4/02/2017

Cheng Bock, why took so long to speak up?


Cheng Bock, why took so long to speak up?

Cheng Bock held a press conference on 31st Mar to question how the govt compute the qualifying period for the election of a minority Elected President. The points he raised were sensible and logical as the way the govt calculate the 30 year/5 term to start from Wee Kim Wee is apparently controversial and kind of contrived. Even the brightest legal mind would have problems accepting the logic and trying to explain it legally as sound and constitutional unless one is prepared to content with funny explanations.

This move by Cheng Bock is drawing flakes from some quarters criticising Cheng Bock for being silent for too long, that the rice is cooked and it is now too late, water under the bridge. The question is that is this really too late and nothing can be done about it? Looking from another angle, what Cheng Bock has done, by waiting for all the nails to be struck into the coffin and then raised ruckus about it is a very sound strategy. It is a strategy that said, now that every is done it could not be undone except to pull down the whole scam.

Let me use the analogy of some foreign talents engaged to build a house using farcical or unsound formula for the foundation. If someone would have jumped the gun at this point to point out the glaring error, it could be corrected immediately, rectified and the building built on sound foundation subsequently. But if the questionable foundation was allowed to go undetected, no alarm raised, the whole structure built would not stand when the fault is pointed out and has to be demolished totally. You cannot fix an unsound foundation structure, say if the piling was shortchanged, or very poor material were used or inadequate support material was used. It must be pulled down, there is no two way about it.

Ok, back to Cheng Bock's objection on the computation of the 30 year/ term qualifying period, is it sound and logical? If not, if it is flawed, it must go back to the drawing board to start a new jiggle. How reasonable and logical was the use of Wee Kim Wee as the first Elected President, and from when? Is this another case of stuffing round pegs into square holes? And who is to decide whether it is sensible and constitutional if not the court of law? Some jokers said there is no recourse and if need to it should go back to Parliament. But Parliament also had a round of 'robust' debate on this issue, so everything cannot be changed. Really, is this what the legal fraternity thinks so?

I am not sure if Cheng Bock could take the case to the 'UN backed' Hague Tribunal, the one that ruled that island without its own fresh water is not an island, but surely Cheng Bock could file for an interpretation in our courts of law. This is not a lawless country. If a case like this cannot be heard in our courts of law, then it would mean that we are a lawless country, not 'boh cheng hu' but 'boh huat teng', Parliament is the law and above the law, the final say in making laws and changing the Constitution and no court of law can hear or challenge the Parliament?

My only misgiving about Cheng Bock's press conference is that it is just a press conference and the only outcome is for people to talk about it in the kopitiams. If the govt does not want to talk about it, does not want to engage, then what? Yes, Cheng Bock should do the necessary and bring the case to the courts of law for a decision. Period. If Cheng Bock's interest is only to raise awareness and start a round of public buzz, then it would be just a public buzz. The press conference is just that and nothing more and the EP would be held in September without him.

What's next Cheng Bock? Is this the end of the story? If Cheng Bock is serious and meant business, this must be a new beginning.

PS. I have a suggestion for Cheng Bock if he is not taking up the case himself. He can always ask a cleaner to take it up and have Ravi to represent her again.

46 comments:

Anonymous said...

/// Cheng Bock, why took so long to speak up? ///

Sinkies, why take so long to vote Opposition?

Anonymous said...

Cheng Bock, why took so long to speak up?
RB

Hahahaha.

Perhaps Cheng Bock was still hoping (maybe hope against hope) that PAP will not implement the Malay only in this Presidential Election, or at least maybe in the next one lah. So it is not wise to speak up too soon, or so he thought.

And since it is already confirmed, that's why he speak up now lah. Of course now it is speak up too late lah.

That's why for Cheng Bock, heads PAP win, tails Cheng Bock lose. And that's the consequence of going against PAP.

