The
exceptionally good results of our students, and kudos to the schools and the
teachers, are not a once off phenomenon. The trend has been consistent for the
last 4 decades. The funny thing is that we have lost one whole generation of
industry leaders. According to the foreign recruiting agents, not Singaporean
recruiting agents, we don’t have talents and the only talents they could find
are in the 3rd World villages. And if you want them to do any
placement, they will go scouring the little villages where talents are
plentiful, especially in banking and finance and also IT, to give you the best.
They just can’t find the talents they need from the local cohorts that were
famed for their straight As. I dunno what happened to these bright students
when they grow up? Becoming part time employees or doing temp jobs?
And the loss
of talents is not confined to just IT, banking and finance. It is across the
board. Even top postman job must go to foreigners, top gardeners job, top
animal keepers jobs, curators of junks, oops I mean antiques, etc etc must also go to foreigners. And
foreign talents are starting to fill the politicial positions as well. That is
how good our education system has become. And not a single Singaporean dares to
dispute this fact, that we don’t have local talents for top jobs. Maybe in 30
years time. They have just planted the shoots and waiting for the harvest in 30
years time. Yes, in 30 years time we will have local talents for top jobs. Don’t
worry.
For those
who just completed their PSLE, in 30 years time they will be about 40 years old,
just about right. They will be just in time to be the top talents Singapore is
waiting for.
Oh, what
about the schools that cannot attract students and facing a bleak future of no
students? Not to worry. I have several solutions. One simple one is to go to 3rd
World countries and offer them scholarships to pick up the village best to be
our future talents. There is only one problem, or maybe not a problem, only a
paradox. These village talents will shine if they continue to stay in their
village school system and when they graduated, they will be headhunted to be
our foreign talents. But if they are to study here, in our world best education
system, would they score straight As like our local students but ended up with
no talent and unemployable like our local students?
The village
talents must think very hard on which is the better system that will bring out
their best. From experience and empirical data, it is better that they stayed
in the village school system that will turn them into top grade foreign talents
for this city state. And they can say,
cheap and good, a cheap education but with excellent results.
What do you
think?
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Do you know that every school is a GOOD school!
Indeed! Indeed! Indeed!
Every school is a GGOD school!
Merry Xmas.
Cheers.
Is it true?
Every school is a good school?
Every PAP Minister is a good Minister?
Every Lee is a good Prime Minister?
Let's hope our Singapore Olympics team is well insured
- are we putting them in harm's way?
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None of that bodes well for the summer Olympic games in Rio.
As we’ve detailed in a series of posts dating back to July, Olympians will be forced to deal with some rather unpleasant circumstances including a lack of air conditioning and television in Olympic village and feces-ridden water.
And that assumes the games happen at all after longtime Olympic power provider Aggreko pulled out of a tender to supply generators.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-12-23/brazilians-cancel-vacation-plans-50-metric-tons-noxious-mud-turns-ocean-brown
It is time to fuck MOE and their fucking teachers more. Over the years, MOE has become a den of crackpot, with highest occurrence of IMH patients. I was a teacher in MOE and to my surprise, the uncle and auntie, who seem so fuck up, so stupid, so helpful, so senile, so whatever it is--simply FUCKING evil.
Whenever you go to school, you will see some avuncular HOD, VP and Princpal always smile smile smile. In reality, 100% of them are maggots and their birth is due to their mother being raped by Satan.
And they are driving big big cars, drawing 16 months salary each year.
Why 16 months? THis is because PAP know that civil service sucks big time, and they are throwing monies at civil service, else civil service can only attract PSLE drop out.
Civil servant got 13 months, 1.5 month performance bonus and 1.5 month civil service bonus.
The civil service parasite need further discussion while I will now focus on MOE.
Talking about the "maggots", how abt the biggest 苍蝇 of them all that "spawn" and "supervise" the "maggots"?
Where is he(ng) now?
Is HE(NG) tasked to any important CON-MITTEE or before that any ( NATIONAL ) CON-versation?
If MOM does not tie its employment policies to MOE, all the good grades would be in vain, wasted time and money to end up no talent, unemployable.
Bcos what if ( inherently ) there are flaws in both MOE and MOM ( systems )?
Rb // The PSLE result was so good that top secondary schools have to raise their cut off points for admission. //
When comments are made without ( having access to ) the exact data, it "distorts reality"?
