I
would not attempt to define what a 3rd World country is as the
definition would be as controversial, subjective and debatable. But I think
many would agree that there are some features that are common to 3rd
World countries that we can agree with. Let me throw up some of these features
here and see how many of them are already happening in out 1st World
city.
1. Exceptionally wide income
gap or high Gini coefficient number.
2. High inflation and
diminishing monetary value.
3. High numbers of poor and
uneducated people in the population(foreigners included).
4. Fancy for forms or vanity
projects.
5. Fancy for mega projects
that cost billions of dollars.
6. High crime rate with
murders and death happening almost daily.
7. Cheatings and scams quite
prevalent.
8. Rioting and burning of
vehicles in the streets.
9. Littering.
10. People eating and drinking on the streets.
11. Sense of insecurity.
This is increasing daily.
12. Govt leaders only
talking cock about grandeurs.
13. Self serving govt
leaders.
14. Control of the media.
15. Suppressing dissent.
16. High corruption, legal
or illegal.
17. Govt squandering
public money foolishly on parties after parties.
18. Top jobs taken over
the foreigners.
19. Govt trusts foreigners
more than the locals.
20. High unemployment or
graduates being jobless.
21. Govt leaders using
public money for useless state visits.
22. Abuse of govt
authority and govt offices and officers.
23. Cronyism and nepotism.
24. Some kinds of
dictatorship or authoritarian state.
25. Control of media and
freedom of expression.
26. A deep sense of fear
of authority.
I think there are many
more features but suffice to say that the main features above are adequate to
define a 3rd World country.
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Ministers being paid in thousands of dollars during the first 30 years of Singapore's independence managed to bring Singapore from the Third World to the First World.
Ministers being paid in millions of dollars during the next 20 years managed to bring Singapore from First World to the Third World.
Enough said.
The heavy defeat of the main party in the Punggol East by election, herald a new trend in the oppositions, which brought out many insights. They more cooperation and corroboration of oppositions. The much better oppositions parties candidate put forward. To counter the main party advantage of medias? With a heart for the commoners
And the last minutes reveal of the opposition candidates, to reduce the medias scrutiny and the main party countering it, as the main party need to deploy and standby more then 89 candidates.
The main parties need to standby fewer and they need to concentrate their strength not to spread themselves and their resources thin?
They started early doing door to door reaching out to all the new citizens, who might not aware the impact on the policies affecting them and their children future?
with the SDP last minute withdrawl to help WP to win, brought forward a new era in Singapore politics, the willingness of SDP to sacrifice temporary gains for the greater good of Singapore, the standard and maturity of Singapore politic, which used to be one sided?
With 2011 GE gone, afterward the reality begin to take heavy toll on the population, everything kept increasing and the cost of of living as more foreigners were imported in.
In 2011 things need to be reduce and massive incentives and profit sharing schemes to entice the electorate, and after that need to take it back double the amount given out, as everything given out can't be free?
With more and more people aware of the CPF locked up scheme for life, to them is a huge disadvantage. This CPF should returned to them as before, or maybe 70 percent of it excuding the medical saves?
These CPF is likely majority of the population main savings, as their pay were depressed by the heavy influx of foreigners, and in future more and more of them will lost their jobs to the cheaper and younger newer and newer citizens, to the AIM of from 5.3 millions to 6.9 millions?
With the Punggol East shock defeat for the main parties, as many felt it better for vote the opposition, for 2 parties to work for them, and the main party got to work harder to win them back?
If they can't take out their own money the CPF at 55, standby for any crisis, which they could likely lost their jobs to the younger and cheaper new citizens, they got to rely on their savings, as more people came in, everything became more and more expensives, so is difficult for them to save up with their depressed pay?
More and more felt that it is safer to have multi-parties systems like the Nordic or the Swiss, which more parties put up their best talents to complete against each other to work harder for them at a lower cost?
If the new citizens lost their jobs to the newer citizens they don't have much alternatives as their main savings their CPF is locked up, the got to borrow from the credit companies and loan shark to tide over the difficult per
As the complete for better policies and ideas of the multi parties systems, brought down cost, and less wastages, lest wastage so more benefits for the populations.
The previous outdated policies of cheaper and cheaper foreign workers is outdated, now need to learn from the New Zealand, Swiss and the Nordic, to raise the lower wages worker standard and not to bring in too many foreign workers to take away jobs and depress pay? Which is a double whamy for the average workers as now the can't draw out the CPF at 55? A double whammy, now the voters became more wise, a multi parties system provide insurance against any outdated or failed policies, as they can see the huge success of the Nordic and Swiss systems?
Many no longer rely on the main medias for news and they had many hand held devices to track the latest news and updates. And they can spread the news very fast unlike the past?
