2/22/2013
Occupy Singapore the FTA/CECA way
All free trade agreements have a lot of complex economic and trade issues, import export tariffs and quotas, taxation, goods, preferential duties etc etc to benefit both countries. But this free flow of PMETs is very deadly to a small country with a small population like Sin. It is so apparent that one or two million foreigners would create a big impact and havoc to this island in all aspects, from housing, goods and services, infrastructure, transportation and simply people on the road. Then there are jobs consideration, schooling, medical services, social services and social space. And in close proximity in a small space with so many people, tension is bound to rise and it is a matter of time when rioting in big scale is going to hit this rock.
We are now told that there are 200,000 Indian PMETs in the island, not counting the PRC PMETs, the Pinoys, and the others. The FTA would have opened doors for these foreign nationals to be here, to operate and work in the companies and factories/offices they set up. So we have big businesses and big number of people. Wonder if the 200,000 PMETs include their families, some three generations, being brought here. If that is the case, it could be nearly 1m.
Next the housing needs, other than the office and factory spaces for the commercial activities, for the families. 200,000 units or thereabout. They need a roof. They need all the supporting living facilities, schools and services. 200,000 plus families, that is bigger than one of our biggest township or housing estate.
This is the trade off for the economic activities and revenue brought in through FTAs. How many direct jobs did these businesses brought to Sin and is it worth the trade off? More jobs for foreigners or for locals?
Imagine if this keeps expanding, the Indians and PRC Chinese and Pinoys will go on to fill up several townships/housing estates. It is like occupy Sin peacefully with Sin openly its arms and legs happily, without knowing it.
What would all these lead to? How much of our island would we have to give up to these foreigners in such numbers, our land, facilities, jobs and what else?
We are being occupied, through these FTAs and CECAs. The Govt apparently is very comfortable with such a situation, but the Sinkies are not. In 2030 Sinkies will be 55% on paper but in reality much less. What about 2040, 2050….?
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Well I heard of two condos in the east which are predominately occupied by FTs so much so that the MCs are also controlled by FTs
Right on the ball,RB. I have previously noted this problem. Now you know why US and UK law firms are reported to be opening their offices here and demanding that their legally trained personnel be allowed to practise here. The government is treading carefully but it knows that it cannot do much to stop this. The same goes for the medical and engineering professions. So they come in under the guise of joint endeavours much trumpeted as a win-win situation. A thorough review of the effects of the FTAs should be undertaken. A netizen recently posted a report about Switzerland`s negotiations with India for a FTA and one sticking point was the influx of Indian workers. The Swiss baulked because of their recent bad experience with the influx of workers from the European Union countries.
Sinkies should not be too occupied with the Ownership of Sin anymore. They should rightly treat lt as a hotel which It is now.
As one netizen noted, the First Generation of immigrants were here to make money in businesses and work. Their hearts were invariably with their homelands(motherlands). They remitted much of what they made home. That may i say is fair and the right thing to do. To make money is for the comfort and happiness of the family. Who make money for the country?
Despite the World is globalizing, emmigrants from homogenous nations tend to remain faithful and loyal to their motherlands, lands of their roots, ecthnicities, forefathers and origins. And non should be accused of not being loyal to the countries they have migrated to, unless there is proof of betrayal and treason of their places they migrated to and settled down.
Singapore is uniquely a little transit point for the international communities.
It has been so for over 5 Centuries or at least whence it got noted in history. It really has no character and condition to be a nation itself. It is too small and situated in a geographical location that makes it more suitable to be a large city of its' neighbour Malaysia. It ultimately will be, just a matter of time.
Sinkies got to be prescient not just about their past, they got to be more aware of their destiny. At this point in time, Sinkies should take all and whatever advantages to plan for their future and NOT BE MIRED ABOUT THE OWNERSHIP OF SINGAPORE.
Singapore by itself can NEVER BE A NATION. Anyone can quote me anytime and may I suggest that Singaporeans rally for NATIONAL SERVICE TO BE ABOLISHED.
patriot
RB
My children made plans to migrate Canada. The youngest serving NS intends to migrate to Australia after his degree. I cant take the cold. In Perth when visiting, the heater was forever between me n hubby when in the house. The Ang Mos are nice but I prefer my cheenas n kelings, my countrymen, who understands n respect each other quirkiness.
Malaysia needs citizens. God willing when PR takes over the corupted UMNO will be kicked out. Lets face it, the born n bred Chinese and Indian are so alienated frm their ancestral country that it made sense to whole heartedly sink our roots and embrace Malaya as what our grandparents did.
What do you think
Hi Anon 10:12,
I fully agree with you that we have, after a few generations, made this place home. We are used to and comfortable with the environment and the people. When as a kid, I have never been troubled by ethnicities. My Primary School, Radin Mas, was next to the kampong and there were many Malays and Indians in my class. We never see each other as different. And we grew up from such an environment.
