the day for Chee Onn. The allegation was vanquished and the culprits severely punished.

51 comments:

Virgo 49 said...

This Article or posting is in support of Mr Terry Xu.

Added weight that Mr Xu is just replicating what's happening.

Also, just also parroting what's HC posted about cutting ties with toxic relatives in a way referring to this matter.

So if the Courts still ruled in favour of the complainant then don't know what to say.

Cheers

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

Eh Virgo, this article is not in support of anyone.

Redbean

Anonymous said...

Hi

Getting more and more and more interesting!

It is time to buy the 4D number 0038 and 3838 again!

Huat Ah!

Virgo 49 said...

Sorry, Mr.RB. what's i meant the posting by LWL.

Cheers

Anonymous said...

Rb, why bring up this matter?
Today is Chinese Mid-Autumn Festival or 中秋节。Do you no wanna wish the Spore First FamiLee's well to reconcile & live in harmony? Why do you need to do tat? U think is ok for u?

Anonymous said...

Anonymous911am.

So what mid autumn festival?

Why cannot bring this issue up this morning? Why?

Your good friend gave you free moon cakes?

Hahaha....

Anonymous said...

//Why cannot bring this issue up this morning? Why?//

Firstly, PM already said this matter already been settled in Parliament. Secondly, it's none of our business. Lastly, u wanna drink kopi by man in blue izzit?

imho said...

Not good to air family stuff in public. The siblings should work together whether they like each other or not.

Anonymous said...

Hello anon 9.43am

Drink Chinese tea with moon cakes Will be BEST-est!

Hahaha.....

Anonymous said...

Hi imho. Totally agree with with. Chinese saying 家丑不可外扬,冤家宜解不宜结。

Anonymous said...

Anon 10.06am
Probably u can Tan Gu Gu..

Anonymous said...

Part 1

@ Virgo 49 September 12, 2019 10:25 am
///The Papies are conning the Opposition but they are NOT fooled by them.
Long ago, alreday have the Electoral Boundaries all drawn out.
Then recently called for them to draw up the boundaries..Next day see tender for marking booths and
tables and computers and laptops.
Cannnot use old laptops and computers meh? Or already brought home by the Evil Serpents like the SCDF
director.
This is to distract the Oppositions that Erection Next year.
Nov collect your Bicentinal credits.Dafts happy happy.
So sure Dec 14th still school holidays and caught the Oppo off guard.
Cheers///


Hey Uncle Casino,

Yesterday did not ask you about all this!

The question was:

///Uncle Virgo,
Can you teach us what is pay out?
How the system works?
If Mar 2020 has the highest payout means what?
The chances is the highest (will win $$$)?
Not punting or anything.
Just curious cos not many frens or relatives are hardcore gamblers or take it as hobby to relax.
Don't feel so sore or offended about your GQ...
It was a complement :)))
Couldn't fathom why you seem to take it as an insult and went on so much on it.
Don't forget to explain what is payout and what all the odds mentioned above really means, ok?
If NOT, next time also won't bother to share anything in MSN le if yall oldies also so selfish like those
millionaire JLBs and grassrot pple ..///


Just let u know no need to bother anymore le.

Yesterday evening after finished work, spoke to one Chinese uncle who often hangs around the market area reading (only certain pages of the Chinese evening) newspapers and weekly "news" reports (马经, hehe)

He explained everything le.

He used horse punting as an example.

For horse punting, low payout means the horse likely to win. Eg. Single digit payout for a particular horse like $8 means it is a "red bean" ... Oops... "red horse" aka "Ang BAEY " (in hokkien)

If payout is a few hundred $, likely the horse will come in first from the bottom. Bao Jiak (by Sgpools) :)))

So he said the odds for the dates spoke about by the 2 uncles on Sunday means if buy 2020 Mar which has the highest payout, means the boatquay will laugh all the way to river... Oops... Bank.

At least 99% Kena Bao jiak (by the boatquay).

Anonymous said...

@All, @RB,

Simi white elephant?!?!

White elephant aka old fart already dead, rotted & burnt to ashes liao. OF NO CONSEQUENCE ALREADY!! LOL!!!

2ndly lim chee onn got PAPies support. Terry got PAPies support or not?!?!?!

3rdly, even if go court, PAPies can make it closed court sessions with media gag order.

