His message: “A wholly Singaporean workforce without any work permit holder at all by 1991.”
“Workers we want to retain beyond 1990 should be those who will raise our level of productivity,” the late Mr Lee said. “We shall give such workers permanent residence with a view to citizenship. Then we shall have a more homogenous workforce, working together as a team, because they all feel committed to Singapore. Then the principle, from each his best, to each his worth, which has been the basis of our progress, will work under optimal conditions.”’
The above is written by Jonathan in a post in the TRE. The statement or intent of LKY then was for a Singaporean workforce with new citizens converted to Singaporeans which is what is happening today. The problem is the implementation and the quality Singaporeans that he is hoping to net. There was this assumption that the new citizens are quality citizens, not fakes and con men. What we have today are lots of fakes and con men being converted to Singaporeans. So instead of the ‘homogenous’ Singaporeans, read quality workforce, we end up with half past six Singaporeans passing off as foreign talent new citizens.
The second problem is that instead of a Singaporean workforce aka with new citizens, there are so many foreigners here in the workforce that are not Singaporeans but acting as drugs to give the economy a temporary high. And to keep this high, more foreigners or drugs need to be injected or the whole ponzi will collapse. As such, the ideal of LKY, of a Singaporean workforce or Singapore for Singaporeans is being diluted to the extent that Singapore is now for any Tom, Dick and Harry that could stroll in to steal the jobs of Singaporeans.
And the khongcums are hapless and could not see how to get out from this mess they have created except to keep pumping drugs into the system. But for how long?
50 comments:
Rb//So instead of the ‘homogenous’ Singaporeans, read quality workforce, we end up with half past six Singaporeans passing off as foreign talent new citizens.//
Uncle,
Look no further lah. There are quite a number of them infesting your blog lah .....
Read below (by agk) the "GIVEAWAY ADMISSION" which "STICKS OUT LIKE SORE THUMBS" that he (agk) is not a native born sinkies lah ...... even a bortachay and blind ox like agk can be given "pink ic", dunno what to say le ...... YEW think old fart eyes paste stamps or his underlings eyes paste stamps ...... or paste somthing else .............. like a thick envelop ....... so not blind oso become blind liao ......
Back to the "Sore Thumbs" below, can AnyboLEE point out which parts are "GONG GONG GIVEAWAY ADMISSIONS" that he (agk) is not a native born sinkies? AnyboLEE (other than his JLB masters) can spot them ....... KEE CHIU!
agongkiaJune 05, 2017 1:07 am
//Penang is not only about cheap food or durian.Come,oops,no,Go for something more worthy.
Plenty of lobang.
Come ayer itam morning market kopitiam,nearest to longkow,that gongkia surrounded by Lau yees talking loudly in penang hokkien is me.
Recommend you some Lau yee.//
Ok, ok. Yew oldies think mee anyhow say, izzit? Read what one of your own (the street smart lao jiao virgin69 ...... oops ..... virgo49) commented below:
Virgo49June 05, 2017 7:57 am
//He.must be a Penangnite who came here to sponge on the Sinkies. Actually Penangties are very friendly ones, how come Agongkia like that?//
It was a good goal. It was something that will bring pride to Singaporeans but alas, it was not to be. Said so loud and clear but the machinery ultimately succumbs to temptation of $$$ and go for easy way out. Import cheap labor masked as talent. Business bosses happy and local could not recognize between real or fake degrees. Happy situation for all the tawkays.
The relationship between Singaporeans and Malaysians goes back a long way to our historical past. We were at one time one people under the colonial masters. Subsequently we treated the Malaysians as our traditional source of foreign workers as they could blend in quite well with our culture.
It is the new unknown elements from all over the world that would eventually destroy the fabric of our society. Given a chance, it is so easy to see how many have fake degrees and fake job experience foreigners that are now in high places sitting on top of more qualified Singaporeans. Would MOM set up an unit to sieve out all these fakes that are stealing our jobs? I would volunteer to head such a unit if given a chance.
Every jobs stolen by a fake degree holder or with fake job experience is a crime against our Singaporeans.