This is our home and I also feel quite comfortable up North other than the fear of crime. If West Malaysia can bring down the crime rate, some of the crooks only target Sinkies, and we can move freer, live there, why not?
The locally born and bred Sinkies are quite different from their forefathers. We can tell just by the look, though the Europeans would think we look the same. We have evolved and blended with our land, our home.
Actually I feel more at home in Thailand than Singapore today. Thai culture is 90% close to Chinese culture. And in Thailand, there are 20% of Siamized Chinese, that preserves 100% of Chinese culture even though they cannot speak the language.
Today, I do not know what exactly is our identity. More sickening is almost everyday you see PAP MSM and internet brigade non stop accusing Singaporeans as the most stupid and lazy people in the whole universe. I do not know a government that hates its people so much.
PAP give jobs to FT even though our graduates are more qualified.
Our scholarships are given to junk FT that score way below our students.
HDB let FT jump queue and even forbid single Singaporeans from getting an apartment.
PAP force us into army to protect FT.
PAP forcibly acquire our land at shit price and sell it to foreign speculator.
PAP forbids Singaporeans from opening a bank while foreign boutique band and toxic bank can get a license to set up shop easily.
Our taxi drivers are being abuse daily by FT Indians, comfort support these shit rascal. Only the Gas company red cab protects its drivers.
PAP sold our power plant, Tiger beer to foreigners. I heard from an insider in Tiger beer is the Dutch are coming in to kick out all the top Singaporean management. Many suspect that Ho Ching wanted to book gain to shore up her Temasek's fucking balance sheet.
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Patriotic Singaporeans are being call names like racist. I am prepare to be invited by ISA. I just feel angry. I wanted to harden Singaporeans. But again I thank RB for urging me not to go for violent. But I think stand up for our rights against some gangsters who do not know where to stop is worth the effort. Instead of being bullied, a punch by our taxi drivers into the cum face of FT Indians bully would send chills down their spine.
We just need a man to do it. And tomorrow, every FT Indians will behave themselves when taking Taxi.
@veritas,
You're right on with "a punch in the face".I did that to the HR pinoys when they try to occupy a room all for themselves during lunch by putting up a sign "for management staff only".They took it down and all Sinkies can enjoy the 1hr lunch nap.sad that some sinkies have forgotton that we are "地头蛇".
so now lky is parroting the china threat?
recently in a south china sea forum, tony tan [?] tell china not to blame u.s. for the escalation of tension, *blame urself* he said.
there was an unidentified angmoh sitting beside with a smirk on his face, obviously enjoying every min of it.
its now *chink on chink* babe.
if im not mistaken, it was singapore which proposed the unclo for south china sea way back in the 80. n it was tony tan who submitted the motion.
[question] sg has no dog in the fight, why'd it want to antagonise china, an important trading partner ?
who drafted the unclo, why was a motion proposed by miniscule sg breezed thru the un assembly without a fuss ?
who control the un ?
人在江湖
身不由己
sg is being taken over
the prc intake is just a red herring to make it not so obvious
besides angmohs,indians n ph, i also hear lots of vn diablect spoken.
murikans , indians, ph, vn ?
hmmmm.........
RB
I worried the crime there too, but what do you expect when the wealth is not evenly distributed. My wishful thinking ....our clean civil servants (not MIW) or system will help to realised that....
Few mths ago, had a lump in my throat when I saw a mom with a toddler exiting w/o paying 2 cans of food. With our increasing income gap we might turn out like what is Malaysia now.
Like the Malays, all Sinkies must stop that yearning for the faraway motherland. Only then your identity is not confused. Be firm in the name of intergration.
Malaysia is our hinterland. How could it not be when history and even the population makeup is so similar.
Pawns of big power.
Malaya crime rate is inflated by pap. They want to deter people from going there. I went there so many times, nothing bad happened to me yet. Just like any big country, do not go out at night.
Malaya is better than thai cos the language is easier to pick up. I hope one day sinky will rejoin malaya so i can uproot and live there. best still, use my cpf to buy a house there cos i am not allow to buy hdb.
Malays are not the natives there. The indigenious people are. Malays are originally indonesians that settled there cos the dutch bought them there.
It is all because LKY screwed up big time so sinky is kicked out by malaya and sinkies have to live in 99LH pigeon holes flats and make do with public transport. If LKY did not screw up, sinkies will now all have a freehold landed houses and drive a continental car cos we are all so hardworking and driven. LKY is a curse for sinkies.
'I heard from an insider in Tiger beer is the Dutch are coming in to kick out all the top Singaporean management.' - From my experience, it is better to be under dutch than any ahnehs, ahtiongs or pinoys. It is a blessing it is sold to a dutch not thai company.
