Lawrence Khong – Belief versus Conviction

It is a message to the Church that we must arise and move as one on our convictions regarding personal purity and public morality, Marriage and Family. Howard Hendricks said: “A belief is something you will argue about. A conviction is something you will die for.” This was quoted by Lawrence Khong in his sermon on the LGBT.

I am not going to discuss Lawrence Khong’s crusade against the LGBT in Hong Lim Park and the wear white movement, to wear white as a sign of purity, as a sign of support for the PAP, family and morality and all the jests. I will just touch on the difference between belief and conviction as quoted by Lawrence Khong. He rightly said that a belief is a belief and is something that is for people to argue about. A belief is never the truth and you can argue till the cow comes home, it is still a belief.

What is important is a conviction, something that one can die for. One can have a conviction to want to defend a country like being a Singaporean and believing that this island belongs to Singaporeans. On the other hand one can have a contrary conviction that this island belongs to anyone that comes here. There are thus two elements, believing and conviction. Of course conviction is more important. If Singaporeans only believe but do not have a conviction to want to defend this island, the island will go to those who are here to take it. And the job would be much easier if the Singaporeans are willing to give the island away, or happily inviting the foreigners here to share their island.

One can also have a conviction on the right to free speech and may even die for it. One can have a conviction against gambling or any kind of crimes and wanting to fight and die for it. And of course one can have a conviction for a belief and wanting to die for the belief, like the crusaders and the IS believers.

The important thing is the conviction, not the belief or the cause one believes in. No conviction there will be no cause, no belief to die for.


Anonymous said...

“A belief is something you will argue about. A conviction is something you will die for.”

What's wrong with collecting more money?
Belief or CON-viction?

Anonymous said...

/// Even from my sick bed, even if you are going to lower me into the grave and I feel something is going wrong, I will get up. ///

Belief or conviction?

Do you think our MRT is wrong enough for a resurrection or not ah?

Anonymous said...

Whether it's belief or conviction, these 2 words r akin to chicken & egg story. To others they r same meaning : Belief=Conviction & vice-versa. Some may say without belief there is no conviction & vice-versa. Some say don't be too absolves or engross into these 2 words...but whatever it is this goes into a person own belief system ( depending on his religion) & his own personal conviction ( depending on his upbringing, influences, environment & surrounding circumstances)...

Anonymous said...

While I am not a Christian and remained as a free thinker, I have to agree with him for the sake of humanity. If we encourage or support gay/ lesbian activities or legal Union, the earth human population will decline and other species may well take over. The only riding our Organisation supports is riding at the girlie karaoke room. For those who are not sure what that is, just go watch in u tube.

Yew Kuang
Kuda Riding Club
Singapore Chapter

Anonymous said...

"If Singaporeans only believe but do not have a conviction to want to defend this island, the island will go to those who are here to take it."

Sure or not? Who are here to take this island? Rather, they are here to help PAP govt generate GDP growth mah, tio bo?

But even if in helping PAP govt to generate GDP growth, they also take the island, so be it lah. Better than they are not even here, or else Sinkieland will die from no GDP growth. So even if they take over the island, it is still the lesser of 2 evils lah. This type very hard to defend one, as hard as the Sinkie opposition being ready to be govt.

Anonymous said...

"And the job would be much easier if the Singaporeans are willing to give the island away, or happily inviting the foreigners here to share their island."
This is the truth. Need no conviction to believe it.

Conviction or belief are words. It arises from mismatch in interpreting the facts and the personal knowledge of the reader (read carefully on this statement).

Some old men had this belief: having head counts for paying nothing. They increased 2 millions head counts for a space of 50% NewYork. The sudden demand on foods, housing push up the prices. These old men had 60% increase in salaries reported in nytimes. Yet the voters are convinced with the conviction that they are helping them to increase income.
The mass increase in head count had to slow down. People voiced concern on extreme over crowding on overhead bridges near mrt stations, extreme break downs of hardware on mrt, extreme packed buses. The fantasies of having 10 millions is temporary put aside, waiting for anther chance to let go.

