1/15/2013
Chee Soon Juan the new Zhuge Liang
Chee Soon Juan said he knew that his proposal would be rebuffed by the WP. And he sent his proposals to the WP three times and was rebuffed three times. This was similar to Liu Bei visiting Zhuge Liang three times in order to show his sincerity. Liu Bei’s sincerity was accepted and Zhuge Liang went on to serve him. In Chee’s case, the WP did not accept him.
The brilliance of Chee is shown in this instance in that he knew well in advance that he would be rebuffed. I think not many people are so talented to know of the future, of an act and its consequences. ‘We knew all along…’ So why would he go on and on to send the proposals to WP? To show his sincerity not to the WP but to the voters that he had tried and was sincere to want to negotiate with the WP in a win-win-win situation? One thing for sure, to the WP, his proposal was a lose-lose-lose all the way. I think this part Chee did not know.
Now maybe Chee could tell us if he knows what would be the result should the SDP contest this by election. He must know too, I think. And since he is going to send in the SDP candidate, very likely he would have known that the SDP would win. Otherwise there is no point wasting so much time and effort, and maybe even losing the deposit.
Is the SDP’s plan to contest this election a win-win-win-win-win for all the candidates?
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whenever i look at chee soon juan, i'm reminded of victor khoo's puppet charlie. csj resembles charlie. i do hope csj is just a loose cannon and not the pappie's puppet.
Frankly speaking, I think people like CJ and Kenneth Jeya are poor to be politician. What is the point of contesting when you will benefit the PAP and end up most likely losing your deposit. Seems that they dislike the WP more than the PAP which reflect their shallow mindedness at this stage.I can understand their wariness that WP is gaining in strength but at this critical juncture, a seat taken away from the PAP is the best way to apply pressure on the ruling party whereas all other talks and ideas are empty in reality.
They are trying to commit suicide and end their political career with such stupid decision. However, it may be best for Singapore in the long run if we have just 2 or 3 major political parties in the future.
This is really "kong lan chiau way".
Of course he knew in advance his beyond stupidity scheme (in the worst sense of the word - scheming) would not be acceptable. Any idiot except CSJ would know - maybe he sincerely though it was a win-win-win situation. A win for SDP, a win for CSJ and a win for whichever candidate SDP sends.
How about CSJ and I both buy that $2 million 4,349sf EC penthouse. CSJ alone pay that $2 million, I stay in the master-bedroom, and he stays in the store-room and do all the house work. Fair compromise, right?
rb - Zhuge Liang is turning in his grave - please don't insult the dead.
About that Chee By-election proposal - what can I say? (Stomping feet furiously)
Redbean,
I am a snr citizen. You have given CSJ too much respect.
All the years I have thought that he his not a strategist. His rashness in usurping SDP from CST, his encounter with GCT and the govt showed his shallowness.
A leader with no knowledge of applying strategy will only leads his followers to doom and having a doctorate does make him a smart man in his case.
You should give this Zhuge Liang title to LTK instead. The "wily fox" being the success of WP.
Perhaps Punggol East maybe the Waterloo for SDP and Reform Party
when voters think they are just opportunists and nothing more.
I always maintain that By-Election is not a playground for all opposition parties. If oppositions are sincere to serve the residents there, only one party should contest. Period.
Redbean,
Is Dr Chee lunatic ? He is trying to delude himself into believing that it is
WIN-WIN-WIN-WIN-etc when it is WIN for himself only when in fact, it is
LOSE-LOSE-LOSE-LOSE-etc in any way for him and his party
LOSE - cause WP to lose by election, let PAP win.
LOSE - Lose all the goodwill, reputation, branding that SDP doing all along
LOSE - Lose respect from former SDP voter like me, will no longer attend their election rally nor show support for SDP but still vote SDP nonetheless to show displease over PAP.
LOSE - lose deposit in by-election. Supporter's money goes down in drain for nothing into PAP govt, and it does not even make sense
LOSE - Lose face for Dr Chee, but think again, does Dr Chee even have a face ? Oh Yes, a LOSER'S FACE.