It is obvious that the MIW is only paying lip service to the Total Defense of Singapore. Making us males waste 2 years of our life for nothing!
From my experience, it is better to be under dutch than any ahnehs, ahtiongs or pinoys. It is a blessing it is sold to a dutch not thai company.
I agree the first part, but I beg to differ that Thai is bad.
I would rather Tiger Beer in the hands of SE Asians. LKY masturbated us so much that Singaporeans nowadays do not know that once upon a time, the Chinese elites in SE Asia are very closely knitted.
LKY's grandfather, Lee Hoon Leong work as a skipper for opium king, Oei Tiong Ham. And who actually knew that Oei's grandson Oei Ing Tjien married Mavis Khoo, daughter of our top richest Khoo Teck Puat.
And UOB Wee family hails from Sarawak, Kuching, and he still got lots of relative and contacts there.
The Haw Par villa, Aw family are drug dealers from Myanmmar.
Who know that the Thai tycoon who wanted to buy Tiger beer is a Chinese 苏旭明, Charoen Sirivadhanabhakdi. I believe the Thai Chnese Tycoon would keep more of the Singaporean management than the Dutch.
As far as I know many of the SE Asia tycoon send their sons and daughters to high schools in Singapore. (Though they usually did their degree in the west)
I see all these SE Asia tycoon as one of my kind, even much more closer than PRC.
The problem why Singaporeans feel so far apart from the rest of SE Asia is because of LKY's policy, also now the border control is more strict. Our real identity was conceal from us. Before, SE Asia Chinese move around freely like no border.
Lee Kuan Yew's father Lee Chin Koon was born in Semarang, after grandfather Lee Hoon Leong cheated on his wife Mak Hup Sin. He fuck Ko Liem Nio from Semarang, and Lee Chin Koon was born.
Very few people know this. Sometimes I feel like I am from a different planet.
So LKY is a bastard?
If sinky comes under malaya and cpf can buy a house in malaysia, i will be the first to uproot there. papies have made this place unliveable for the working class.
'I agree the first part, but I beg to differ that Thai is bad.' - thai is also under a type of ugly elite system. they tortured women into prostitution and they chopped off arms and legs of men to make them beg. my first trip there was a total shock of how uncivilised that country was - not very different from ahnehs. sometimes you wonder why buddist countries are like that.
I think pockets of western society like Switzerland, Norway, Denmark, Sweden, Iceland, Finland, has reached the pinnacle of civilization today. I would like to live in the society. But as yellow people, certainly you get some discrimination.
'But they can be extremely wicked to other race.' - i disagree. the europeans allow kids of immigrants to study free in school, get a job that they will also do but some choose to sit around and collect social monies. you feel at home in thai cos you are from rich sinky. if you are a poor thai, you will not feel so well.
An islamic society like in Turkey can be surprisingly pleasant and relax. I think Turkey has one of the best isalamic model that others should try to learn from.
'But as yellow people, certainly you get some discrimination.' - you can try Netherlands. So long as you are hardworking, pay your taxes, not sit around and collect monies, the dutch gals will even marry you.
Anyway, everywhere also get discriminated. It is worst if your own kind discriminate you and favour those immigrants.
the europeans allow kids of immigrants to study free in school, get a job that they will also do but some choose to sit around and collect social monies. you feel at home in thai cos you are from rich sinky. if you are a poor thai, you will not feel so well.
I agree with you. However you need to think that Europe now is very different from Europe before 1945.
European has traditions of persecution of minorities even worse that what you see in Islam today. The spanish Inquisition wipe out every single Muslim and Jews in the former Cordova Caliphate.
The Germanic Teuton knights genocide all the slav in the Prussian corridor.
German wipe out all the Jews in continental Europe.
The French force converts or kick out every single protestant, the so call Huguenots.
Also many yellow people forgotton what the Dutch, spanish and Russian has done to us.
The Spanish conducted genocide of all Chinese in Manila. The Dutch conducted genocide of all Chinese in Jakarta. The Russian conquest of Siberia is bloody. They even cannibalize the yellow people. Often, all the man are killed and entire tribe of woman are make sex slave.
Until European has proven themselves longer, I would stick to their pass record that they are racist and potentially dangerous people.
An islamic society like in Turkey can be surprisingly pleasant and relax. I think Turkey has one of the best isalamic model that others should try to learn from.
You need to look deeper into Turkish society. The turks conducted the worst genocide in all Islamic civilization, far worse than Talibans.
In 1914, she started the Armenian genocide, which killed more than 1 million Christians.
Istanbul is just a false impression. I like Istanbul and been there at least 5-6 occasions. You go south east Anatolia today, the Kurds are being oppress. Until recently they are ban from speaking Kurdish.
