2/25/2016

Singapore is a secular state

I try to avoid this sensitive issue of religion because the unthinking and daft sinkies will go into a rage when something negative about religion is said. We are in the 21st Century, we have learnt and progressed so far since the days of Adam and Eve, since the days the holy scriptures were written by men and women with their limited knowledge of the universe and science, many, to be frank, were half illiterates. Even a secondary school boy or girl of today knows more of the universe and life than those ancients. How much of their sayings are still relevant today and not regarded as rubbish is one thing. How much of the rubbish spouted by the ancients are still clinging on and held closely in the chests of many highly educated modern men and women is unbelieveable. There is this fear, thought or perception, that the rubbish of the ages cannot be questioned and must not be talked about.

We have religion staring right in your face today, in the pages of the media, imposing but claiming not to be imposing, on the values and way of life of non believers.  Many are claiming to be on high moral grounds to talk down on people, people who have nothing to do with their religion, will not subscribe to their beliefs or values, that the non believers are bad people of low morals.

How many of these people are morally that virtuous behind their robes when the truth is revealed, just like the revelation of John Paul and his relations with a woman and all the hidden excesses by people in the robes of all religions?

Common, give Madonna a break. Give the non believers a break. The MDA has rightly classified the show as R18. What more do you want? You want to run the lives of the non believers as well? Just keep to your flocks within the confines of your religious abodes and doctrines. Leave the rest of the people alone to do what they want with their lives. This is the 21st Century, no more prudes and pricks, no more pretensions of what is good for one and is so good for everyone. No more living the lives of people of the past. The universe has more than a few hundred billion galaxies out there.

Madonna is lucky and safe that she is living in the 21st Century. In the ignorant Middle Ages she would be stoned to death or burnt at the stake, and called a witch.  Are we going to return to those dark ages of human ignorance and to allow the bigots to take charge and run amok?

No one, not any religion shall be allowed to impose their beliefs and values on anyone outside their religions and beliefs. Keep religion as a personal and private affair from the secular state.  The secular state and rule of law must prevail. It is a very dangerous precedent to set to allow any religion to think they can dictate their wills, beliefs and values on the non believers, the modern men and women.

As a modern state with so many different religions and beliefs, we cannot slip backward to the medieval times of devils and witches and allowing the mob to go into a rampage to hang or burn people that did not agree with their beliefs, values and way of life.

147 comments:

Anonymous said...

Secular means "not connected with religious or spiritual matters."

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/secular
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“Even from my sick bed, even if you are going to lower me into the grave and I feel something is going wrong, I will get up.”
Lee Kuan Yew

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Lee_Kuan_Yew
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Do you think this has happened yet?
If this has not yet happened, do you think it is correct to say that our PAP government is still made up of fallible human beings who can make mistakes?

Is this conclusive proof that Singapore is a secular state?

Anonymous said...

Goldman Banker Behind Malaysia Slush Fund Leaves Bank

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-02-24/goldman-banker-behind-malaysia-slush-fund-leaves-bank
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Leissner was the powerful Goldman banker responsible for financing Malaysian PM Najib Razak’s giant slush fund, known as 1MDB.

Amid the ongoing international probes into 1MDB Leissner mysteriously took a leave of absence from Goldman, leaving Singapore for Los Angeles in January.
At the time, Goldman said he was still an employee.
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Oh no!
Do you think we have lost another valuable foreign talent?

Anonymous said...

Najib trusted the foreign devils not got screwed by the foreign devils and their conspiracy against him. Did this guy reveal all the information of his slush fund to the American government?

Hermit said...

I think the Archbishop is advising his flock. Nothing wrong with that. Why must non-flock members get all worked up?

straycatsgp said...

@ Hermit
It is now gone further than that with the whole born-again christian leadership (Khong et al) joining in their crusade against the Madonna concert.

Red Bean is 100% correct. The show is already rated R18 and nobody is FORCING anybody to go and see her.
All I can say is that if a Madonna show can shake anybody's faith, then the faith is obviously very weak.

I remember the Taleban barring all music and entertainment in Afghanistan. If we allow religious zealots to dictate what shows can be shown in Singapore, we're well on the way of doing a taleban here

Anonymous said...

The politicians have been running for cover after the Benjamin Lim's case and zipping their mouths are now opening their mouths to condemn Madonna's show. This is more important to talk about than Benjamin.

Got high moral and guts to talk about Madonna but no guts to talk about Benjamin.

Anonymous said...

The Buddhists also want to have a say.
The Taoists also want to have a say.
The Christians also want to have a say.
The Muslims also want to have a say.
Who else want to have a say?
Can the atheist have a say?

Anonymous said...

Straycats,

So what if Ah Khong joins in? He is telling HIS flock, no? Why so buaysong? Did Archie B tell anyone outside his flock not to go? Did Ah Khong tell anyone outside his flock not to go?

“nobody is FORCING anybody to go and see her.”

No one is forcing non-Catholics not to see her either. I don't see your point.

“All I can say is that if a Madonna show can shake anybody's faith, then the faith is obviously very weak”

I can also say that if ArchB can cause liberals and atheists to be shaken, it shows how much self-confidence they have and that their own self-belief is weak.

As for Taleban, I dun understand liberals. They claim that secular states should not allow religion to interfere. Fair enough. But then, when Taleban was around, it was not secular but religious state. So if secular state can have own laws and expect no religion to interfere, why can't liberals be consistent and apply it to themselves, when Taleban give religious laws to the then religious Afghan state?

So secularism means no interference from religion, but it can interfere in religious states? Where is the consistency?

