6/21/2012

I am not PRC



I read this article about a Sinkie complaining that a PRC waitress would speak to him in Mandarin for his orders. This is not the first time Sinkies felt offended when spoken to in Mandarin. Am I surprised? Is speaking to another Chinky, oops, I mean Sinkie Chink, in Mandarin an offensive thing? Isn’t Mandarin one of the four official languages of this country?

But I can understand why Sinkie Chink did not like PRC Chink to think that he is also a Chink. There is a difference of course. Sinkie Chinks are westernized, modern, sophisticated, with good manners, unlike PRC Chinks.

I think I have a solution for this agonizing dilemma faced by some Sinkie Chinks. And since it is not possible to ask the Sinkie Chinks to dye his skin white, have his slit eyes rounded, or his flat Chinkie nose sharpened, the next easiest thing to do is to wear a head band to say, ‘I am a Sinkie Chink.’ Then all the PRC Chinks would have no problems telling them apart and may take the hint to speak to them in English, the mother tongue of Sinkie Chinks.

And they should wear the head band overseas too as the PRC Chinks are everywhere, and richer too, driving Ferraris and Lamboghinis in New York and London. The Europeans are finding them so common and so numerous that any Sinkie Chink could be mistaken to be a poorer version of the PRC Chinks. So bring the head bands and wear it everywhere to be noticed and to be known.

63 comments:

Anonymous said...

How could the angmo who told Abraham Lincoln to go back to China know that Abraham Lincoln was a sinkie and not a PRC?

Anonymous said...

the angmo would know if abraham lincoln wears the headband. but he will still tell him to go back to china. but abraham lincoln should say 'singapore is in china'. this would confuse him and defuse the situation. so no more punch ups in the jamban.

Spore Chinky said...

excuse me, not all chinese sporeans speak mandarin fluently. We prefer to speak in english and are very comfortable with our chinese identity. We dont need mandarin to make us more chinese.

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

Hi Spore Chinky, welcome to the blog.

Speaking Mandarin, an official language is a right of everyone and not an offensive thing to do. Mandarin is also spoken in Parliament.

Any Sinkie that cannot speak Mandarin can always tell the other party to speak in English, Malay or Tamil. There is nothing to be offended about.

Anonymous said...

redbean makes a point.

To the white man, all Chinese are chinks.
We are not "purified" just because we are Singaporeans and blindly support our Millionaires-In-White.

But I disagree with redbean here.
BOTH English and Mandarin have equal status as our official languages.

The waitress was not wrong to initiate conversation in Mandarin.
The Sinkie should then just say "as the customer, I prefer to carry out this conversation in English."
The Sinkie is well within his rights as a customer to insists his preferred language.

If competent, the waitress should then be able to switch to English in response to the customer's request.

But this type of social interactions & friction is beyond experience of our Millionaires (I mean Ministers) who formulate our social policies.

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

nora:
June 21, 2012 at 10:40 am nora(Quote)
Although I understand mandarin, I refuse to answer them when they speak to me. In fact on my last visit to the Polyclinic, this chinese aunty spoke to me in mandarin telling me to get the Q ticket etc. I stared and her and told her loudly, oblivious to the crowd, that this is Singapore not China, why are you speaking to me in Mandarin. She had the audacity to say “you never tell me you don’t understand.” So now are we supposed to inform them that we don’t speak mandarin before they speak to us. What in the world is Singapore coming to.

The above is a comment in TRE. Yes, I am wondering whatt the world is Singapore coming to when speaking an official language is taken as an insult or an offensive thing?

What are the four official languages of Singapore? I know, English, Malay, Tamil and Singlish.

Anonymous said...

Didn't they say Sinkies are daft? Need any proof?

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

Singapore is a bilingual country and its citizens are supposed to know two languages, English and mother tongue. For the Malays it will be English and Malay, Indians, English and Tamil, for Eurasians, English and English or any other language of choice, and for the Chinese, yes English and Singlish.