More "STICKING OUT like SORE THUMBS" clues & own admission (by none other than agk). Read below what he wrote: Cannot tell the reason but actually he is in fact telling the whole world IMMEDIATELY with his FREUDIAN SLIP ...... AnyboLEE can spot the "GIVE AWAY SELF-ADMISSION SORE THUMBS" clues? KEE CHIU!
agongkiaJune 05, 2017 5:18 am
//Can't tell you my reason here but I still hold on to the pink ic.Your pink ic "Ho Liao".//
Many Sinkies are trying to ape their late idol.
Say 1 thing and does the
opposite to confuse others.
Bit Sinkies were mesmerised by the horrible guy who was idolized by many daft
Sinkies.
LKY did actually called his idolaters DAFT and asked them what's wrong with collecting more money.
Chua Chin Leng aka redbean June 05, 2017 9:18 am
//It is the new unknown elements from all over the world that would eventually destroy the fabric of our society. Given a chance, it is so easy to see how many have fake degrees and fake job experience foreigners that are now in high places sitting on top of more qualified Singaporeans. Would MOM set up an unit to sieve out all these fakes that are stealing our jobs? I would volunteer to head such a unit if given a chance.
Every jobs stolen by a fake degree holder or with fake job experience is a crime against our Singaporeans.//
Uncle, Yew have hit the problem on its head! Arguably, it can't be said any better! Mee, like many in msn and sinkinland, shares the similar view that violating against the Principle of the #1 "Core Political Problem" of Nation Building namely "Forging a Common Identity" stated so profoundly in PS 101 (Political Science), is akin to "Committing Nation Building Suicide?" ........... It is not "if" but "when" the cumulative, pent up and snow-balling problems will implode? The problems were being kicked down the road by LaoGoa & his cohort, carried on........ The younger and future generations are going to bear the brunt of the shits left behind by the PG, LaoGoa & his cohort, & ...... But which oldie wants to bequeath hell to their offsprings when they eventually depart? So the oldies may have to pass on with bitterness, sadness, unfinished tasks ..... and possibly eyes wide open in the end?
Wah, 1982, 35 years back since my second son is born. That's time Mata2 wear long pants liao.
Aiyo, these Papies got so many mouths. You talk talk also cannot beat them.
They have one thousand and reasons to rebutt you. They will said Times are different now. That time Mata wear short pants just like their supporters used to quote.
At that time, my Father. Now Me. That time and now different. We need these Talents to help our citizens more jobs. Labour markets very tight. Now unemployment rampant, they never mentioned very tight.
The hawkers and the txi drivers will go after my blood if I don't bring in another five millions into Singapore, you know.
How they gonna earn S$40,000.00 a month just Chee Chiak. That's how our KBW said don't need degrees lah, be hawkers. You all don't listen.
Then midnight shifts, five dollars food can see S$28.00. Most customers pay unless so gian png and not so tipsy after drinks.
We must build our Support Base by having these talents in. They be beholden to us. I know you majority very fickle and some Kwa Lan like some bros here who everyday kpkb and that Mr RB everyday stir shits with his Upright postings, until the Dafts, many will wake up you know. They listened and said "Yoo Leeyo". So very frightening.
Must get support base from the new talents and also the other two minorities. Give them lots and lots of sugar. Like Priority housings, no need wear green uniforms and let the leeches suck their blood. Plus us suck their blood sure kwa kwa only.
With our minorities and the new talents support base, we be in power forever.
Mederak, Mata Kas.
The very interesting thing is that PAP went ahead with their
open open massive immigration policy to achieve the population
of 6.9m people, but still PAP gotten 70% of the votes!
Singaporeans must had voted with eyes wide opened.........still 70% went to PAP!
I suppose this is Singapore! Singapore is like that.
Kpkb kpkb and kpkb......but when come to voting, PAP!
Die-Die-PAP!
AnonymousJune 05, 2017 9:44 am
//Many Sinkies are trying to ape their late idol. Say 1 thing and does the opposite to confuse others.//
Anon 9.44am, are u referring to arh long san & his JLBs? Many sinkies are "caught flat-footed due to that" & their lives (& fiture) kena messed up? Now how many still trust their words? Many sinkies have already wised up and when the JLBs say "jump", better faster "prone down or roll up in a curl" ......? Or sit down? Or at least stay still? Must always think and do opposite to what they say to stay afloat otherwise might get "sold off to brothels & suffer in hell fire till death and never able to see sunlight anymore"?
Just look around us....everything like ok leh!
Everything like very calm.
Everyone is still smiling.
Restaurants and food courts still very very long Qs.