Anon
“Can the atheist have a say?“

Sure! Why not? What is stopping atheists to tell other atheists to support Madonna? Who is stopping you? ArchB? Ah Khong? Taleban? Where got? Why so concern when religious leaders tell THEIR own flock what to do? You want non-liberals to tell you what to do? No? Then why you tell others what to do? You want to see Madonna's flesh and skin, you see lor! Who stop you?

Veritas said...

Too many people fuck Christian to show that they are iconclast hero. Madonna is able produce provocative video wearing a cross and everyone think she is a rebel kid.

The real hero is Veritas. I am the only one who debunk Islamo lies, claiming Tudung is Malay traditional costume. I told Malay girls your dressing 100 years ago is "no dressing", or naked shoulder.

And Madonna can prove to be a heroine by doing a Charlie Hebdo style. I give her an idea. She could wear tuding or Burka, spread out her vagina and shout allah hu akbar.

Then I admire her.

Ⓜatilah $ingapura⚠️ said...

C'mon lah uncle...although the state is secular, individual people and their groups are probably not.

As an atheist, me and fellow travelers account for about 15% of the population. Our numbers are growing, but slowly.

Freedom of religion or worship comes together with freedom of no religion as well. Those who chose religion also have the freedom to make their views known. So if they want Madonna "banned", it is them just expressing a "wish"...and not all wishes come true or are even possible.

This is not the first time there have been calls to ban something which "insults" religion. Those uncles and aunties who are old enough to have enjoyed drugs and free sex in the 1970's will remember how the church came out strongly back then to try to ban the rock musicals "Jesus Christ Superstar" and "Godspell". Even Harry Potter came under fire when it first came out. Not all Christians are the same. However their collective voice---whether they individually approve or not---is characterised by the yammerings of those in "authority"---mostly the closeted pedophiles in robes, who perform "magic tricks" like infant baptism (pure unadulterated BULLSHIT).

One thing people have is the power of choice: you want to see Madonna, make sure you're 18+ years old and are able to obtain tickets. If you think Madonna will send your eternal soul to hell, forever use that same power to choose and don't fucking go!

In that way, everyone simply mind's their own business. Those people who go to Madonna's concert don't force those who are against Madonna to go. However those who are against Madonna WANT TO FORCE everyone else not to go.

Fuck you, fuck your god and fuck off. πŸ˜‚

Veritas said...

Singapore and white man land is more like a Islamic state than a secular state. The Jews are enemies of Christian and friends of Islam traditionally and they are sabotaging Christianity. (stupid Muslim not aware of that)

There are a few asshole protected by white man elites, using them as a dog to attack the Christian roots.

1) LGBT
2) Islamofascist
3) Feminist
4) Black criminals

Anyone who speak the truth how sicko these chaps are, you end up in jail. The white elite will sue you for discrimination.

Islamo can go into white man land, preach hate against Christian. And when Charlie Hebdo speak up, the white man elites will let terrorist murder truth speaker.

Similarly, ALL scientific evidence pointed to the fact that gay are fucking dirty people and they spread HIV. You go say gay spread HIV, white man elites are going to sue you till pants drop. White man elites now lied that HIV are spread throuuh hetereosexual.

Ⓜatilah $ingapura⚠️ said...

One guy staunchly strict with Singapore's secularity was Lee Kuan Yew.

All those born-again evangelical leaders would be put in their correct place (keep your religion to yourself) if Lee was still round and active. In this case, sadly, he's not.

BTW how to these "absolute moralists" FORCE people not to attend the event: Simply by getting The State to OUT RIGHTLY BAN the "provocative" artist.

Fuck your "god"

Veritas said...

Church and organized religion, including Islam is one of the most dangerous institution created by mankind. The religious leaders promote nothing but superstitutious. Clerics are famous for sucking up to the elites, while especially hard on the peasants on moral values.

The Malaysian cleric never go out and fuck the elites who fuck and fuck. Meanwhile someone like Lina Joy want to get married, Malay Islamo get orgasm, and try to prevent Lina Joy from fucking.

All institutionalized cleric are mother fuckers.

Anonymous said...

How smart are the clerics? Many are school dropouts.

Veritas said...

That is why I no longer go to church. I found I knew MORE than my pastor, and they are like Kindergarten talking to PHD.

And they try threatening me to be meek.

A lot of church goer are smart, and they go there not for God, but go there to find fuck partners.

So Church is acting like SDU.

Anonymous said...

Matilah:
"Freedom of religion or worship comes together with freedom of no religion as well."

Exactly! That is why I don't understand why liberals got their underwear all kinked up their crotches wailing at the Archbishop. All they need to do is to untie their underwear from their genitals and go and see Madonna. No need to ask the Archbishop to undo their knotty underwear for them!

Ⓜatilah $ingapura⚠️ said...

@ 100:

I don't think you are going to convince the "true believers"---be they political ideologues or religious fanatics.

The point of a secular state (constitutionally defined) is that religious ideologues and their dogma are completely disallowed from using The State (the territorial monopolist on authority, taxation and legal violence) to force the rest of the nation to "comply" with their ideas.

Religionists have the FREEDOM to worship---to wail, holler and do whatever the fuck it is they do within the confines of their private property or their places of worship. In a secular state/ nation, they just don't get to beat the rest of us "sinners" and "infidels" into line and into compliance with their faith-based BULLSHIT. 😎

To the true believers: Fuck your dogma! Hope it gets run over by karma! πŸ˜‚

Anonymous said...

Does the archbishop got anything to say about Kong Hee and the Sun?

Anonymous said...

