4/10/2017

Elected President - How stupid it can be

When life was simple, when a Malay was a Malay, a Chinese a Chinese, an Indian an Indian, it makes sense to talk about a Malay President, an Indian President, a Chinese President or an Eurasian President. Or at least in those times, the racial divide or ethnicity was fairly obvious though when dig deeper, there would still be some adulteration.

No one has any doubt or misgivings about President Ishak, Sheares, Nair or Nathan as to who they were and their ethnicity. Fast forward 50 years, how many Malays, Indians and Chinese are really Malay, Indian or Chinese? One day Vivian Balakrisnan may be standing for the EP, or his children, or children of Dhanabalan, Yaacob, Tarmugi, Mah Bow Tan, Tharman or any of those who have mixed parenthood, what ethnic group would they be representing? Some may have grandparents of Arabs, Indonesians, Chinese, Indian and every other race on earth, their DNAs could be so mixed, with 4 or 5 ethnic tribes in them, they could claim anything they want to be but would they be acceptable?

The children of a first time mixed parenthood could go forth to marry again, what ethnic group would they become? A simple example is a Malay Chinese or an Indian Chinese family. Would their children be called Malay, Indian or Chinese?  What would their children be called if they marry into a minority race or a majority race?

Life is getting more complicated and messy by the days and this EP is looking more foolish by the days as the rojak culture gets stirred and mixed up more vigorously. The claim to ethnicity in the future is going to make many people looked very silly when they have to prove how Malay, Indian or Chinese or rojak.

The globalisation and open leg policy of the govt is going to make this issue more funny and queer than you think. Everyone would be more aware of their parentage and ethnicity all because of this EP thing or would be questioning whoever claims to be a minority. Their ancestry would not be spared and there will be calls to dig and dig about the past.

This EP thing is so unbelieveable! And to think that it is a clever thing when it is going to be a joke in the future. More important, it would be the most divisive thing in the Constitution and portends for more troubles to come to divide this nation.

57 comments:

Virgo 49 said...

Halimah gonna stand down.

Hopefully, they have a Bye election. See that what guy now recalled to stand by.

No diamond, trash also can.

Hopefully, the daft Sinkies voted another Opposition GRC.

The WP became aa kow already.

As for the PE, aiya just enjoy your holiday if you are on 5 and half day week and just marked FU.

Total votes cast 3millions.
Valid votes 800,000.00
Spoilt votes 2.2 millions.

Cheers

Anonymous said...

This is like trying to plug a tiny hole in the wall but ended up undermining the soundness of the whole structure.

Anonymous said...

Hello Redbean, you still harping on this EP issue? Please give it a rest. Nothing you say or will be said by whoever will not change a thing. So why waste your precious time and go on about this things that you have no control over? Such a blatant manoeuvre by the PAP government to select their preferred candidate that has become the laughing topic in the world. Make Singapore looks silly. My advice to you Redbean is to give up and just accept the inevitable. You have voted for this remember?

Anonymous said...


Dont anyhow call people stupid can or not?

Dont play play. Please they are not stupid!

They are very very smart people!

They are people in top top top positions! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ in salaries!!

So, how can they be stupid! You tell me lah.

Sorry, maybe you are stupid!

How about the 70% masses.......Stupid?.......Smart?

Hahaha........

Anonymous said...

This reflects badly on our policy makers. You are right, with inter marriage, there is few pure blood Malay. Let say there is 1 million Malays in Singapore but 70% are not of pure Malay Blood, does it matter if the EP is Malay? Will the 70% feel proud and happy or only the 30%?

Anonymous said...

The globalisation and open leg policy of the govt is going to make this issue more funny and quicker... This EP thing is so unbelieveable!...More important, it would be the most divisive thing in the Constitution and portends for more troubles to come to divide this nation.
RB

What funny? What divisive? What troubles?

Didn't PAP won with 70% votes in GE 2015, and only just a year ago, even won a by election with a minority candidate in a Chinese majority SMC? And won against the pah jialat jialat jialat ko buay see (beat hard hard still cannot die) Aung Juan Soon Chee some more?

