It’s probably time to do away with
this wayang Elected President thing. Why? From President Ong onwards, we never
had any Presidents, Elected or Appointed who dare to ask probing questions of
the Government of the day.
With impending changes that will
make further mockery of this institution of an Elected President, let’s not
fool ourselves that it’s for Singapore good.
Then what? No symbolic Head of
State? What State is my retort! Aren’t we a place that belongs to Everyone? I
didn’t say it. One PM did and he is still the new PM!
The above is a comment by a blogger
in TRE. Lye is very cynical and suspicious about the purpose of this ‘wayang
Elected President thing’. What was Lye Khuen Way saying in this sentence, ‘From
President Ong onwards, we never had any Presidents, Elected or Appointed who
dare to ask probing questions of the Government of the day.’? These Presidents
cannot be rogues right? Everyone is an honourable man, high net worth, with
plenty of money, ‘chiat buay leow’, how can they be rogues? Not asking probing questions is not a
condition to be a rogue. And when
everything is fine, country so well run, all the reserves so well taken care
of, what is there to ask? And when the govt is making all the right policies
and supported by the people, elected by the people, lagi no reason and no question
to ask. Like that how to blame them?
There is no point asking simple
questions or silly questions just to be put on record that one actually spoke up
right? The president is not like MPs,
need to speak up in parliament or to ask questions to be seen to be
working. There is no need to waste
people’s time asking questions that meant nothing or take too long to
answer. As the most dignified person in
office, the President cannot anyhow open mouth to ask question when there is no
question to be asked. To be presidents, all must be very smart and know when to
ask questions when they know something is wrong.
The impending changes must be good,
how can it be a mockery? Have faith in the popularly elected govt to do the
right thing for the good of the country. Cannot anyhow cast doubts and demand
an explanation like asking opposition politicians to explain everything. An
elected govt is not the same as opposition parties. Everything tip top, everyone honourable and
integrity cannot be doubted. That is why the people trusted them and elected
them to be the rulers of the country.
Anyone knows what is a rogue president?
76 comments:
Anyone knows what is a rogue president?
RB
The answer is the party that can win elections to become govt will decide what is a rogue president, or whether or not to even have any president.
Once they decide, everybody will know what is, or rather what is not, a rogue president, or whether there will even be a president.
jiat leow bee?
Cambridge dictionary definition of rogue:
"behaving in ways that are not expected or not normal, often in a way that causes damage: a rogue"
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/rogue
So the next question:
Who decides what is "not normal"?
PAP or WP?
Singaporean voters or Singapore parliament?
Nominated Members of parliament or NCMP?
appointed grassroots leaders or elected Members of Parliament?
Who watches the watchmen?
Who guards the guardians?
indeed a very very very interesting article........
but please some "face" leh........
hahahaha..................
indeed a very very very interesting article........
but please GIVE some "face" leh........
hahahaha..................
The Oxford dictionary definition of an oligarchy:
"A small group of people having control of a country or organization:
the ruling oligarchy of military men around the president
More example sentences
1.1 A country governed by an oligarchy: he believed that Britain was an oligarchy
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/oligarchy
Definition of Oligarchy from the Encyclopaedia Brittanica
Oligarchy, government by the few, especially despotic power exercised by a small and privileged group for corrupt or selfish purposes.
Aristotle used the term oligarchia to designate the rule of the few when it was exercised not by the best but by bad men unjustly.
In this sense, oligarchy is a debased form of aristocracy, which denotes government by the few in which power is vested in the best individuals.
Most classic oligarchies have resulted when governing elites were recruited exclusively from a ruling caste — a hereditary social grouping that is set apart from the rest of society by religion, kinship, economic ... (100 of 623 words)
http://global.britannica.com/topic/oligarchy
Definition of "plutocracy"
1 Government by the wealthy
More example sentences
1.1 A state or society governed by the wealthy: no one can accept public policies which turn a democracy into a plutocracy
More example sentences
1.2 An elite or ruling class whose power derives from their wealth: officials were drawn from the new plutocracy
@ February 17, 2016 9:52 am
The above definition of plutocracy came from the Oxford Dictionary
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/plutocracy
Collecting millions is the best job.