Should the garment form a moral police force to check on the morality of the people?
Did someone want Spore to an interesting place? How to be when you have priests and monks walking the streets with their bibles and scriptures?

Anonymous said...

Matilah, I still don't know why you are so worked up that your knickers are entangled with your dingadong. The ArchB made a statement to HIS FLOCK. If your knickers are now entwined around your bollocks, simply strip your pants and loosen that knickers of yours. Shouting at the ArchB does not help one bit. The longer your wait to loosen your knickers, the higher the risk you end up a eunuch due to lack of blood circulation down there.

To the true believers: Fuck your dogma! Hope it gets run over by karma!

It makes me laugh that atheists who condemn religion, only to engage in religious ideology. Isn't karma part of Buddhist/Hindu belief? Reminds me of how atheists laugh at religion saying belief in God and spirits is unscientific, only to be scared stiff about haunted places. :)

Anon:
Does the archbishop got anything to say about Kong Hee and the Sun?

If he did, would that help you in anyway that he was not referring to you when he said not to go to see Madonna? How so? Again, look at how the atheist gets his underwear all entangled around his dingaling-a-dingadong and expect the ArchB to rescue him from his plight.

How to be when you have priests and monks walking the streets with their bibles and scriptures?

At this moment right now, don't you think it is the liberals who are the oppressors? In America, you go to jail for not baking a gay cake. We have a situation where men are allowed in women's toilets because of gender neutrality and if you stop him, it is a crime. Would you allow a man to enter the same toilet when your mom is in the cubicle pissing? And to think that liberals are now making their way into Singapore with this LGBT and/or gender neutral ideas.

Wake up, liberals! Who is the oppressor and who are the victim?

Anonymous said...

Madonna has a beautiful 19 yrs old Daughter going to college. She lived a very interesting and challenging life than most mortals. At a ripe 57 yrs of age, she is still rocking the stage with her taut body, putting to shame many women much younger than her. She has to be smart too otherwise how to stay in the fickle business and maintained her popularity for several decades now. How she did it? Making what your parents do behind closed doors sexy!

Anonymous said...

When religious people opened the bible, they see only two words. Sin and Salvation. Sin means don't fuck around. Salvation means Jesus got fucked so you won't be fucked for fucking around. So now the disciples are sent out into the streets and fuck those who fuck around with their salvation message of not fucking around after you won't be fucked for fucking around.

Anonymous said...

Hilarious isn't it? And they have huge followings seemingly intelligent and state educated too. Many sit in high places of power to whip your bloody asses.

Anonymous said...

"And they have huge followings seemingly intelligent and state educated too. Many sit in high places of power to whip your bloody asses."

Fully agreed. We have world leaders from America, Europe and many others who legalise men to use women's toilets, such that it is now legal for dirty old men to peep at your daughters' pussies when they take a piss. These leaders have such a huge following. Now that is liberal! Hilarious indeed!

Anonymous said...

You think your mother got wet? Very wet?lol

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 4:13

The dirty old men or old woman) is you :)

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 4:11

The dirty old men or old woman) is you :)

Anonymous said...

And btw, why insult people like the author and your parents or old folks ? You mean younger not dirty? Has your religion fucked your mind? :)

Anonymous said...

Do you realise that it is the religious people who are most imaginative where forbidden sex is concern? I do think Madonna is a prude in comparison lol

Anonymous said...

Wah, atheists think they so smart. They laugh at religion people when religion kana attack. But then when they kana attack themselves, they cry farder marder to help them. Liberals always douber standard mar. Can mock others but others cannot mock them. Make fun of religion but when kana make fun not happy. But freedom of speech means not only freedom to criticise religion but also freedom to criticise atheism mah. As if dunno. Cannot take the heat then don't start the fire mah.

Anonymous said...

Religious people imagine the forbidden sex but liberal people engage in them. Bestiality, incest, rape, sadomasochism, pedophelia, necrophilia....

Anonymous said...

Atheists are not bothered by people's sexuality and they don't harp on it or latched on to sex or sex crimes. It is usually the religiously minded people who do and in someway felt guilty themselves that they need to purge the world of perverts. Well, look within yourself, you share the same DNA as the people you fond of crucifying and stop for a moment and try to make some sense if you can :)

Anonymous said...

I do think Madonna is pure compared to these religious nut cases too hahahahaha

Anonymous said...

I am waiting for the day when Madonna will enter some school boys toilet and snap pictures. she is such a pervert WAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Anonymous said...

Sin is the Best Place
for the Pious such as
Some of the Cabinet
Members, the Superstitious
as well as All Sinners.
Do whatever sexs and styles
in your private confines and
no one bothers.
The Believers can screw the
Non Believers and vice versa.
No problem, just keep it private.

Want limelight, perform like
Madonna, call the Media b4
making a police report,
take a civil suit against yr
detractor or whatever that
makes You newsworthy or
glamorous.
Sin is hell of a marvellous
City.
Enjoy your Sin, it makes
others very envious as far
as sex and religion are
concerned.

Anonymous said...

"Atheists are not bothered by people's sexuality and they don't harp on it or latched on to sex or sex crimes."

Yes, and that is why the most liberal of atheists argue for homo rights, pedophile rights, the rights of bestiality engagers, rights of incest engagers and a whole lot of other rights a right minded human won't want to fight for.

As for the same DNA, have you thought that it is the wholesome traditional family sex within marriage that made the human race human? Imagine the liberals get their right to have have sex outside this man-woman marriage. Yeah, like man and something else. Or woman and something else. You want to change that DNA that made you human? If you want, that's OK with me. Soon liberals would evolve into non-humans and be extinct, while conservatives will continue many more thousands of years continuing to be human. Game enough to try out your sexperiment?