LOSE - Dr Chee is not only Loser but a LOOSE CANNON, that will blow and screw everything good that the party has done so far on the ground that the party become a laughing stock in coming election.
LOSE - How the hell those talents that join Dr Chee isn't stop his crazy act is beyond understanding. Could those talents be as daft and comical as Dr Chee ?
the list goes on and on.
Dr Chee may like to read up more about the sychology of politics before playing politics.
Redbean,
you know that PAP moles or agents does not even need to explicitly work for PAP, they will just be considered one if they are the instrument used by PAP to promote its interest and obtain predicted outcome to PAP's advantages.
Redbean,
What do you think ?
"Dr Chee may like to read up more about the sychology of politics before playing politics."
There is a line between playing politics and playing a fool of himself. and Dr Chee has crossed that line of been that fool of no return. Remember him as a fool that never learn from lesson, and he is no different from PAP.
aiyoh, why bother talking to the WP. They are only interested in their own lah..Ka Ki Nang lah..
csj's strategy is a win for the pantat doctor and a win for the pappies.
"Chee Soon Juan said he knew that his proposal would be rebuffed by the WP. And he sent his proposals to the WP three times and was rebuffed three times. This was similar to Liu Bei visiting Zhuge Liang three times in order to show his sincerity."
Hey, need to keep up with time. That time has no internet and so this act did not go widespread, hence Liu did not get laugh at since only a few people knew about that during his time.
BUT in internet era, the whole damn world know about Dr Chee's comical and circus act immediately. Immediately kena condemned already, and now wiggle his way out to save his face with more nonsense.
Liu Bei went to see Zhuge Liang 3 times.
CSJ sent e-mail to LTK 3 times.
So CSJ = Liu Bei
Not Zhuge Liang.
Redbean's judgement is obviously failing in calling CSJ the new Zhuge Liang. Far from it. I think CSJ could b working for the same govt agency the Recalcitrant Singaporean was from
and was released from bankruptcy to destablize the opposition.
Ok, ok, I take back my words. I know nobody will agree to what I said. : )
I said it before, and I'll say it again.
The correct analogy in Singapore is the Battle of Wuzhang Plains in the book the Romance of the 3 Kingdoms. 五丈原之戰
In this analogy, LKY is Zhuge Liang.
And LTK is General Sima Yi.
And we are now at the stage where Sima Yi is venturing out of his stronghold in Hougang, to lead his troops forward into PAP's GRC.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Wuzhang_Plains
Redbean,
this is the proof that Dr Chee is no ZhuGeLiang. Even Zhu BaJie the pokey pig is better than Dr Chee because the pig doesn't even try to act smart when he stupid.
The real ZhuGe Liang will always selectively choose the battle to fight with highest chance of winning.
The fake Zhuge Liang will always fight any losing battle because he don't know what the fuck is going on and he don't care. Not his money, not his business, not he die, only his interest come first.
Get it ?
Aiyah, folks, redbean is up to his usual monkey tricks again. Doing a parody of CSJ - I know you won't accept my asinine proposal and I know you know that I am insincere, but I am going to try anyway. And try three times some more.
RedBean,
I like your sarcasm in comparing Zhuge Liang to CSJ, whose head is probably very swollen by now with his brilliant strategy of denying the WP Ponggol East.
In any case, SDP has just announced that it will not contest in Punggol. Good decision by CSJ.
It is the right thing to do. With that I hope he had sent a clear signal to others to stay away, giving a one to one fight to WP. Well done!
So, CHEE says BYE to BY-erection.
If KJ insists on contesting, he will lose his deposit.
Congrats, Li Lian, on your overwhelming victory.
Let's pop the champagne.
Ha ha ha, get caught. 3 steps
forward one step backward.
SDP has withdrawn.