That's why no smart Sinkie want to oppose PAP. Sure lose one. Hope Cheng Bock learn his lesson. Lagi Hahahahahaha.


Anonymous said...

The chicken is cooked and cannot be uncooked. Water under the bridge and will never back-flow. Lets all gather round the table and enjoy the chicken. Nothing can be done. Live with it. 70% mandate and you have got what you voted for. Sorry Sinkies, just swallow everything that the government dishes out. Don't kpkb too much. No use.

Anonymous said...

It is very obvious that PAP is trying to deny Tan Cheng Bock the chance to be elected the next Singapore President.

Anonymous said...

I wonder if any of our high priced Singaporean talents earning Singaporean tax dollars;
I wonder if they will also take a long time to speak up.

Anonymous said...

That's why no smart Sinkie want to oppose PAP. Sure lose one.
9:54 am

Now I know why the Sinkie opposition is not ready to be govt. Because there are no or not enough smart Sinkies joining them. And so the opposition is not smart. And if not smart, how to be ready to be govt?

And the late LKY and PAP is smart, although this is not good for Sinkies, except in the earlier years.

Anonymous said...

/// Because there are no or not enough smart Sinkies joining them. ///

Why?
Is it because the smart Sinkies all want to earn high salaries by joining the PAP government instead?

Anonymous said...

/// Welcome to the new Italy, where the replacement of the original population, once known as Italians, is in full swing.
Only a few years ago this affirmation would have caused sarcastic disbelief, now is the reality in front of our eyes.

Inevitably, due to these massive arrivals, Italy is under an unprecedented financial strain.
Inevitably, those who are bound to suffer the most from this shift in resources are the growing numbers of Italians – now approaching the 5 million mark – who are rapidly declining into the official category of povertà assoluta or absolute poverty, as classified by ISTAT (the National Bureau of Statistics and Census)

Tuscany sets a perfect example.
Traditionally friendly and hospitable, thanks to its post -communist local governments, Tuscany has been welcoming sub-Saharan Africans for at least a couple of decades by now, and Tuscany now stands apart in Italy for a dramatic rise in meningitis cases. ////

SOURCE:
Africa's Gate To Europe

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-01/africas-gate-europe-operation-husky-again

Anonymous said...

@ April 02, 2017 10:22 am

You see lah.
The Italians are equally daft.
They also took a long time to speak up.

Anonymous said...

This EP thing is another proof that lawyers are not very good in numbers. When using words, one can twist and turn and confuse the listener to the point of saying black is white or white is black. When using numbers, 1+1 is 2 and cannot be 3 no matter how one tries to twist and turn. Now the EP calculation is going to make some people looking very funny and LHL very mad for being led into believing that it is a very sound case to use WKW as the starting point. Red faces!

The most serious implications of this constitutional change is to include race as a factor in the constitution. The other negative implication for the Malays is that they are unlikely to find a Malay candidate from the private sector with the ridiculous hurdles placed in the path. The only Malays candidates are likely to be politicians qualified by by passing the $500m criteria. The pool of Malay candidates eligible for the EP is going to be so small that it is going to become an embarrassment to the community with these new criteria.

Virgo49 said...


Once a PAP man always a PAP man. Once a China Man, will be Chinese Ghost.

Only Opposition men and sons of ex Opposition Men will become PAP men.

Who wants to knock your heads as eggs against the Rocks.

Instant good lives to become millionaires, who don't want???

How many like OTC who lived his life as ORIENTAL GENTLEMAN lived up to their Principles? ???

At least the Caucasians who do not have the teachings of been an Oriental Gentleman dared to defy their Higher Ups when they see injustices.

American judges derailed their PresidentExecutive Order.

Here, who dares to defile the PM's orders???

AG, CHIEF JUSTICE sitting same table.

Dared to defile Execute Order??

Kena Execute then you know.

From time immemorial, Asians, if you are born to be slaves, you shall be slaves.