4thly, with the trend of past 60 years, conclusion of any court case is IRRELEVANT to your wellbeing or your fucking children wellbeing .... Better to focus on more important things to better yourself.

5thly, I'm too busy enjoying my MSW durian mooncakes & 大中国 lotus mooncakes. Been nibbling portions since breakfast .... KNN sinful but once a year lah. Drinking kopi with the mooncakes LOL!!

WSG
PS: My war stocks portfolio reached their FUCKING HIGHEST EVER in the last 20 years!!! .... Took little bit of profits again by trimming another 5% off the top positions last night.

Anonymous said...

Part 2

However, he said he has been gambling horse since young.

He said the game is quite "dirty".

He added he had seen a lot.

He advised me to stay away from casino gamblers. (so the drink and Atas sandwich offer (to U) has been "uninvited" ) :(((

He asked why I also go Genting gamble.

Hell no.

Mee no gamble casino. Mee dislike casino.

Told him go Genting to relax and enjoy the cool air and facilities "subsidised" by gamblers. So far only stepped into Genting casino once to look see look see (and that was donkey years ago).

He said good. Dun get involve. He said nowadays he analyse the horse gambling is to keep his brain active. He said he only punts one or two races each time if "there is a good chance". Some race days he doesn't punt at all. And he said usually he punts the minimum bet. So it is a very small sum and fraction of his monthly allowance.

He repeated a few times NEVER NEVER befriend CASINO GAMLERS or for that matter hard core horse punters.

Told him am aware of all these all the while. That is why never socialise with any at all.

Towards the end of the conversation, returning to the election dates, he said voting is like game theory.

He know about card counting cos he used to play Black Jack and somebody who graduated with majors in Math and Statistical subjects taught him card counting techniques to beat the odds.

He said voting like game theory prisoner dilemma classic example.

He also play safe.

Vote for ruling party and let other people vote opposition

Like Hogan and 凹蛛泥。

Anonymous said...

Part 3

He advised mee to vote for LHL and his party.

Tend to lean towards what he said.

Sounds more palatable and reasonable.

Uncle Casino, to be frank, your "marketing" (for TCB and parties) sucks.

(Rudely maciam order pple) Vote TCB and parties.

High chance will chase away many fence sitting voters into lhl and the ruling party's arms.

(Your rudeness and overconfidence ) Likely will backfire on TCB and parties.

The uncle added that the oppo has some good pple like TCB, Hazel, Jeanette, Michelle, Prof Paul T. , Nicole, He TR, TJS, TKL but to win and be a competent govt needs much more than that.

And the few economists the oppo hopes to rely on are the old sch generation (and more of the same).

The only way to change for better is to join the ruling party and submit whatever good ideas to the top. The top quite smart and progressive. Will likely able to see one.

As for recognition and credit, he said a real altruistic person who seeks to help the people firstly should join the side that can win or hold power, then can effect change. Second, whether credit or recognition is given should be secondary if the ultimate aim is to benefit the people. As looooo......oooong as a good idea is implemented, it doesn't matter whose name is in it as looooo......oooong as the "old hundred surnames " (老百姓) benefit.

Didn't know a horse punting uncle got so much wisdom and 墨水

No wonder in 普通话, there is a saying:

"高手在民间"!

Anyway told him voting is personal decision and will decide when the time comes.

At this point, dunno even which boundary belongs to and who are the contestants.

So for a fence sitter, based on what to decide now?

For now am leaning towards LHL and his party.

When the time comes, it depends on what the boundary is and who Vs who and getting a close observation and scrutiny of the candidates on stage and their background/ profile.

Singapore needs good people to take it forward, and NOT just candidates who has the words "opposition" on their foreheads?

Cheers

Anonymous said...

WSG.... congrats!

All the best!

Anonymous said...

Today is Mid-Autumn Festival.
As we look up to the full moon tonight, let's not forget that there is a Chinese Robotic Lunar Rover YuTu or 玉兔 sent via ChangEr 3 (嫦娥3) rocket doing lunar surveillance (already been there 6 yrs on, hope still working), China space technologies r improving yr after yr till the days of Stars Wars or Star Trek, perhaps the US might lack behind when their economy starts crumbling, no...

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

The second Jade Rabbit, Yutu2 has been on the moon, on the far side, for more than 8 mths and still sending new pictures and information back.

Virgo 49 said...

Join the Ruling Papies and become PAID Parrots or dumb asses.

Insults to their so called intelligence or stupidity.