I think CSJ and KJ are suffering from lack of attention by their parents so they tried to get a lot of attention from the people. They cannot keep cool and think straight when there are changes in settings. They should quit politics. Maybe writing books or blogs will be more suitable for them.
Tony Tan would not be president now if the non-PAP backed candidates had decided that only one of them should run against him. i hope the other opposition parties learn from this lesson. because so many others wanted to run, Tony Tan is our president.
Puppies laughters are now turning into fear.
Thanks to CSJ unthinkable twist and unanticipated antics; not Zhuge Liang but same effective psychological effects. The "fool" has confounded the wily Harry & Woody bankruptcy release "the sabotage, divide n conquer" trick.
WP will win this by-election as LTK faithfully placed a sincere Sing lady to bring an elite doc out.
Another bite the dust for the doggie.
MIW party released Spoiler and called by election trying the same split the votes & TT wins President election strategy approach.
Spoiler acted as predicted, but last minute reversed gear and pulled out. Spoiler becomes the Strategist and outsmarts the million $ salaried paper generals & their AhKong.
A mee-pock no hum show, showing live.
Dr Chee repent at the last moment. Commendable. Now the time for PAP to repent.
If you read his statement it was clear that the central committee overruled him. He was still sticking to his great strategy to win this election in a 5 counter fight. You must take your hat off for his bravado or stupidity.
Thank God the central committee has the better sense to put his game plan into the dustbin.
Redbean,
the following applies to Dr chee
Dr Chee is 傻人有傻福.
He is stupid but he is lucky to have few respected high quality team members to bring some sense into him. Unfortunately he prove himself to be another old fart, which without respected fellows to advise and bring him into right track, will go onto destructive mode which is danger to everyone and the country. He appear to be another double-head snake like old fart, though it remains to be seen whose fart is smellier, his fart or old fart.
Think about what old fart and his party degraded into once the old guards goes away.
What do you think ?
Redbean, Posters of both Vincent & Paul pointed more towards a deliberate strategy to gain more media exposure for SDP and mount a last minute surprise reversal to catch Party After (very high)Pay off-guard.
WP impending win in Punggol will strengthen every major Opposition parties. A small Win-win-win outcome for a bit more checks & balances to extreme politician pay & extreme FT influx & extreme non-accountability & extreme powers.
Given his highfalutin nonsense and DNA, I'm afraid Dr Chee can only win at erection not election. Sad to say, until he changes his behaviour and mature for better and for good, he is still a time bomb for his party especially when he become overly-excited and opportunity arrived, with extraordinarily act of clownish comedian act that worthy of Singapore Idol programme.
Dr Chee,
please don't let us nickname you "Chee BbbYyyEee" to describe you, for you deserve better. There is still time to reflect on your own behaviour and antic before the next nation election.
in the meantime,
Chee bye to the by-election, oh , the bye is a verb not a noun.
Dr Chee,
you should learnt to be like Apple, just like WP with some sense of secrecy and mystery, without revealing your true intention, and let PAP be the guess-game. By trying to be funny, your party endup been 1 step forwards, 3 steps backward. Do you think it is worth it ?
"WP impending win in Punggol will strengthen every major Opposition parties. A small Win-win-win outcome for a bit more checks & balances to extreme politician pay & extreme FT influx & extreme non-accountability & extreme powers.
And most importantly, it ensure that Punggol unlikely to fall under GRC. If punggol under PAP, cuckoo only can see that it can fall under GRC because PAP is all about YES-MAN, and their MPs is YES to what their master dish out.
bearing in mind in this by-election, the PAP does not need to smear the opp party, but instead praise them high enough to feed their ego into going to multiple corner fights. PAP is capitalizing on the ego of opp party to win this by-election.
This would have been a perfect opportunity to test-drive the SDP, as well as give another promising party, as well as a strong political candidate, a chance to learn about being a good MP.
Red bean, u got it wrong。its not csj of sdp its Kenneth from RP. Sad to see him lose his deposit though he can afford it.
Kenneth is inconsequential.
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