The problems start to surface. Jobs are not enough to share. Citizens have to give up jobs that are so low in salary. Once there was a $400pm per month worker at the peak of immigrants influx. The oldmen blamed citizens job seekers. Citizens job seekers blamed foreigners asking for too low. But the employment agencies made money to get in even cheaper workers, living in containers. There was a case came out where 2 workers died living in over crowded containers and warehouse. This was what the old men did. The fantasies ended with a Little India riot where police cars were overturned, and reported world wide.

The conviction on some old men s intelligence had never died down. One can read RB's blog and the comments. There are overwhelming people still believe (have the belief and conviction) on fantasies of increasing head counts NOT through birth.

NS men like me has given up the once loyal self to this city state. If foreigners turned enemies similar to the Little India riot charge at our flat doors, burn the doors, we have to jump down from the other side: mati also.

So dear conviction and belief, please wake up to interpret the reality when u cast the vote. Never vote for those old men who fantacise the easy way to have head counts, no need child birth, just take the adults, even botak heads. Then kena screwed. Even the Blangali also know how to collect money to start a group to stab someone from behind. DO NOT expect NS men to do miracle to defend this little dot. Run is the best option in crisis. Who dont know. Because there is nothing to share on this island. Even water is limited. Its Johor willingly giving up their water to stick to the contract to supply little dot water. Johor itself is short of water. While little dot is increasing water demand with 10 millions head counts. Conviction is so powerful and irrational.

Anonymous said...

Singapore is suffering from cancer.

Getting lots of foreigners to come here is the chemotherapy to treat it.

If the foreigners eventually take over the island, it is just the terrible side effects of chemotherapy. Cannot defend one.

Because without chemotherapy, die faster. So it is the lesser of 2 evils. Kpkb no use.

Anonymous said...

"The conviction on some old men s intelligence had never died down."
May 29, 2016 11:31 am

As Matilah points out, this is called "Necrocracy" - A government that still operates under the rules of a former, dead leader.

Anonymous said...

You must have the "correct" conviction.
Otherwise, you will be convicted.

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

Hi Yew Kuang,

Welcome to the blog. I am still puzzled by the riding in the girlie karaoke room.

Family is normal when there is a man father and woman mother. The LGBT should not try to make their new lifestyle as the new normal. No one is against them. They should just live and be happy with themselves and their lifestyle and leave those that are different from them to have their choice of lifestyle. The two can co exist without being antagonistic.

The world is big enough for everyone. The little red dot is also big enough for the LGBT to live happily and peacefully. I am not sure if we are big enough for everyone when we are 10m strong.

Anonymous said...

Talk all you want about belief and conviction.
The MRT train will still break down some time over the next 100 days.
And your cpf money is still not returned back to you in full.
And your HDB flat still belongs to HDB.
And you will still lose your job to an Alien.

And PAP will still be government.
Because you know you will always vote PAP.

Anonymous said...

PAP - Part Timers' Action Party

Anonymous said...

Did our locals Ah Beng, Ah Seng or Ah Lian, Ah Huay started the so-called LGBT in SIN city?
Or was it the new Ang Mohs intake that now wanted this sort of liberalization?

In my life of 65 years, have never heard of LGBT in SINfull city past the last decade.

Anonymous said...

"Singapore belongs to everybody"
- as long as they vote Opposition

Anonymous said...

The Part-Timers Action Party Theme Song(sung to the tune of Ghost-Busters)
When the train breaks down;
Who you gonna call?
The Part-timers

When dengue fever strikes
Who you gonna call?
The Part-Timers

When you lose your job
Who you gonna call?
The Part timers

Anonymous said...

Anon 12:02pm
Conviction on some dead men s own convictions is like speeding a car on the road by looking at the back mirror. A govt operates conveniently under a dead leader s rules is in similar driving skills. We have seen some old men holding election in peculiar ways: showing some dead man s video to gain sentiment from voters to vote in favor of his party as gratitude from the voters. However, the rules continue. The live ones are short of articulating what they want to do for the young in next 20 years. More difficult for the parents are those words that lingered: degrees are papers cannot eat; be hawkers; foreign talents help local by creating jobs etc.
But foreign talents charge very low salary, they dont want employer cpf, they dont want NS Incamp training.
Citizens dont want NS incomp training, dont want employer cpf to earn the job at equal terms, the govt disallowed.
No fair terms for citizens to look for jobs. The young must pay more on housing and earn less on jobs, and retire. Retire with 10 millions of foreigners and close to zero $ savings: that is what the consequence in next 20 to 30 years at 10 millions population.
Do not put in rioting that kind of unpredictable but sure can happen events.