Anonymous said...

See what I mean about religious people obsession with sex? Sin is right or wrong Sex lol

Anonymous said...

I am also waiting for ALL the gays perverts to visit boys toilet and snap pictures hah haha

Anonymous said...

Do you think eve and the snake had sex that's why your God said...you shall surely die? Maybe they did because they fetl violated and covered themselves with leaves lol

Anonymous said...

"As for the same DNA, have you thought that it is the wholesome traditional family sex within marriage that made the human race human? Imagine the liberals get their right to have have sex outside this man-woman marriage. Yeah, like man and something else. Or woman and something else. You want to change that DNA that made you human? If you want, that's OK with me. Soon liberals would evolve into non-humans and be extinct, while conservatives will continue many more thousands of years continuing to be human. Game enough to try out your sexperiment?"

Why do you indulge in your imagination foolishly or care so much about people's sex lives? Show me your care by giving away your wealth to good causes than waste your time with others sex lives lah. The world is not going to explode because your neighbor is "immoral" lah. If that's what you have been taught then pat yourself on your back because you deserve to be fleeced through tithes

Anonymous said...

If Madonna is a pervert,and dare you call her that you religious morons, then many Hollywood and Asian stars you look up to are also perverts lol

Goodness, are Politicians perverts too? lol

Anonymous said...

Your Mother and Father also perverts? LOL

Anonymous said...

Ownself fuck ownself LOL

Anonymous said...

 Anonymous said...

When religious people opened the bible, they see only two words. Sin and Salvation. Sin means don't fuck around. Salvation means Jesus got fucked so you won't be fucked for fucking around. So now the disciples are sent out into the streets and fuck those who fuck around with their salvation message of not fucking around after you won't be fucked for fucking around.

February 25, 2016 3:47 pm

The Bible cannot be understood by the religious idiots.

Anonymous said...

See what I mean about religious people obsession with sex

It is liberals who keep engaging in sex, sex, sex. Then when religious people advise their own flock not to be like them, liberals say that religious people are obsessed with sex? What the heck? That's like a prostitute who approaches a religious man for her “services” then when he objects because he is faithful to wife, the prossie says that he objects because he can only think of sex! What bloody warped minds liberals have!

I am also waiting for ALL the gays perverts to visit boys toilet and snap pictures hah haha

Yes, only perverted liberals find joy and entertainment in such sick activities. Real sickos.

Do you think eve and the snake had sex 

See who's fixated with sex! The Bible never said that but you say so! What's liberals' fixation with sex, sex, sex?

Why do you indulge in your imagination foolishly or care so much about people's sex lives? 

I don't care if you shag a dog, cat or dinosaur. But when liberals force their ideals on society, like forcing society to bake a darn bloody gay cake, or society should allow gender neutral toilets, then expect the conservatives to object.

You want to have your space to shag a male asshole instead of a female hole, that is your bloody right. But know that you should not force your ideal on others. That is the crux of the matter.

As for Madonna, I have said many times that if you want to see her half naked body, just go ahead. Stop making the Archbishop, Pastor Khong or any other religious leader your whipping boy. They never forced you not to go.

Ownself fuck ownself LOL

Yes, liberal gays do that, dont' they? Conservatives have sex with legal spouse, gays and lesbians do it to each other. Ownself fuck ownself!

Anonymous said...

Liberals like MADONNA are GOD SEND to fuck the religious and sexual hypocrites, can't you see? Because of PERVERTED MADONNA, the world is reminded of the PERVERTED CHURCH once again. The world, even the Catholics are scolding the stupid church ha

Anonymous said...

We need to invite more perverted artist into Sin :)

Anonymous said...

Every time the church opens its mouth to speak....shit will fly right into their mouths. Better stay in your prison and preach to stupid cows lah. Like Jesus said...bunch of fiaking hypocrites

Ⓜatilah $ingapura⚠️ said...

@ "I'm not a liberal" anon 330:

>> Matilah, I still don't know why you are so worked up that your knickers are entangled with your dingadong. <<

Not possible. I don't wear underwear. Most of the time I wear a sarong.

>> It makes me laugh that atheists who condemn religion, only to engage in religious ideology. <<

Glad to contribute to your (experience of) mirth.😸 The world needs more laughter, that's for sure. BTW, knock yourself out and laugh at every atheist you encounter, or can imagine. That's so good.πŸ˜‚ Why?...

...because there are enough peopleπŸ’£ around who won't hesitate to πŸ’€KILL atheists πŸ”«. I'm glad you're not one of those folks!

Admittedly, I do get worked up over this religious "thing". Religion just makes me so fucking mad.

Hail Satan! (now you're going to shit on me for using a character from religion, whilst claiming to be atheist...ok, Mr Smarty-Pants...do your worst! 😜)



Anonymous said...

"It is liberals who keep engaging in sex, sex, sex. Then when religious people advise their own flock not to be like them, liberals say that religious people are obsessed with sex? What the heck? That's like a prostitute who approaches a religious man for her “services” then when he objects because he is faithful to wife, the prossie says that he objects because he can only think of sex! What bloody warped minds liberals have!"

You know how warped your remark is? Obviously you have poor understanding of human nature and how the world and religion work. Maybe matilah will stick his little finger into your brain hole and lubricate with his orgasmic knowledge

Ⓜatilah $ingapura⚠️ said...

BTW, since when did Singapore get polarised into a liberal vs conservative/ nationalist dichotomy?