All prospective Presidential candidates must meet the following criteria (see below) from the Elections Department of Singapore.
Question:
The criteria is very stringent.
Who decided on the criteria?
How many Singaporeans would qualify?
Do you think the list of qualifying individuals would exceed even 50 Singaporeans?
Do you think USA's President Obama (before he became the American President) would qualify if he were Singaporean?
Do you think Indonesia's President Jokowi would qualify if he were Singaporean?
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http://www.eld.gov.sg/candidates_qualifications.html
QUALIFICATIONS FOR CANDIDATES
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For Presidential Election
A person is qualified to be a candidate for election as President if he:
is a citizen of Singapore;
is 45 years old and above on Nomination Day;
is registered as an elector in the current registers of electors;
is resident in Singapore on Nomination Day and has been so for a total period not less than 10 years;
is not subject to any of the disqualifications specified in Article 45 of the Constitution of the Republic of Singapore;
is not a member of any political party on the date of his nomination for election; and
has held office for a period of not less than 3 years in position of seniority and responsibility in the public or private sector as described below:
as Minister, Chief Justice, Speaker, Attorney-General, Chairman of the Public Service Commission, Auditor-General, Accountant-General or Permanent Secretary;
as chairman or chief executive officer of a statutory board to which Article 22A of the Constitution of the Republic of Singapore applies;
as chairman of the board of directors or chief executive officer of a company incorporated or registered under the Companies Act (Cap. 50) with a paid-up capital of at least $100 million or its equivalent in foreign currency; or
in any other similar or comparable position of seniority and responsibility in any other organization or department of equivalent size or complexity in the public or private sector which, in the opinion of the Presidential Elections Committee, has given him such experience and ability in administering and managing financial affairs as to enable him to carry out effectively the functions and duties of the office of President.
Haha.......
Talking about Oligarchy, Plutocracy and
Sincrazy after tge General Election?
Johnny comes a little too lately.
And
we have citizens that idolize the Godfather of Sin like a deity.
DAFT said the Godfather when he was breathing and DAFT the Sinkies remain after he, the Godfather, turned to dirt and dust
How not sink when tge tiny rock is laden with DAFTS?
There is a saying: "Tell another dozen lies just to cover up a lie"
No skeletons to hide. Have no fear.
So must made sure fire proof. One small blunder everything exposed.
So in order to sleep peacefully for next five years must have one that does not expose your shortcomings.
So must go all out to make sure that no Rogue kay poh ask probing questions.
National Service and the Presidency
are all wastes of time, money and resources whuch shoukd be put to
better uses.
Or
is there nothing better to do?
Oligarchy? Plutocracy? Benevolent dictatorship?...so what?
Question is: does it work in the Singapore context?
Hell yeah.
Since the people voted for it, they get the government they deserve!
Secret Tunnel! Secret Tunnel!
Don't know to believe or not.
Referring to the article in the ASS today about a secret TUNNEL.
Worth reading! Worth reading!
Cheers.
In sincity, got two heads. The bottom small head and the top wear the big head. But top only big head hor. Big head, very small mouth. Small head, very very big mouth hole. Why like that? Coz small head got gun power can shoot shoot. Big head can suck and spit only. So cumning thinking power in small head. Small head think, big head spit so simple. If big head anyhow spit, small head put small gun in big head mouth and bang bang bang. Juiced, Finish. But for not anyhow spitting, be good and holy, big head earn $50millions is it like that cock say?
Marcos was collecting billions and not a rogue.
Yesterday, Dr Mahathir asked if the administration was part of a democracy when people who criticised it landed in trouble.
“The existing law is not being implemented properly. New laws are then formulated for another purpose and people get arrested and tried,” he said. “I know that during my time we had the ISA (Internal Security Act), but I did not use it to harass people who criticised me. Only when they did something to the country.
“If you criticise the government now, you are going to be detained, questioned and put on trial. If you can’t criticise, then where is the democracy?
“The law is applied differently depending on who you are. So, somebody has to say something. I have to say it because I want the country to have a good reputation. People ask me what has happened to your country? It’s shameful. All because of one man’s leadership.” THE MALAYSIAN INSIDER
To the people standing for elections to be the President of Singapore.
a. you must not be "rogue"
b. your heart must be pure
...................................
