A little disorder is good

We have seen the loan sharks upgrading their skills and tactics in chasing after their debtors. From pouring paints onto doors and letter boxes, they have upped their ante by burning cars. I am wondering what kind of training they would get next to make themselves more efficient and effective. Burning houses? Then Downtown East, a Halloween style bloodied body turned out to be real. Our youngsters are having too good a time, and couldn't find any purpose in life but to form gangs and patrol shopping centres looking and staring at one another. And if the staring gets too intense, they will be fumed to want to gorge out the other's eyes. More and more fights between the young and their gangs are appearing in the news. Maybe this is a welcome change that we need, to throw the country into a little disorder for the new generations to appreciate what orderliness is all about. Or maybe this is the new fun that the new generations want. More blood and gore in the streets. And gangsterism is a new way of life, a return to the stylo 60s. How did these happen and grow unrestrained? Just like loan sharks, a soft pair of hands will be seen as incompetence and weakness and nothing to fear. And with a law enforcing force that is so well educated and well mannered, it is tough to face up with the toughies, a kind of mismatch. And there will be the goody and kind hearted who would want to protect the waywards and the criminals as pityful people that need help and protection, need to be saved. Welcome a little lawlessness.


Wally Buffet said...

Once upon a time, Singapore was a lawless land with the triads in effect running the Island and the British colonialists doing the paper work. Every one was a "gangster" and fights were the order of the day. When people meet each other, they don't greet "Have you eaten?". They asked, "What gang do you belong to?".

With independence and a no nonsense government, these scums were eradicated forever (then) with the much feared PPSO (Preservation of Public Security Ordinance) much like our current ISA, detention without trial. Anyone walking on the streets with even a sliver of a tattoo was brought to the station and "worked" over. The whole civil landscape changed. The triads were crushed and the gangsters turned into good citizens and peace reigned over the country.

Now, we have a more relaxed crime enforcement culture. Tattoos all over the body is "art". Thugs are employed as loan shark enforcers terrorizing the population as they did during the bad old days.

I beseech the government to reign in the slack and punish rigorously anyone guilty of a heinous crime in a gang to restore the calm we once enjoyed. Sentencing in relation to the prescribed penalty is too soft nowadays.

Loan sharks runners or enforcers who harass or cause property damage and found guilty should be given a mandatory 24 strokes of the rotan. No deals can be cut.

Thugs running wild and going around slashing and hacking anyone should be charged with murder collectively and punished with the mandatory death sentence. Doesn't really matter if 10 are hanged for the death of one because there was gang mens rea.

This way, crime really doesn't pay.

Staring as a cause of murder? Don't be fooled. That is just only an excuse for carnage.

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

Hi Wally,

Today everything is about fun. Though I share your sentiment and to be tough to criminals, not everyone think alike.

We need a few more innocents to have their heads and arms chopped off before people think it is a serious matter. The loan sharks have been having a whale of a time, a party in fact, for so many years. But their threats and bullyings were tolerated as nothing serious.

Our tolerance of pain and pressure is much higher today.

Wally Buffet said...

Yeah, I'm sure some of the onlookers at Downtown East were giggling at the raging "battle" and thought it some kind of Halloween skit to kickstart the stupid American festivity.

Security must have been less than tight because it was a venue that families gather and no one would have thought that such a heinous crime can be committed there. Everyone thought Downtown East ain't Geylang.

Well, it sure ain't much fun if the victim was related to some of the onlookers'

The father of the victim asked to be left alone to grieve privately. But he had one parting remark to the press..........

"Let justice be done."


We expect nothing less than the mandatory death sentence for all 10 perpetrators if found guilty.

It is not just to alleviate the tragedy and the pain of the poor family but to spell out to like minded individuals or thugs that upsetting the peaceful life of the general population will definitely not be condoned.

Even in the deep bowels of Mongkok in Hong Kong where the world is given to understand through cinema that there is rampant crime and triad reprisals, nothing comes close to the drama that unfolded in a place where children and toddlers play.

In this, we pipped Hong Kong to be number one.

Anonymous said...

'Security must have been less than tight......'

Unless there are MIW around, don't expect security to be tight. They don't even care about fights unless someone makes a report.

Now, that says a lot about the NTU student telling the SM about his NS obligations and not knowing what he is defending anymore. You can't blame him since he is being paid so little for doing 'sai kang'.

The security personnels are quite well paid compared to NS conscripts. They should do a better job, without favouring or protecting only certain types of elites to the exclusion of lesser mortals, I would say.

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

The apathy to this killing is exactly what Lim Zi Rui felt. Nobody cares. This is no one's country, no man's land.

Anonymous said...

If any Singaporean is going to equate non-police security staff to police officers and expecting them(security staff) to enforce Law, then it is one expectation too much.

Commercial security services are engage to protect the premises and property of the hirer. NOT TO ENFORCE LAW.

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

You are right that the public cannot expect too much from the security guards.

The problem is the proliferation of young mobs into gangs and not knowing fear and the consequences of their actions. Sometimes you need to come down very hard on these violent youths to keep them out of trouble. No need to waste time on white elephants and innocent school children selling T shirts.

Wally Buffet said...

Yeah, you're right anon.

Security guards in Singapore are really a comical bunch.

There are exceptions and one of my friends could be one of the exceptions, judging from his statue and demeanour.

Some are so senile that they can hardly see what's in front of them and are so bent with age that even old folks' homes would have problems accepting them.

Some are "foreign talents" so what the fuck do they want to mess with gangsters carrying choppers? They may not return home to enjoy the big house that they worked so hard for.

