11/03/2014
Singapore joining coalition against Islamic State
Just reported in Parliament, ‘To combat the militant group, Singapore will contribute assets that were previously deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan, Defence Minister Ng Eng Hen says. CNA.
The unavoidable happens. There is no way Singapore can avoid joining the coalition once it is in bed with the Americans. The Americans would make sure that it will happen or Singapore would be accused of taking a free ride. But Eng Hen assured the House that it would be a contribution in assets, with the assets now in Iraq and Afghanistan redeployed to the new theatre. No ground troops would be In Iraq or Syria. All precautions and necessary training would be provided to our soldiers to keep them from harms way. How effective would this be is yet to tell when the war zone could expand and contract and cover anywhere.
What is more dangerous is back home or Singaporeans happily travelling all over the world on business or as tourists. This war against the IS transcends all national boundaries. We need to warn Singaporeans everywhere, including stepping up vigilance back home. This is no ordinary war and violence can pop up anywhere. Australia and Canada have a taste of it in the heart of their homeland. It is a war without borders.
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Courageous decision, indeed!
We fight them there, so that we DON'T have to fight them HERE;
And if We do have to Fight them Here, we will know How to Kill Them before They Harm Our Loved Ones. Trust me.
Of course must show some support if want to rub shoulders with the big boys. Anyway, there is no space to store up those equipment in this small island so it is best to move them to other parts of the world.
We fight them there, so that we DON'T have to fight them HERE;
November 03, 2014 4:32 pm
Are you a PAPig?
Who is "we" who is going to do the actual fighting?
Sinkies or PAPigs?
PAPigs only knpw how to fight.
Don't know how to listen.
Great opportunity for the white horses to show leadership, to lead by examples.
Fight for what?
What do I own here in Singapore that is so valuable?
HDB flat belongs to HDB?
University scholarships go to foreigners.
Jobs go to foreigners.
Fight for what?
Yew mad ah?
Itchy backsides. Now check in for flights out of sinkies land got to strip to nakedness just for security screening for shadows of ISIS.
Chia par too free
In the first place this ISIS thing was created by the US and western powers messy meddling in the ME.
It is dumb for an Asian country to get involved on the side of the US. It will only bring unnecessary problems.
Isn't is more factually correct to say 'PAP government is joining coalition against Islamic State" ?
Why no referendum ah?
Why no vote in parliament ah?
This may be the fatal screw to their coffin in the coming GE.
Whether ISIS had different sects fighting each other, they also in the same Islamic faith.
Thus, they gonna lose precious votes in antagonising some voters here.
Let them killed all these western devils who started these mess in the first place.
Are Hongyi and Tony Tan's son in the contingent?
Wah, Ah Loong is so garang! Don't hold back then. Why spend a quarter of our budget on all the high fangled military hardware? For NDPs only? But since he opened his fat mouth promising to help combat terror, he must do something, otherwise it will only show lip-service. Good show, well done, chop chop.
I want to fight for all the HDB flats that belong to HDB.
I want to protect all the jobs that belong to the foreign talents.
I want to stand up for my CPF money that is being invested in foreign countries and foreign shares.
I want to die for my $8 heart bypass.
All the above is worth dying for.
Foreign talent to die for:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-11-02/bofa-banker-arrested-hong-kong-double-murder-two-prostitutes-one-victim-was-stuffed-
We are in real hot soup now!
Thought it is an issue amongst the Middle East Countries and the US.
Even countries facing Islamic insurgencies such as China and Russia do not get involved in the Conflict.
Hijacking this post..just cause.
A few things I would like to mention as I feel that there is a dire need to connect with like minded individuals, wrong or right (for arguments sake).
4 things,
1) Never feed the trolls.
2) There are anonymous forums to blog (8chan/anonme/etc) - try it.
3) Trolls have relatively low IQ - no real motive as they are built to disrupt progression and hinder constructive conversations.
