9/08/2025

The China India Story. Same beginning, different ending

 India became an independent country in 1947. China became PRC in 1949 after a long war with Japan and a continuous civil war with the KMT. Both India and China started at about the same time, both poor agrarian countries with no modern industries to talk about. Both were equally poor, the people were mostly uneducated, illiterate farmers or artisans. Their GDP were about the same, nothing to talk about.

Till the 1970s, China went through tumultuous periods of experimentation to catch up with the world but failed miserably. The weather, droughts and famine added to cripple the effort of the Chinese people to rebuild themselves and their economies. The Cultural Revolution dealt another severe blow to the Chinese people, destroying many things of value, the leftovers from the Japanese Invasion and lootings by both the Japanese and the KMT.

In the same period, India chuckled along in its own pace with not many upheavals but with nothing to crow about. 1978 was the turning point of the Chinese economy, opening up to the West and the 4 Modernizations as a start. The following 30 years of rapid industrialisation, selling cheap labour to the West just to get by were accompanied by parallel state policies to educate its population, to learn as much from the West and reconstruction of the country and infrastructure, transformed China into a modern industrial nation state, with its GDP ballooned to more than US$15 trillion. Now China's GDP is creeping towards US$20 trillion.

India continued to chuck along at its own pace with a GDP of nearly US$4 trillion today. In the early 1970s, India had an edge over China in computerisation when everything was in English. While the Indians were excelling in programming and making a name for itself, with a few Indian software companies emerging into international prominence, the Chinese were still learning English.

Today, the Indian software companies are still there as before but becoming just another company. Chinese companies are big names in technology and engineering. Chinese companies are in the forefront of the IT/AI and chips race for world dominance. India is still stuck with the same software companies with a struggling industrial base that is no better than Hong Kong in the 1970s. On the other hand, China is the factory of the world, with complete supply chains for every necessity in modern living and also in high tech, AI, 6G and competing to be the leading powerhouse in top end chips.

There is no comparison between where India is now and where China is. China is neck to neck with the best in America and has surpassed many American industries and not looking back. Anyone believing that India is the next China and the future got to get their heads check. It is meaningless to compare a US$4 trillion GDP with a US$20 trillion GDP. If India is even a fraction better than what it is gloating about, its GDP would be nearer to US$10 trillion at worse. It's GDP is not even a quarter of China's GDP. But comparing GDP can be misleading. What is important today is high tech and leading edge science and AI. Where is India? Only the gullible would think India is in the race or a factor to be reckoned with.

China is now almost self sufficient in many fields. India is almost totally dependent on imports of everything. India's industrial giant, Tata, is making mini EVs with motorcycle engine. In China, many little factories are making many mini EVs with motor cycle engines, and making them better than Tata, and selling them world wide. India is the future? Not in the next 50 years. They could not even have enough urea ie fertiliser, when it is abundantly found in the Ganges River. No technology to harvest them. No technology to turn the Ganges water into Newater for semicon industry.

Looking to India as the future of growth and high tech is like the hillbillies looking to D grader Trump to make America great again.

18 comments:

Anonymous said...

Someone said, judge a country by its toilets. In the 70s, many Chinese toilets have no doors. Today, Chinese public toilets are better than those in Singapore.
In India today, they hardly have any public toilets. Even their own people have no toilets at home. Their toilets are under the sky, no doors, no walls.

Anonymous said...

Actually, India does not need to build toilets. The Ganges River and other rivers acted as their toilets. They bathe there, shit there, urinate there and even die there. Better, cheaper and faster than building toilets. After shitting just wash in the river not even needing toilet papers.

Anonymous said...

When a country leader is inclined toward a certain religion/class(caste)/ethenic group/education/political party, then you will never be able to exploit the potential of it population. China do not have a so call national religion or multiple political party, that why it could concentrate it effort in making it citizens life better. And the most important aspect is to have a leader that really want to make it citizens life better and not for self/family/group interest.

Anonymous said...

More than 10 years ago, an enterprising Singapore saw this need for toilets in India and wanted to invest in this business. That was the last time I heard of him.
The Indians are more interested in going to the moon. They claimed to have landed a rover on the moon. But where is the evidence? Only 'gong gong' Singaporeans believe in this fantasy and wanted to offer our hard earned money to the Indians and listen to them spinning story of space technology.
Goh Keng Swee will be turning in his grave. Throwing good money on fantasies, not on proven stuff.

Anonymous said...

Some just love throwing money into a black hole. The Europeans are doing that in Ukraine. The USA is doing it in Ukraine and Middle East and soon Venezuela as well, followed by Iran and China. As sure as the sun rising from the East.

Anonymous said...

Looks like India already has the biggest toilet in the world.

Chua Chin Leng蔡镇龍 aka redbean said...

I just cancel my trip to India. Would be in agony when outside the hotel and needing to pee or to shit. No need to suffer such pain unnecessarily.

Anonymous said...

Choose a hotel near a river. I am sure you will not be arrested, LOL It is a national past time in India, I think.

Anonymous said...

The kampong politicians are waiting to scuttle Anwar's industrialisation plan once they removed him. All the semiconductor and EV factories would be closed down.

Anonymous said...

Already in Sentosa beaches.

Anonymous said...

Can Singapore afford to throw billions and billions on untested or unproven tech or products? Throwing some seed money like venture capitalists maybe acceptable, within certain limits. Throwing billions after billions on ideas and concepts is nothing but gambling with the people's hard earned money. Is this responsible way of investing the country's reserves?

Anonymous said...

Little wonder the waters are polluted.

Virgo49 said...

The Notorious " BLACK HOLE Of CALCUTTA"

Sinkieland Desker And Petain Roads also all the Black Holes.

But Sinkeland Black holes made monies.

India's Black Hole Habis KAPUT

Deep Pits with no bottoms

And All swallowed up

Lessons shall be shown M.O.T and then sorry too late liao!

Just like Japan and the Rest of the Free World BS DemoCRAZY cannot deliver patted your backsides with already million dollars and yen and then resigned.

Virgo49 said...

Ssssh Secrets!

Cannot disclose!

Countries with trillions dollars Sovereign Funds also published every half yearly

Virgo49 said...

Mr RB should pay a visit as now old folks liao sometimes urine inconsistencies can pee anywhere in India.

Convenience lay!

Where to find?

Virgo49 said...

Should be incontinence

Apology

Chua Chin Leng蔡镇龍 aka redbean said...

Think you are right. This is a great advantage to be in India. No need to look for toilets.

Anonymous said...

And you are contributing to India's GDP. Oops, only cow dung is included in India's GDP.