And most Islamic countries have capital punishment for apostasy.
It was such intolerant that make Islam society backward.
I do not like gay. But that do not mean that I got to lynch them. If God exist, let God do the job himself.
Islamist unfortunately like to do God's job on the earth, and congratulate themselves for their murder.
And very often, dissidents are the person who have creative non main stream ideas that can brought a society forward.
Look at Alex Au, you know what I mean. In Saudi, Alex Au will be shot, if he dare to "come out".
The intolerant Islamic society has shoot itself, and they cannot understand why after being so pious, they are so backward, as if they do not have God's favor.
The Umayyad Caliphate, early Abbasid Caliphate and Cordoba Caliphate the most advance scientifically in the whole world. Today, if Islamist went back to these society, they would be shock that how liberal these society is, compared to how bigot Islam is now.
How not to lynch gays. Everybody can see. Give them an inch they demand a foot. Just look at them now. Wish they just diam diam and intergrate like everybody.
Hi bro, 15 years ago, brought Malacca condo and apartment on the cheap.
No restriction on minimum pricing.
Good for us retirees with enough CPF and other savings to stay there.
Also made a pile downgrading to a small hdb flat. Maybe just come back to Sin as a guest and backed to Malaysia again.
They granted us a 30 day stay.
Parked enough money there can apply for their PRs
Have children prefer Penang as more vibrant and career opportunities.
Unmarried children with no other commitments and retirees like me and my spouse feel more comfortable with our fellow cina, melayu and Malaysian Indians.
Any mohs countries out with us. They are mostly hypocrites and looked down on us asians.
If by 2015/16 still dominated by the papies, then time to move on.
Mr RB, you must be my senior during Matthew Chin's era where Radin Mas is king of all interschool soccer
Matthew Chin and his footballers, primary school kids from the kampongs, but very good with the ball on their feet. Enjoyed watching them played at the school field across the road.
Think Matthew was a couple of years my senior.
Right bro, all these isolated cases of crimes blown out of proportion by the media.
Been staying in Penang, Mslacca and working in the Klang areas with Kelantan and Trengganu for years.
Everyday, women folks children went on their lives ad normal.l
Where got the fear climate??
Penang and Malacca go for night shopping.
Anytime safer than SIN been bashed by the FTs.
For believers of any faith, Sin is the best place for them as they can believe in all they want. Sin is the Place and the Way.
Seriously, believers take every advantages to advance and exploit others. As Veritas has said and Alex knows well and wil never dare raise any agenda about his nature in any Islamic country. But here in Sin, the Pink Movement is brazen.
Looking at the many bombings in Pakistan, India and the Middle East, Islam does not seem to unite the Muslims. On the contrary, they are having the most infightings and history has shown that it was so since the Birth of the Religion. Will it stop?
There is no Shangrila or Utopia on Earth so long there is beings that get hungry of food and desire. The better places to live in are lands that are rule by benign leadership. And betterer if it is a land of plenty and free from natural disaster.
Singapore was a wonderful place to live in before the 80s. After 2 to 3 Decades of Local Rule, it has lamentably becomes too vice. The Tiny Dot is badlysicken by greed, avarice and lust.
Anon 8:50am
Why look so far. Pakistan, India, Middle East, we donno the culture tio bo? Religion and culture are 2 different things.
Look outside yr window, Muslim got fight or not. Its human nature lah. Men everytime want to be upperhand, even the half men, they also like dat. Women also but lucky thing their hormones not like men. So most will stay one corner to rant n cry. They can be cunning and loveble also.
We all the same lah. Lucky thing got religion or not chaos. The religious ones always give in. When they cannot tahan, watch out world!!! Of course must hv God permission OK.
Ah forgot to add, RB sure happy I say this :
Must see who is there also. America the Great Satan.
OK I click for RB morning kopi now.
Spore despite being FTA centre, yet one can find cheaper medicine in nearby overseas. One wonder if there is other benefits than lower business cost.
Foreigners suppose to be here to complement us, not dorminating.
I believe most of us are not anti foreigners, but govt seem like not regulating at all. Increase number of foreigners have already indirectly lead to increase job discrimination face by Sporeans.
'You need to look deeper into Turkish society'- if you look deeper almost all other great nations or cultures committed genocides on others. the past is babaric. we have been civilised. maybe thru invention of nuclear weapons. we will all die together if nuclear weapons are being used.
if you look deeper almost all other great nations or cultures committed genocides on others. the past is babaric. we have been civilised. maybe thru invention of nuclear weapons. we will all die together if nuclear weapons are being used.
Not everybody does it to the extend like Nazi, or Turks. What more noxious is, these atrocities are done after the Enlightenment age.
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