COE still overscribed. A piece of paper......around $50,000.00!
Showflats still flooded by buyers.
BTOs overscribed.
Etc etc etc etc..........
Where is the economic slow down! Where?
Please tell me lah!
Typo .....
Should be ....
*(future)
Ya my Nephew also like most sinkies very selfish type cause he is doing well so he said sg has the best government and best place to stay. When confronted by many poor sinkies situation he just diam diam macham like u die your business so what to do?
19.17 am my Wife Nephew also like that very strong pap supporter and a real asshole too
@ 10.14am kongcum talking in his dream
//Restaurants and food courts still very very long Qs.//
>>>Restaurants ......... very very long Qs.<<<
Yew number what tua Hsian Tao? Which restaurants verLEE verLEE lo(ooooooooo)ng lo(ooooooooo)ng Q?
Any empirical evidence?
Mee eveLEEday passes by one of the most heavy human traffic malls/ hubs in sinkinland! The restaurants all mostly 90% empty during lunch peak hours and the service staff swatting flies .......
Yew want bluff the oldies here better wear iron cap when it rains ...... cos lightning might follow yew like yewr own shadow .......
One shudders to think that the current Singapore leadership that wants to remake Singapore as a big global city with a huge foreigner population, in contrast to the original vision set by the respected founders of this nation, is the same one that predicted so wrongly that China will be isolated and ostracized by all nations over the South China Sea issue . . .
Hi anonymous 10.23am, Good morning.
Love yourself and be kind to others.
Cheers.
@ 10.14am kongcum talking in his dream
//Restaurants and food courts still very very long Qs.//
// Where is the economic slow down! Where?//
>>> .............. food courts still very very long Qs.<<<
>>> Where is the economic slow down! Where?<<<
Yew (obviously) another Economics Ignoramus ...... Can only see the facile packed foodcourts but not the underlying reasons?
No matter how bad times are, even zero or negative income, PEOPLE still need to eat! Only kongcums think packed foodcourts, coffeeshops and hawker centres imply economy verLEE good ......
In actual fact, when hawker centres, coffeeshops and foodcourts are verLEE packed, these are worrying signs all are not well ......
These places are considered "inferior goods" and their demand are INVERSELY related to INCOME GROWTH!
When they are packed and demand high, it implies income are "shrinking" .......
In Tanjong Pagar, for example, during evening time, 99% of some type of eatery quite empty and their forlorn crews desperately hoping for patrons to walk in ....... only one selling at 20% discount and free flow of drinks and additional toppings got Q and this is bcos it was "purposely" created (as sitting capacity is abt 20 or less) & the Q outside during evening peak peak is never more than the numbers sitting inside with average waiting/ turn over time of about 30 mins ....... like that some kongcum think really got (genuine) Q arh .......???
19.17 am my Wife Nephew also like that very strong pap supporter and a real asshole too
Time will come When they roam the streets, see whether they still PAP supporters.
So many restaurants with their staff so poor thing stand outside and give brochures of their menus and chasing after customers. Now becomes part of their job scopes.
Lee Sian Tao said let me give notice in next parliamentart meeting, we gonna increased our MPs allowances to fifty thousand. The good work done by us.
How can Chee chiak earned 40k a month and my MP just 16K.??
We must based our remuneration on the top 10% Professionals. Now the Hawkers are the top professionals.
LTK and his merry men and woman will keep mum forever.
Another story.Now the poor Thomas Chua who criticised the dead hero TP is now in.big news as hunted down by the Men in blue for what shop lifting.
DONT play play unless you are prepared to chow low. They will hunt you down for insulting them.
But for how long?
RB
For as long as the opposition is not ready to be govt and so majority voters will continue to vote for PAP as govt.
For as long as Hong Lim Park is quiet and peaceful.
And even if there is a protest organised by Roy, Gilbert or whichever Sinkies who dare to and is stupid enough to organise, could not attract more than 100 people.
AnonymousJune 05, 2017 10:14 am
>>>Showflats still flooded by buyers.<<<
>>>Where is the economic slow down Where?<<<
Balls to yew, anon 10.14am!
As of 2017, more than 30,000 condos are empty.
And the numbers are building up.
Go URA website to check!
Which showflats packed with crowds? Care to share?
Able to show any number from URA website on property tansactions in the past 36 months???? (To support your day dreaming claim???)