The dead men s rules are driving the live men dead.
Any one can drive by looking at the back mirror as a convenience. But without considering the consequences.

Ⓜatilah $ingapura⚠️ said...

Public discourse on issues where it boils down to "religious dogma vs science" are important. They can be hot and irrational...but that is the nature of free speech.

I am a well-known supporter of LGBT causes, although I am just a boring straight male myself.

Those who are interested in this public conversation, and take either a "for" or "against" position with Khong and his ilk, might want to acquaint themselves with the OBJECTIVE FACTS. However it is my experience that this won't occur as the debate will invariably degenerate (if it hasn't already) to a "contest" of peoples COGNITIVE BIASES and long-held beliefs or convictions. Which is OK.

Those who find themselves on the wrong side of history eventually lose their battles. Old memes based on mysticism and superstition eventually die away as their believers get old and die.

The world is changing rapidly, and the remaining knuckle-dragging troglodytes will get their strokes, heart attacks and cancer...go "up lorry" to the crematorium where their shitty bodies will be burned, along with their shitty brains which for entire lifetimes held shitty ideas. That, to me in itself is uplifting and a great FACT to hang one's hope for humanity onto.

As a generation, the Millennials are the least religious. Churches and other religious institutions need to up their game to keep the numbers in the flock so that they can survive financially. However the global trend is a slow decrease in religiosity as present and subsequent generations are more exposed to science, and have the internet with them 24/7. These new aspects of modern life tend to decrease the bullshit factor and shatter the holding on to bad beliefs and factually WRONG ideas.

Anyway, to those who have an interest in finding out the truth for themselves, here's what you might to do:

1. Be able to distinguish between "gender" and "sex" (they are not the same)

2. Understand what "gender spectrum" is

3. Understand that homosexuality, bisexuality and transsexualism occur in NATURE (thus the argument that they are "against nature" becomes invalid immediately)

4. Understand that there is growing evidence of transgenderism in nature.

The above provided the scientific basis for the argument. After that a debater might want to aquatint themselves with the philosophical points namely:

5. Why are we picking on, and being mean to people who are "different" from us?

Happy discoursing. You older bigoted fuckers need to hurry up and make your cases, before you fucking die ;-)

Ⓜatilah $ingapura⚠️ said...

@ nonsense pithy sayings:

>> “A belief is something you will argue about. A conviction is something you will die for.” <<

In the brain (and thus in OBJECTIVE reality), there is very little distinction. This phrase is purely subjective.

Any fool can throw some words together to appear to be "smart" or "convincing" to the gullible and lazy-thinking.

What actually occurs is that all conscious precepts are neural correlates (abbreviated as NCC---neural correlates of consciousness).

Thus the above saying is no different from claiming that "Durians are better than apples"..."Because......and some bullshit story follows, because we relate to stuff in frameworks of "narratives".

Tell a good bullshit story. Mesmerize the masses.

Anonymous said...

5. Why are we picking on, and being mean to people who are "different" from us?
Happy discoursing. You older bigoted fuckers need to hurry up and make your cases, before you fucking die ;-)
May 29, 2016 1:48 pm

Stop suing the Opposition politicians.
They may have different views ... so what?

Anonymous said...

Stop suing the Opposition politicians.
2:02 pm

But why the opposition want to defame PAP? If they defame PAP, are they not asking to be sued?

Anonymous said...

Matilar, I think you have misunderstood the term against nature. If it occured in nature does not mean it's not against nature. Against nature mean whether in our world or other species world in the nature when same sex has a union, it's against nature as no offspring is produced naturally.

Best just ride in karaoke club, as gay is against the order of nature,.

Yew Kuang
Kuda Riding Club
Singapore Chapter

Anonymous said...

" Against nature mean whether in our world or other species world in the nature when same sex has a union, it's against nature as no offspring is produced naturally. "
May 29, 2016 4:01 pm

Homosexuality in nature is very common.



What about PAP MP sex with grassroots leaders?
Is it against nature or not?

Anonymous said...

Workers party got hope. Come to the West. There is no WP.