Those who managed to join tbe Nobles will behave as Nobles and scorned the slaves.

So many ex-washerwomen sons became nobles, think they reflected and help the slaves??

No way! Don't want even to be remembered as slaves at all.

One can even said the slaves are exercising for picking garbage as FUN.

Anonymous said...

The pool of Malay candidates eligible for the EP is going to be so small that it is going to become an embarrassment to the community with these new criteria.
10:45 am

Just because you think it is an embarrassment to the community?

Can you win an election against the PAP?

If not, why would PAP, Malay PAP politicians or even the Malay community care what you think?

Anonymous said...


No point! Dont waste time!

Everyone is so very busy earning money just to survive in this very very expensive tiny city state!

Where to find time to debate about EP lah!

Jus can only kpkb kpkb and kpkb, at the end.......NOTHING! Only "Lan-Lan"!

This is Singapore! Singapore is like that! Dont know meh?

So........just try to be more happy and worry less!

And make-more-money 3Ms!

Hahaha.........

Anonymous said...

/// The most serious implications of this constitutional change is to include race as a factor in the constitution. ///
April 02, 2017 10:45 am

Singaporeans have proven ourselves to be non-racist.
Bukit Batok by-elections in May 2016.
Singaporeans (61%) voted in PAP's Murali (Indian) instead of Chee Soon Juan (Chinese).

But what about PAP?
The PAP Prime Minister is chosen by PAP not Singaporeans.
So if we always have a Chinese Prime Minister since 1965 ... what does this mean?

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/pap-s-murali-pillai-wins/2765380.html

Anonymous said...

Singaporeans have proven ourselves to be non-racist.....Bukit Batok by-elections in May 2016.
Singaporeans (61%) voted in PAP's Murali (Indian) instead of Chee Soon Juan (Chinese).
11:30 am

(Majority)Singaporeans voted for their self interest first, second, third...

Who would you prefer, Murali or Chee Soon Juan, to write your appeal letter to govt agencies?

Anonymous said...

Singaporeans have proven ourselves to be non-racist..
11:30 am

Of course, when it suits them. If you are Chinese and the public bus driver is non Chinese, you will still go up the bus, tio bo? So in this respect, you are non-racist lor.

But if a smelly Indian foreign worker sits next to you in the bus, will you get up to move elsewhere? If you do, then you are racist.

Anonymous said...

In Sept, for those who are on a 5 and a half day week, simply enjoy your half Sat off for this Charade.

Before closing time just go and marked a Big No on the slip.

For that matter, any future GE or PE, just simply VOID the slips.

No wasting time for what Rallies and Speeches.

The Politicians are the birds from the same Feathers.

After become Nobles, they would not want to be Peasants or Slaves.

Affected my lifestyles you know.

All bunch of self centred creeps.

Anonymous said...

The Politicians are the birds from the same Feathers....After become Nobles, they would not want to be Peasants or Slaves. Affected my lifestyles you know.
11:46 am

U talking about WP and why they mostly diam diam in Parliament?

Virgo49 said...


NOT only them but also the nodding Parrots in White.

The most talltative Female Parrot decry don't cut my Full Ration of Seeds.

I DONT WANT TO BE A Minister if you keep harping that my seeds are more than your shits.

Anonymous said...

But what about PAP?
The PAP Prime Minister is chosen by PAP not Singaporeans.
So if we always have a Chinese Prime Minister since 1965 ... what does this mean?
April 02, 2017 11:30 am

ya hor.
Why PAP always choose a Chinese to be Prime Minister ah?

Anonymous said...

@ April 02, 2017 12:35 pm

Do you think PAP should also change the PAP constitution?
So that other races can also be PAP Prime Minister?
Just like our Elected President?

Anonymous said...

Do you think PAP should also change the PAP constitution?
So that other races can also be PAP Prime Minister?
Just like our Elected President?
12:39 pm

Cheng Bock cannot and will not be Prime Minister so therefore PAP will not change the PAP constitution so that other races can also be PAP Prime Minister just like our Elected President.