In recent months, secondary market sellers are slashing their prices (deeply) to get their properties sold with many having put their properties in the market for more than 12 to 24 months .......
>>>COE still overscribed. A piece of paper......around $50,000.00!<<<
Yewr eyes pasted stamps or pasted thick envelops?
Strip out Uber's and Grab's demand in the past 2 years and see what happen ........
>>>Just look around us....everything like ok leh! Everything like very calm. Everyone is still smiling.<<<
Those are the most "stupid statements" ever in terms of arriving at some economic conclusions!
Why?
For those who been to Zimbawe or Ethiopia recently, the people there also smiling ...... in fact more widely than sinkies can ever be ...... And "plenty of calm" too & " everything like ok leh!" ......
But are they really ok beneath the facile surface?
Virgo49 June 05, 2017 10:52 am
//DONT play play unless you are prepared to chow low. They will hunt you down for insulting them.//
Virgo49, have they hunted Yew down already?
One khongkumkia always sarka them but see what happen?
Now "chow low" as yew said to his hometown le ......?
Either way probably end up as "dead meat" ......?
Would MOM set up an unit to sieve out all these fakes that are stealing our jobs? I would volunteer to head such a unit if given a chance.
RB 9:18 am
RB, why you did not volunteer to join the Sinkie opposition to contest last GE 2015?
And perhaps could also make it a big election issue on all these fakes that are stealing our jobs?
Had you done so, and given your talent in being able to expose PAP govt to be so incompetent and screw up that they are, the outcome of GE 2015 could have been very different.
So will you want to give it a try in GE 2020, assuming you are still strong and healthy in body and mind till then?
After all, Mahathir is doing it for Matland even at 92!
Virgo49,
Heard from some others such as one patrait in msn that many oldies such as yewrself & some other oldie beans in msn were former ARDENT supporters but what happen now?
Also like that, kpkb eveLEEday?
Dont yew know how sugar canes and oranges are "treated" after they are juiced thoroughly (& made use of until dry dry)?
Dunno who this geh angmo Jonathan is but I guess it's another shit stirrer.
If what he claim is true ,your godfather says by 1991 but he never mention after 1991.
After 1991 we shd let the new generation of leaders do what they think best.
The name Sien Loong means Prominent Dragon.Prominent mean he has to think out of the box that other seow long or whatever long cannot think of.
With him around at least you can talk freely in internet.This shows he's not petty .If it's before 1991,many oredi lakopi daily without access to internet.
Those who think can make the country betterer,go join them instead of whining.Your PM is always ready to listen.
LKY said what he said to appease the kongcums. Nothing wrong with that. It's just good politics.
Right now, millions of Sinkies are enjoying fat pay & big bonuses. Roll out $1M 2-bedroom condos and thousands will be lining up to buy. Everybody is flushed with cash and money coming out from the ears. Only a minority of losers with no money and everyday KPKB.
Manufacturing & electronics sectors are booming for 1 year already. Most Sinkies are employed in these sectors or supporting customers in these sectors. As for construction & property, govt is stabilizing by calling more govt construction tenders and releasing more land sales. Oil & gas basically just hentak kaki with stagnant but high salaries. The only sector dying is marine & offshore, but these mostly foreigners, so no need to bother so much.
Next GE you will see the 70% mark being retained and even 75% is no problem.
Anon 11.25
You are absolutely right, many oldies are Ardent supporters of the PAP and many still are. We are however not in the group of squeezed sugar canes with no more juice to be discarded.
We benefited the most from the old PAP but you young dies and now still some oldies are still clinching to the straws of today's dud leaders.
Pathetic! We oldies especially our Great RB been trying to wake you up and save your motherland and your jobs and.your families..But the young dies seemed to be more Dafts than us being more.so called educated.
Tak Sai chek! Melayu Chapkap Sobong.Bodohs.
We now Kpkb .to wake you smug alecs from been.an.endangered species and.you are an ungrateful lot's that deserved to be crucified.
MOT, when Sinkie land sinks, I be chow lor to my sanctuary.
Right now, millions of Sinkies are enjoying fat pay & big bonuses.
12:06 pm
PAP knows even better, through their IRAS data.
That's why it is not for nothing that PAP got 70% votes in GE 2015, u know.
Yes, 75% next GE should be no problem for PAP, as long as the opposition is about the same or worse than during last GE.