I find that extremely strange. Singapore's political compass is CENTRIST...a little bit of Marx and Keynes, a little Hayek, of this and that..and a WHOLE LOT OF Lee Kuan Yew! (who was definitely not a liberal although he started off on the Left)

Ⓜatilah $ingapura⚠️ said...

@ "leave it out, mate!" 725:

>> Maybe matilah will stick his little finger into your brain hole and lubricate with his orgasmic knowledge <<

I've never experienced "orgasmic knowledge". After I cum, I always feel like I'm stupid. No brain power at all. It's like I blew my brains out on some dirty bitchez face! So sorry if she was your mum! πŸ˜‚

Anonymous said...

Political discourse is for the upper half of the body and religious discourse the lower half of the body. When you combine the two, you get a prostitute.

Anonymous said...

Matilah, I thought you gonna say your dad lol

Anonymous said...

Centrist indeed....LKY in the center said so

Anonymous said...

The verbal diarrhea from atheists is a sign they have nothing intellectual left to say. This is a good sign because it shows the religious have made their point and the liberals a hopping mad.

So whenever people of religion and secularism part after a debate, they will leave in opposite directions. The religious will say "peace be with you" while the atheist will say "piss be with me".

Self pwn. As always.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

When religious people opened the bible, they see only two words. Sin and Salvation. Sin means don't fuck around. Salvation means Jesus got fucked so you won't be fucked for fucking around. So now the disciples are sent out into the streets and fuck those who fuck around with their salvation message of not fucking around after you won't be fucked for fucking around.

February 25, 2016 3:47 pm

Quite enlightening

Anonymous said...

You can't teach religious idiots new tricks because they can't tell the difference between D O G and G O D. That's why they visit dogs house every week.

Anonymous said...

Peace be with you? LoL. Leave Maddy and the planet and return to your heavenly castle then but you will not because it is invisible. Instead, you lead children in prayers behind their back...side ha

Anonymous said...

If religious people cannot differentiate dog from god then atheists cannot differentiate a vag hole from an asshole. That's why truly religious people treat dogs (and other animals) kindly while the non-religious shag any hole.

Anonymous said...

So your statement justify PRIESTS shagging plenty of children holes ?? LoL

Anonymous said...

Religious people pray with the children behind their backs, but non-religious only see the children's back...side. Isn't pedophilia one of atheists' ideal?

Self pwn again.

Anonymous said...

Since when have I justified priests shagging children? Those priests have been defrocked. If it were an liberal who shagged a child, the liberals will say that pedo is a sex orientation.

Look who's morals need to be questioned.

Anonymous said...

The difference between non religious and religious people who break the laws is that the former don't mouth gods promises of a blessed life in exchange for your souls and money before they break the laws while the latter spit amble amount of gods words constantly about your blessed life in Jesus unconquerable promises and goodness for the masses before they break the laws and also violate children's backsides. Understand the difference now?

Anonymous said...

There is NO DIFFERENCE between a sex criminal who is religious or liberal when it involves child. A sex criminal is a sex criminal is a sex criminal.

But there is a difference how a religious and a liberal person reacts when they are caught. The religious will not boast about it and will most likely leave his religious position in shame. The liberal however will show no remorse nor shame, but instead JUSTIFY his sex crime by trumpetting "we are born that way because of our sex orientation".

Isn't that the real difference?

Anonymous said...

The laws condemn the non religious for BREAKING THE LAW but the world CONDEMNS the church for HYPOCRISY and at the same time the laws condemn the religious for breaking the laws.

The issue here is if you can't live for God or Dog, you should go stick your head in the ground like an ostrich and preach to worms

Anonymous said...

What sex crimes? Fornication a crime? Visiting prostitutes a crime? Or penetrating children's backside a crime? Do you know the difference?

Anonymous said...

Kong Hee committed crimes but never admit to it. What religious spirit infected remorse are you talking about?

Anonymous said...

Isn't poking children's backside one of liberals' ideal? You don't know that? Or trying to pretend that it is not because you suddenly realise that liberal ain't so wholesome after all?

As for Kong Hee, how do you know he is a religious person in the first place? Not that I am saying he is not. But there really are many non-religious people out there who pretend to be religious so that they can scam the naive. Never heard of crooks who pretend to be monks to scam your money through begging? Never heard of cheats who claim to have "god's powers" to heal the sick to scam the desperate?

Not that I am saying Kong Hee is not religious. But looking at how non-religious people use religion to to scam and cheat, you really cannot discount that!

Anonymous said...

Kong Hee is not your average christians who go to church with an open mouth and drink in all the piss of a preacher. He is the high priest of Sin commanding an audience of hundreds of thousands of mouths opened wide for piss of preachers like him to quench their thirst..world wide.

If he sees to wrong in the crimes and the shame of his wife, there can be no hope for the rest of the piss drinking followers who talk about religious remorse and shame in the Holy Spirit!

Anonymous said...

Sinkies. Period

Anonymous said...



Kong Hee is not your average christians who go to church with an open mouth and drink in all the piss of a preacher. He is the high priest of Sin commanding an audience of hundreds of thousands of mouths opened wide for piss of preachers like him to quench their thirst..world wide.

If he sees NO wrong in the crimes and the shame of his chinawine wife, there can be no hope for the rest of the piss drinking followers who talk about religious remorse and shame in the Holy Spirit!

All their leaders who pissed into the mouths of followers are a joke in society

Anonymous said...

Poking children backside liberal ideal? WTF. Who taught you that? Your dad poking your asshole when you were a baby?

Anonymous said...

LoL

Anonymous said...

