While Sinkies are all over trying to grasp the value and place for
tuition, heard in the news that India is worried that none of its
universities is among the top 200 universities in the world. And maybe
they are going to game the system by bringing in more foreign students
and lecturers to boost their rankings. I think this whole ranking thing
is a farce and a paper victory and did not reflect the reality and
quality of the products of the universities. In a way the good grades of
students only tell one side of the story of the student’s ability with
many things left untold.
The facts are contradictory and disappointing as far as university
rankings are concerned. The inputs are variables, the factors are
subjective and everything else are but a constrained effort to think
they matter. Take the case of Singapore universities versus Indian
universities. Oh, we are so proud of the top rankings of NUS and NTU
while India has none. Then look at the employment opportunities of
Indian graduates and our graduates and their employability in top
management positions in MNCs and the govt and govt linked companies. The
products of Indian universities put us to shame. Pandit used to be the
top man in Citibank Group. And there are many like him in America and
Europe. Can we find a Singapore graduate in such rarefied position?
None!
Indian graduates are in demand and highly regarded in America and Europe
and definitely in Singapore. Singapore even signed a free trade
agreement that includes opening the door to practically all Indian
graduates. As such they are gradually easing out the local graduates in
top management positions in our home ground. Indian graduates are highly
sought after here. Where do the graduates of our world class
universities stand?
I will advise India not to waste time, money and resources to game a
system that is hardly of value except on paper. Look at the reality here
if not in Europe and the USA. Indian graduates beat Singapore graduates
hands down. Still thinking of wasting money on some rubbish rankings?
Indian graduates are among the best in the world of banking and finance
and IT. So, why this urge to want to look good in some make belief
rankings that are worth only on papers and ended paying obscenely for
the presence of foreigners in the universities? A farce is a farce. A
good university or a good graduate is a good one regardless of whether
the university is rank at the top or at the bottom. Maybe if the ranking
is done by God it may mean something.
29 comments:
"Indian graduates are among the best in the world of banking and finance and IT."
RB
Not best but best available lah, in quantity especially, to Sinkieland.
There are best ones of course, but they are not available to Sinkieland, or in the quantities that PAP govt want.
In fact, PAP itself is also considered by 60% to be the best available party to be govt. Simply because no other party is ready to be govt.
After about half a century of PAP rule, the citizenry have the best education available in this part of the world.
Yet the products of education system are not desired by our employers and the Government have to import foreigners by the millions and call them foreign talents.
What went wrong?
Maybe NUS and NTU did not produce graduates in quantity lah, so need to get Indian graduates lah, tio bo?
Also not all NUS and NTU graduates are good what, so some, and only some, will of course lose out to Indian graduates lah, tio bo?
Younger, faster, cheaper, better (can click with boss, if boss also foreign talent).
That's what foreign talents got it right.
And what went wrong with Sinkies.
"What went wrong?"
@ September 23, 2013 8:55 am
60% Singaporeans voted for PAP lor!
NUS and NTU should consider having joint campus with Indian Universities here. Then Singaporeans need not have to travel to India for it.
How can a tiny fish tank produce big fish?
Use a little of your big thinking brain, can?
Think why NUS is the best is not because it produces good graduates, but it conforms to the rules of having 15 - 30 percent of the undergraduate be FOREIGNERS lah.....
Why is it deem to be best, when your student population consider of FOREIGNERS...
Qualcomm infested with Indian will go into shit. Most do not know what Qualcomm is. Today, your handphone is powered by Qualcomm. She has higher market cap than Intel. But Qualcomm has one problem. Their engineers are 60% Indian in rampant discrimination of others especially Chinese.
The Indian bring caste system into Qualcomm and lots of inefficiencies. No doubt Qualcomm can survive because they feed parasitically on patents and technology accumulations over the years by white man engineers.
But Chinese are getting back Qualcomm in the most surprising way. Now MediaTek likely to beat Qualcomm and become the largest handset chip vendor..
Mediatek is a Taiwanese company. Chinese reject caste system and racism. The more caste system and racism white man and Indian have the better. The Chinese will be victor.
Eventually, all these white man company will go bankrupt and Chinese will prosper.
Another good example is Huawei, today the biggest telecommunication vendor in the world. Chinese practice meritocracy, we win. And Indians infested Nokia Siemens, once world No1, or 2, is losing monies like crazy.
Caste system will bring us nowhere. But it is best white man practice it as much as possible to prepare for the eventual rise of China.
Today, white man are writing to newspaper against Indian caste system and racism in Qualcomm, which power our mobile phones.
Not only Qualcomm, white man in places like microsoft USA and many others big tech resent Indians very much. You will be aware if you are engineer. Many blogs against Indians.