So far, which SMART alec gave very good policies for the people?

Only to fleece and entrenched their powers and self interests

Virgo 49 said...

Go to the Sky Above Clouds so that you do NOT have to lie on the bed earlier than your time and be pinched by the care givers.

Ways to fight your onset dementia.

Cheers

Virgo 49 said...

Aiyo imho.

Asians, especially the Chinese are very good in false facade of putting masks in public and in private.

They like strained relationships to fester and behaved as though everything is ok whilst they are not.

Be more like the South Koreans or the brash ang mohs where they were trashed their matters face to face and settled them once and for all.

The two nominated siblings are adamant to follow their late father's will but the other forbid.

So, in order to settle the matter they wanted to have a Court's Order to justify the matter.

The Other purposely played another tactic and delayed the process.

So now this case coming up in a suit against some one who happened to step on his tail and the others are most happy that it be open in a Court.

So, best opportunity to expose the truth.

That's why they now even rehatched the issue in their postings to show their support to the accused.

The Plaintiff would try their best NOT to go into the crux of the matter.

But the defendant will try to go into the subject matter as their main defence that they are right.

Whether being used or been used is a subject matter.

Anyway, good for coming GE as the masses would have a better picture of the real matter.

Unless, they delayed it.

Cheers

Anonymous said...

@ Anonymous September 13, 2019 10:57 am aka Makilah aka KNN aka Frog aka IMHO aka WSG aka Unknown Unknown :)))

///5thly, I'm too busy enjoying my MSW durian mooncakes & 大中国 lotus mooncakes. Been nibbling portions since breakfast .... KNN sinful but once a year lah. Drinking kopi with the mooncakes LOL!!///


Hey Anon 10.57am,

Were you the one the other day sitting with your 80+-yo mentor I'm Chinatown near the Sago Lane there...?

You are right!

The 大中国 moon cake is the 老字号 and most recognizable brand in Chinatown.

The good thing about voting... Oops... Buying a 老字号 brand is no need to tao tia. Pay a bit more and can be assured of the quality and safety of the food.

During normal days, U should try some of the 大中国 pastries. Used to dabao a lot back to office and put in the pantry area for the staff to eat for tea break. Save time for them to go downstairs or nearby cafe to snack. Happy stomach = Happy staff = High productivity (not always but most of the time, especially the chabor. They like nice pastry a lot and some quite thumb jiak will eat a lot....much more than guys...)

Talking about 老字号, it applies for election too?

Super strong brand (老字号), like LHL Party... oops... PAP no need to tao tia one.

Their salaries a bit high but can be assured of the quality

Bao Jiak

Have a good Moon Cake festival nibbling your 大中国 moon cake. Most people eat moon cake and wash down with Chinese tea. U very SPECIAL! Wash down with kopi.

That day at a coffee shop saw one man eating moon cake with beer - Guinness stout mixed with Heineken.

But haven't seen or heard anyone eating moon cakes with hard liquor or Mao tai yet...

Mb in China they do?

Anonymous said...

Rb, probably Rabid 3 is a human being (maybe name Wu Gang or Hou Yi) akan datang by Chinese Space tech coming up to b sent to moon or even Mars, stay tune...

Anonymous said...

To tell you a little "secret"

That day after seeing the man eating moon cake with beer, happened to see some sliced moon cake at home in the fridge.

So after eating one slice, decided to go for more cos taste quite OK and partly super stressed and need sthg sweet to unwind...

While taking another slice of the moon cake in the fridge, saw a chilled bottle of 2010 CS red wine by the side.

Decided to pour a bit to wash down with the moon cake (used a very small Korean wine glass so it was really very very small amount)

To be honest, that was a bad idea

Mixing moon cake with red wine the taste really 怪怪。

Told myself this will be the first and last (怪怪) "experiment"

Next morning stomach churned like Siao and need to dash for the toilet.

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

If the Chinese landed on the moon, they would be the first man that landed on the moon. The fake landings by the Americans, out of 7 missions, they perfectly landed there 6 times as claimed, when everyone is struggling even to put a robotic rover on the moon surface. With 6 missions there, there must be tons of information available.

The Americans claimed they have lost all the technology and information on how to land on the moon. Can you imagine that such high security stuff, with many copies everywhere, could be lost, totally lost and no trace of them? Did they treat such highly classified information as primary school notes, used and threw away? Or perhaps all stolen by China!!!