Afganistan said...

You should be ashamed out yourself if you cannot speak Mandarin in Singapore. you should either wear a Sinkie Chinks head band or covert your race to Sinkie Chink from Chinese.

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

Haha, nice one Afganistan. And welcome to the blog.

Anonymous said...

RB, a language is a tool to facilitate communication between two parties. A chicken and a duck would not be able to communicate if both speak its own lingo.

A sensible person will find a common language so that two persons can talk and understand each other. It is extremely rude, nasty and arrogant not to speak to another person when you can but insist on the other person to speak to you in a language that he can't.

Hooligans. All the education has been wasted on such conceited fools.

patriot said...

Me am actually making life difficult for some in Sin too.

I used to and will be doing it for a long time to come.

Whenever and wherever I have to communicate, I will always request another Chinese anywhere to communicate with me in Chinese(Mandarin/Dialects). And if they cant, I will try my best to communicate with them to their comfort. And if still cannot get the message across, use sign language or give up.

Anyway, I was intrigued very much when Michael Jackson bleached himself. Dont know why just like why Asians change the colours of their hairs and eyes.

Or

speak with Western Accents.

patriot

jjgg said...

Really RB?...
what if...
Mandarin is used by service staff at Ritz Carlton/4 seasons/St Regis
what if.....
school teachers teach maths in mandarin?
would u trash emails written in mandarin/Tamil/Malay or try to get it translated..

Easier to say...fuck it...I'm going somewhere else to eat....hehehe

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

Hi jjgg,

The service outlets will have their own standards to maintain. If they are serving international customers, they will have to train their staff to speak many foreign languages. It is a different issue.

Even then, a PRC Chink in Regis or Ritz would by nature attempt to speak to another Chink in a language she thought would be appropriate. She might be naive to think that not all Chinks can or like to speak the language or refuse to speak Mandarin as a matter of pride.

Here is a case of a Sinkie Chink feeling offended when a PRC Chink spoke to him in Mandarin, and he could do so but refused to. Even if he chose not to speak in Mandarin, he could speak in English without feeling offended.

This is a silly incident when someone felt offended because the other party spoke to him in a language he detested, and worst, an official language of the country? Can you believe that?

Anonymous said...

//Me am actually making life difficult for some in Sin too. I used to and will be doing it for a long time to come. Whenever and wherever I have to communicate, I will always request another Chinese anywhere to communicate with me in Chinese(Mandarin/Dialects). And if they cant, I will try my best to communicate with them to their comfort. And if still cannot get the message across, use sign language or give up.//

i think you are taking it too far, patriot. shouldn't do such things. if a non-chinese speaking person is serving you, you should just carry on speaking to him in english since u can communicate in english. don't make other people's life difficult.

patriot said...

Dear Anon;

'I will always request another Chinese anywhere to communicate with me in Chinese(Mandarin/Dialects)'

Request is the catch word and more importantly is another Chinese or Chinese looking person.

Most importantly is that me will try to use the others' language.

Thank You very much for the Interaction.

patriot

WL said...

Actually redbean, this issue has been around even before the mainland chinese came along. Remember in the past, many english-educated chinese felt superior to our chinese-educated ones. Some of them were really offended when spoken to in mandarin or dialects. They did not want to be mistaken as "chinese helicopters".

The way I see it, it could be superiority complex and/or a reflection of the resentment towards too many mainland chinese being here. But perhaps we should try to do what Rodney King (God bless his soul)said: "Can we all get along?"

Anonymous said...