All are born sinners and amongst
the Sinners are preachers.
And
Preachers and Sinners shall all
turn to dirt and dust, so please
try not to boast or proselytise
too much.
Can see how much enjoyments
in the Exchanges here. Sex sells
and most think they have the Sex
Appeal.
Not really so, at least there are
Two which most man will keep
a distance.
Surprisingly, there are also same
gender and cross species attractions.
Pervert or not, they can be enjoyed in
Sin within the privacy of your domain.
Why squabble?

Anonymous said...

Kong Hee builds an empire talking ABOUT JESUS but lived like pagans. If there is one bad Apple in the basket, rest assured someone is warning you that the rest of the apples are also rotten! Your Govt does not understand that!

Anonymous said...

Yes, pedo is a LIBERAL IDEAL. When conservatives warned gays that the "sex orientation" argument used to support gay would be used for pedo, it was scoffed. Now true enough, pedos are using the SAME SEX ORIENTATION argument to support pedo the way it is argued to support homo.

http://www.allenbwest.com/2015/06/that-was-fast-yesterday-it-was-gay-marriage-now-look-who-wants-equal-rights/

http://www.truthandaction.org/legalizing-sexual-child-abuse-pedophilia-now-classified-sexual-orientation/

http://www.thestar.com/news/insight/2013/12/22/is_pedophilia_a_sexual_orientation.html


Trying to deny the truth? There are many more links. All you need is to google. But you already knew that and just pretend it didn't exist, no?

Anonymous said...

be clear about your laws period. If you think the gays have broken the laws, arrest all of them by all means. Your arguments are with the men in white, liberal haters. Good luck

Anonymous said...

If you have not broken the laws, you are free. You are not living in the prisons unlike the religious. The strength of Sin is the law

Anonymous said...

All those who...ahem...hate "sins"...now happy hunting and hope you jail all of them for breaking holy laws lol

Anonymous said...

But can you trust Sin's laws and constitution? :)

Anonymous said...

Who is talking about liberals breaking laws? I have made my points very clear. They are:

1. Liberals who want to see a naked MAD-donna prancing like a crazy sex animal can go ahead. No one is stopping them because Archbishop and Pastor Khong are only advising their OWN FLOCK.

2. Liberals should stop forcing their ideals on others. They should stop speaking from both sides of their mouth. One side says freedom of expression must not be curtailed, while the other side condemns the right of religious leaders to express their thoughts towards their flock.

Anonymous said...

Can you trust morons like Kong Hee and the vaticunt?

Anonymous said...

And you are not a crazy sex animal(obviously from a religious perspective)? Tell us why you are not?( we all ears) LoL

Anonymous said...

Anon February 25, 2016 9:51 pm

Yes, tell us why you are not a crazy sex animal. Your parents also want to know why I am sure hahaha

Anonymous said...

I am not a crazy sex animal because you are. We are opposites, remember? Conservatives have relationships with spouse in a dignified manner in privacy. Liberals boast about their crazy sex ability in and even do it in public places like the open park. Do you see animals have sex in public or behind closed doors? Go figure, sex animal!

Anonymous said...

February 25, 2016 9:58 pm

Don't beat around the bush. Because you are so interested in people's sex life, we need to understand more about your indulgences too. Care to share honestly. How do you do it? Let's begin with YOU

Anonymous said...

Do you have sex unlike animal? No doggie for you? Have you asked your parents whether they tried doggie style before they had you?

Anonymous said...

Stop being a narcissist believing that I am interested in your sex life. I know YOU want to dig into OTHER people's sex life. But that again is the odious behaviour of liberals isn't it? That is, minding other people's sex life. What a sick animal you are. Manny was right when he called those liberal homos worse than animals.

Anonymous said...

LoL

Anonymous said...

Just tell us and stop your BS. If you can't, you are already living in your own religious prison :)

Anonymous said...

How do you get it off? Please tell the world religious morons. We are all ears :)

Anonymous said...

The fool doesn't know he is self-pwning by exposing the odious behaviour of liberals who are only interested in sex, sex, sex - even when the topic is a non-sexual one, ie freedom to express one's thought about Madonna's show. :)

Anonymous said...

You said it, Madonna is a CRAZY SEX ANIMAL. A crazy sex animal supported by millions including well known Asian artist local and overseas and even Catholics :)

She is an animal, you are not? Care to elaborate?

Ⓜatilah $ingapura⚠️ said...

@ "the differentiator" 831:

>> atheists cannot differentiate a vag hole from an asshole. <<

That's because sometimes they smell the same. Sorry to refer to your mum again...please give her my best. πŸ˜‚ Hope in the end they didn't have to cut off the other tit...😝

Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
The fool doesn't know he is self-pwning by exposing the odious behaviour of liberals who are only interested in sex, sex, sex - even when the topic is a non-sexual one, ie freedom to express one's thought about Madonna's show. :)

February 25, 2016 10:15 pm
You don't make sense. How do you arrive to that? Care to tell the world? :)

And stop BS. Tell us about YOUR sex life since you are so interested in crucifying Madonna :)

Anonymous said...

Matilah, we are just waiting for you to show up. You are the best lol

Anonymous said...

I can't even tell Matilah is a little girl or an old woman. Someone apparently can. How hah? :)

Anonymous said...

LoL

Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
I can't even tell Matilah is a little girl or an old woman. Someone apparently can. How hah? :)

February 25, 2016 10:27 pm

Maybe with animal sex power can tell...hahahahaha

Anonymous said...