Why Indians? Why no one blog against Chinese, who are extremely smart or no one blog against Middle East Muslim intellectual workers, who are Muslim.
We need to think further about the reasons.
By Veritas' logic, Singapore will prosper perpetually because Chinese make up more than 70% of the population. The Sin Cabinet similarly is dominated by Chinese Race. So relax, the Majority Chinese Race will ensure the prosperity of Sin and may even make it one of the most powerful country in the World.
Rejecting caste system and racism is an important step to prosper but there are exceptions.
Singapore already have caste system imposed by FT Indians, especially folks of Citibank. So we may go to shit soon. High chances more shit than India.
Why blog against Chinese when they(Chinese) are shunned and not employed there?
Got logic or commonsense??
There are Chinese in tech, but must be exceptionally good and exceptionally luck to pass the interview panels who often have 1-2 Indians.
I got a middle east friend who make it to Google. He is very angry that his Chinese colleauge who he esteemed is failed by Indian in the interview panels.
There are Chinese and white man and Muslim. Go survey these blogs and see their resentment against Indian.
Its like the world unite in comtempt against Indians IT workers.
Hi Veritas, you have very strong views against Indians. In Singapore, Indians are highly valued and regarded. We even signed the CECA to open our doors to all Indian graduates.
I think despite what you said, Indians are also highly regarded in the USA. An American of Indian origin just won the Ms America contest.
Singapore should worry about the university rankings. They may get swelled headed and think the universities are now world class before of the rankings.
Rest assure that more than 5000 years of civilization with religions embrace all over the World, i
India and hence Indians are no fluke, so please do not take India Indians for granted.
I am against caste system.
I surveyed US Intel Prize to see who is smarter.
The result is Chinese and Indians draw in the highest level at the finals. But Chinese IQ has more breath. At semi finals we are represented out of proportion.
Also Indians IT CEO has been telling everyone the prefer Indians and flood their companies with Indians. Some Indian CEO even say white man stupid. Eventually, their own company go bankrupt.
Vinod Kholsa open the world top UNIX shop. UNIX is today the most important OS in server. He told everyone " Indians are favoured over almost anybody els" SUN almost go baknkrupt and bought by Oracle.
Following SUN, the once omnipotent sign of UNIX, I bet Qualcomm is going bankrupt soon.
While Qualcomm is still practicing caste system, Chinese Mediatek is going hammer Qualcomm like nobody. Huawei was founded 1988. Because of Chinese real meritocracy, it quickly trump everyone especially Nokia Siemens which practice caste system.
RB, u are right lar. Local uni high ranking is mainly due to gaming the system. If you look at both foreign lecturers and students, u know they max the ranking requirement. But if you look at employer ranking they ranked very low lor. That is why employers also know the ranking not real one mah.
Knn waste so much money getting many half past 6 lecturers and deprive many local students a place just to game the ranking. Let me ask you we produced any Nobel prize winner or not? U tell me lar Tio Bo?
Also pay so many foreign lecturers so much and deprived local lecturers of jobs in academia. Clever or not?
We have so many people going for apple or samsung because the people love apple or samsung pussies and not because they are cheaper, better, faster. Acer, asus, htc, huawei are the cheaper, better, faster ones.
Similarly, we have so many indians holding top positions because the pm loves ahneh pussies and not because ahneh is better, cheaper or faster. To stop that naughty behavior, we will have to vote someone else to be pm loh.
In conclusion, this world is full of bullshits (aka marketing tricks) lah. Unfortunately, people like to buy bullshits.
One maybe the Best, but, when best is not needed, it is best not to be best, because best is useless.
patriot
Same logic with the quality of government in Sinkie land. Election after erection, the Pappies end up winners, for nearly 50 years. Do Sinkies consider PAP the best government ?
In Sin, builders are most willing to compromise the qualities of material and workmanship.
LIKEWISE, SINKIES ARE EVER WILLING TO COMPROMISE WITH THE QUALITY OF THE RULERS.
So, who shall be blamed or to blame.
patriot
Low quality people deserve low quality government.
Daft people deserve daft government.
A crocodile is a crocodile, a leopard is a leopard, a hyena is a hyena. Still the same vicious, evil, heartless predator whatever the disguise in appearance or policies. Trust such animals and get one inch closer and preys very soon may end up between their teeth. Too late liao. Better to stay around herbivores. At least they are not meat eaters. Trust omnivores no more! How can one stay foolish 1,000 times? Beats me!
* omnivores to be replaced with carnivores
At the rate it goes, our can't-tree or rather city island ( no more can't-tree ) might be in the drain very soon after two generations of mindless leech-dership. The days are numbered for many leeches. Lesser and lesser dumb victims for them to suck. Read 43%. 2 more years for them to suck blood. But beware, fat leeches are the slowest and the first to be caught and neutralised.
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