And don't say illegal mass protests in the streets, even PAP allow Sinkies to protest legally in Hong Lim Park, Sinkies and even Aung Jan Soon Chee also not interested.

So what divisive? What troubles? Sinkies in trouble? So what, they still voted PAP to win big big, tio bo?



Anonymous said...

Uncle RB, dun worry la..there will come a time for a 'chap cheng' or rojaik EP ( provided that Ah Long san live till 100years old or his clan men/women still rule in the parliament)...this minority EP is gonna be a joke in this planet when Pinky gonna meets UAss President Trump ( probably DT gonna ban this Malay Muslim Presi-HaliMah or wouldn't wanna meet them)..

Anonymous said...

Hello Redbean, you still harping on this EP issue? Please give it a rest. Nothing you say or will be said by whoever will not change a thing.
9:49 am

Who said Redbean or whoever can change anything? Say for fun cannot meh?

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

The divisive factors of race and religion must not be allowed in our Constitution to divide the people further. This is like leaving a time bomb in the Constitution. It is easy to put it but very difficult to take it out.

This EP thing will be the curse of Singaporeans in the future.

Anonymous said...

/// Some may have grandparents of Arabs, Indonesians, Chinese, Indian and every other race on earth, their DNAs could be so mixed, with 4 or 5 ethnic tribes in them, they could claim anything they want to be but would they be acceptable? ///

Do we need another parliament vote to decide how many generations back we want to investigate to determine racial purity?

Reminds me of Nazi Germany.
How many generations pure is the Nazi Aryan?
Let's see if they can offer us any guidance on this matter:

Mischling Test

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mischling_Test

Anonymous said...


Please do not forget that ALL decisions were passed with the massive massive 70% support!

You think they are stupid!?

No! No! No! They are not stupid!

They earn millions! How can they be stupid!?

They are laughing to the banks!

So......who indeed is stupid?........Stupid-EST!

Think about it!

Anonymous said...

Does Malaysia have a definition of who is "bumiputra" and who is not?
Should Singapore borrow the same definition to define who is Malay and who is not ... for the purpose of our EP elections?

Anonymous said...

//This is like leaving a time bomb in the Constitution..//

Uncle RB, ur arguments r right to the core...this minority EP thing is gonna hit the ruling party or even its people real hard.. eg. what happen whoever a got into EP or minority EP is of 'mixed' race/religion aggressive genetic ancestral linage background (eg ex-ex-ex-Al-Qaeda, ex-ex-Hitler, ex-ex-ex-Emperor Qin Shi Huang ancestral blood)..this genetic linage r hard to detect using the modern DNA sequencing to detect due to long history, not saying that these people r bad but need to beware of this time bomb)

Anonymous said...

So in order to qualify to be a candidate for this Malay EP elections.
Must the applicant submit a certificate to confirm that he/she is a Malay?

Who will issue the "Malay-ness" certificate?
MUIS ??
Who will certify that MUIS is qualified to issue such a certificate?

What is the qualifying criteria to determine whether you are a Malay or not?

Anonymous said...

This EP thing is so unbelieveable!
RB

Not really, if u see it as a means by PAP to prevent TCB from contesting the EP.

Then the whole thing becomes believeable, not at all funny, and also make sense.

Divisive? Not at all, when 70% still voted for PAP to win, and win even in a by election some more!

Anonymous said...

Who will certify that MUIS is qualified to issue such a certificate?
10:38 am

The one who appoint MUIS lah.

And who appoint the one who appoint MUIS? The ruling party lah.

And who appoint the ruling party? The 70% lah.

So do u see the power of the 70% now, do u?

That's also why TCB can only win if the 70% want his party(assuming he form one to contest elections) to win.

Anonymous said...

@ April 10, 2017 10:47 am and April 10, 2017 10:38 am

So Tan Cheng Bock is not considered a halal Presidential candidate is it?

