7/18/2013
South Korea begging the US to take control of its armed forces
Though the South Koreans have been bragging about how able they are to invade and fight the North Koreans, they are so afraid of losing the backing of their colonial master. This semi American colony is begging the Americans to continue to be their supreme military commander in case a war breaks out with the North. The agreement means that the Americans will have full control of the South Korean armed forces in war. The whole of South Korean military will be under the control of the Americans.
The Americans were supposed to surrender this right to control the South Korean armed forces in 2012 but this was delayed because of the sinking of the Choenan. The handover was then scheduled to be in December 2015 but the South Koreans willingly wanted to submit their armed forces to the control of a foreign power, the USA and is asking for a delay in the handover of power back to the South Koreans. It is unbelieveable that a sovereign state would willingly beg another country to assume command of its military. Where is the pride of the Korean people? Is this not a sign of a semi colony?
And now we know the reason why the Choenan was sunk in October 2010. The real reason, the South Koreans would be assuming control of their own military by December 2012. And there must be a strong reason to frighten the South Koreans to want to continue with the Americans as their military commander and colonial master. Who then has an interest to sink the Choenan to keep this status quo?
The North Koreans, the South Koreans or the Americans? Who sank the Choenan and the reason for its sinking is now clear as day light.
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The South Koreans are softies and will always depend on the Americans to be their colonial masters. At least the Japanese are trying to break free from the Americans to be their own masters.
Shame on the South Koreans.
Who is begging the meekook saram?There is a difference between working closely with them and begging them.
Both N and S will be united soon .
Contribute and give idea on how to manage our backyard well than to think lowly of South Korea.
All are softies without the Americans....What do you think.
The South Koreans are great fighters and do not need the Americans. They could invade North Korea and reunite their motherland without the Americans' help.
The Americans are there to chok chok so that they can continue to station their troops there to act as a pressure point against China and Russia.
A better way to conquer North Korea is to send in the Hyundai and Kia cars and the Samsung mobile phones.
The new president Park Geun Hye is secretly pro China. The last president Lee Myung Bak is pro USA.
Park cannot edge close to China yet. USA will take her down. In fact, S Korea is a de facto colony of USA.
The former president Roh Moo-hyun is pro detente with N Korea. In the end, he got prosecuted when he is out of office, which resulted to his personal suicide.
Park Geun Hye is a 100% culturally Chinese. She know Chinese language and is quite an expert. Her favorite writer is Feng You Lan (冯友兰), a Chinese.
Who heard before 冯友兰 (he is a giant scholar) in Singapore?
South Korean can fight?
At the end of Korean War, some Korean units emerged. The most famous are the 9th Infantry Division which got a nickname of White Horse Division 白馬師.
She has been able to resist the most elite 38th Army of PRC.
She participate in Vietnam War. All Vietcong flee like mad when they knew White Horse Division is in charge.
The reason is not only it can fight. It is an extremely wicked division. It rape and kill every civilian upon detection of Vietcong activity.
When I went Vietnam, all Vietnamese even the Southern Vietnamese veteran hates Korean army.
By the war, president Park Geun Hye's father President Park Chong Hee is the chief of staff of White Horse Division.
2012 GDP in TRILLIONS US$
United States 15.684,750
2 China 8.227,037
3 Japan 5.963,969
4 Germany3.400,579
5 France 2.608,699
6 UK 2.440,505
7 Brazil 2.395,968
8 Russia 2.021,960
9 Italy 2.014,079
10 India 1.824,832
11 Canada1.819,081
12 Australia 1.541,797
13 Spain 1.352,057
14 Mexico 1.177,116
15 South Korea 1.155,872
16 Indonesia 0.878,198
South Korea should for a 3-trillions GDP vis-a vis Japan -SKorea population.
Park Chong Hee was bumped off by kcia
aka korean central investigation agency
no prize for guessing who's the boss of kcia,
the name literally tells u its a local franchise of the *u know who *
http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Korea/HJ25Dg01.html
South Korea should have more brands in consumers good, in automobiles and other industrial products not just one or two big names.
Due to its smaller population it could target to match a GDP slightly below that of Germany at around 3 US trillions in next 20 years. Higher ends desirable products focus.
More Economic venture with the North like Kaesong to expand its industrial output base is good.
The North could be the Skorea industrial hinterland of low cost yet highly diligent technician and engineers well-trained by the South Korean companies with much larger Kaesong-style projects.
Park Chung Hee was assassinated by the CIA thru KCIA for wanting to reunify the two Koreas. Kim Dae Jung was ousted for wanting to do the same and ended his sunshine policy for reunification. And the two Korean people remained divided and the beneficiary is none other than the Americans. And the South Koreans remain as the colony of the Americann Empire.