Unless Cheng Bock becomes a leader of an opposition party which can contest 100% seats and is ready to be govt. Of course 93%, or even 100% chance this will not happen in Cheng Bock's lifetime. And this one PAP knows.

Anonymous said...

Of course 93%, or even 100% chance this will not happen in Cheng Bock's lifetime. And this one PAP knows.
12:57 pm

Of course Cheng Bock knows that he can never win an election against PAP in GE unless he is PAP.

At best he can only get 35% votes, which was what he got during 2011 PE. How to win a straight fight with PAP in GE with only 35% votes?

patriot said...


When it was said and claimed that Sin was not ready to have a Non- Chinese Prime Minister,
was that not Race Politic?


patriot


patriot said...


When it was said and claimed that Sin was not ready to have a Non- Chinese Prime Minister,
was that not Race Politic?


patriot


Anonymous said...

When it was said and claimed that Sin was not ready to have a Non- Chinese Prime Minister,
was that not Race Politic?
patriot 1:26 pm

Depend on who said lah. If the PM said, then it is not racial politic. If the opposition and others said, it is racial politic.

It is really about how strong you are, not how logical what you said or not said, or even what you do or not do.

It is the same everywhere lah, not just Sinkieland. Why do you think our neighbour Najib with all the 1MDB scandal still bo dai ji (no trouble) and going strong so far?

Anonymous said...

Why do you think our neighbour Najib with all the 1MDB scandal still bo dai ji (no trouble) and going strong so far?
April 02, 2017 1:35 pm

Ya hor. 1MDB lost so much money.
Lucky Temasek and GIC is better managed.

Anonymous said...

When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own palace, his goods are safe; but when one stronger than he attacks him and overcomes him, he takes away his armor in which he trusted and divides his spoil.

The tragic history of the Man of Sin

Anonymous said...

they think go geyland is the man of sin....hahaha

Anonymous said...

Whatever TCB say has already been said many months ago. That's why PAP immediately say no need to reply as nothing new. In other words, PAPies are saying that TCB is sleeping & blur fuck & don't know what the fuck going on.

Anonymous said...

Dunno this EP changing goal post saga whether the 35% Presi-Tan CB gonna kpkb now is no use. The 70% PAPies mandate of Ah Long San has got the people's mandate & fully harness & exercise his powers to change the EP goal post to his own advantage -- meaning tat Ah Long san knows about what's called The King's Right ( or in Chinese terms 懂得'帝王之道'). Poor TCB doesn't know this or was in a slumber when everything was changing & too bad he got to wait his turn for a ultimate fate , in Chinese terms he need to wait for an heavenly timing or ' 天时' or '风水轮流转'..TCB just need an an opportune time ...probably the next Malay EP will or not last a term ..or some form of a heavenly power coming to rescue Sinkies...

Anonymous said...

All object of worship bows. He is greater than the object of worship - the news often sing in praises of him and yet, they understand not or are blind like a stray dog hit in the eyes by a piece of juicy steak.

All object of worship retract under his mighty shadow.

Anonymous said...

...probably the next Malay EP will or not last a term ..or some form of a heavenly power coming to rescue Sinkies...
4:02 pm

The last Malay President Yusof Ishak died young at the age of only 60 in 1970, while still as President.

Maybe Halimah, now at 62 going 63, will from now on know how to take better care of her health.

So Cheng Bock, now 76, may need to wait for another 6 years at least, and which by that time he will be 82. Ko wu beh zao bo? (Still got horse power to run?)

Anonymous said...

Hike in water price 'absolutely necessary': PM Lee

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/hike-in-water-price-absolutely-necessary-pm-lee/3625084.html

Necessary for who ... you tell me lah.

Malay Elected President also absolutely necessary?
Necessary for who ... you tell me lah.