My suggestion, if manpower shortage is prevalent in the industry is to recruit Nepalese, preferably ex Gurkhas. They may be short in statue but they sure would enforce the security of any premises to the letter. Security guards in Singapore like those in the United States should also be armed, maybe with a Taser to stop those morons bent on killing in their tracks with 100,000 volts of kickapoo joy juice.

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

They need to upgrade this profession and recruit professional guards, like Patriot, and pay them well, to do a better job.

Anonymous said...

Older Singaporeans are most likely to have seen or know that the Sikh watchmen of the banks up to the early seventies carried a rifle when they performed duties. They did not have to undergo certification trainnings.
Talking about security trainnings, it's another laughing matter. Those with primary education and sadly mostly in the vernaculars due to their age, undergo the same course with undergraduates from varsities who work part time to supplement their study and living expenses.
They wear the same uniform, do the same duty and are paid the same. So, here in Sin, there are many security personnels as described by Wally, not only they are physically unstable, most could hardly write simple entries in their reporting.
However, the greatest joke must be that they're expected to perform anti-terrorist duty when our top security remand centre was not able to prevent a limping suspect from escaping, lol......
Secrity personnels are not public servant nor vested with any power to enforce law, THEY'RE NO DIFFERENT FROM YOU AND ME.

Anonymous said...

2/NB. Before I continue, may I say here that my second and third continuations were disrupted and I am reposting again, what happened was beyond my knowing.
Private security personnels face much challenges in their works, they face challenges, threats and abuses by public, their employers and hirers.
Most have to stand throughout their duties under any weather. Members of the public demand helps from carparkings to help out in their shoppings, keeping eyes on their personal belongings, toddlers and babies. Senior staff even want guards to park their vehicle and other duties unrelated to security.

Wally Buffet said...

Whoa.........guys, just read from the online edition of the Straights Times that 3 perps were charged with murder of Darren Ng. The other perp is now in the ICU ward of CGH because he sustained head injuries while resisting arrest.

From the online page, I could see some pictures and there was this one, pic number 9 that really caught my eyes. See HERE.

This victim's friends looks like they sport tattoos too and if so, this appears to me like a gangland fight over something, money, girls, turf, who knows?
So it appears there is more to it than just a simple starring incident.

Be that as it may, slashing and hacking is passe and anyone who indulges in this trip of brutality will have to face the long arm of the law.

Just a little word of our Men in Blue, the city's finest. When you make petty complaints to the SPF, there will be muted responses because of manpower shortages and also because of the frivolous nature of complaints nowadays. But when a serious crime like this takes place, they will surely rise to the occasion and nab the perpetrators. Good job, well done!

A charge of murder with mandatory death sentence. Now, these guys sure need a good lawyer. A criminal lawyer, not one who drafts conveyancing most of the time or talks cock without much substance. Sad to say that the good criminal lawyers you can find in this city state of 5 million are all you can count on both the fingers of your hand.

Since I have so much time on my hands, I may want to be a good pro bono criminal lawyer specializing in rape and molest cases defending innocent guys caught by Delilahs in love traps. How's that guys. Gimme your opinions.


Wally Buffet said...

Sorry about the double posting.

This blogspot service gets cranky when comments are too long.


Wally Buffet said...

Mr. Bean,

What's with the new format in your main page?

Very difficult to post leh.

Wally Buffet said...

Oops, sorry Mr. Bean.

Nothing wrong with your page. It's my friggin' computer. Guess I will have to give it to my maid and go to Sim Lim Square to get a new one.


Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

Lucky you found out the problem. Or else I will have to knock at the door of the service provider.

The pictures are gory. Feel very sad for the parents to have raised up a young man and to go this way. My tolerance for such criminals is very low. Of course they have their parents who care for them and will be aghast if we cry for tough punishment.

Anonymous said...

I had problem posting too, resulting in my long continuations of parts 2 and 3 went missing.
It was not the usual format on my set as well.
Smething was/is 'friggin' abnormal.

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

I am looking at my screen but nothing different so far. Maybe is connection problem. Sometimes my header picture did not show but came back later.

Anonymous said...

Okay, take your words.

A little disorder is good.

Someone maybe very interested with your site le !

Wally Buffet said...


Maybe big Brother is watching.and monitoring. But no matter, we are just some silly kpkb old men just passing away time instead of staring at the ceiling with nothing to do.

I can discern some good coming out of this slaying.

These days those baddies that I see hanging out at watering holes are avoiding eye contact. Maybe they think that brazen eyeballing may lead to their last.

Yup, the victim and the perps' families would feel for their sons and be aghast at the severe penalties. But the law is the law and they should have thought about the aftermath before they ran amok.

Wally Buffet said...

I am posting fromt my Changi point tent. Hope you guys can read it clearly.

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

Ya I know. Your posts a bit salty: )

Wally Buffet said...

I think it's more tipsy than salty!

Now where is that bottle of Chivas?

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

That you must ask Matilah. It's a bit too early to hit the bottle man.

agongkia said...

Sad to hear about the case and my sympathy goes to the vitim's family.
Howevr ,let the investigator do a proper investigation and the judge to decide what is the best punishment.
We should not influence their judgement base on hearsay to say that it started becos of a staring incident.

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

Yes Agongkia, you are right.

This case is not simple as it looks. Whatever, people who played with choppers must be chopped.

Anonymous said...

Carrying choppers around to chop up someone is premeditated murder. Yeah, I agree that there is more to it than a simple ataring incident.