“.. they must serve residents “consistently and genuinely”, and not just to make a political statement. Your hearts must be pure. You must be here because you want to take care of residents and improve their lives.”
Chan Chun Sing
(MyPaper 27 July 2015).
pure like baby backside
How Is a New Pope Chosen? - The Pope chooses the Cardinals who elects the Pope
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When a pope dies or resigns, the governance of the Catholic Church passes to the College of Cardinals.
Cardinals are bishops and Vatican officials from all over the world, personally chosen by the pope, recognizeable by their distinctive red vestments.
Their primary responsibility is to elect a new pope.
http://www.usccb.org/about/leadership/holy-see/francis/how-is-a-new-pope-chosen.cfm
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@ February 17, 2016 10:58 am
" The Pope chooses the Cardinals who elects the Pope "
What about Singapore?
Who selects the people who work at our Elections Department?
After leaving politics in 2011, he missed the sense of satisfaction that he found in influencing the course of development in Singapore and being responsible for the lives of many people, he said.
"Public life gives you a big stage to act upon, which you don't get in the private sector," he said.
But it also allowed him to "switch off", as political life meant having to be responsive to the needs of constituents all the time.
"Politics is incessant and the pressure is continuous. Politics being a service industry, the customer is always right," he said.
Mr Yeo also recounted how Pope Francis sat in on one of the Vatican Council meetings and freely admitted he was dependent on the group to give him sound financial advice.
He was also struck by the pontiff's humility and said the Pope's moral values "are well anchored". He added that the inclusion of lay people in the Vatican Council was a first, and was an experiment in church governance that had the potential to make a great impact globally
Welcome to the Church of Sin
The majority of people who have nothing better to do than to go down to Hong Lim to hold hands and sing "We Shall Overcome" do not understand realpolitik.
All they can do it complain and seek to "change the world" because the world or their cuntry does not accord with their TEXTBOOK on political ideology and theory. And so they go to places like HLP and complain about "human rights" or some other made-up-shit. Note: "human rights" is made up shit. It never existed until some folks "created" it.
Consider the Middle East dictatorships, and all of them were corrupt and ruthless. However, there was relative peace (compared to now) when Assad, Ghadafi, Saddam Hussein and others running the show.
They had the required ruthlessness to keep the peace by keeping warring factions at bay (for the most part). Sunni vs Shia...uneasy peace, but peace nonetheless. Occasional there'd be a mass killing by poison gas or bio warfare. Islam vs the state: the dictators prevented too much religion from taking over all the ruling power.
Once these dictators were removed (Assad barely holding on), the religionists, like ISIS took over and ascended to power. Now we have a right royal mess...civil wars and ISIS, Suunis and Shias killing each other physically as well as economically (oil price dropping, thus oil revenues also falling)...god knows what else.
In Asia, the "strongmen" like Suharto, Marcos, Lee KY, Dr M, Park Chung-hee, Thaksin, Deng Xiaoping...all A-Number One Motherfuckers used whatever was necessary to keep the peace and ensure that market-capitalism could work and thus create the much needed wealth in the poorest region of the world.
Sure, people died, many locked up...but overall Asia did OK.
Realpolitik in action.
Fuck human rights. ;-)
What makes sinkies daft? Because they keep asking stupid questions. Not very bright people as you can tell
Is there a need for a rogue government and a president to do Sin in for good?
Think either one of them could cause problem.
So, to reduce the Danger of both causing or contributing to the Damage, Sin should do away with the Presidency. This shall reduce the Risk by 50% mathematically.
THE PEOPLE HAVE NO GUARANTEE THAT THE PRESIDENT WILL NOT WORK OR CONSPIRE WITH THE RULERS.
patriot
strongmen" like Suharto, Marcos, Lee KY, Dr M, Park Chung-hee, Thaksin, Deng Xiaoping...all A-Number One Motherfuckers used whatever was necessary to keep the peace and ensure that market-capitalism could work and thus create the much needed wealth in the poorest region of the world.
Sounds
Sounds like church to be :)
@ 1106:
>> Not very bright people as you can tell <
If that were so, at least they VOTED IN bright people. The PM is a maths genius. Not too many people in the world are as smart as Lee Jr.