The Koreans can understand the orientation of Park Guen Hye. She must have known who killed her father. Sad to say, many Koreans still do not know who is their de facto master and why they could not be reunited as one country.
The East Asia order cannot be change whether or not USA likes it or not. Korea, Japan and Vietnam will go back sinosphere sooner than we think.
Japan, Korea, Vietnam will form the inner most core of sinophere.
Next tier is Mongolia, Thailand, Laos and Burma.
Today China is biggest trading partner of S Korea. So USA is going to lost influence in Korea. The Korean elites is going to get sinicize sooner than we think.
Park Geun Hye is a Chinese language expert.
Next come Japan.
And finally Vietnam is going to use Chinese character.
Right Veritas, they had infantry division called The Korean Tigers.
Wah fearsome to the Vietcongs.
But now if half of her military comprises of the Korean boys bands members or alike , then North Korea can just march in with their rifles behind their backs.
Ha ha. Same like Singapore ah boys to men. Indonesians can also just walked in but now in the sixties hoh.
That time we got hokkien pengs- tough as nails
I am read many opinions by expert. Singapore nearly get sinicized with Malay and Indians learning Chinese like mother tongue.
If Japan started the war at 1940 instead of 1937, China would be prepared enough to defeat Japan militarily.
Then, China would flood SG with China MNC. All minorities will be scrambling learning Chinese.
The Anglicize Singapore is just a abnormality rather than normal east asia order.
Even when China got heavily wounded in WW2, Singapore still would be sinicized if it was allowed to follow natural course.
Lim Ching Siong nearly took power.
Then UK supported LKY and his cultural genocide. Chinese got wipe out. Most Chinese today is banana.
But the east asian order cannot be reverse or take down by clowns and idiots like LKY, it will be back.
China has won the war without firing a single bullet, by trading. The Americans are still fighting with bullets and winning battles but losing the whole war.
America has been conning the world that China is going to conquer the rest of the world by force which is a White Lie. The Americans are trying to conquer the world by force, the Asia pivot, the military alliances, the wars in Middle East and the tensions it is causing now to East Asia and South China Sea.
Asian countries must think and see through the haze created by the Americans. War is bad for China. China does not need a war to win friends and influence. And in the 21st century, conquering a country by force will no longer work unless the conqueror is prepared to keep on fighting a never ending war.
It is in China's interest to have world peace and with every country trading and getting prosperous peacefully. Why would China want to go to war to spoil the progress it is making?
It could be an Asian Century if the sinic countries of China, Japan, Korea and Vietnam could close ranks and live in peace and harmony, and build on mutual cooperation and economic activities.
This world is full of bullshits. Let those elites fight among themselves and just leave us normal people alone to run our daily normal lives. At the end of the day, it is all about the greed of some elites that caused so much miseries to mankind.
When the Koreans are United as One, a peaceful Asia will provide All Asians a life of peace and prosperity .
THE KOREANS HAVE TO WAKE UP THEIR SENSIBILITY.
CHINA, KOREA AND JAPAN ARE FACTORIES THAT PRODUCE QUALITY GOODS AT THE MOST REASONABLE PRICE FOR ALL THE PEOPLE IN THE WORLD.
If only these 3 powerhouses can get their acts together, it will bring the rest of Asia along to a new century of Asian renaissance.
I like freehold not leasehold property. For that reason, I hope america / europe will become superpower number one forever. Communistic rule is scary. One child policy is scary. No election, even if fake ones, is scary.
There are many madness in Kuan Yew-ism and western ideas. The Sinic, after receiving western ideas are more logical for well being of humanity.
Kuan Yew-ism in short is Jungle-ism, parasitism. Capitalism in short is robberism and gangsterism.
Socialism and economic Marxism is a good idea. But there is a serious flaw in western socialism. The western socialist support immorality like sex, drug, incest, bestiality, homosexuality, fornification...etc. They are sodom and Gomorah type.
Traditional Confucius-ism sucks. But the current development of Confucius-ism could be the savior of mankind.
The idea of Confucius-ism is goodness to society, friends and relative(仁义). Also Confucius-ism have strong aversion against immorality. (礼义廉耻)
Confucius-ism also advocate not to do things to others when you do not like it yourselves. (己所不欲，勿施于人)
And Confucius advocate taking care of old. PAP advocate getting rid of old....etc
I am not saying Confucius is good. It has a lot of flaw. Nevertheless, its time to examine Confucius-ism further.