@Afganistan
There are countless Singaporean Chinese who do not speak Mandarin but speak their own dialects, Hokkien, Teochew, Cantonese, Hainanese, Hakka. But does it mean they are not Chinese just because they do not or do not choose to speak Mandarin? Some of these people are more Chinese than you seem to think. Is it shameful to speak your own dialect? Having said that I am not saying that I advocate dialects for communication among Chinese because many Chinese don't speak or even understand their own dialects. So the best thing to do is not to force those who do not speak Mandarin if they do not want to. Instead, why not use a common language, i.e. English which every race/community understand as someone here has rightly suggested. This will prevent Mandarin speaking Chinese and dialect speaking Chinese from denigrating each other. Ability to speak Mandarin alone does not make you a Chinese anymore than the ability to speak and write English makes you an Englishman! In any case, the way Singaporeans speak Mandarin is not really Chinese as far as the Chinese in PRC are concerned. In fact it is a source of amusement to them if I may say!

Matilah_Singapura said...

Aiyah redbean, Again too sensitive.

Every small thing make fuck noise. For what?

Anonymous said...

Fuck the people who cannot communicate with their grandparents/uncles/aunties
and oldies around them.
Chapchengs(fake ones) are not
despised for no reason.

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

Try to read the original post and the comments in TRE. The author assumed a sense of superiority over PRC and did not want to be mistaken as one. That is fair in a way, if he is really superior. The latest, PRC Chinks just demonstrated that they have mastered space technology, and is the second largest economy in the world. What have Sinkies achieved other than gambling with other people's money?

Related to the air of superiority is that PRC Chinks are ill mannered, uncouth, unsophisticated, and maybe commies, detestable species. I also don't like the uncouth and ruffian style of the PRC Chinks. But I can understand, after several centuries of poverty, many have lost the finese of living in style and poise. The new rich are mostly of peasant origins. But they will learn to be refined in a generation or so when they continue to acquire wealth and learn the fine art of living. We were like them too in the 50s and 60s.

I just saw the video clip of the Sinkie Chink auntie quarreling with a young Sinkie Chink and you can see how uncouth and ill mannered Sinkie Chinks are, especially the older generation.

What I think was silly was for the author to take it out on a waitress for trying to speak to him in Mandarin, to be feel offended forgetting that Mandarin is our official language. And to stamp his uncouth and arrogant character, he refused to speak a language that he knew and demanded the other party to speak a language probably she would have to struggle.

This kind of unreasonableness is poor taste, bad manners, idiotic to say the least, nothing better than the PRC Chinks. This PRC Chink is of humbler background, that's why she is here as a waitress. And this superior and well educated Sinkie Chink thought it was smart of him to look down on her.

Anonymous said...

Well, this is what that damned PaPigs called for Sinkies to integrate into others' culture. If they come to our country not able to speak English, then too bad for our non-chinese speaking Sinkies who just either have to start learning chinese or not be served by those chinese speaking PRCs.

Anonymous said...

i'm anon 11.48. sorry patriot. i did not read your post properly.

Anonymous said...

if u r a chinese/indian/malay and u r fluent in your mother tongue and u refuse to speak in your mother tongue to a person of your own race who can only speak in your mother tongue, then u r a snooty, snobbish bastard who looks down on your own race and language and who make other people's life difficult. u can be snooty or snobbish for all i care but don't make other people's life difficult. you deserved to be condemned.

Anonymous said...

No problem with me Dear Anon, it is good and nice to have interaction that are sincerely put forth,

Thank You once again.

patriot

Matilah_Singapura said...

Eh harlow, post link lah. Make the video lagi viral!

Epic lah. Ah Lian -- well done! (I'd like to buy her dinner) Aunty -- fuck spider lah! The worst role model ever! Chia lat if your mother in law like dat!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IwvNRKqldyk

Anonymous said...

Matilah_Singapura adds much spices to make reading here more interesting.

Kudos to him!

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

Great video and great Ah Lian for standing up to uncouth and ill mannered Sinkie Chink.

And yes, this soi cowboy has a lot of fans. He can be very interesting when he is smoking pot. But stay away from toddy okay.

Anonymous said...