Anonymous said...

This EP thing will be the curse of Singaporeans in the future.
RB 10:13 am

Maybe PAP being the ruling party knows what they are doing?

They may also know something which we do not know.

It is a fact that sometimes without knowledge, there is fear or other negative thoughts.

But once you know and aware, u will see it may be of no consequence and the whole thing even make sense now.

Anonymous said...

So Tan Cheng Bock is not considered a halal Presidential candidate is it?
10:54 am

Of course still cannot be Presidential candidate lah, even if Tan Cheng Bock were to convert to Islam, become a Muslim and eat halal. Because he is still a Chinese by race and under no circumstances can this fact be changed, tio bo?

So under no circumstances can TCB fight and win against PAP on the EP.

Anonymous said...

Law Minister K Shanmugam: Singaporeans not asking questions is key to Singapore’s success

http://statestimesreview.com/2017/04/09/law-minister-k-shanmugam-singaporeans-not-asking-questions-is-key-to-singapores-success/

Stop asking so many questions.

Anonymous said...

@Anon 11.18am

That's why Sinkieland's society ceased to be a creative & innovative society (at least there r 70% dafts r like tat..those that questions the garmen got silienced & living in exile in other land..who loses...)..

Anonymous said...

The key to sinkieland s failure is to continue to vote for ponky. I m a bit conventional. I agree that race and religion must not be mentioned as a priority against others in laws, constitutions, or parliament. This way tells the public to vote for a governing team that will reward them whoever races they come from.

Race and religion are born rights. Religion derives from parents upbringing. This is born rights, cannot be changed.

Putting one race as choice for president candidates is not only against this common belief of equality, daily we ask children to repeat, it also a stain spot against what the pap government has asked its citizens to cultivate: integration.

There is no good reason to vote for ponky as his mind is obviously being bias towards certain interest parties. From this way of openly doing, i felt sinkieland is kicking something under the carpet. May be properties will create more bankrupts than wealthy sinkies for those who had committed based on their belief in pap. May be the coffers has run out of cash. I was surprised to see one pSA arm was sold to china s haihang for S$1.4billions. This will help china to develop malacca to go against sinkieland. Further more, terex was captured by china only recently. Further more, ponky openly told china to obey international laws to give up Scs islands. Yet for small sums, pSA lose a revenue contributor forever.

Sinkies need to vote for opposition to uncover what might be under the carpets. Opposition must be smart to table abolishing EP as a common goal to attract voters. They may win in 2020ge if they kick out the old woods and put in new bloods. Hopes are on wp nsp and sdp. Please kick out the old woods that keep pap going for years. Sinkieland needs new ideas, ponky is corkup king really.

Anonymous said...


all today's problems and issues because of the 70%

predicted that 80% at next GE

no point kpkb kpkb n kpkb

you think you are very very smart

remember, at the end, all of you will only be......."lan-lan"

correct or not

this is singapore............many many called HOME

Anonymous said...

//There is no good reason to vote for ponky as his mind is obviously being bias towards certain interest parties. From this way of openly doing//

Ur arguments r correct...u see how Pony Pinky praises the Eurasians have made many contributions to Sinkieland despite being a small population here u will know why Ponky Pinky must have 'hated' the majority home-grown Chinese Sinkies never answer to his call of contributing to the city state in pro-creation ( at least 70% dafts r like tat)...

Anonymous said...

" 'hated' the majority home-grown Chinese Sinkies never answer to his call of contributing to the city state in pro-creation"

How many fetus from human bodies were thrown like dirt when stop at two was going for 30 years? As population shrink, ponky added in adults bodies at 30 40 50s to population, withing 20 yrs of his rule. 2.5 millions are added. These bodies will get old faster than the fetus if allowed to be born and did NS.

Note 20yrs when foreigners was 30s, they are already 50s, needing hospital beds. How many hospitals needed for his population policy?