I foresee politicians like Tan Jee Say, Goh Meng Seng or even Lim Tean not contesting next GE, if they are smart enough to realise that they will lose for sure, never mind being Oxford or Cambridge U grads. Because they, including RB or even you and me, can only win when they join PAP.
There is nothing wrong with the oldies supporting the PAP of the past. In those days, the party, the govt and the people were one, have the same dream and working for it together.
Today the oldies know that things are different. The PAP have their own dreams and the people have their own, the Twains shall never met.
It is important to know what things were and what things are, just like knowing China has changed and is surging forward as a newly rich nation and those clinging to an evil Empire that has run out of ideas other than going to wars.
When you people give a single political Absolute, Unfettered, Unchallengable, Unfair Advantages, Unfair Superior Playing Field and Total Freedom to Pass ANY Law in Parliament, what do you think the outcome of every Election Results would be?
Think, think deeper and longer (longer tetm).
Correction: should read as "a single political party",
It is important to know what things were and what things are, just like knowing China has changed and is surging forward as a newly rich nation...
RB 1:46 pm
Tiok.
But then China has no Microsoft, Google or Facebook which Sinkies can enjoy and use in this internet age.
And given a choice, Sinkies prefer to be students in American universities, not China universities.
And rebellious Sinkie teenager Amos seek asylum in America, not China.
Why SIA don't have China built commercial planes and have to buy American planes?
Why SAF buy American fighter jets and weapons, not China made ones?
And why I don't see many Americans come to Sinkieland to work, unlike those from China, India, Myanmar and Philippines?
And last but not least, why I never heard of Sinkies who emigrated to China?
And given a choice, Sinkies prefer to be students in American universities, not China universities.
2:08 pm
Very tiok. LHL's son went to MIT, not Tsinghua University, China's top university. After that went to work in Google, and not a China company.
Some more during LKY time, Singapore invested so much in Suzhou Industrial Park, hoping to make money or even to have a mini Singapore in China for Sinkies. But you know what is the outcome lah. The next project, the Tianjin Eco city, u also know lah.
So China very good for Singapore meh? Any wonder why LHL not happy?
If you give me absolute power to do what I want, don't you think I will ensure everything election result turns out in my favour?
How I do it?
There are 9 ways to cook an egg but there are unlimited ways that an election result can be fixed.
Just tell me how many percentage points you need. That's all.
Quite Easily Done!
In today's paper, an American billionaire said, don't look for a pie in the sky when the pie is beside you. He is putting his money in China, not in America or in Singapore.
How many people are fleeing Singapore compares to people leaving China in percentage term?
Why somebolee so unhappy not invited to BRI forum if China not good?
The current PAP is the rainchild of the Old PAP and the Oldies who supported the Old Pappies and the Young Pappies now.
However, being stoic Oldies, the Oldie supporters of PAP believe they are right been PAP adulators.
MANY OF THE OLDIE PAP Supporters actually frown at China and THE CHINESE LANGUAGE, THEY
SUPPORTED THE MURDERS OF VERNACULARS BY THE HORRIBLE MONSTER.
THEY WORSHIPPED NOT ONLY THE ANGMOS, THEY FEEL PROUD TO BE PSEUDO ANGMOS DAMNSELVES!
Lol....
Notice that most senior citizen hawkers using engrish now?
Very the POWDERFUL LEH.
OLDIES DAMNSELVES DAMN
PROUD THEY WRITE IN INGRISH AND SPEAK LIKE ALSATIAN, SORI! LIKE
AUSTRALIAN.
WHY ARE SOME SINKIE CHINESE NOW PROUD TO BE CHINESE WHEN THEY FROWN ON THE PRCs when they were young?
Because now PRC is very rich and strong, so they follow the Flow.
FUCK YOU ALL WHO CHANGE DIRECTION JUST TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SITUATION.
MY SALUTE TO AMOS YEE AND ALL THE YOUNG FREEDOM FIGHTERS.
SIM CHIN BOO(NRIC NAME)
aka
patriot
'....is the BRAINCHILD........
to correct rainchild...'
My apology!
patriot
Do tune in to the Chinese Language Broadcasting Stations in Sin.
You will find that they are peppered with so much DJs speaking in ingrish and broadcasting
ingrish songs that one might think one is tunning to the Wrkng Station.