Rb:/ I think there are many more features but suffice to say that the main features above are adequate to define a 3rd World country. /
Rb, obviously your list BAEY comprehensive without including the following:
1) severely disconnected public servants from the ground ( think 250 cents nasi padang)
2) 60,000,000 cents peanuts ( 600k )
3) future potential state leader asked people "kee chiu" in an important convention. ( u think a 1st world leader like President Obama, Chancellor Merkel or PM Cameron would do that? Or for that matter, another leader like President Xi Jin Ping or PM Li Ke Qiang would do that? )
4) A head of state who looks more like a bill board advertisement selling fried chickens?
5) An ex-PM who expected own subjects to be good citizens and serve the nation but own children quit the country to bear grand children for other nations? ( any wonder why TFR plummet in a free fall under his watch but ministerial salaries, housing prices, COEs went through the roof? Can u see the correlation? )
6) Citizens stay in miserable 450 sq ft pigeon holes but public servants stay in huge sprawling mansions and bungalows.
Get very pessimistic liao to list more .......
Can't bear to go on any more .........
What did Georgie say .......... ?
Wither what ...... ?
Congratulations Singapore.
Score 26/26 full marks for this test!
Thank you so much, PAP!!
Yeah!
The CPF will be fully absorbed by housing and Medishield Life. Nothing will be left for retirement.
But then hor, which 3rd world country parliament the ruling party has 93% seats and at least 60% voted for it every election for more than 45 years?
And some more with a 90 year old parliamentarian?
And also the strongest opposition party not only not ready to be govt, but its leader also praise the ruling party for being competent?
No, tio bo?
So based on the above, Sinkieland is not a 3rd world country because 3rd world countries don't have the above.
Sinkieland is in a world of its own on earth! Hahahahahaha
It is Third World alright.
But, not as bad as vehicles
got burnt indiscriminately.
Chosen vehicles got burnt
and they belonged to the
Authority.
Wonder what had the Authority
done to deserve their wraths.
patriot
Third World because the Citizenry is 3rd World?
Some photos of half naked homeless foreign workers sleeping in nice and clean sheltered walkways have been circulating around. The authority should be compassionate to allow these nice and non violent people to sleep there and not to disturb them. They just need a nice place to sleep after a night of happy partying.
redbean
Please show some consideration for our 3rd Generation poolitical Leeders.
They don't have the brains or capabilities to lead and manage a 1st world country.
They can only manage a 3rd world country.
Therefore, PAP will have to remake Singapore into a 3rd world country.
Otherwise, they cannot justify why Singaporeans should vote for them.
Anon11.03am ///So based on the above, Sinkieland is not a 3rd world country because 3rd world countries don't have the above.
Sinkieland is in a world of its own on earth! Hahahahahaha///
Tiok! Anon 11.03am
Ha ha ha ha ha .........
Sinkieland is first among equals.
No! Our 1st PM scored Double First in Cambridge.
Sinkieland is logically Double First World.
So rb's scale may have run out of measurement to accurately assess sinkieland and therefor drawing the wrong conclusion.
Tiok bo?
Ha ha ha ha ha ..........
DOUBLE FIRST WORLD list of accolades:
1) > 90% technically "own" their homes though many are 99 years leasehold properties
2) GDP per capita about USD60,000 based on PPP
3) Life expectancy 80 and above
4) HDI almost 100%
5) Literacy also almost 100%
6) Water from tap drinkable
7) Air good enough to run a marathon
8) Illegal corruption among world's lowest
9) Illegal crime rate among world's lowest
10) Very discipline citizenry ( on the whole )
11) Very hardworking citizenry ( on the whole )
12) Very law abiding citizenry ( on the whole )
13) Very cooperative citizens ( on the whole. Garment say jump, citizens ask how high ...... )
14) Relatively efficient bureacracy
15) Relatively corruption free bureacracy ( only tarnish by predominatly by some black sheep in the law enforcement sector such as CPIB, CNB, Civil Defence, University Law faculty )
16) Safe streets ( for now )
17) Relatively safe food products
18) Efficient ports
19) Efficient airports
20) Safe environment to raise kids ( generally )
21) Relatively magnanimous citizenry ( 3rd world where got so good hosts ? )
22) Rational and restrained citizenry ( think little india riot )
23) Yearly Edusave Scholarships for top 10% students for Pri 1 to Sec students.
24) Almost USD 1 trillion foreign reserve vs 1st world countries like US, EZ countries with trillions in debts.
The list runs on ........
Ha ha ha.
Perhaps anon 11.03 am correctly concluded sinkieland is not 3rd world nor 1st world ......
Maybe double 1st world ......
FIRST PM, FIRST SM, FIRST MM score card in real world.
His unique achievements on Earth.
Double first in academic.