The corkup king started from old fart and carried on by ponky. Ponky even spent 360 millions a year to educate foreigners kids and then see them went home to do for home countries, sure no NS.

How long do voters population need to learn these all need money.
The public debt created by ponky is 100+% of gdp, against imf recommended maxi 60%. If low public debt %, voters will get the money at 55, the money one piekar mp said not belonged to them. Can you see the problem, something is against the voters pockets. They still do not realize their money might be close to zero some days.
Most of the state assets are sold to foreigners, the shipping company, beer companies,to .. the recent pas arm, you name them. Some cannot be sold ones like airlines, airport, mrt, telco, newspapers, are getting problems on gaining revenues.

The retail sectors are shutting shops, new shops lacking owners, this is telling voters, salaries are stagnant or not enough for buyers to support the retailers.

Ponky made sure voters are good for nothing, except driving taxi. How can he built so many retail malls? Corkup king right? How about hospital beds, getting in more adults when they get old, they need hospital beds. 7 millions foreigners, how much voters need to flock out to build hospital to house the foreigners when they are old? After they are gone, hospital can be football fields? Ponky s policy has made people impatient to his corkup planning. He never worked in industries, that s the big problem there is something called value added. Foreigners once skilled can add value are sent home, while sinkies can add value are driving taxi. To ponky, all these are human bodies, similar to old fart times fetus at hospitals abortions. Citizens are useless to ponky except cheap labor money, firms want to pay and go. U cannot go on for another 50 years like this way. The world is not waiting for us.
U look at Trump s way of counting tax. Import cost outside US is not deductible costs for tax purpose. Ponky is so fond of ceca, import labor is the correct labor cost, without cpf for sinkie firms. Citizens better future comes from voting opposition. They need to sort out the problems as US, France, UK, are the same now: globalization? my foot.

Anonymous said...

What proof do we have that Halimah Yacob is a Malay ... so that she at least meets the race criteria?

Anonymous said...

@Anon 12.45pm

No need proof Lah..alamak that bugs bunny Kee Chiu already hinted in parliament when he slipped his tongue intentionally said "Madam President ..Speaker ..ma'am", all this event r all orchestrated & director by Long Ge ( should be awarded Oscar award long time ago but team Oscar won't wan to smear their own reputations)..

Anonymous said...

Sg not sure if malay anot no prom.

Cos our neighbour country got malaysure!

Anonymous said...

How can he built so many retail malls?
12:40 pm

Ponky did not build the malls lah. It is the private sector.

If the private sector who knows business best want to build, who is Ponky to stop them, u tell me lah? Some more build more malls also contribute to GDP growth what, and which is also the kpi of Ponky as head of govt.

Shops shut down? That's part of doing business what. What is there to do with Ponky? Your business fail u blame Ponky? How can? U fail but many others succeed u know, and that's what matters to Ponky.

Anonymous said...

He never worked in industries,...
12:40 pm

So? Does that matter when he and his party can win elections? He is a politician and his most important business is to win elections, tio bo?

Anonymous said...

"Does that matter when he and his party can win elections? "

It does not matter to me if he can win election. I does matter to me if he can create good jobs employing engineers, it experts, accountants, managers and enabling moving up the ladder kinda structure.

U tell me now, under ponky, which company was set up by him and grow big? I safely say to u now: none. Sold off to foreigners, plenty: it means losing jobs, as foreign control will hire own kakilan to manage.

I agree with you that ponky fit into the concept of the ruling of the 50million dollars scam case. Ponky just win election is enough. He has no obligations to create jobs because he is not an "agent" to create jobs for voters.
So ponky did not scam anybody lah.

He can take the money to enjoy while giving jobs to foreigners. Not feeling guilty like you.

As NS men, i think we can feel the same thing, we are not agents of defense, neighbor want this corner, take lah, no obligation to us to defend it.

U know Gibraltar? Its area is 6.8 sqkm, with 30k population. It belongs to UK, while its at the tip of Spain territory.