Also look at the cabinet: many professionals, most of them top of their game...they have the OBJECTIVE PROOF to back up their achievements. Plus let's face it: Singapore rocks. Ask the myriad of European foreigners who have made Singapore their home. These folks come from 1st world cuntrees...many of those cuntrees are barely hanging onto their 1st world status as Euro states decline and Asian states---especially Singapore---are on the up and up.
It's ok to be dumb. As long as you get people smarter than you to do the important stuff, you'll be OK.
Coming from George...who works under Lee...wow...very pure hor lol
"It's ok to be dumb. As long as you get people smarter than you to do the important stuff, you'll be OK."
And so shall it be...lol
@ patriot:
>> Is there a need for a rogue government and a president to do Sin in for good? <<
Impossible, of course. The ENTIRE fate of any cuntree in history rests on its PEOPLE. The people get the cuntree and the government they deserve.
i.e. if your cuntree goes to shit, it is COLLECTIVELY the fault of the cuntree's people. Afterall, where do "rougue" governments and presidents come from?
Neither from heaven nor hell, nor outer space nor as monsters from the deep sea.
The president, government and everyone else in authority in a given cuntree comes from exactly the SAME STOCK OF PEOPLE as the people who CHOOSE them.
70% of people chose the present govt. Did they make the "right" choice? Hahaha...any which way you try to cut it, when you cast your-one-lousy-vote, you are voting for another Singaporean whom you think is like yourself...😂😂
Coming from the Keyboard of Matilah Singapura; it seems thay 70% are not too daft.
Or
are at least as wise as MS to choose a benign dictatorship in
Sin.
Hurray and Cheers.
patriot
"Politics is incessant and the pressure is continuous. Politics being a service industry, the customer is always right," he said.
is that so or has he broke the pontiff's commandment while sucking lollipop in church? lol
My apology
'thay' in my Above Post' to
be corrected to the.
patriot
Haha....
Georgie Boy, the Philosophical
chap is RELIGIOUSLY filial to the
PAP Regime as well as to his CHURCH and maybe the CASINOS IN SIN.
There are many like him in the Cabinet who are FIERCELY RELIGIOUS. Look at the Foreheads of some and the PREACHINGS FROM THE MANY GAPS BELOW THE FOREHEADS.
patriot
@ patriot 1122:
>> are at least as wise as MS to choose a benign dictatorship in
Sin. <<
Firstly, I'm definitely not "wise" ;-) secondly, I don't vote, so I didn't "choose". Personally I think "democracy" is overrated. I prefer maximum possible FREEDOM. Under democracy, you always will be at mercy of the majority, or in a representative democracy like Singapore, you are at the mercy of over-paid fuckers in parliament who as smart as they are, and as good for the cuntry as they are, will NEVER HAVE A SAY in in my life...I will do as I please :-)
The benign dictatorship suits Singapore, because CULTURALLY that's how the people think and feel COLLECTIVELY. The People WANT to have fellow Singaporeans from their own community to govern them with strong laws and leadership.
If you have little will or discipline, then in order to become "your best self", the smartest thing to do is to HIRE A COACH who will not give you chance, and tekan you until you become your best...I'm using a gym-training analogy here.
Similarly for the nation: if you don't have the will, nor the skills, nor the discipline to make your cuntry AWESOME, you vote in fellow citizens who are capable of whipping the cuntry and its people into shape. Before and after
Strongman has a lot of fans. To the fans, Strongman can do no wrong. He is their father. The godfather of SIN. You are blessed while others are cursed. So special. Sin so lucky.
PAP Government is paying a ceremonial president more than a executive president in the USA. Even a secretary of state or foreign minister in US has more power, responsibility and paid even lesser then the US president. The specific duties of the Secretary of State include:
[7]
wiki Organizes and supervises the entire United States Department of State and the United States Foreign Service.
Advises the President on matters relating to U.S. foreign policy, including the appointment of diplomatic representatives to other nations, and on the acceptance or dismissal of representatives from other nations.
Participates in high-level negotiations with other countries, either bilaterally or as part of an international conference or organization, or appoints representatives to do so. This includes the negotiation of international treaties and other agreements.