Virgo49 said...


The PAP has many strategies to win the PE even if TCB were able to stand for the Election.

By now you should know the fickle mentality of Sinkies.

There is no sure win for TCB even he fights one to one with the PAPies choice.

See even last GE, the PAP still won a handsome majority even the Opposition were supposed to offer better candidates and contested all constituencies.

What's made Sinkies so cock sure that TCB will definitely win if he contests.

The PAP knew how to catch the weak spots of their fully controlled sheepies by just performing
A dramatic show either bogeyman scared tactic or a truely sob episode to win over the sinkies fears or sympathies.

Alternatively, they can just dilute the polls by appointing many decoy candidates or throw some
some sweet goodies to sweetened their grounds.

The Daft sheepies will kwa kwa fall into their strategies

Anonymous said...

There is no sure win for TCB even he fights one to one with the PAPies choice...
...they can just dilute the polls by appointing many decoy candidates...
Virgo49 5:23 pm

U are 100% right, based on 2011 PE. TCB got only 34.85% votes, so where got sure win? If sure win, should get at least 50% votes mah, no matter how many corner fight.

And to the surprise of many, TJS could even qualify as candidate. Obviously this was to dilute the polls lah, because PAP, knowing the Sinkie majority voters well, was sure that TJS or TKL can never win one, just only to spoil the votes for TCB.

But anyway it was still a close shave for Tony Tan, that's why PAP, with 70% mandate to do what they want, decided not to take any chances this time.

patriot said...


Can anyone enlighten Sinkies
what can President Tan Cheng Bock do for Singapore and Sinkies?

If Tan Cheng Bock is serious about doing good for Sinkies, please prepare to stand as a candidate in the
Next General Election.
Do not covet for a PUPPET POST THAT HAS NO PURPOSE EXCEPT FOR WINDOW DRESSING.

OH YES,THE EMOLUMENT FOR THE SIN PRESIDENT IS IRRESISTABLE INDEED.

May l suggest to Dr Tan Cheng Bock sinxerely to have a talk with Lim Tean of NSP to work out
something for Sinkies


patriot




Anonymous said...

If Tan Cheng Bock is serious about doing good for Sinkies, please prepare to stand as a candidate in the Next General Election.
patriot 7:47 pm

U asking Tan Cheng Bock kee san see (commit political harakiri), is it?

See liau (like Chee Soon Juan) how to do good for Sinkies, u tell me lah?

Anonymous said...

May l suggest to Dr Tan Cheng Bock sinxerely to have a talk with Lim Tean of NSP to work out
something for Sinkies.
patriot 7:48 pm

loser + loser = winner meh?

patriot said...

Repost:

May l suggest to Dr Tan Cheng Bok sincerely to have a talk with Lim Tean of NSP ti work out something for Sinkies IF THEY ARE ABLE TO RELATE AND WORK WITH EACH OTHER.


patriot


Anonymous said...

loser + loser = winner meh?
April 02, 2017 8:05 pm

GIC + Temasek = winner meh?

GIC + Temasek = Warren Buffet meh?

Anonymous said...

oser + loser = winner meh?
April 02, 2017 8:05 pm

Million dollar salaries + PAP Ministers = Singaporeans will benefit meh?

Anonymous said...

70% + "What's wrong with collecting more money" = so many price increases in just 12 months

Anonymous said...

mental masturbation + natural aristocrats = frequent MRT breakdowns ???

The Dragon Fly said...

Cheng Bock, why took so long to speak up?

All the dafts, selfish-money-makers, brain-deads, robots, lap-dogs, running-dogs and zombies, why take so long and yet not speak up?

For those who speak up, why take so long and still remain as cowards?



Anonymous said...

Dragon fly, Knn u talk so much u very brave not coward meh? What did u do? At least Rb dares to disclose his identity to kpkb but u? Dragon fly? Where in Singapore got such name one?