They could not even produce a functional rocket to take them to the International Space Station built by the Russians and have to depend on Russian rockets to bring their astronauts there. Did they ever do anything that is working in the NASA space programme? Why scrubbed such a mammoth set up for good?

Oh, because it was all a big hoax, achieving nothing but fake publicity and claims. So might as well scrapped it. And now China is going to be there, they are frantically trying to catch up with a new space programme.

Anonymous said...

Rb, maybe the Americuns may blame it on the moon as Zhang Yu already sang tat song long long ago, watch tis

https://youtu.be/ZVtwLlBlYdc

Anonymous said...

Part 1: GE 2019/ 2020 – A Quantitative and Qualitative Analysis

As the next GE draws near, be it online or offline, one cannot help but notice a heightened buzz in the air. Seemingly, there appears a colossal tug of war between various parties ratcheting up their election machinery to win the hearts and minds of the electorate especially the fence sitting middle ground?

Based on ball park calculation, 35% to 40% of voters could be hardcore ruling party supporters? On the other end of the political spectrum, hardcore opposition supporters could number between about 30 to 35%? Fence sitters are estimated at between 25% to 35% of the electorate? Technically, in a democratic election, it is the majority that elects the next government? The reality seems to be far from it? Win or lose, the “king-makers” are the fence sitters? The middle ground minority of about 25 to 35% are the ones who decide each election outcome? Such is the irony in modern days democracy!

Therefore, the first determinant of the Law of Political Demand could be the fence sitters?

Next, another determinant could be hot potato issues?

Hot potato issues of who?

Where are all the critical thinkers, oldies or otherwise?

Who knows the answer?

Please KEE CHIU!

Will wait for some response.

(Before Part 2 is posted on the other determinants of the Law of Political Demand, determinants of the Law of Political Supply, Determinants of the Elasticities of Political Demand and Political Supply, Voters Political Substitution Effect and Political Income Effect between Choice of Different Political Parties)

PS: In Part 2 to Part 6, other concepts to be explored include Voters Utility Functions, Political Indifference Curves and the Marginal Rate of Political Substitution, Uncompensated Political Demand, Compensated Political Demand, Political Compensating Variation, Voters Surplus, Politicians Surplus etc.

Aye ….

听起来怪怪的?

Is this a new (unpublished) thesis (on democratic elections)?

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Anonymous said...

Enjoy the mid-autumn festival.

Drink more teh sue sue.

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

Until now no one is able to identify the elephant that I mentioned in my article even with the clues that I provide. It is just a factual issue that I am pointing out. It is a simple point that was overlooked, a point that when dealt with there and then, all the problems related to the property today would not have happened.

Stupidity Got No Cure = 87 (Paitt Qi)? said...
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Anonymous said...

RB, maybe my guess is correct.
It's none other the founding father of modern Spore - LKY.

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

'She went on to say that after their mother died in 2010, PM Lee led their father and the family to believe that the house had in fact been gazetted or that its gazetting upon their father’s passing would be inevitable.'

I am not really concern about the comments of Wei Ling but just this sentence in her facebook post. Understand why?

LKY was led to believe that the house was gazetted or this would be inevitable. Knowing LKY, when in doubt, he was not a man to just walk away feeling clueless. In this case it affected him personally and very important to him. The first thing LKY would do would be to find out and it was so easy. He only needed to call a few ministers to tell him what was going on. He would not live his life in doubts.

And no one would dare to lie to him. Or he would simply tell his PPS to check it out. And everything would be clear to him and he could do what was necessary to get what he wanted done, with no doubts.

I cannot believe that this doubt would be left to fester till today, till after his death when he could clear his doubt almost immediately. And today we would not have to see this family feud continuing in this way. This is not the LKY that I knew.

You guys follow me?

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

thinkbig.blogspot.com

Your comments are very academic and would be something the academics and students would love to argue about. In realpolitik, some may apply some may not or all may apply or all may not.

Politics is not an exact science and is very subjective and fluid. Every circumstance and situation is different.

Anonymous said...

//..I cannot believe that this doubt would be left to fester till today, till after his death when he could clear his doubt almost immediately. And today we would not have to see this family feud continuing in this way. This is not the LKY that I knew.