BUT,
no, they are just rojak stations that are being bastardize.
patriot
Wrong to correct
wrkng
in my above post.
My apology.
patriot
Just go through those Chinese actor or actress and tell me how many do not have angmo names.
Jack nio,Joe tey,mark ching....
This is how our younger generation sinkies are influenced by these
Bay Lin chor.
One way is to stop listening to these station.
How come today I still proudly call myself Goh Ah Gong.
But too late.It's oredi a trend.
Go childcare oso can no longer find one with proper name.
Throw one ping pong ball from high building oso either hit Robert tan or Christina soh or whatever.
And my Lao hero Virgo Seet...alamak,hope he dun go Malacca and turn everyone to be angmokia:-)
Melakans very few yellow bananas, no worries. Still like 70s nostalgia. Speak Mandarin and Bahasa Malaysia more than Eng Kok.
Unless those in.commercial activies dealing with trading businesses,insurance,housing, conveyance even punctuated with Bahasa Malaysia.
Not like Singapore kan tangs. Channel Five and Channel News Asia not completely bananas.
Newsreaders with Chinese Surnames but Ang Moh looks.
See the Channel Five Clowns crawling with black ants that speaks like Americans and a few Chinkees bananas trying to act cute with their nonsensical looks.
Bay how kor!!
Now even sinkie Malay wants to act as English men and critise their own kind and kena barred from their stations.
SERVED THEM RIGHT.
Virgo49 June 05, 2017 7:57 am
>>>>>They knew most bar or clubs goers after more more with drinks and can tip.the ladies of the night's hundreds of dollars .....<<<<<<
Ye ......? So Tua Kung arh?
Is it not most lao ah pek pattern is before pay $ take out one stack of RM1 notes, then stick out their right THUMB, put into their mouth, touch their tongue to make their right THUMB (as) wet (as possible with their saliva), then the RM1 notes one pc one pc count ...... scared got two pcs (of the RM1 notes) stuck together, then probably stop at 3 or 4 for tipping ......? (= RM4)?
Ye .....? Got so Tua Kung Lao Ah Pek tip a few hundred RMs?
Virgo, those few hundred RMs tipping by Lao Ah Pek must be a figment of your imagination ......?
The reality is most will dampen their thumb on their tongues and count every pc of RM1 note very precisely (as if each pc is Sin$10,000)?
Bro, you be surprised. Malaysian Chinese are big spenders even though they are paying at par the charges at their currencies unlike Sinkie ah peys even though our exchange is not one to three last ten years.Only two.plus or higher.
You go and observe table games at Casinos especially the Roulette and the Cards games..
One round they can throw three thousand ringgit on the table. Do not think they are our poorer cousins. They dared earn and spend. Sinkies lost 3K ringgit Eqv ours 1 k in three days holidays at Genting will grumbled for one week and have to take extra strong pink pandol.
Most Sinkies are mostly sucked dry by the PAP and have not much spare cash for these ventures.
Those who played big are using company's funds in advance for recovery of lost bets and am. prepared to eat or tau Png.
We in younger days still got much disposable incomes in melaka Karo lounges throw 50 to 100 ringitt just for the ladies sit in. Also on the laps and wriggle wriggle. aiyo just sin 40 to 50 lah. NOT enough for tin of milk powder.
After which hai gongs like Agongkia at porridge stalls to be hustle. The collaboration between the ladies of the night's with stall owners. If not they Said you got no strengths for actions. Waste monies.
So not all cheap skates 28 dollars smash shop.
can not be khongcums! msm always reports very positive and promising.
Virgo 49,
I totally agreed. In sg we go to the karaoke here the one that provide young PRC girls, they are very expensive and you can see sinkies face turn white when calling for bill and time to tip the girls. In those places only can touch here and there a bit, squeeze a bit of the twin peaks that is all but the tips for each girls run to hundreds. Sinkies very pai seh in front of our Malaysian members as not much cask in disposable income.
When we visited our members in matland, you can see they very generous and took out stack of cash to tip. They are cash rich as their government did not suck them dry.
Michael Tan
Chairman
Singapore Kuda Club
Vice President
Kuda
Asia Pacific Kuda Club
Vice Preseident
International Kuda Club
All gov suck their people dry. Which one is not? Its all a MLM scheme. A few are making monies but the majority are just suckers.
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