Double first in real world.
Double double first.
UNIQUELY SINGAPORE
How apt!
MAJULAH SINGAPURA!
Why I'm voting Opposition in GE 2016
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I'm tired of the PAP bullshit.
What is our reward after 50 years of sacrifice for the PAP political ideology?
The reward is just more sacrifices for me and my children.
Enough is enough!
No more blank cheques.
Gratitude does not mean servitude.
Regime Change in GE 2016.
Huat ah!
I dedicate the following song to all the young Singaporeans.
Don't repeat your parents' mistake by voting PAP.
It's My Life (Bon Jovi)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SKFwtgUJHs
"It's My Life"
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This ain't a song for the broken-hearted
No silent prayer for the faith-departed
I ain't gonna be just a face in the crowd
You're gonna hear my voice
When I shout it out loud
[Chorus:]
It's my life
It's now or never
I ain't gonna live forever
I just want to live while I'm alive
(It's my life)
My heart is like an open highway
Like Frankie said
I did it my way
I just wanna live while I'm alive
It's my life
This is for the ones who stood their ground
For Tommy and Gina who never backed down
Tomorrow's getting harder make no mistake
Luck ain't even lucky
Got to make your own breaks
[Chorus:]
It's my life
And it's now or never
I ain't gonna live forever
I just want to live while I'm alive
(It's my life)
My heart is like an open highway
Like Frankie said
I did it my way
I just want to live while I'm alive
'Cause it's my life
Better stand tall when they're calling you out
Don't bend, don't break, baby, don't back down
[Chorus:]
It's my life
And it's now or never
'Cause I ain't gonna live forever
I just want to live while I'm alive
(It's my life)
My heart is like an open highway
Like Frankie said
I did it my way
I just want to live while I'm alive
[Chorus:]
It's my life
And it's now or never
'Cause I ain't gonna live forever
I just want to live while I'm alive
(It's my life)
My heart is like an open highway
Like Frankie said
I did it my way
I just want to live while I'm alive
'Cause it's my life!
Is LKY the oldest living MP in the world?
If so, this should be entered into the Guinness Book of Records.
And Sinkies will be proud of it.
"Is LKY the oldest living MP in the world?"
ANon 12:40 pm
May not be the oldest but 93% chance the highest paid MP in the world. And for that matter, all Sinkie MPs.
And Sinkies should be proud of it.
The rewards of sinkies include higher cost of living, more expensive housing, medical services, unable to own cars, and be replaced by foreigners, be jobless or underemployed.
But some Sinkies are rewarded with millions every year for doing nothing except wayang wayang abit.
At least 4 ministers urged to population not to spend too much money on your children tertiary educations, because every year there will be 30K of new and newer citizens, to take over or depress the Singaporean graduates?
The ministers had read the trend, more and more older graduate likely to lost their jobs to the younger cheaper foreigners graduates?
By the time your children can't get a good paying jobs, it will be troublesome for the government?
Of course foreigners were cheaper to hire, they can get from the 3rd world countries much cheaper and willing to work longer hours, because their pay here are a few time more then their countries, so Singapore graduates would be at losing end in future, their advise is appropriate due to changing circumstances?
With higher inflation, with 30k of cheaper third world graduates became new and newer citizens every year, those new citizens graduate and older local graduates and their children, will have a hard time coping and their future are not very bright?
A 3rd world classification for Singapore is a grave injustice to other nations
A 4th world is best to classify Singapore, only one condition needed. ... majority of native born are inferior to foreign talents. Fuck papigs.
Knnccb... hsien loong, u a fucking bastard!
11.03am, have lar examples are in North Korea, last time in Egypt and Iraq and afghan
Do your research u will find more countries lar
Punggol East is the turning point for the people, as many of them have awaken to the truth?
New citizens now realised that they need to vote the oppositions, they can't continued to been made used, to pay so much indirect taxes to support the world highest salaries ministers?
They are sending a clear message across, things need to change, the 3 major issues, is the newer and newer immigrants, CPF locked up schemes for life and inflation, which will be game changer in 2016?
Many countries don't need to import so many people to grow their economy except Singapore? Example Estonia and others?
New citizens will likely send the message out they can't be continue to be made use of to vote the main party and pay the enomorous indirect taxes like Levies, COE, ERP GST and other indirect taxes etc?
The are sending the signal that the main party need to reduce or volunteering reduce their salaries, to that of the Nordic minister level around ten percent of the Singapore minister level, so that not so many to be burden, like needing newer and newer foreigners to support the indirect taxes?
More and more new citizens are realizing they are in trouble, with rising inflation too, and also their children? The are not taken by the baits of the main party in the future?
The are not going to work like slaves to pay for the high indirect taxes?