Dear Mr. Chua, You are a Singaporean (I think) Chinese and so am I. Why do you use a disparading or derogatory term, "chink" to refer to us Chinese as used by some caucasians if they want to belitte us Chinese?
Or am I too sensitive? Likewise, there are also derogatory terms for Indians, Malays, etc which shouldnt be mentioned, not to say written.

Chink (chngk)
n. Offensive Slang
Used as a disparaging term for person of Chinese birth or descent.

-----------------------------------
[Probably alteration of Chinese.]disparaging
adjective contemptuous, damaging, critical, slighting, offensive, insulting, abusive, scathing, dismissive, belittling, unfavourable, derogatory, unflattering, scornful, disdainful, defamatory, derisive, libellous, slanderous, deprecatory, uncomplimentary

Anonymous said...

only a nigger can call another nigger a nigger

Matilah_Singapura said...

redbean, please lah. I'm not in uni anymore. If I smoked pot now I'd probably suffocate and die lah. I'm only a few years away from having my drug of choice be cialis or viagra ;-)

Matilah_Singapura said...

I find it incredible that a society as developed and as cosmopolitan as Singapore still has so many individuals so hung up about race, racial superiority, inter-racial encounters, sub-divisions of race (Singapore Chinese vs PRC Chinese)...and those individuals are so quick to anger reacting to the slightest perceived innuendo.

Asian niggers :-)

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

Hi Anon 2:00,

Apologies if you feel slighted by the used of the word chink. I am rubbing it in to make the Chinks become more conscious of the fact that they are known as Chinks to the Westerners. By not saying it, many would still be ostriches hiding their heads in the ground.

Important thing is to come to terms with it and know who we are and know where we stand in the eyes of the pretentious foreigners and deluded white Chinks.

There are many derogatory terms being used against Chinese for centuries by the Westerners. I hope the western educated Chinks come to this realisation and take stock of themselves, remove the blinkers and see the real world.

It is hurting to be called names and be victims of such crass stereotyping and racial slurs. Chinese/Chinks have been held in disdain by the West for centuries and it is time to wake up and be themselves, as Chinese, be it Singapore Chinese, Malaysian Chinese or PRC Chinese.

If the Chinks are not even proud of themselves then they deserved to be called Chinks by the Westerners, to sneer behind their backs, like Abraham Lincoln.

Good that you feel offended and did not want to be called Chinks. The Chinks must not be passive victims and accept it quitely, and pretend that they are not called Chinks behind their backs.

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

And Matilah, please don't touch those things called viagra or cialis. Go try the more natural way, two capsules of Primrose Oil daily. I was told it would not work instantly but after a few months of intake, your general health will improve, so will your virility.

Matilah_Singapura said...

redbean, Thankfully, I'm not there yet ;-)

When the time comes, I'll be sticking to the science-based (evidence based) solution, not to some flaky ancient quackery created at a time when people were stupider than they are today.

Anonymous said...

When a cat pretends to be a tiger, it is going against nature. When one forgets about his/her nature of being and his/her origin, time for him/her to pretend to be god, superior in everything, even in idiocy.

Anonymous said...

Matilah_Singapura only needs an experienced one to perk him up.

Anonymous said...

Redbean and Matilah !

Pls stop being sooo friendly towards each other!

Its like walking into my parents making out! EEEEEuuuuuuu!!!

Give me back the bickering Redbean and Matilah !

Bengster :)

Anonymous said...

Good one bengster. lately the comment pages of mysgnews becoming too lovey-dovey.

Anonymous said...

TO RB,

China Rise and Americas Fall?

I think you will like it ...Honest commentary

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/chinas-rise-americas-fall/

To Matilah

How actually big pharma kills more ppl

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/chinese-melamine-and-american-vioxx-a-comparison/

Now let the bickering begin :) i m hungry for mind fucks

Bengster

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

Ha Bengster,

Matilah and me have been fighting for more than 10 years I think. But it is all about differences in opinion, nothing personal.

All bloggers should be friends, disagree with views, no issue.

Matilah will show his fangs when he has a round of toddy, don't worry.