Anon 10.15, the anon who keeps asking about your sex life reminds me of the crazy guy from OZ who kept drumming and harassing forummers to answer him about what they think about 9 yr old girls and hairless cheesepies some years back. I believe he is the same crazy doc. I have never seen someone as sex-crazed as him.

Anonymous said...

How do you know is a him? Care to verify with facts? We are very interested to know the facts :)

Anonymous said...

So Matilah, care to tell us your gender otherwise should we assume you are a little girl or an old woman? :)

Anonymous said...

LoL

Ⓜatilah $ingapura⚠️ said...

@ "confused and even more, confusing!" 1027:

>> I can't even tell Matilah is a little girl or an old woman. <<

The above sentence makes no sense whatsoever.

...but let me tell you about little girls and old women...

Little girls fetch big bucks on the global human sex trafficking trade. And old women...well most of them have seen and had more cock than you've had char kway teow. Once they remove those dentures, the ensuing blowjob leads to the most ball-squirting, mind-blowing cumshot you can ever imagine...
...or so I'm told. πŸ˜†

Sorry to talk about your grandma that way...πŸ˜‚

Anonymous said...

We still can't tell whether you are a little girl or an old woman, Matilah. Can we? :)

Ⓜatilah $ingapura⚠️ said...

@ "bluff garang" 1034:

>> So Matilah, care to tell us your gender otherwise should we assume you are a little girl or an old woman? <<

I don't give a smelly watery shit about what you wish to assume in that insipid brain of yours. Go on, do your worst. Don't worry, Jesus has already forgiven you. 😺

Anonymous said...

I said Madonna prances like a crazy sex animal, you lied that I said Madonna is a sex animal. So you lied then used your lie as excuse to prod into other people's private life. You are a sex criminal in real life, harassing people including sexually harassing women, aren't you? You fit that profile. Your words, your lies. They are so typical of an online sex criminal.

But then, many sex criminals hold liberal sex views, don't they? Pedo, sexual harassing, date rape, getting girls drunk then claim it's a consensual orgy, asking people about their sex lives online against their will.... Boy, do you fit that profile!

Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
The fool doesn't know he is self-pwning by exposing the odious behaviour of liberals who are only interested in sex, sex, sex - even when the topic is a non-sexual one, ie freedom to express one's thought about Madonna's show. :)

February 25, 2016 10:15 pm
You don't make sense. How do you arrive to that? Care to tell the world? :)

And stop BS. Tell us about YOUR sex life since you are so interested in crucifying Madonna :)

February 25, 2016 10:22 pm

Anon, whatever your gender. Be it a little girl or old woman...we are waiting lol

Anonymous said...

Matilah lol and you are assuming Jesus is real? LoL

Ⓜatilah $ingapura⚠️ said...

@ "stunning resume" 1045:

>> Pedo, sexual harassing, date rape, getting girls drunk then claim it's a consensual orgy, asking people about their sex lives online against their will <<

WOW! That's a great resume! I'm sure that will more than meet the entry requirements to the Catholic priesthood...

Anonymous said...

You can't prance like a sex animal unless you are like a sex animal. Nobody is going to believe you that you do not hold a religious perspective of what sex OUGHT TO BE. Just cut the BS and answer to YOUR OWN ANIMAL SEX LIFE don't be shy :)

Anonymous said...

"WOW! That's a great resume! I'm sure that will more than meet the entry requirements to the Catholic priesthood..."

Actually, he was sacked from the priesthood when he got caught. The last thing we heard of him is that he decided to continue his studies in an oz university to do a phd.

Official from the Vatikan.

Anonymous said...

matilah, have you taken your holy communion with the right priest? You won't know, do you? haaa

Anonymous said...

Matilah, can we tell whether you are a little girl or an old lady? lol

Anonymous said...

Some mad dog actually think he or she can tell...muahahaha

Anonymous said...

@ 10.51

You are wasting your time asking a religious conservative about his sex life. He will never tell you. Maybe you can coax him by demonstrating. So if you describe your sex life here, maybe he will follow your lead.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
matilah, have you taken your holy communion with the right priest? You won't know, do you? haaa

February 25, 2016 10:54 pm

We are very sure there are still many paedophile priests in hiding serving holy communion...you just never know. Partake at your own risk without shame and remorse

Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
@ 10.51

You are wasting your time asking a religious conservative about his sex life. He will never tell you. Maybe you can coax him by demonstrating. So if you describe your sex life here, maybe he will follow your lead.

February 25, 2016 11:02 pm

Sorry, I am not the one attacking Madonna or calling Madonna a sex animal or prancing like a sex animal which is the same anyway. So the onus is on the girl or boy or man or woman to tell us how unlike an animal he she is. :)

Anonymous said...

What is this talk about conservative won't talk about sex but liberal will. We all know the following.

Conservative - sex is between man and woman and they do it privately.

Liberal - sex is between anyone and anything and they do it publicly.

Anonymous said...

"Sorry, I am not the one attacking Madonna or calling Madonna a sex animal or prancing like a sex animal which is the same anyway. So the onus is on the girl or boy or man or woman to tell us how unlike an animal he she is. :)"

Still showing that he needs to talk about sex, sex, sex online. What did I say about the profile of a sex criminal?

Self pwned again. :)

Anonymous said...

Anon 11:02 pm..Btw, how do you know is a he and not an old lady or a little like girl like Matilah? LoL

Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
"Sorry, I am not the one attacking Madonna or calling Madonna a sex animal or prancing like a sex animal which is the same anyway. So the onus is on the girl or boy or man or woman to tell us how unlike an animal he she is. :)"

Still showing that he needs to talk about sex, sex, sex online. What did I say about the profile of a sex criminal?