4) You display extremely dark sigma male traits - very impressed
This month, I will be embarking on a journey as of part of my project to actively participate in political discussion online and hopefully make something out of it in my desperate final attempt to understand the PAP and any potential future leaders before I set the wheels into motion to bail on the Singaporean passport.
My question to you is, in this sorry political state of singapore when everything the government is infact a joke, couple with this generations of apathetic GYPSYs (Gen Y Protagonist Special Yuppies), less than a TOTAL government overhaul, do you see a way out of all these?
PS: I would love to see you, raymond and the rest of the avid commenters/lurkers on a panel show (like QI or 8/10 cats) one day and laugh and discuss about politics openly.
One last thing a good friend once told me - if you wish to travel fast, travel on your own. if you wish to travel far, travel together.
wonder if raymond n rb are twins?
Rb .... u mata reports.. mata mata ask u to submit ip addresses anot?
Will rb remove this like papigs adminstrators?
/// We fight them there, so that we DON'T have to fight them HERE; ///
November 03, 2014 4:32 pm
We fight Yew here so that we DON'T have to fight them THERE.
Fighting on the winning side is always a great thing and a lot of cheering to go with. The Americans enjoyed many great moments of triumph when they could cheer their heroes and feel on top of the world as victors.
The glitch is when some Americans are paraded on TV wearing orange suits like in Guantanamo and waiting for their throats to be slit.
Joining this war can be very painful when such things happened.
wouldn't this public expression of support for the US-led coalition expose Singapore as a possible target for ISIS jihadism in the region?
is this necessary?
or are we succumbing to US pressure?
This is the price we are paying for sleeping with the devil. It is in the interest of the Americans to commit and expose everyone in order to distribute the targets for attacks by the IS.
@1044:
>> less than a TOTAL government overhaul, do you see a way out of all these?
Here I disagree. A nation's politics is an emergent property from the culture of the people.
Bear i mind that everyone elected to office comes from the nation's culture and stock of people -- people who grow up with each other, interact on many levels, and contribute to the normativeness of thinking, behaviour, language food, artistic expression etc.
For e.g.: if one attempted to implement an American-style freedom-liberty-individualism FIRST political system in say, China, it will be an epic failure.
Similarly if you tried to impose a Confucian, one-party "benign dictatorship" into say Canada or Australia, there will be riots.
The PAP know ho to read the ground and are master at psychological manipulation of the masses -- or a significant portion of the masses, enough to guarantee election victories.
Changing the government will not do much. You may get some reforms here and there, but overall, it will be business as usual.
@Matila_Singapura
Besides the fact that I'm almost sure you are non-medically dyslexic like me, I think that is a eloquent way to put it.
A nation's politics is an emergent property from the culture of the people.
What if our "culture", as it may seem, to be pro-(certain)foreigners and totalitarianism? Are we then doomed?
Has my dear founding father built my country with his sweat and blood just to hand over to the white supreme leaders when he passes on?
Everything that he has done till date - with the half assed training and selection for our "new" out of touch cabinet to the internet guerilla [citations needed] attacks on vocal netizens, it seems to me that he is deliberately plotting the demise of my generation.
He raves about social darwinism like L. Ron Hubbard on humanity but fails to understand the very basic fundamentals of social evolution is credited to reproduction, the continuous improvement of a organism in a controlled environment without adding new elements that will jeopardise the first - otherwise it would just be an extermination.
If you actually stand by what you are saying, we need a new form of governance that is unprecedented in the human history, only then will we succeed. My question to you is, how are you, as a individual contributing to that vision of yours on a day to day basis?
PS: I just watched the books of mornons last month and me mind was blown into SHREDS.
We cannot have paper generals with no war experience. Send all the paper generals there to fight for 3 months before giving them the crabs. Anybody want to go first ? Kee Chiu ?
@653:
]]]The things you've cited which are "wrong" with Singapore and its politics are well known.