Matilah_Singapura said...

Yah kay-poh kia motherfuckers, don't worry.

BTW, I hate toddy, unless it is the London variety. The local toddy stinks like a sardine's cunt.

Matilah_Singapura said...

Bengster, nothing is all good or all bad. Big pharma has benefited mankind, but it is run by humans so you are going to get the whole gamut of "human nature" expressed.

If you cannot think critically, then chances are you are going to get taken for a fool with alarming frequency. Even the most assiduous skeptics and critical thinkers get duped. Scientists with multiple PhD's get fooled. No guarantees there. But you do increase you chances of "bullshit detection" if you are a skeptic.

At least when you are wrong, you can trace backwards to the cause of your errors, because the thinking PROCESS has a method to it.

agongkia said...

I still dun understand what is wrong by being called chink.chinky ,Chng etc.
I am a proud Chinky.,love to be called one.
I even taught the angmo to add a word Kar in front,if they pronounce chink wrongly as chng....Kar Chng.
When anyone ask me why am I not having a Angmo name,I even suggest to them to call me Chinky.,if they want.

Anonymous said...

Once a Chinese couple worked very hard and saved all they could to send their eldest son overseas to study medicine. Eventually the son graduated as a doctor and returned home to set up his own practice with some financial help from his parents. Naturally his parents were very proud of his son's achievement. Then one day his father went to his clinic for consultation. His father was shocked and nearly fainted when after the consultation his son issued him a bill for payment. Worst he felt ashamed to acknowledge his own father to others. This was the last straw that broke the old couple's heart especially the father's.

Now what actually happened when the young man went overseas to pursue his dream. Though he had achieved success as a doctor but he had lost the compass of his life. He was so western oriented that he not only lost his original identity and culture but also sold his soul, dignity and self respect to the devils. He told his father that he had to pay him the consultation fee because he had to pay the tax.

This young man is what Premier Zhou En Lai once called a prominent Singapore minister ' a banana man ' because that minister outwardly appeared to be Chinese but his brain, his thinking and his culture in him are white and Western oriented. Similarly many Chinese who go to the West to study have been brainwashed and deculturalised that they think they are also 'Ang Moh' and thus they despised their own kind. If only they know the history of how evil and cruel the 'Ang Mohs' or
Westerners are to Chinese the world over would they ever wake up to the shame of identifying themselves closely with the West.

What can Singapore expect when many of its ministers are really super 'Banana Man' and may be also LC or ramrod man?

Southernglory1

Anonymous said...

Some S'pore citizens would no doubt still remember the day around 1980+ when a PAP high-flyer Dr Tan Hui Heng Augustine,economist humiliated then PAP MP Mr Chan Chee Seng for speaking in Mandarin in Singapore parliament.
http://www.eld.gov.sg/elections_past_parliamentary1980.html

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

That was a bad joke.

patriot said...

So bad that it still stinks today and many many more years to come

patriot

Gintai_昇泰 said...

Wearing a headband to tell the whole world that "Iam a Sinkie!" whether in Sinkie or overseas? What a langgar idea! Do we have to resort to this.

Anonymous said...

Or else who will know he is a Sinkie when he looks every inch a Chink? Does he really thinks the world knows what a Sinkie looks like?

Anonymous said...

Chinese as in generalized, but we are not Chinese. We are Jin/Tang/Han People - the middle people. Chinese refer to the Northerner. We should not even speak Mandarin in the first place. Use back Han Language like our ancestor did. Japanese and Korean writing still retain our tone which we can identify in the dramas.

Anonymous said...

I get you totally. Its worse when singaporeans themselves mistake you to be a PRC just because you have sharper facial features!!! And when you are male, 30 and have darker skin they think you are one of those PRC construction workers!!!! If the official language in Singapore is english just speak english lah!!! And the PAPPIES must NOT BE ELECTED THE NEXT ROUND!!!!! These PRCs should scram back!!!!

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