Low TK was challenged by Chen SM for the secretary general post. I fully support Chen s daring move. It is a warning to Low not to give in and compromise opposition party s image as a legitimate force to govern the City only 50% size of NY. NY needs only a governor, same as London. Low was telling the press WP was not ready to govern. His words becomes the LABEL sticking on all opposition parties: not ready to serve as government.

Chen was said to have 45 votes against Low 61. That is a very good results. Bravo to Chen, u got the guts to do big things.

Anonymous said...

PAP MPs, whether male or female
having sex with opposite gender is natural. And to many, it is also normal. When one's stomach is filled or full, next need is sex. It's perfectly normal and natural of beings.

It's perfectly in syn with nature.

Anonymous said...

Low TK was challenged by Chen SM for the secretary general post.
5:44 pm

No use lah, as long as WP is not ready to be govt.

I bet Aljunied will even be lost back to PAP in next GE if WP is still not ready to be govt by then.

Anonymous said...

The message by majority voters to opposition parties is very clear, even clearer after May 7.

If opposition parties are not strong and united to be ready to be govt, they can forget about winning.

Unless the leaders think the same like Chee Soon Juan, who said a party does not exist just to win elections. No wonder Chee Soon Juan never resign as SDP secretary general, despite losing every time, and for more than 20 years! Of course he blame PAP for that lah.

Anonymous said...

By 2020GE, the economy will be very bad. The mountains like debts by govt and private household debts on properties will have fermented to rotten smell. Foreigners PR are not giving up jobs, while citizens are losing jobs further to E passes new comers, and their properties on hands will have to go for FIRE sales.
Fire sales will be common in order to pay off the bank debts quickly due to poor jobs creation by Pap.

WP cannot avoid the call to form govt. Low TK is experienced and if he continues to play low low job scope as mp, he will be challenged again and again in WP as secretary general.
WP by then should grow bigger and should have spare candidates to take on seats in the West where people are waiting to vote for them other than the Pap.

2020GE is a crucial year to turn around as Pap will sink singapore further by adding new population as growth to GDP and spread the cost to other citizens to give up jobs, squeeze for hospital beds, and space like Mrt and walking path.

Anonymous said...

Politics is predominantly a male domain.

Hegemonic masculinity draws some of its historical roots from both the fields of social psychology and sociology which contributed to the literature about the male sex role that had begun to recognize the social nature of masculinity and the possibilities of change in men's conduct.This literature preceded the Women's Liberation Movement and feminist theories of patriarchy which also played a strong role in shaping the concept of hegemonic masculinity. The core concepts of power and difference were found in the gay liberation movement which had not only sought to analyze the oppression of men but also oppression by men.This idea of a hierarchy of masculinities has since persisted and strongly influenced the reformulation of the concept.

Empirical social research also played an important role as a growing body of field studies documented local gender hierarchies and local cultures of masculinities in schools,male-dominated workplaces,and village communities.Finally, the concept was influenced bypsychoanalysis.Sigmund Freud produced the first analytic biographies of men and showed how adult personality was a system under tension and psychoanalyst Stiller popularized the concept of gender identity and mapped its variation in boys' development.

When each group asserts to arrest power, it is like overpowering another male body in sexual dominance.

Such a state of affair is religiously condemned or your pillars will become... Salty(http://cretedefender.com/how-salt-damages-concrete/)

When you don't understand that, you will go on a wild moral goose chase.

Anonymous said...

Leave or be turned

Anonymous said...

In his 1992 book The End of History and the Last Man, Francis Fukuyama argued that the world had reached the end of socioeconomic development. Liberal democracy, he concluded, was the “last man,” the end point of this development. He could not have been more wrong. Today, the world’s great powers are no longer claiming to be the last man; all they can do is hope to be the last man standing.


Anonymous said...

Roots - Black slavery in USA.


What about National Service in Singapore?

Anonymous said...

Even in church, everybody loves the man of cock. Not happy in your church, leave and start your own cock church. Be the biggest cock in the land and run the biggest congregation.

The Man of Cock

Anonymous said...

So one big man of cock screwed the nation AH still...running loose, lessons went unlearned - business as usual protected by men of white cocks.

Anonymous said...

By 2020GE, the economy will be very bad.
6:34 pm

You mean the economy now not very bad meh? Or before 2015GE the economy also not very bad meh?