Just 3 years ago, the number of ( PSLE ) students were about 45,000.
10 years ago in 2005, the number of ( PSLE ) students were about 50,000
Now, can YEW re-read the cut off points trend with the ( PSLE ) student population trend?
The cut off points 3 years ago are of the 1 %-tile of say 5 classes of express stream?
We need to implement a system to bankrupt schools and put MOE teachers in unemployment, make them foreclose the condos and make them miserable and become a loser in society. Basically there are too many fuckers in MOE drawing scandalous monies, creating evil.
Right now, MOE only close down schools and transfer the fuckers elsewhere. We need the schools to be bankrupt and teachers get thrown out of jobs.
The MOE schools need only mofos and has no room for meritocracy. Anything screw up and staff go into IMH, MOE will send them new 3 years BONDED teachers from NIE. The HOD bully these new teachers until the new teachers get crazy.
If the newbies are wicked enough, they will be allow to stay or they will be ask to leave using the 5% bell curve appraisal.
The schools dont care about students or results because the students can bail themselves out with tuition. The school leadership only care about their salary and how they are able to bully new teachers, as well as keep their jobs.
We need to fire these fuckers. No better than bankrupting schools and get rid of them. When other school leadership see that they can get out of jobs by playing politics and dragging the whole school down, the old fucking cabal will be subjected to meritocracy, and young teachers will be fairly treated.
Now the cut off points are of the 1 %-tile of the say 4 express classes?
What does this mean?
It means if each school maintain say the ( original 5 ) classes as in 2012 PSLE results/ secondary posting ( done due to about 12.5% lesser PSLE students between 2015 vs 2012 ), what would be the 1-%tile cut off points?
Schools like Siling and Mcpherson is NOT shorting of students as per mentioned by ST. MOE can always post students to them and they are at HDB heartland. They are short of "EXPRESS" students. Siling has been running on ALL NORMAL stream for more than 10 years. Mcpherson is among the biggest ganster den school.
These school are typically useless and bail out by MOE, because MOE will forcibly post student there even no PSLE students choose them.
They are really piece of shit school and their managers are leaches and having wretch moral values. Is all other school better or worse? Basically EVERY single MOE schools are the same, like FUCK.
Is is because this is occupational hazzard that teachers must have a lot of politics. ABSOLUTELY NOT. All colleagues in international schools found the job satisfaction FAR higher and they enjoy there.
Does this not imply the cut-off points ( of the 1-%tile in each school ) in 2015 are about equivalent to the 20-%tile in 2012 )?
Say 4 classes of ( newly posted ) students in 2015 vs 5 classes of ( newly posted ) students in 2102?
In 10 years time ( 2025 ), the number of ( PSLE ) is likely to shrink to about 33,000 vs 39,800 ( in 2015 )?
So the current say 4 classes of express stream would likely be reduce to 3 classes by then?
Hypothetically, the cut off points in say 2025 of the 1-%tile ( of the 3 classes of say express students ) is technically equivalent to the 40-%tile in 2012 )?
Is it meaningful ANYMORE to say 2025 cut off points are so much higher than 2012?
To compare apple to apple, 2015 cut off should be compared to 2012 20%tile students results?
The cut off point for the number of PAP MPs in parliament should not be more than 51%.
In other words, how many classes on average were there in express stream in 2012?
How many are there in 2015?
If on average, schools HIVED OFF 1 class from 5 classes to 4, would not the cut off ( "naturally" ) be higher?
Bcos of the ( "failed" ) policies, the (eco) system is "warped"?
Who was in charge ( in MOE ) in the past few years ( 2011 to 2015 )?
What has he done ( in a single ministry ) to MITIGATE ( and make full use of ) the declining trend ( in PSLE students population )?
If he can't take advantage ( and make full use of ) SWOT in one ministry, what makes YEW think he(ng) can chart the city of sins economic future?
Btw, "SWOT" stands for "Strengths, Weaknesses, Opportunities, Threats" for the benefits of those are conversant with some ( management ) acronyms.
Between 2011 to 2015 when HE(NG) is in charge, given the trend ( and his access to all the data (and demography ) presumably ), could he NOT have reduced CLASS SIZE ( say from 40 pupils to 32 or 33 ) instead of reducing NUMBER OF CLASSES ( but maintaining at an ineffective class size of 40 students to 1 teacher )?
No?