Dialogue from the movie Hobbit:
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Tauriel: When did we allow evil to become stronger than us?
Legolas: It is not our fight.
Tauriel: it is our fight.
Vote Opposition;
If you think it is our fight.
http://the-hobbit.tumblr.com/post/52763370154/when-did-we-allow-evil-to-become-stronger-than
We are not 1st, 2nd or 3rd world. Our world has been taken over by greed. This is a greedy world. Greed kills Jesus and greed will kill sinkies.
Singapore is just like a prostitute doing all it can to attract the rich, corrupted evil ones.
Smugglers, drug traffickers, money launderers, foreign despots, corrupted government officials all over the world put their money in Singapore.
They give this a good name - wealth management center!
Of course, like a prostitute, Singapore will treat you like a dirt if you're poor and powerless!
When did we allow evil to become stronger than us?
'You can't handle the truth'.
Colonel Nathan R. Jessep
In matured democracy,bitter rivals can co operate and did not to fix each others, like the strong rivalry between Obama and Hillary Clinton even they crash bitterly: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/clinton-obama-set-aside-rivalry-speech? After election Obama appointed Hillary Clinton as his deputy?
Many election campaign in the western democracy respected each other and shake hand after elections unlike Singapore? The western form of democracy respect the opposition contributions and not worry they take over them?
The Nordic multi parties systems is a model for every countries, with reasonable salaries their minister salaries is around $200K per year? Which they don't keep bring more people, which would took away their jobs and depress the new citizen and the local their pay?
Singapore got to moving toward these multi parties systems, as it can't concentrate to much power in one party, as an insurance against any excess in a single party system? More opposition in the parliaments wider views were heard and debated? To get ride of the underclass forming? Many of our graduate got difficulties completing with the cheaper 3rd world countries graduates?
Those have too much appointments should not set themselves up as MP? Some MP even for as many as 6 elections even without going through an elections? With so many walkover, people really don't know their credibility as the are not tested in the SMC or any election before?
The opposition parties can't afford not to co operate with each other against the domination of one party for the 50 years and their massive machinery? They are reducing their difference and looking out for better and better candidates of higher quality to join them?
The next elections, the opposition parties have high chance of success with the excess or one sided policies? And to balance out the main parties policies?
The oppositions has an important role to play in any societies, if the main party fail, they can take over?
People should allow like Tan Jee Say, Dr Ang, Low Thia Kiang, Sylvia Lim or Chen Show Mao to take over, if they feel they can run a better show at a lower much cost, so that not to overburden the population, with too much indirect taxes until many have little savings and unable to retired?
Because more and more foreigners came to complete with them for jobs or takeover or replaced their jobs and everything or to push up the prices of every things?
High unity among the oppositions is key to victory against the massive machinery of the main party and their 50 years rule, reducing the difference with each others, more co operation and corroboration with each others. So to balance the parliament? Singaporean need to foster the oppositions for counter checks, balances and its excess of one party system?
Singaporean can't afford to keep increase the foreigners intakes from much cheaper countries, to vote for them, it will take away more and more new citizens and locals jobs, with stagnant pay and later their children jobs, having spent lots of money, some selling their properties to educate their childrens? Increasing cost of living and inflation in everythings? Oversupply in labour?
Many social ills associated with job loss below inflation incomes, like gambling, divorces, mental problems, borrowing to fund out of jobs or low income due to inflation, rise of credit companies and many social associated with low income, due oversupply of labour, overpopulations etc?
Many countries like the Nordic or Estonia their countries had high standard of livng without using importing people strategy, Singapore advantage over them, is Singapore now have one of the busiest port and in one of the most busy location, Singapore should concentrate improving its products and services?
Not to keep importing people to lower it people standard?
The main reasons the need to bring so many people in is to vote for them, so the can continue to enjoy the pay of ten times of the Nordic ministers pay? All these highest pay need money to support, and the new citizens and local can't continue to support these pay, they need newer and newer citizens to come to Singapore support the systems and their pay?
They need to increase the percentage of new immigrant or new citizens to counter the continue lowering of support from the locals in the election, as their support from local continue to slide further, due to their policies?
If more opposition came in the parliament, like the highly successful countries of Nordic, Swiss multi parties systems, the less need of paying them the world most expensive salaries, keep importing people to maintain their pay and the system, lowering of indirect taxes and business costs such as GST, COE, ERP, Levies and other indirect taxes, which is heavy burden to business, new citizens and locals and their childlren?
They need to volunteer to reduce their salaries to that of the Nordic ministers salaries so that not to too heavy burden the business and its people the high cost of living and indirect taxes?
"Many countries like the Nordic or Estonia their countries had high standard of livng without using importing people"
- btw, they also use a lot of cheap labour from eastern europe who have free movement into their countries.
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