Responsible for overall direction, coordination, and supervision of interdepartmental activities of the U.S. Government overseas.
Providing information and services to U.S. citizens living or traveling abroad, including providing credentials in the form of passports and visas.
Ensures the protection of the U.S. Government to American citizens, property, and interests in foreign countries;
Supervises the United States immigration policy abroad.
Communicates issues relating the United States foreign policy to Congress and to U.S. citizens.
The original duties of the Secretary of State include some domestic duties, such as:[8]
Receipt, publication, distribution, and preservation of the laws of the United States
Preparation, sealing, and recording of the commissions of Presidential appointees
Preparation and authentication of copies of records and authentication of copies under the Department's seal
Custody of the Great Seal of the United States
Custody of the records of the former Secretary of the Continental Congress, except for those of the Treasury and War Departments
As the head of the United States Foreign Service, the Secretary of State is responsible for management of the diplomatic service of the United States. The foreign service employs about 12,000 people domestically and internationally, and supports 265 United States diplomatic missions around the world, including ambassadors to various nations. wiki
Spore voters please take note. Don't you think that our presidency is a institutional white elephant that should be overhauled to saved our money -yes WE the tax payers money !
In Asia, the "strongmen" like Suharto, Marcos, Lee KY, Dr M, Park Chung-hee, Thaksin, Deng Xiaoping...all A-Number One Motherfuckers used whatever was necessary to keep the peace and ensure that market-capitalism could work and thus create the much needed wealth in the poorest region of the world.
Sure, people died, many locked up, many live like slaves die like slaves without dignity...but overall Asia did OK.
Realpolitik in action.
Fuck human rights. ;-)
Gerorgie Boy now out in the open with sermons.
Maybe got notice to be the next to go to the Istana???
Another parrot??
There goes another taxpayers millions.
YeoAhSeng is popular and admired and respected by high society high educated high value people in Sin and around the world. They all think he is a great man with great mind. So when he talks, it is like god is talking to them. Except of course in Sin, he is second only to bruisedlee because he has the humility of the poke.
What's these arguing about?What's wrong with having president?
I for one hope to see something different.. more presidents in one term working together.
Maybe 8 presidents at one time sharing different tasks or overlooking different areas,internal,external...
Can share the 5 million dollars salary among the 8...
Oops..But a hungry man is an angry man.
Best is to give a annual income of 8.888 million each.When there are more opening of president posts,more Will be motivated to work harder and do a better job,benefiting Sinkies.
When presidents are happy,Sinkies can live happily without kachowlation.
President happy,Sinkies happy,Ah Long chio hee hee..8888...Huat Ah.
@ agongkia:
>> I for one hope to see something different.. more presidents in one term working together. <<
When America was first founded, the popularly elected president had virtually no political power. His (in those days, only males were allowed to vote) role was essentially ceremonial.
In order to prevent the president from going rogue, the vice president was the "loser" of the presidential election...i.e. the guy who came second, which means he's from the OPPOSING PARTY. Since neither man trusted the other, this was a great self-checking mechanism.
Over time, there was an EXPANSION of presidential powers. (Google that shit). Today the US president doesn't need the approval of congress or the senate...he can act unilaterally and issue "executive orders"---which although can be challenged in court (and they have) normally just goes through. IF you look at the history of the US presidency, you'll see how the NUMBER of executive orders issued by successive presidents has INCREASED.
OK, Singapore is not the USA; I use the example above to support my position that having a president chosen by popular vote is a very very BAD IDEA.
What PM Lee is proposing to allow parliament to choose the president is a far better and safer strategy not only good for the nation, but definitely for the people themselves.
Why do you think in China the president is chosen by their parliamentary body: the legislature known as the NPC or National People's Congress (全国人民代表大会)? Could it be because they know the risks of a directly elected presidency?
Directly elected populist presidents get up to all sorts of bad stuff...Suharto, Marcos....Google that shit on popularly elected presidents with full power...no good news there (unless you're a corrupt bugger in cahoots with the dictators...then you can make plenty money!)
Once a rogue president is in, the only way out is to kill the bugger (assassination) or mount a successful coup. (Unsuccessful coups will result in EXECUTING the perpetrators for sedition and treason).