Your numbers don't make sense unless you know the intakes of the top schools. If the intakes are bigger or the same, it will throw your argument off course.
YEW be the judge?
"SWOT" is just a small part to the entire equation?
There are a lot more to it?
If cannot do well in one ministry but can do well to chart the future of the ENTIRE ECONOMY ( with so many imponderables and far, far more complex permutations, combinations plus global, regional, trans-multinational players etc to contend with and not just some local ( and incompetent ) "maggots")?
Uncle across the board on average?
How would YEW tally and account for about 6,000 PSLE lesser students between 2015 vs 2012?
If YEWR version is correct, then would the ( relevant ) authority release exact ( official )figures between say 2000 to 2015 to tally the figure?
Uncle, btw, do YEW know the intakes in JCs on average ( across the board ) are shrinking?
No?
Can YEW call up each JC and ask?
The (failed) stop at 2 policy is coming home to roost with all kinds of ramifications in the "economic, social etc system"?
The point is what are they doing about it?
Given the number of new born since 2012 is between about 32,000 to 34,000 each year which is another about 5,000 to 7,000 lesser than the 2003 babies ( which are the 2015 PSLE students ), are they going to do the same things as in the past 10 years?
Uncle, don't YEW know the intake in many secondary schools are reduced by about 1 class compared say 2012 vs 2015?
The trend has already cascaded to the JCs in recent years?
The whole point is why don't they make full use of the reduced numbers to reduce the class size?
Talk about SWOT in the entire economy but can't even do it in ONE SINGLE ministry, empirically speaking?
Frankly, all these kpkb is a waste of time?
Anyway if going by ( the late ) old man's longevity, many oldies ( in MSN ) will be around in 20 years time to witness the ( economic, social etc ) outcome ( of current ( "bochap" ) policies?
Time to join Virgo 49 in gotong ray?
Can't YEW "detect something not very right" in policies responses ( to the changing situation )?
In 2005, the number of PSLE students was about 50,000? In 2015, about 39,800?
With a reduction of about more than 10,000 students over a mere 10 years but class size ( student-teacher ratio per subject class ) in most primary and secondary schools are still at 40 to 1?
Donald Low with another 2 writers contributed an article about another 2 new areas that this sinking city can embark on .......
But one of the "pre-requisites" is innovative thinking and the ability ( and space ) to ask ( and raise ) questions.....?
Do YEW think the city of sins has eveb the pre-requisite ( of space to ask questions ) much less the pre-requisite of innovative thinking ( among its students and people)?
There are many things this "Veritas" wrote that are "controversial" etc ......
But his comment that:
Quote
"Over the years, MOE has become a den of crackpot, with highest occurrence of IMH patients."
Unquote
is probably worth closer scrutiny?
His comment that:
Quote
"And they are driving big big cars, drawing 16 months salary each year."
Unquote
is not without empirical truth?
Bro, GohTongJaya no primary, secondary, ITE or JC.
Only School of Casino.
Kong kong aiya in.a daze headache.leh.
Thought now got 1 to 2 millions new talented citizens, why birth rates still so low.
Maybe got to subsidises vigara, cilas or black beetles.
Scared lah even babies got TB and die in hospitals going there to get cured.
Better go Mahokta hosipital.
Also.can use medisave.
Don't forget to count the number of foreign students here, with or with no scholarships but in govt schools.
Which ONLY ( civil service sector ) ministry ( education officers? ) got a pay raise before GE 2015?
And before that about 1.5 to 2 years earlier, which ministry other than home affairs ( after the LIR ) got about 10% pay raise?
If the (formal) school system has a "(teaching) problem", then ( in ECONOMICS, ) there is a serious problem in the delivery of (this) merit good ( education ) in an inherently capitalist system where such will be under consumed given the real and/ or perceived high costs?
What bout the cut-off point for PAP Ministers?
Has that been lowered or raised over the last 10 years?
On this point, Veritas commented on ( raised ) another very salient point :
Quote
"The schools dont care about students or results because the students can bail themselves out with tuition."
Unquote
This point "BIG, BIG" problems and ramifications in the "social, economic etc ECO-SYSTEM"?
No?
It means the policy of (gahmen) intervention for subsidised BASIC EDUCATION ( inherently ) failed ( at the very 1st, 2nd and 3rd hurdle in pri, sec and jc level respectively )?
What has HE(NG) done in his ministry between 2011 to 2015 to "intercept and nip this problem"?