I was just thinking with new EP and going for 30 years. Woodlands is a good area for Malays to set up a territory similar to Gibraltar and loyal to Malaysia.
Serangoon is good for ah neh from tamilnadu to form own kingdown and loyal to India.

Divide this island and ruled by different big countries will be better. No need to do NS and argue if singaporeans need equality. Dont need lah. Politicians are not serious about equality. Tio boo?

b said...

Maybe they want to put a malay president there and blame everything that goes wrong on him. Just like usa put a black president there and blame everything on him although he is just a puppet.

Anonymous said...

Next time to find a pure Malay, Indian or Chinese is going to be very difficult. Everyone is likely to be a chap cheng. So how?

Anonymous said...

Annon 3.53. That is why Uncle RB and many of us think the move by Parliament is ridiculous. We pledge to stand as One People regardless of Race or religion but Parliament think we should be divided. How?

patriot said...


No problem with Presidential Candidates.
Folk like Matilah Singapura shall be excellent choice for a Sin President

The Self-claimed/Admitted Mixed Blood aka as 'Chap Cheng' in local Hokkien Parlance, is Race Neutral.
As one that declares himself to be religion free, it makes him more desirable as he shall have no religion biases.

We know Matilah Singapura is liberal and open minded with good sense of humour and a strong advocate of freedom in social, politic and sexual matters. He is widely travelled, does businesses internationally and is highly intellectual.

PM Lee Hsien Loong had sung praises for the Eurasian Community since years back and again just days ago. He knows that
there are many talented Mixed-blood Sinkies. Pragmatically, the Highly Paid Window Dressing should come from the Eurasian Community who can serve the Role without prejudice to any Race.
One not believing in supernatural like Matilah Singapura will be more desirable as there will be no religion, religious biases as well.

Concur with Redbean aka Sir Chua Chin Leng that Race Base Politic is going to make things nasty in future.

lt is beyond doubt that the Race lssue in the Presidential Election is a wayang.

Btw, the US Armada is sailing to SOUTH
Korea. lt shall be very interesting if it sails to NORTH Korea.


patriot



Anonymous said...

//We pledge to stand as One People regardless of Race or religion but Parliament think we should be divided. How?//

Juz last week, a miniority WP MP brought up the tudung issue but was hantum tarok tarok by the miw Masaigos saying the minion WP MP wanna people to be divided...so is it correct that the MIW Party wanna Sinkies to stay united by no raising the tudung ? Or is it the MIW so afraid that Sinkies become to poweful to topple the current Leegime?

Anonymous said...

Who's the STUPID one?!?!?! The 83 overpaid self-righteous pretentious jokers who devised the new EP scheme?? Or the dumbfuck Sinkies who voted for the 83 KNNs?? You fuckers all voted for them .... So complain for fuck. Be happy & show courtesy.

Anonymous said...

Juz last week, a miniority WP MP brought up the tudung issue but was hantum tarok tarok by the miw Masaigos ...
5:59 pm

That's the price to pay for his party, the WP, not being ready to be govt.

Don't say miw Masagos, next election even the majority Aljunied voters will also hantam him tarok tarok (by making him lose his MP allowance) if WP is still not ready to be govt.

Anonymous said...

Don't say miw Masagos, next election even the majority Aljunied voters will also hantam him tarok tarok (by making him lose his MP allowance) if WP is still not ready to be govt.
6:34 pm

Tiok. (W)hat's the (P)oint (WP) voting in and having a MP only to kena hantam tarok tarok in Parliament and nothing else?

Anonymous said...

Anon 6.34pm & 6.43pm.

Dun despair & dun think that this Leegime gonna rule Sinkieland 4ever..Sinkies r gradually gonna extinct in the next 50years or so, after that the foreigners gonna take over this Hotel California with another batch of new foreigners turn new citizens membership..in no sooner the entire population will be all replace with aliens ..by that time the PArty Against Party will also be replaced by Rojaik Action Party ruling this island ...true blue born & Bred Sinkies will jus be kept in the National museum for future historian to study these extinct species of the once rule the red dot dafts Sinkieporeans..