However that's the thing about culture: even if the culture is "corrupted" and there are several identifiable aspects of the culture which are "unsavoury", life simply goes on because the majority of people simply don't care, or have automatised their day-to-day behaviour such that it becomes a norm.
Although there's grumbling from the masses about the government an its policies, the nation is still peaceful and no one wants to "rock the boat". Even those folks protesting at HPL -- they get together, make a few speeches, and come Monday everyone goes back to what they're doing. There is no ACTION, no plan, no objectives set...everyone seems resigned to waiting for the next election -- believing that voting out the PAP is actually going to matter: it won't.
>> My question to you is, how are you, as a individual contributing to that vision of yours on a day to day basis?
As a die-hard, pure self-intereest libertarian my contribution is ZERO, and it will stay that way because the "pursuit of my own 'happiness' is the only game I will play with vim and vigour.
I'm quiet alright with the PAP ruling with their social engineering bullshit, and with the players exhibiting examples of supreme douchbagery, fucked-up logic and just pure insanity. Yep, I am ok with that.
I don't vote, (it is pointless) and when I do, I spoil my vote. Personally, I could care less who's running Singapore -- as long as I can rock, make enough money and have lots of sex with different hot chicks.
I treat Singapore like a HOTEL :-)
>> PS: I just watched the books of mornons last month and me mind was blown into SHREDS. >
Yeah, that would do it to you. Now consider my situation: I have a bunch of mormon cousins, yep entire families of the critters. One thing I will say about the mormons -- they believe in ridiculous stuff (like all religions), but in person, they're generally very nice people.
@Matila_Singapura
>> because the "pursuit of my own 'happiness' is the only game I will play with vim and vigour.
Perfectly fine with me.
But i feel that you should well acquainted with a pastor by the name Martin Niemoller - sound fella who spoke up against the german intellectuals prior to the rise of the third riech.
/*
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
*/
Talking about religion, book of mormons is one helluva play and you should take time out to see it - religious or not (discussion for another time).
@745:
>> But i feel that you should well acquainted with a pastor by the name Martin Niemoller
Yes I am. However modern Singapore is not -- not even close to -- 1930's/ 1940's Nazi Germany.
To try to draw comparisons is sheer fear mongering. Germany prior to Nazism was stone broke due to WW1 and the reparations it was FORCED to pay by the asshole League Of Nations, the buffoon Kaiser was weak, people were saddled by almost hourly inflation -- a loaf of bread costing 1 billion Marks in the morning could be 3 billion by the evening, people already poor were getting poorer...a right royal mess which enabled Adolf and his buddies to seize state power.
Nothing even remotely similar is happening in Singapore, no matter how many "patterns" your mind might manufacture (false signalling).
>> book of mormons is one helluva play
Yes it is. I'm a big fan of Matt Stone and Trey Parker's works.
>> religious or not (discussion for another time).
Anytime you like bro. I'm a hardcore "fuck-your-god-and-his-slut-mom" anti-theist. (like Hitchens and Dawkins)
@Matila_Singapura
40 kekz for your god comment.
I think I like this guy already.
Besides /b/ and /r/spacedicks, what other blogs/microblogs do you frequent?
Feels like I'm swimming against current when I always go on most sgp related sites
@532
>> what other blogs/microblogs do you frequent
Too many to list. I use feedly.com as my aggregator. For 4-chan I use an Android app called MIMI. I also enjoy internet porn. And why not?
>> when I always go on most sgp related sites
I find most Singapore sites BORING. My singaporenews is the only local blog I read -- and that's only becasue I like to write and use redbean's site as a sort of "notebook" for my thoughts which I can retrieve via Google search if I want material for an article or talk.
The rest of the Singapore blogs can all get fucked. There is nothing that interests me there. All the same bladdie bladdie bladdie blah -- the govt is evil, Lee Kuan Yew is a dick, die Lee Kuan Yew, die, I hate foreigners, I have no money for hookers and blow becoz my cpf is locked up, Jesus is Coming (so open your mouth!)...fuck it lah.
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