Anonymous said...

PAP sure win, and also no protests even in Hong Lim Park, even if the economy is very bad.

So what's there to worry, if you are a smart Sinkie who knows how to make lots of money under PAP, even if the economy is very bad?

Just worry that you don't know how to be smart.

Anonymous said...

4.38 pm, to answer your question, the mp and grassroots gal is not against the order of nature. It's not even against the law but it's morally not acceptable in our society.

RB, riding in karaoke mean lap dance by the gals lar.

Yew Kuang
I Kuda Riding Club
Singapore Chapter

Anonymous said...

Just want to make it clear as our central executive committee has urged me to clarify our club position on gays. Our club position is that
1) we are against activities that are against the order of nature.
2) we do not participate in the white shirts movement or actively go against the gays. But we do not condon the gays to be assertive in expanding their circle.

Hope the above is clear.

Yew Kuang
Kuda Riding Club
Singapore Chapter

Veritas said...

Gay are fucking dirty liar and there are concerted effort by world elites to white wash these dirty shit bag.

I going to blog more about fucking gay. Fucking gay are actually the MAIN vector for HIV, not hetereo-sexual. The scientish already establish this fact. For writing about gay HIV link, scientist were sued until pants drop.

The reluctantly, the scientific community lie. They lie that HIV are transmitted by hetereosexual as well.

Today, lie is so prevalent that you CANNOT event trust academic papers.

I am going to expose these fuckers.

Anonymous said...

Anon 10:10pm
The govt statistics can tell abit good or bad. Foreign Direct investment in 2014 was S$1024.6 mil. The statistics in 2015 only tells S$11.5 million on manufacturing. The figures does not put in % of change. In other words, there is something missing. FDI normally have about half for equity or shares. So the foreign investment in singapore is very scary low in 2015.

When FDI low means the net change was withdrawing funds from Singapore (Outflow). That means loss of jobs. Offices or shops close.
It will follow by households having less to spend on the malls and restaurants.

Present days, u open shops at geyland also cannot make money because the rental could be the main factor. 1 coffee shop in geylang used to be around $15kpm in 2013, go try out now if u can make money with the poor traffic or flat demand.

There is a po saying Pap know how to make money, and smart sinkies know how to make money. May be open shops at Orchard road facing or next to Istana can earn big bugs. The hotel next to it there has lots of units empty.

Besides the high rental, poor demand hits the retailers badly. Retailers like Metro, had good results disclosed not long, Isetan expected super good results. If they retrench staff, that will be a lot of empty space along the busy streets. Smart sinkies dont miss the prime locations.

There are property loans starting to charge interest on 3rd year or so. Next few years will be heavy to hold on to the empty condos or low rentals income. Some may let go at lower that purchase prices. Banks may have more force sales. So by 2020GE, a lot of people will be very rich. Some will be happy picking up cheaper properties ready for the next property rush.

By then election time, some Pap old men will start to sound out, if voters do not vote for rambutan, their properties prices will drop further. So the economy will boom again with 2 millions foreigners rushing in to find good jobs here and pay for the properties again.

May be the dead old man comes back to sell properties? Then the economy will always be up. Po said, smart sinkies always make money. No losing money. Properties or shares, all they make.

So unfortunate, not all can ask their parents to born them with good smart jene. Only the very selected smart sinkies can have smart jenes lah. But stupid or smart, vote for the opposition, will be the smart move that time in 2020GE.

Anonymous said...

For 11:24pm: A correction. The FDI figures should be billions not millions.

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

Thank you Yew Kuang. Oldies like me already lost touch with the vibrant world of fun. Lap dancing must be fun and natural of course: )

Virgo49 said...

A conviction is a cause where u will die for.

Many died for the wrong convictions as conned by those conmen who conned them into believing the beliefs into convictions.

Puzzling isn't? ?

b said...

Neoliberals promote LGBT because they invested heavily in pharma industry that fabricated drugs that control aids and more aids carriers means more money for them. Its all a con scheme in the expense of people lives and happiness.

The said...

The chicken and the pig making contributions to your breakfast - bacon and egg.
To the chicken, contributing to your breakfast is just a belief.
To the pig, contributing to your breakfast is a conviction.