Anonymous said...

They are just utterly desperate to prevent Tan Cheng Bock from being elected the next President of Singapore . . .

Anonymous said...

Good communication vital to Singapore's success:

No wonder the church is so successful

Anonymous said...

It is his drive. he sees more evil in other govt than his own. Sin City is as white as the church( since it still has Sin's judiciary approval, it must be white right?) so no need talk about current hot topic.

Anonymous said...

The bullshit in this city is very thick. Everyone, who is outside the Centers of power, can smell the shit but the people who preside over the city can't smell it Nor handle it....judiciary.


Hello? You ok or not?

Anonymous said...

While the learned folks mull over the word "agent", anyone wonders why these learned folks choose to ignore the "boss"? Who is really the boss in this whole sad saga?

If the "boss" is also the agent, what do you think should be the outcome?

Ah, too much bullshit around to cloud the central issue?

I think they rather scrape the surface to give an appearance of "whiteness"

Anonymous said...

These people(2/3) don't go to higher learning to smell shit. They are there to massage the letters of the gods. The smell and taste of it are left to the people but if the people have been groomed to be idiots or are idiots themselves, they will be like the "dirty"thousands, given the facts of the case, still offer their souls, and money, to the devil.

Anonymous said...

1/3 remainder is just a job lah. A very well paying job

Anonymous said...

Who said no one is above the law? The boss is lol

Anonymous said...

EP or no EP, does it make a dime of any difference how Singapore is ruled or administered or managed?

Malay, Indian. Eurasian or Chinese President, does it make any less obvious that the EP is just a PUPPET, the WHOLE PUPPET and NOTHING BUT JUST A PUPPET?

Anonymous said...

Everyone 2free nowadays.

Nothing to make cost of

Living down.really 2 2 free.

Anonymous said...

I heard lastest news dat

Our economy is going driverless..

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

'Anonymous said...
EP or no EP, does it make a dime of any difference how Singapore is ruled or administered or managed?'

This is the problem with daft Singaporeans. They could not see anything further than the tip of their nose. Whatever happened further than their nose is non event, would not affect them.

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

Do the Singaporeans care if their CPF savings are no longer theirs?
Do they care if the country is taken over by foreigners?
Do they care if public money, billions are spent on foreigners, providing education to foreigners?
Do they care if jobs are given to foreigners instead of Singaporeans?
Do they care if they no longer can afford to own cars?
Do they care if they no longer could afford reasonably priced homes?

No, they don't. Even if foreigners take over their homeland they would still giggle away.

Anonymous said...

Because you are not allowed to get angry because when you get angry, you will most likely, and for most people, have to use very strong and unpleasant words at your subject.

When that happens, the law will be deployed to call you out an abuser and an offender. The service/public sector(your balls) are trained to shut down or frown upon your behaviour.

You will get frustrated and can't afford, time and money and with no support, to fight them.

At this stage, the people are dead(cold and impassive about justice), brain dead and justice will be decided by the arrogant and has time and again shown, by educated idiots.

Since yiu are brain dead and impassive, nobody knows the state and depth of injustices and everything looks fine around them.

If it looks fine, it must be fine then and more power to the rulers.

Anonymous said...

You must calmly and logically(apply their logic and ways) to solve injustices. Look at all Singapore dissidents, kena sued,fined and jailed, they shown no emotions outwardly like knnccb @&$:);$ etc etc etc

So calm like cemetery

See? Dead turkeys!

Anonymous said...

If police grab your gf/wife/daughter buttocks, calmly ask police for ID and calmly find the nearest police station to report matter

Anonymous said...

Some of the "for justice" institutions take weeks to months even years to resolve or wear you out. Ever try going to CASE and complain? Plenty of unpleasant stories but brushed away by them like deluded CHC members ignore your criticism and you will never hear about these people stories of unresolved injustices because not allowed to make public less sued and most just give up and shut up


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