I don't agree with the PAP on many issues. However, this one they have ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
Let parliament choose the president. The alternative will lead to eventual tyranny.
"Directly elected populist presidents get up to all sorts of bad stuff.."
February 17, 2016 7:58 pm
What about directly elected populist parliament?
Don't they also get up to all sorts of bad stuff?
In the event of a war ....
Will the President of Singapore die for Singaporeans?
Will the Workers' Party die for Singaporeans?
Will the PAP die for Singaporeans?
We Are Kanina is an apolitical movement that wants to ask: Will Singapore die for Singaporeans?
https://www.facebook.com/We-Are-Kanina-181648645537061
This Matilah is starting to talk cock. 'What PM Lee is proposing to allow parliament to choose the president is a far better and safer strategy not only good for the nation, but definitely for the people themselves.'
Wasn't this the system before they pretended to be clever and changed to the elected president and now acting ignorant and wanting to improve the elected president by going back to square one? Son rubbishing the bright idea of papa?
And how rogue can a 99% ceremonial elected president with the so called impt function to protect the reserves by himself, a one man hiding in the Istana? A US president can be a dangerous rogue because he has executive power and a team of state secretaries with him like the ministers under the PM. The US president is the Commander in Chief of the US Armed Forces.
Who does the elected president command, all the housekeepers, cooks, servants and aide de camp?
This elected president can become a dangerous rogue? Don't be stupid lah. He would be handcuffed and put behind bars before he opens his big mouth. Remember who was Ong Teng Cheong? He got power or not? He can become rogue?
Really khongcom pretending to be a smart ass.
Okokie....
The kind master is just trying to back up his khongcum discipleand went off tangent in doing so.
The US President is an apple and the President of Sin is an orange, but the disciple and his master consider both as same fruits. Technically not right but both are indeed fruits.
Must ask what are the disciple and master driving at, catch no ball how they consider having president and more presidents work better for them.
Many here must be scratching their heads and digging their brains.
This elected president can become a dangerous rogue? Don't be stupid lah. He would be handcuffed and put behind bars before he opens his big mouth. Remember who was Ong Teng Cheong? He got power or not? He can become rogue?
February 17, 2016 8:43 pm
Suddenly I remember Devan Nair.
3rd President of Singapore
"elected president can become a dangerous rogue? Don't be stupid lah. He would be handcuffed and put behind bars before he opens his big mouth. Remember who was Ong Teng Cheong? He got power or not? He can become rogue?"
Isn't the same as?
"In sincity, got two heads. The bottom small head and the top wear the big head. But top only big head hor. Big head, very small mouth. Small head, very very big mouth hole. Why like that? Coz small head got gun power can shoot shoot. Big head can suck and spit only. So cumning thinking power in small head. Small head think, big head spit so simple. If big head anyhow spit, small head put small gun in big head mouth and bang bang bang. Juiced, Finish. But for not anyhow spitting, be good and holy, big head earn $50millions is it like that cock say?
February 17, 2016 10:44 am"
LoL
The only powerful one is the paikia. The rest all wayang. Very expensive third grade wayang show.
@ skeptical 820:
>> What about directly elected populist parliament?
Don't they also get up to all sorts of bad stuff? <<
Of course they do. They can lie, cheat, steal, declare war and legally murder people.
But it is more difficult because of:
1. The constitution
2. The separation of powers--i.e. if you have a rogue parliament, the INDEPENDENT JUDICIARY can shut them down and even prosecute rogue members, by just doing their fundamental job: upholding the constitution.
3. The opposition parties in parliament
4. Pluralistic nature of parliament: i.e. there is more than ONE person in the decision making processes. Rest assured not everyone will agree, even members of the same ruling party. Contrast that with a popularly elected president who has EXECUTIVE POWERS and can unilaterally do anything he/ she likes to anyone for any reason.
5. The president himself: e.g.: the well known case of President OTC who was appointed by the parliament. He came out and held the govt.'s feet to the fire regarding the state of the national reserves.
OTC held the govt's feet,
got himself kicked and got
denied a State Funeral.
Sinkies did not do anything
to right the wrong done on
him.
To add insult to injury, Sinkies
voted the Regime that kicked
OTC in again and again after
his death. Karmais a bitch You
say?