I would say that the intellects of modern beans should be up to it to amalgamate the goodness of different philosophies, east and west, pick up the good and relevant and discard the bad and irrelevant, a kind of synthesis.
The failure of all the systems in history was to follow one form, lock, stock and barrel. Capitalism is as bad as Communism. Democracy is as bad as one man rule.
China is practising Communism and Capitalism at the same time, trying to cope with the good and rejecting the bad. It is doing not bad.
Flexibility, pragmatism and intelligent adaptation of different philosophies could be the way to go forward.
/// Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...
China has won the war without firing a single bullet, by trading. The Americans are still fighting with bullets and winning battles but losing the whole war. ///
The British were better - they won half the world without firing a single bullet. And they won China by firing some cannons and winning by trading - opium, that is.
We really have to take our hats off to the British. A small country with a small population could rule half the world and an empire where the sun never set.
They did it.
'China is practising Communism and Capitalism at the same time, trying to cope with the good and rejecting the bad. It is doing not bad.'
- what makes you said that? i think china is a bubble waiting to burst anytime. so many empty building and flats. people work the entire life for a 60 years temporary flat. young people all want to get out of china.
Economic integration for the koreans should get going. The north is getting more isolated economically.
>>>Any South Korean leader
>>> Pro China.
Tell that to any Korean and they'd either punch you or laugh too hard to do so.
Korea hadn't respected China ever since Japan raped them in the ass and Korean memories of Chinese intervention in their wars are bitter ones, regarding them as no better than the enemies they're supposed to help expel. The current President Park came to power just barely due to the support of the elderly, and those who voted for her have nothing but contempt for the North and China. Those who do like the Norks and China aren't the ones who voted for her because her old man jailed them before.
The UN resolution authorising the Korean War and the arrangement of US command in case of restarting of the Korean War will remain so long as China maintains the mutual defense treaty with the Norks. This ensures that Pyongyang doesn't get any stupid ideas that they can risk a limited conventional war like it was at the begining of the first Korean War.
In any case, a Korean Unification will be an utter disaster that will take an entire generation to clean up and fuel resentment between North and South for decades to come. How the hell is South Korea going to absorb 11 million plus people with 90% unable to function in a modern economy and whoese language is so different from modern Korean it's like a foreign language. There's a reason why those Koreans born without any memories of living relatives in the North have consistently voted in surveys to delay reunification. They saw how West Germany, an economy several times that of South Korea had troubles absorbing a nation that still spoke the same language and were able to function in the modern world.
Incidentally, China doesn't need America to do much to send her neighbour scurrying to the US protection. Their recent spat with India, the open beligrence with Japan over the Senkaku and their occupation of the reefs in the South China Sea had everyone in Asean rushing to embrace America.
Except for Cambodia and Laos of course. Cambodia is currently China's prison bitch while Laos is a non factor.
Tell that to any Korean and they'd either punch you or laugh too hard to do so.
Korea hadn't respected China ever since Japan raped them in the ass and Korean memories of Chinese intervention in their wars are bitter ones, regarding them as no better than the enemies they're supposed to help expel. The current President Park came to power just barely due to the support of the elderly, and those who voted for her have nothing but contempt for the North and China. Those who do like the Norks and China aren't the ones who voted for her because her old man jailed them before.
The UN resolution authorising the Korean War and the arrangement of US command in case of restarting of the Korean War will remain so long as China maintains the mutual defense treaty with the Norks. This ensures that Pyongyang doesn't get any stupid ideas that they can risk a limited conventional war like it was at the begining of the first Korean War.
In any case, a Korean Unification will be an utter disaster that will take an entire generation to clean up and fuel resentment between North and South for decades to come. How the hell is South Korea going to absorb 11 million plus people with 90% unable to function in a modern economy and whoese language is so different from modern Korean it's like a foreign language. There's a reason why those Koreans born without any memories of living relatives in the North have consistently voted in surveys to delay reunification. They saw how West Germany, an economy several times that of South Korea had troubles absorbing a nation that still spoke the same language and were able to function in the modern world.
Incidentally, China doesn't need America to do much to send her neighbour scurrying to the US protection. Their recent spat with India, the open beligrence with Japan over the Senkaku and their occupation of the reefs in the South China Sea had everyone in Asean rushing to embrace America.
Except for Cambodia and Laos of course. Cambodia is currently China's prison bitch while Laos is a non factor.
30 years ago, no one in SG and HK respect PRC. Today, you go visit those posh condos and guess who is the owner.
While its true that Korea harbor resentment against China due to Korean War, the tribe Korean hate most is not China, its Japan.