You guys follow me? //

Rb, what can a person do when he passed on. He can't rise from dead to tat his spoilt brag u follow what I wrote in the will or else...though he did promised he would be rise from dead when he smell something wrong with his kingdom. Maybe he had discovered something not so right about is will & can't trust his elder spoilt brag anymore but to let his daughter-in-law rewrite the will, lky is not stupid but he knew something he did was not right, probably he might ask the permission Up There to let him a rebirth a second chance to change the fate, noboLee knows..

Anonymous said...

@RB,

///I cannot believe that this doubt would be left to fester till today, till after his death when he could clear his doubt almost immediately///

You're an idiot. Old fart in fact had an official meeting with the entire cabinet (with cancer loong holding court) to discuss precisely about the house. When old fart returned home, Lee Wei Ling personally described him as being devastated, like a beatened fighter..... Maciam like a dog with its tail between its legs.

This is why Lee Wei Ling says old fart really thought the entire govt will override his wishes.

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Anonymous said...

9.43am, I must say that Lim Kopi already bad enough. U did not mention the lagi worst that is Kena sodomized by tuakee jialat jialat leh.😰

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

This is why Lee Wei Ling says old fart really thought the entire govt will override his wishes.
September 13, 2019 11:37 pm

You dare to call me idiot when you did not know what you are talking? LKY is not a man that lived on beliefs. His life was spent on getting the answer right there and now. He would not walk away believing in something that is just a belief. That is one reason he did not believe in any religion, all beliefs.

He was a man who was reputed with being very impatient very not knowing the truth. He would double check on anything. In this case it was not what he believed and this would not be missed by him.

What an idiot you are thinking that anyone could mislead LKY to walk away not knowing the truth and believing something is true.

Anonymous said...

@RB

I say you're the idiot becoz old fart marched to the cabinet to set things straight & tell the ministers to their faces what HE wanted. Instead he kena fucked upside down by them, if LWL is to be believed. Old fart was devastated as it appeared his own son, cancer loong, was the ring leader in the cabinet doing the fucking as recounted by LWL. Old fart & cancer loong had discussed beforehand about old fart going before the cabinet to get answers & to square things, but old fart didn't realise he was stepping into a prepared ambush.

Anonymous said...

Kindly respect one another in this blog. Mr Redbean, think that you hv to consider drafting a Code of Conduct in this blog or juz delete them.

Anonymous said...

8.47am, u are an idiot calling Rb as one. I wanted to sodomize you leh so u will wake up😀

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

Anonymous said...

@RB

I say you're the idiot becoz old fart marched to the cabinet to set things straight & tell the ministers to their faces what HE wanted. Instead he kena fucked upside down by them, if LWL is to be believed. Old fart was devastated as it appeared his own son, cancer loong, was the ring leader in the cabinet doing the fucking as recounted by LWL. Old fart & cancer loong had discussed beforehand about old fart going before the cabinet to get answers & to square things, but old fart didn't realise he was stepping into a prepared ambush.
September 14, 2019 8:47 am

I will call this guy an idiot one more time, an ignoramous pretending to be a knows all. Who would dare to argue against LKY when they would wet their pants whenn LKY is angry? Even his top ministers like Barker and Rajaratnam were defer to him. When LKY was alive, when he said yes, no one dared to say no.

Only a recalcitrant idiot, stupidity has no cure, would believe that those minions in the Cabinet would dare to oppose him and get away with it. Even today, none of them would dare say no to Hsien Loong, and to argue that they dared to say no to LKY and fix him up, so naive.

Anonymous said...

@RB

Haha you are so stupid to believe old fart was so feared & respected till the last second he up lorry. After 2011 he was persona non grata, only paraded out for idiot masses like you. Also so stupid to imagine his son & cabinet not on same page.

Anonymous said...

@ CI

Why yall oldies like always AT ODDS with each other , especially u and rb ?

Anonymous said...

This place is getting too unbecoming unnecessarily.

This is my last visit.

Thanks to RB for all these years of entertainment.

Bye bye.

Anonymous said...

Why Arh Loonng given n controlled the property, sold it to Yangyang, and went thru this charade? So GainPeng meh? So stupid orh.
Arh Lau realized near his last days, he was no more king... The real king was dowager holiJinx lah.
Can't you see the YangWei mutual hatred for HoliJinx n Vic versa?

Anonymous said...

No
man is
invincible.

Anonymous said...

'No man is invincible'.

That goes for anybody. lt included Lee Kuan Yew, it shall apply to his Son as well.
Soon we shall see it.

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