Some even said OTC deserves
the Treatments by his own PAP
and the Sinkies because he slept
with the pappies for too long.
Now, some are calling OTC People's President and True
Patriot decades after he died.
Crocodile's tear.
What say You ?
On OTC, a slight miscalculation by "parliament". He was, nevertheless, put in his tiny shoes. Asia is a much easier breeding ground for ONE supreme leadership. The rest are just useless rhetoric.
Singapore is Lee Kian Yew. Lee Kuan Yew is Singapore. Full stop.
Beware of the SHADOW
Sure. OTC may have fallen on his sword. But he won the hearts of the people. Once the cat's out of the bag, it cannot go back. And he managed to piss off LKY with just a reminder: "Hey, don't fuck around. You better account properly for the money." Of course he was more polite than that ;-)
@253:
>> got denied a State Funeral. <<
You are ABSOLUTELY WRONG! His family decided to mourn his loss in their own way. Please, don't denigrate this great man by spreading utter rubbish. OTC was a true "people's president"...he didn't yaya-papaya and was essentially a sweet guy...an "artist" at heart as an architect and musician.
Hey retard, OTC was the first elected president lah. Don't talk nonsense so early in the morning can?
And separation of power, independent judiciary, opposition politicians to check a rogue garment? Where you coming from? Timbuktoo?
@ 1010
Yes, you are correct. I made an error in FACT. Lucky I'm not doing anything important that requires unilateral executive action, so don't sweat it lah...
>> separation of power, independent judiciary, opposition politicians to check a rogue garment? Where you coming from? Timbuktoo? <<
The people get the govt they deserve, and the cuntry too. If the people decide that an essentially one-party authoritarian benevolent dictatorship is good for them for 50 years, then that's what the people have CHOSEN, not once, but over and over again at successive GE's...with the exception of course of wards like Hougang et al.
"Hey, don't fuck around. You better account properly for the money", says
Matilah Singapura.
Where's the Money?
The PAP's problem is that the past has come to haunt them.
Because they treated OTC poorly after OTC went "against" the govt, now the voting public are very skeptical about the govt's idea to have a committee/ parliamentary chosen head of state.
The idea of having a non-publicly chosen head of state is a sound idea, and has long-term protections for the cuntry and its people.
However the PAP have only themselves to blame for the cynicism against this idea.
Moral of story:
Yew better not be an asshole. People remember. Later on when yew need their support for a good idea, they will not support yew.
OTC is just a spark with no flame. Like the rest, feather weight compared to you know who.
If OTC cannot do anything, you think anyone can become a rogue president?
Don't bluff bluff lah.
@ 1040:
>> OTC is just a spark with no flame. <<
Actually it's the Singapore electorate who is the real pussy. The people expect ONE MAN to do all the heavy lifting?
How many Singaporeans came out to support OTC when he called the govt. to account?
Not many. Not nearly enough to make a difference.
The Pussy People Get The Authoritarian Govt They Deserve! 😂😝
Better start looking for your next...dictator. Bow and lick his toes for more good years.
@ 1048:
That's what I've been saying all along. Singaporeans are such that they perform THE BEST when they have a dictator kicking their arses.
Damn straight, if you want many more "good years", better get a proper dictator in ASAP.
Question is...is there a future for...dictatorship?
@ 1059:
IMO, yes. Because a benevolent dictator accords with THE CULTURE of Singaporeans---i.e. they WANT authority, so they can concentrate on money, shopping and eating...and every manner of "materialism" imaginable. (Don't laugh, it's true)
What is a rogue president ?
Silly question.
A rogue president is any president
appointed by any rogue regime.
Got it ?
Not laughing. It is quite true. Have you found or will you find such an aggressive and merciful leader post LKY?
How does merciful fits
inti ruthlessness.
Are they the same?
Or was a horrible man
double faced or of
splitted personalities?
@ 211:
>> Have you found or will you find such an aggressive and merciful leader post LKY? <<
Sure got. Go to any "successful" hedge fund. You'll find many suitable candidates there ;-)
ruthless towards anyone who challenges the wisdom of the elitist class and merciful enough to dish out crumbs.
All these proposed changes just because Tan Jee Say qualified to be a candidate in the last Presidential Election.
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