Self pwned again. :)

February 25, 2016 11:11 pm

The world is still waiting for your revelation about your holy life and why you called Madonna a sex animal :)

Anonymous said...

//Anon 11:02 pm..Btw, how do you know is a he and not an old lady or a little like girl like Matilah? LoL//

You are right. Maybe it is not a he but a she. But that would now make the guy who keeps questioning her about her sex life a sex criminal bcause it would tantamount to sexual harassment, no? It doesn't matter that the questioner is a she herself. The victim is female and that is what counts under Sing law!

Anonymous said...

The world is waiting why you are so sex obsessed and display all the odious character of a sex criminal online. Explain your inane sex obsession.

Anonymous said...

When you called Madonna a sex animal, you better tell us how you would do your sex right in private or public otherwise why label Madonna an animal right? :)

Anonymous said...

Ok, enough said for the readers to judge for themselves muahahaha ha

Anonymous said...

Never called Madonna a sex animal. You lied that I called her that. You lied so that you can give excuse to prod into people's sex life. Explain your inane sex criminal mind. The world is waiting.

Self pwn yet again.

Anonymous said...

Religious morons and sinkies..adios hahahaA. Sin forever under PAP..hahahaa

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Who is talking about liberals breaking laws? I have made my points very clear. They are:

1. Liberals who want to see a naked MAD-donna prancing like a crazy sex animal can go ahead. No one is stopping them because Archbishop and Pastor Khong are only advising their OWN FLOCK.

2. Liberals should stop forcing their ideals on others. They should stop speaking from both sides of their mouth. One side says freedom of expression must not be curtailed, while the other side condemns the right of religious leaders to express their thoughts towards their flock.

February 25, 2016 9:51 pm

Anonymous said...

Calling Madonna MAD? You mean millions are mad people to pay and watch MAD Madonna with animal sex antics? :)

Anonymous said...

So? Where is that part you claim I said "Madonna is a sex animal"?

Telling everyone you edited my words and LIED so that you can continue to prod into people's sex life? Explain your inane need to satisfy your odious lust. The world is waiting.

Self pwn yet again and again!

Anonymous said...

LoL

Anonymous said...

So what's your view of Madonna sex life, holy? WAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Anonymous said...

11.28, my advice to you as a fellow online commentator is to ignore that guy. I am telling you he is the same guy who trolled in YPAP asking people to discuss about young girls' pubes online. He is the same crazy guy Sinkie guy who studied at USQ in ozland. Just let it go. He enjoys it if you keep this nonsense up. He takes pleasure talking dirty on the net. Don't give him the sexual gratification of talking dirty online. Just leave. That's my advice to you.

Anonymous said...

ok lah...enough nonsense for Matilah to psycho analies in her wet dreams lol

Anonymous said...

"ok lah...enough nonsense for Matilah to psycho analies in her wet dreams lol"

The dog (doc) farts and matilah gets the blame. Poor guy. lol

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Who is talking about liberals breaking laws? I have made my points very clear. They are:

1. Liberals who want to see a naked MAD-donna prancing like a crazy sex animal can go ahead. No one is stopping them because Archbishop and Pastor Khong are only advising their OWN FLOCK.

2. Liberals should stop forcing their ideals on others. They should stop speaking from both sides of their mouth. One side says freedom of expression must not be curtailed, while the other side condemns the right of religious leaders to express their thoughts towards their flock.

February 25, 2016 9:51 pm

pot calling the kettle black?

Anonymous said...

The conservative here is an old dame lah.
Pedos r not so loso like her.
Cannot see the old dame is grouchy meh ?

Anonymous said...

The monsignor met government officials to express the Church’s concerns about the Singapore stop of Madonna’s global Rebel Heart tour.

And the star’s concessions were not enough for Archbishop Goh, who urged the faithful not to support “the ‘pseudo arts’ that promote sensuality, rebellion, disrespect, pornography [and] contamination of the mind of the young”.
He concluded: “There is no neutrality in faith; one is either for or against. Being present is in itself a counter-witness.”

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Not just telling his flocks but also telling those who rule over the sheeple

Anonymous said...

So many from the other side of the world popping in here at this time to analyse holy babble

Anonymous said...

@12.16 am,

I think you gave very weak argument. If you say that the monsignor should not express his concern about the Rebel Heart Tour, then I think you should also support the idea that LGBTs should not express their concern about S337A. Why should one particular interest group be allowed to express but another be suppressed?

So what exactly is freedom of speech and expression to a liberal?

Anonymous said...

Rebel heart is not a law to chop chop their kukujiao but they want to be the law to chop chop peoples kukujiao?

Anonymous said...

Archbishop merely expresses his concern. He never asked or demanded anything from anyone or any party. LGBTs on the other are DEMANDING the removal of S337A. Then if people don't agree, they are called homophobes.

Such is the law of freedom of speech from a liberal.

Anonymous said...

Rebel Heart is demeaning to the Christian faith but liberals see that as entertainment. So when Archbishop expresses concern, he is slammed by liberals.

By the same argument, any pastor who insults gay behaviour is demeaning from a gay's POV, but that is enlightenment to a Christian zealot. So when LGBTs express that Pastor so and so is homophobe, it is now justified for Christians to slam LGBTs and liberals?

Is this not the line of argument liberals put themselves in?

Anonymous said...

Make no mistake about it, the Christians aspired to be the law of the land. At the moment, they are using govt officials to do their bidding.

Anonymous said...

Human beings are demeaning to the Christian faith, isn't that the reason they need a radical make over to look like an invisible man? The rational being has little tolerance for such insults but can you blame them?