YEW still think HE(NG) "has what it takes" to "re-engineer"/ "fortify"/ "re-chart" the ("faltering") economy of (the) sin(king) city?
Parents ( and children ) of arguably 4-room flats ( on the average ) profile would most likely have a hard time/ extreme difficulty forking out several hundreds and thousands of dollars each month for their kids monthly tuition?
What distortions would such create in the "social, educational, economic ECO-SYSTEM"?
YEW go figure out?
What about those at the very bottom?
The bottom 30%?
Who have problems making ends meet each month?
Where to find a few hundred or a thousand plus dollars each month for tuition?
What if they have more than one kid schooling?
And those borderline sandwich class neither here nor there?
Can they consistently fork out a few hundred dollars per subject per kid for their children's tuition each month?
For those ( education ) ministers who said no need tuition, the system is doing alright, are they prepared to make a statutory declaration ( SD ) that they did not send their kids for ( or their kids no need any ) tuition in any subject at any level from primary one to JC?
Now,
1) For a society's basic education for its population, where does the responsibility lie?
2) What happen to the about $13 billion or 20% annual budget allocated to the education ministry?
3) What are the economics, social, sustainability implications if the ( formal ) education system failed to deliver for at least 50% or more of each cohort?
Ic.
Nm.
Will check out Goh(Choke)TongLauya nonetheless. ....
Thks.
Merry Xmas .....
Another place of horrible student admission is NUS/NTU engineering. Today, Electrical Engineering (my ala mata), among the most prestigious faculties and among the toughest discipline in other countries, is the 2nd most fuck up cut off points in NUS/NTU, even behind Arts Fac. NUS/NTU engineering should close down.
How such stupid students is going to take the rigor of the course? PAP has a good idea, just cut the syllabus, aka "teach less learn more".
The result is I found most of my juniors really "FUCK UP" and stupid. Their dire situation is compound by the fact that there is no additional head count in Singapore, to have some sort of apprenticeship. In the past, companies can just hire fresh but our business cost is so high that today, the headcount are lean.
THe future of our graudates are bleak.
THe future of our graudates are bleak.
December 24, 2015 1:28 pm
But didn't 70% say that it is okay?
Didn't they say as long as the future of PAP is bright, that's all Singaporeans really care about?
Actually bleak is good or bad, I dont know. The reason is the university take in too much graduates and therefore, graduates nowaday deserve to be underemployed or unemployed. Alternatively, we can cut down the enrollment and many graduates will be meaningfully employed.
However, the way PAP run engineering schools is going to affect good quality students negatively, as syllabus is cut. The only way out is probably to set up another elite engineering school, apart from NUS/NTU, whereby employer can recognize the value of these students.
The 70% probably voted "correctly" in another perspective. .....
Look it this way .....
Whether in economics, education, public transport ( MRT ), ...... etc, the 70% have ( effectively and essentially ) told the gahmen, YEW are given an overwhelming mandate ( and there is no excuse should YEW fail )?
@ December 24, 2015 2:20 pm
I agree with you.
PAP asked for a strong mandate to solve all our problems.
PAP got the strong mandate (70%) that they asked for in GE 2015.
So let's see what other new excuses they will give for failing.
The list of failures since GE 2015 seem to include:
----------------------------------------------------
- SGH Hepatitis outbreak
- NUH TB outbreak
- KKH conjunctivitis outbreak
- continued MRT train breakdowns
... and the year 2015 is still not over yet
Aiya simple, Any government agency/statutory board screw up is called Administrative Oversight.
Others CBT.
Simple as That.
Ha ha ha
Thks for your endorsement. .....
At the end of the day, all problems will be solved ..... the sincity way ....? Just throw ( gazillion ) $$$ at the problems lah ....?
At the end of the day, all problems will be solved ..... the sincity way ....? Just throw ( gazillion ) $$$ at the problems lah ....?
December 24, 2015 3:13 pm
Has the incompetence of our PAP government reached such depths;
That even if they threw billions upon billions of dollars at the problem
(eg, MRT breakdowns)
- the problems will continue?
have we reached this level of incompetence yet?;
- when even money can no longer solve the problems?
"Over the years, MOE has become a den of crackpot, with highest occurrence of IMH patients."
Veritas 9:36 am
I also heard of that long time ago. Seems nothing much has changed for the better.
