5/04/2009

Just a thought

If a deviant sect that is banned or not accepted by society to form its own organisation officially, would it be nice to sneak into another organisation and make that organisation its front organisation? By quietly getting all its members to join an organisation, in no time, that organisation will, unconsciously become the official organisation of that sect. This is a thought that just came to me after meditating for hours on the unfolding of recent events. It can happen right? This is not much different from money laundering.

22 comments:

Anonymous said...

You are so unoriginal. Dr Thio has already put a patent in for the backdoor method of infiltrating organisations.

redbean said...

uh, i think they were too slow and behind time.

CatFightLover said...

Wa! You really have a lot of time to think up of such conspiracy theories uncle.

But I agree with you it's totally conceivable and possible. In fact, a lot of things happening in this world are conspiracies. Take this H1N1 hullabaloo for instance. It's just like any ordinary flu which kills about 300,000 people worldwide annually. Yet, a few deaths in Mexico and everyone goes ballistic with the media being the main culprits. What's their agenda?

Just a thought.

Anonymous said...

The more the merrier as long as they do not make things messier.

They will add diversities and colours to our society.

Livings here are a little stale, boring, routine, even perfunctory.

patriot

Janice said...

I have the same thought as you. Beside, somebody already mentioned to them that they are free to set up another sect. They may think, "why not?" Collect members's money, then spend it every month.

Matilah_Singapura said...

That is the problem with banning or censoring ideas, groups opinions etc.

What happens is that these ideas, groups,opinions ideologies etc. go 'underground'.

Persecution, banning, outlawing and censorship has very bad results — you push people to become deceptive and evasive, and in many situations more militant.

Choose your battles wisely. Force is never a good idea and should only be reserved for actual threats (physical), and not used against anything that doesn't harm a person directly.

Ideas and opinion don't cause harm in and of themselves. A human being has to first accept an idea, and perform actions based on that idea.

A society that seeks to ban and censor 'outrageous' or 'unsavory' ideas and the people who believe in them is doomed.

Father Damian said...

Brilliant thought.

But really, I haven't decided which camp should be exorcized.

Who are the good guys and the bad guys? Or should I say gals?

I really don't know. I am still meditating on this. Hope I will gain some enlightenment soon.

redbean said...

hi father damian, welcome to the blog.

it is better not to take the side of either group. better to take the side of issues. that's my stand.

Jaunty Jabber said...

Hi Redbean,

I am following your blog everyday even when I may not be putting up a comment everyday. I am following your blog because you seems to speak whatever that I could have in mind too, and of course you did it nicely with your good choice of words and your flair in message delivery.

Your topic today grabbed how I feel about that will likely take place after the whole saga.

My take on the old exco's winning votes, is receiving no clap from me.

To me, bad people are usually more suspicious, more sensitive, more defensive and ever ready to war.

When one did not do anything bad, one don't need to be suspicious of other people's intent when others haven't even lift a finger, simply rising an eyebrow will set an evil- heart on its nerves.

Bad people also tends to over-react whenever there is a slight sniff of rat, they are ever prepared with loads of defensive gears and also ready to start a war anytime should they feel that their position is in any form of threat.

The good always believe that it is never too late to fight back a justice. Never in a need of hurry to proof anything, the truth will be out. The good sometimes have to tolerate bullies until the right day comes, and if the right day will never come, at least the soul will die with dignity.

redbean said...

hi jaunty, you seem very passionate over this issue. just be an observer and don't be too worked up. take life as it is, like a comic movie. that will make you feel better.

CatFightLover said...

Yup, Jaunty, don't be too worked up like Redbean says. Just follow your own convictions. No need to believe either camp.

Most importantly, be cool, view everything with EQUANIMITY.

I too like Redbean's lifestyle. He has a hobby (photography), He has a passion (writing what he believes in), He has a cool temperament. He is very relaxed. This blog also my favourite now.

redbean said...

thanks catfightlover and jaunty. the good thing about a blog is that all like minded people will tend to gather together as they usually share something in common.

i used to say, wine lovers will go to wine shop, coffee lover to coffee bean, tea lover to tea house.

cheers everyone.

Matilah_Singapura said...

I believe it is more effective to be dispassionate and move more toward reason and logic to solve issues of conflict.

The ideas of 'good' and 'bad' lie in the purview of morality — which is always a personal matter originating from the individual world view. Consciousness is a process (ongoing — actually many inter-related processes — chemical, electrical, biological and bio-mechanical). The scientific evidence seems to point to the brain as the organ responsible for 'mind' and 'consciousness'. Slight variations of the various inputs (which vary in each individual) in the processes can result in varying outputs.

Therefore it is unlikely that our experience of existence or 'world view' will be the same for every person, although we might agree broadly and generally on certain ideas; for e.g. that molesting children or bullying old people are not 'good' ideas,and in a moral construct such acts are 'immoral'.

Of course there is still much more to and much more to discover about our minds, brain and consciousness than my extremely simplistic 30 second opinion above.

Trying to figure out whether other people are 'good' or 'evil' is IMO impossible because that involves delving into their own billions of processes and trying to judge their 'intent'. Spiritual literature (which I do not subscribe to) warns about the futility of human beings trying to judge each other's intent. Perhaps the so-called 'holy' books are trying to tell the 'true-believers' something. Judgment also invokes too much emotion. To figure out the answers and to get to the truth requires reason and logic, put into argument and persuasion.

Jaunty Jabber said...

Hi Matilah

Your scientific analogy on human perception over 'good' & 'bad' is informative. The tone of your comment today is amicable, quite different from your usual style - hees = )

Hi Catfightlover & Redbean,

Thank you for your advices, actually I didn't get my nerves to work up that much, maybe just a little bit. My nerves are calm whenever I come to this blog, when I see that no one here had ever question the intent of my comments over Aware saga. I see from you guys the respect and some sort of trust towards whatever I said. Thank you for your ear (eyes).

Matilah_Singapura said...

Jaunty, I'm a person of many character traits, I assure you :)

That makes it hard to 'put me in a box', so to speak.

Matilah_Singapura said...

P.S. The brief explanation of human consciousness and 'good and evil' are not my ideas exclusively.

You can search the web for the in depth science (evolutionary psychology, origin of the universe etc) to back up my simplistic 30-second model. Or you can do your own thought experiment: "Suppose you don't believe in a supreme creator, how then would human consciousness evolve?"

Michael Shermer is a name you might want to search.

Jaunty Jabber said...

Hi Matilah

That's very nice of you to share things you read with me and the other readers here. I will be clicking on to find out more, I am interested in subjects about humanity & psychology.

Thanks !

Matilah_Singapura said...

Most welcome.

redbean said...

matilah, you look so handsome: )

Matilah_Singapura said...

Do really think so? Or are you just saying that to get on my good side? ^_^

redbean said...

you don't like me to praise you huh?

Matilah_Singapura said...

Not at all.

But if you have a nagging psychotic need to praise why don't you visit your nearest place of delusion (aka temple, church etc) and praise god/gods/godesses/devils/spirits/santa clause/whatever... for creating me ;-)