Unification of same tribe a disaster? I wonder how you reach the conclusion.
Germany become a respectable power only after Bismark's unification. Similarly the unification of India under British pave its rise to a respectable state. Who will heed a India fragmented into 1000 pieces before the arrival of British?
Veritas, this JayF may be a Korean but his thinking is like a white American. Illogical, disjointed, extremely biased and silly.
See his reason for the Koreans to hate China? Because Japan invaded Korea? And his thoughts of Koreans hating the Chinese for entering the Korean War? He is only referring to the South Koreans. The Chinese entry saved the North Koreans from being annihilated by the Americans like the Red Indians.
Without China there will be no North Korea today. And like the Americans he is against the reunification of the two Koreans. And he will point the fingers at China as the one preventing the unification.
JayF is a Korean?
The Name sounds like an American. If not at least a pseudo one lah.
I do not think China save North Korea. But rather, China has put N Korean under tyrannical Kim families unwittingly.
USA save S Korea and raise her to prosperity.
Worse, its Kim Il Sung who started the war.
The Koreans will remember this.
Nevertheless, the Koreans will come to sense that all these are due to historical background.
I have chat with many Vietnamese intellect. They told me they hate Ho Chi Minh and his China backers. Else vietnam will be prosperous.
However, today USA is increasingly parasitical to the rest of world and China, is returning back to its benign character.
China is a pivot of East Asia. When China goes down, whole East Asia suffer. When China rise, whole east asia rise.
China is the economic pivot of East Asia and also the world without having to say it.
The Americans want to be the military pivot to mess up and rule Asia. And there are many Asian suckers willing to go to war for it. And the Americans told the world that China is dangerous and the US is peaceful.
>>>Hongkie or a Sing
>>>>Respect the PRC
Uhh, no. Most Hongkies or Sings think of the rich PRC as a bunch of corrupt uncouth nouvea rich who are spending the money outside of the PRC because they'd go to jail if they spend the money inside China. Add in the fact that the Chinese govt has admitted that billions are lost every year due to their elite fleeing the country because the gig is up on their many scams and there's little to respect about them.
Admire for their audacity and ruthlessness in dealing with their own and their wealth sure, but respect? You're confusing the modern rich PRC criminal for the now extinct gentleman merchant like Tan Kah Khee.
To say that the Koreans don't really hate the Chinese because they hate the Japanese more is to both miss the point of Korean resentment and difference in the threat perception level the Koreans have regarding their two giant neighbours. For example, just because both Iran and Saudi Arabia both hate Israel doesn't mean they don't regard each other as equally loathsome and a mortal threat.
China is not only allied with their mortal enemy the Norks but also threatening to restore the traditional order of their subordination to China. The ROK realised they like not having to kowtow to the Chinese and frankly, modern Chinese culture holds little attraction to the Koreans. Compare the pull of Japanese pop culture. Despite their historical grudges, the ROK is the largest non Chinese based consumer of Japanese pop culture. During the 70s till the 90s when Japanese pop was banned, such contraband was sold openly and highly valued. Even now with K-pop sweeping the world, Japanese soft power holds a unique sway among the Koreans matched only by America. Most importantly, the ROK realises that with the American allaince in place, Japan is NO THREAT considering the weak Japanese response to Dokdo while China is very much a threat to their newfound freedom from thousands of years of Chinese domination. Much like Vietnam, the Koreans like not having to listen to the Chinese.
Comparing a potential Korean unification to the establishment of the German Empire is comparing a bottle rocket to a Tomahawk. They both fly into the air and are both technically rockets but that's about it. Prussia under Bismarck's guidance had some 4 decades and a people and system of government utterly familiar with each other. It also helped that the Germans of Hanover, Munich and Saxony were not having a different calander and people who would have no idea how to function in the modern German empire at the turn of the 20 century.
West Germany absorbing East Germany provides a far more sobering lesson to the ROK on any potential Korean unification. Leaving aside the fact they'd be absorbing some 10 million plus economic and political refugees, they'd have to deal with the world's 4 largest standing army that's now demobilised and have no marketable skills.
The ROK military has no use for them since their combat doctrine and training is too outdated and alien to the modern ROK military but putting some 1 million plus fighting fit adults on welfare would fuel great resentment among the ROK civi population who WILL see taxes skyrocket to feed the now disarmed army alone. Not to mention the sort of mayhem a disenfranchised million man army can do. Add the trauma of guiding some 11 million people to relearn their language and intergrate into the modern world and you begin to imagine the nightmare it will be.
As for India, well come back when 90% of the country isn't a complete shit hole.
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