Anyway, to be fair, current ( perceived ) MOE problems should not be blamed on the 2 new acting ( parachuted ) greenhorns, who only took over about 100 days ago, tiok bor?
To confirm, just gather some feedback from GPs?
But doctors are under oath, cannot divulge?
But ground feedback all these years point to many instances of teachers having "tremendous mental stress on the verge of " ....?
Can lah?
Ask Ong Tua Kang propose subsidise tuition for the lower income school kids and families lah .....
Then "education field" make ( slightly ) more level again and thus lesser social stratification down the road ....?
The teacher mental stress are not due to work related per se. It is created by the Principal, VP and HOD whose mother got fuck by Satan, and thats how they are born.
Right now I am holding some management or lead position on and off. The mental stress of subordinate is 90% due to managers. The work wont kill you. The managers are those who want to kill you.
The more tough the work is, it will build more commaradie among co-workers, if the managers are good man.
MOE job is not tough at all. The management pit A against B, created meeting, issue threats and insult, pushing blames, create tons of useless garbbage job to breakdown teachers, promote mother fuckers to help them torture good guys, promote morons..etc. My colleagues who ended up in International Schools say that it is way way way better and much more job satisfactions..etc
FTs good, Singaporean graduates bad. That is what the market thinks. Well Singaporeans, live with it. That is the way things are in Singapore.
3.41 pm // The management pit A against B, created meeting, issue threats and insult, pushing blames, create tons of useless garbbage job to breakdown teachers, //
This is the not the first time such things are heard?
Had been all these years but mostly from teachers?
And to share one (real) "incident", a parent of an undergrad in the teaching discipline said his son already going to get out ( of MOE ) after his 3-year "bond" with MOE upon his graduation, even in his FIRST YEAR in NTU/ NIE ..... ?
Even in the eyes of greenhorn trainees, the school system ( teaching profession ) already sucks big time?
How often YEW hear children relating how some of their teachers give them the idea that they "hate" themselves, "hate" the profession, their lives "sucked" .....?
And "plenty" of "errors" in school notes?
And some notes are "really substandard"?
Even in the eyes of greenhorn trainees, the school system ( teaching profession ) already sucks big time?
December 24, 2015 5:10 pm
was the biggest blow job ... cock sucking in record numbers ... did that happen when some one died this year?
And students have to live with it?
Even in the eyes of greenhorn trainees, the school system ( teaching profession ) already sucks big time?
December 24, 2015 5:10 pm
was the biggest blow job ... cock sucking in record numbers ... did that happen when some one died this year?
Students with financially well off parents are bailed out by supplementary tuition?
How about those bottom 50% whose parents are unable to fork out a few hundred extra $$$ per month per subject per child to bail their children out due to "substandard notes and teaching"?
Does this contribute to the widening gap?
No?
Everything is well and good and rosy?
Just (blindly) tell the children to (blindly) follow whatever "dished out" by the schools and "morale deflated" teachers and all will be well?
Are YEW referring to March 2015?
But one 16-yo refused to "sxxk oblxng dxcks" and .....
..... sthg happened?
Uniquely Singapore ... where 70% of the population are cock-suckers.
I cannot understand why people are upset. This is pure:
1. Social engineering
2. Confucius-style meritocracy
These 2 fundamental concepts are what make Singapore #1. Short of direct genetic manipulation, this is a working version of top-down, centrally-planned, state-authorized EUGENICS.
Anyway, Merry Fucking Christmas, Happy Birthday Baby Geebus. Enjoy your celebration. I am going to catch up on my reading, especially the humorous stuff 😂
=> only 30% have 球 to show the 中间 finger?
True?
That's why YEW never hear there are any 4th generation in their midst?
The "working version of top-down, centrally-planned, state-authorized EUGENICS" in ACTION?
Rb // The funny thing is that we have lost one whole generation of industry leaders.//
Previous MOE JLB: So?
Rb // And not a single Singaporean dares to dispute this fact, //
So?
Christmas tomorrow.
I wonder how many PAPig babies will be born tomorrow?
Will the PAPig mummy's cheebye become more loose after child birth?
1721 ( tak boleh tahan ) days 5 ( torturing ) hrs and 35 ( agonising ) mins to new hope, new beginning, new future, "new democratic era" .......
5 more (unmerry) Xmas to "liberation" ......?
K
Tmr the farmers go to the sty to check .....
Then will know .....
Aiya ......
What will be will be .....
If it's NOT SUSTAINABLE, it's just that eventually.
Ha ha ha
That's the assumption in the market and THE ( BIG ) MYTH .....
Is it not many FTs ( foreign trash ) are also struggling financially in this city of sins .......
In terms of drive, hunger for the job and stamina to stay the course, how long or how many years can each batch of FTs ( foreign trash ) lasts?
Is it not akin to some kind of "ponzi scheme" but only in terms of human resource instead of capital?
1.28 // THe future of our graudates are bleak.//
Has it not always been the case "YEW DIE YEWR BIZ"?
"What's wrong collecting more ( gazillion ) $$$ ( from the poor, the downtrodden, the destitute, the old, the disabled, the low income )"?
"What's wrong signing CECA and let unlimited Indian labour supply ( unfairly ) flooding the job market and depressing sinkies wages"?
@Chua Chin Leng aka redbeanDecember 24, 2015 11:27 am
Your numbers don't make sense unless you know the intakes of the top schools. If the intakes are bigger or the same, it will throw your argument off course.
Very well said?
So?
That's why nobody ask such questions and get some answers in parleemad?
Many jobs now cardboard in city of sins?
Ubiquitous cardboards policemen?
How about cardboards MPs?
Can?
Gooooooood idea?
Boleh jalan?
What do YEW think?
Got cardboards policemen, can have cardboards teachers also?
How about cardboards principals?
Cardboards HOD?
Cardboards DM?
Cardboards PE teachers?
How about cardboards prostitute and mei mei for mati and kongcumkia?
Great Singapore Mystery
----------------------------
Another Major Commodity Index Drops To 2009 Lows
- but our Singapore prices are at record highs.
- PAP Ministers ... can you explain please?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-12-24/another-major-commodity-index-drops-2009-lows
Ha ha ha
Maybe cardboards papigs can explain?
VeritasDecember 24, 2015 10:49 am
//We need to implement a system to bankrupt schools and put MOE teachers in unemployment, make them foreclose the condos and make them miserable and become a loser in society. Basically there are too many fuckers in MOE drawing scandalous monies, creating evil.//
Cannot be done said?
Typo
Should be
Cannot be better said?
How many students have ( innocently ) suffered ( under the fart up system )?
How many students even end up committing suicide ( over the years )?
Nobolee accountable?
Beside Veritas, how many think the ( education ) system ( and teaching profession ) sucks BIG TIME?
Pls kee chiu?
At most in 20 years time, the rot cannot be hidden anymore?
Probably earlier?
Through tree trunks still look ok from outside?
Typo
Should be
The tree trunks
look ok outside?
But inside. ....
...... termites infested .....
..... to the core?
A rotted tree ....
...... waiting to collapse?
Anytime?
Time to evacuate?
To Matland?
Goh Tong Raya?
And join Virgo49?
To build a sinkie network there?
And the old days kampung spirit?
What do YEW call "kampung spirit" in malay?
Anybolee?
Look out for each other?
Watch over each other back?
Rb // The exceptionally good results of our students, and kudos to the schools and the teachers, are not a once off phenomenon. The trend has been consistent for the last 4 decades. The funny thing is that we have lost one whole generation of industry leaders. //
In the end, it is a matter of latent potential.
( The late ) Old man in his hard truths already said over one generation, the genetic won't change so rapid such that sinkieland bell curve move to the right and the proportion of smart people has tripled or quadrupled.
He has ( access to and worked with ) the real statistics spanning over more than 50 years from 1959 to 2011 when he published his last magnum opus The Hard Truths.
So?
YEW need to reconcile what old uncle wrote:
Quote
" The exceptionally good results of our students, and kudos to the schools and the teachers, are not a once off phenomenon."
Unquote
With what ( the late ) old man said .....
Who has more authority on this subject of genetics and more access to data?
Put aside old man, did RB track any student or a group of ( high performing ) students over different batches from secondary one to JC 2 and tabulate the statistical findings, say over 10 to 20 years?
The hard truth is epitomised in an old Chinese adage?
" 小时了了, 大未必佳 "?
So if YEW have tracked a group of ( high performing PSLE ) students over time, what have YEW got ( say after 10 to 20 years )?
Before going to that, how about some quite relatively ordinary students who later ended up in high post in the public sector?
According to one school of thoughts, in particular one propounded by a 16-yo in March 2015, he is of the view that if YEW care "to sxxk weird shape dxxk" such as those in the "oblxng" shape, it is just that ....?
Now back to possible reasons why old uncle is scratching his head:
Quote
" The trend has been consistent for the last 4 decades."
Unquote
The thing is uncle may be a "noob" in the area of statistics?
There is such things called time series data?
So "mystery" solved?
Btw, further count down to "liberation" .....
For many people ( and probably the 30% ), it is another 1720 ( tak boleh tahan ) days 18 ( torturing ) hrs and 37 ( agonising ) mins to new hope, new beginning, new future, "new democratic era" ....?
..... and 4 more (unmerry) Xmas to "liberation" ( for many in the 30% ) ......?
Now to revisit a view point "threw up" the day before about comparison of cut off points in different years .....
To simplify the perspective, say in 2012 in an average neighbourhood school, the cut off point is that of 5 express classes.
But for some ( unknown reason ) the cut off points are raised by reducing the number of express classes from 5 to 4 in 2015.
To put it in absolute numbers in a hypothetical situation ( for illustration purpose )
In 2012, hypothetically there could be an intake of 200 students ( assuming an average class size of 40 x 5 ) at a cut off point of say "n".
In 2015, hypothetically the intake could be of 160 students ( again assuming an average of 4 classes x 40 students ) but this round, the cut off points are raised to " n + m " , m being the difference in cut off points between 2015 and 2012 .....
So it ended many students are caught by surprise. .... by the higher cut off?
Some may brush this as pure speculation but let's face the fact, in the face of hard facts ( dwindling student numbers ), cutting down on the number of classes in each school has to be carried out ( over time say every 3 to 5 or 7 years depending on the demographic distribution and numbers of new citizens, PRs and foreign students intake? ) in most if not all schools save the bottom few ....?
Another alternative possible reason is if YEW restrict comparison to class size instead of number of classes between successive years than over a period, the above phenomenon can happen too.
If the number of students to be allocated ( to each average school based on previous years of 40 to 1 ratio ) falls to between 3 to 4 classes ( of number of students ), then instead of 40 per class, they might reduce class size to say about 35 each?
So instead of getting hypothetically 160 students for their express stream, each school is allocated 140 students and cut off points based on ( the new reduced intake of ) 140 students instead of ( the larger intake of ) 160 students the previous years, hypothetically?
One way or another, more bottom schools would be "closed" each passing year if ( number of ) students intake are maintained in other ( better ) schools or less bottom school "closed" with reduced intake in other ( better ) school, thus cut off points ( statistically ) would drift up?
In the end, they have to come up with some ways ( different or same in different years ) to "massage" the students distribution or spread across the entire spectrum of "surviving" schools?
Of course the "disappearance" of some primary and secondary schools over time and going further back even previous pre-u centres have "implications" for the lower strata students?
But is it not the "modus operandi" has always been"
" YEW DIE YEWR biz"?
So down the years, it could be possible ah kow put in his resume xyz primary school and abc secondary school but both schools "non-existent" liao ......
And ah kow job competitors are some new FTs ......
Will ah kow be at ( a huge disadvantage ) in the eyes of a potential employer?
Would the current policy planners ( probably from the top elite schools ) care for what would happen to students like ah kow job prospects down the road 20 to 30 years time when they do the planning NOW?
What do YEW think given past experience and brush off with the ( elitist ) gahmen ( what's wrong collecting more $$$ )?
Now let's go back to the earlier "conundrum " rb brought up about high performing PSLE students not translating to "high performers" in the industry 30 years later ....?
YEW see, remember earlier what ( the late ) old man said about ( possible or impossibility of ) genetic change over one generation?
And the point about statistical time series data?
Btw, time check again ( for many in the 30% ) :
it is another 1720 ( tak boleh tahan ) days 17 ( torturing ) hrs and 42 ( agonising ) mins to new hope, new beginning, new future, "new democratic era" ....?
At PSLE level, it is possible for latent potential to almost max at 80% and get t score of say 260+ during PSLE exam?
( The late ) Old man wrote in his book that the top tier of a few % has remained relatively stable over the last 50 years ......
Just came back from Changing Village ( famous ) nasi lemask breakfast. .......
Now back to time series data .....
What does it mean?
Uncle do YEW know the difference between the data YEW are looking at now vs time series data?
This involves a data characterization process called DGP.
Not GDP ok?
Dun mix up .....
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