9/19/2020

Exposing Indian lies, deceit and fake news with Indian maps and news

The past weeks the Indians had a field day gloating about how they captured Chinese positions in Ladakh while the PLA were caught sleeping, caught by surprise, unaware of what was happening, Chinese satellites not seeing anything etc etc. The Indians were glorifying the great defeat of the PLA that they accused of being aggressive and trying to invade India but repelled by India's pre emptive strikes across the LAC. It was victory after victory, with Indian soldiers occupying strategic positions to prevent a Chinese invasion. It was a reenactment of the early days prior to the 1962 Sino Indian border war when the Indians were victorious with their surprised incursions into China. China today and then were caught off guard by the Indian aggression with the latter accusing China of aggression just to invade China. It does not need much thinking to see who would be in a better position in an unannounced attack, the aggressor that made the first move, ie India. China was not doing anything and thus would be taking the blows from the Indians. The attackers would always have the advantage of surprise and well prepared.

Let's see how dirty the Indians were in the first few rounds of incursions into Chinese territory with the element of surprise. The map below shows two LACs, one on the left, proposed by Zhou Enlai in 1959 and another further to the right appearing in Indian maps today. In the 1962 war, China pushed back and held on to the 1959 LAC till today with both sides agreeing to pull back 20km from this LAC. A LAC is where actual control is, not imaginary line one wish to have like the one on the right.


This is from Wikipedia, 'The Line of Actual Control (LAC) is a loose demarcation line that separates Indian-controlled territory from Chinese-controlled territory in the Sino-Indian border dispute. The term was first used by Zhou Enlai in a 1959 letter to Jawaharlal Nehru. It subsequently referred to the line formed after the 1962 Sino-Indian War, and is part of the Sino-Indian border dispute....The term "LAC" gained legal recognition in Sino-Indian agreements signed in 1993 and 1996. The 1996 agreement states, "No activities of either side shall overstep the line of actual control." However clause number 6 of the 1993 Agreement on the Maintenance of Peace and Tranquility along the Line of Actual Control in the India-China Border Areas mentions, "The two sides agree that references to the line of actual control in this Agreement do not prejudice their respective positions on the boundary question".'

In this second map, the Chinese and Indian positions are clearly marked in red and blue respectively. The Chinese positions are 20km behind the LAC as agreed but the Indians are on the LAC, not 20km behind. The Indians have been making such aggressive moves, disrespecting earlier agreements and take it for granted, and ignoring the Chinese protest. This is what Indians are good at, making unacceptable aggressive moves but blaming China for it. China is in control of the region right of the LAC and India left of the LAC.
 


And here is a satellite pic showing details of Chinese soldiers and buildings in the observation posts Every one of these posts is manned by at least a company of PLA soldiers, fortified with fences, surveillance radars and minefields around the peripherals.

With these maps and pictures, let's exposed the recent Indian lies and myths about their victorious advance and capture of Chinese positions. To attack and capture one such observation post, the Indians would need at least 3 or 4 companies to mount the attack. And if successful, there would not only be prisoners of wars but also casualties on both sides.  Even if the Chinese were caught sleeping and did not put up a fight, the Indians would have taken them as prisoners of war. It would be something that the Indians would trumpet to the world to prove how good their soldiers were. Capturing such fortified positions is no easy task and there would be a lot of fireworks.

But no such news. There was no news of prisoners of wars, no wounded or dead soldiers from both sides, no pictures to show the world the captured Chinese positions.

The only news of casualties coming out from India was the Tibetan Special Forces soldier, Nyima Tenzin, died from an exploding mine. There was also news of another Indian or Tibetan soldier that died from an IED explosion. These two deaths could be from the Indian sneak attacks on 29 and 30 Aug, trying to capture Chinese positions like Black Top but failed. Whatever positions they claimed to have captured were actually hilltops on the LAC that were not manned by PLA soldiers. The Indian soldiers moved up from the base of the LAC to the hill tops and claimed to have captured Chinese positions that were 20km away.

What the Indians were crowing about were imaginary victories that they trumpeted but with nothing to show, no pictures of the sites or wounded or dead soldiers. A military operation of such a nature would definitely have casualties on both sides. And China would have launched an immediate counter attack when their positions were attacked and captured. It was like the proverbial saying, all quiet on the western front, except for the Indians beating their drums of an imaginary war.

While talking about Indian myths, let me revisit the brawl at Galwan Valley a couple of months earlier. The Indians were furious and mad that 20 of their soldiers were killed in that fist fight and none from the Chinese side. So embarrassing. After making many attempts to find out Chinese casualties and with the Chinese not saying anything, the Indians have come up with another imaginary version that there were more casualties on the Chinese side, Indians won again. So clever.

Think again. Two sides fighting with hundreds of soldiers involved. How come no Indian soldier could tell from what they saw at the scene of Chinese casualties? How come all the soldiers that were thrown or forced into the river and some died were all Indians? How come the Indian soldiers fought so bravely and so well but only Indian soldiers were in the river, no PLA soldiers in the river?

These facts only show that it was a one sided affair with the Indians being chased and thrown into the river. And they were running away so fast that they did not even have the time to look back to see if there were casualties on the Chinese side. The Indian soldiers were fleeing or being pushed into the river by the Chinese soldiers and unable to drag one or two Chinese soldiers along. That was how well the Indian soldiers fought, more like what happened in 1962. And they were hoping to hear news of more casualties on the Chinese side. After spreading the lie that China had more casualties, the Chinese foreign ministry has came out to confirm that Chinese casualties were much less than India. This must have pissed off the Indians more.

What do you think?

PS. The only thing to say about the Indians is that they violated the agreement with China to pull back 20km from the LAC. Also in a way they 'captured' China's unmanned hilltops on the LAC but trying to give the impression that they fought the PLA and won. Sneaky, sneaky as usual.They have moved onto the LAC instead of being 20km behind and pointing the finger at China for aggressive moves while China maintained its position 20km from the LAC. This is the logic of Indians. Who is the aggressor and breaking all the agreements and conducting aggressive movement of troops?

21 comments:

  1. Why is China keeping quiet? Why never refer the matter to the UN?

    Why Chinese forces never counter-attack to force Indian troops back to the correct LOC, 20 km away?

    Waiting for Christmas?

    If China doesn't react, then India can say anything. They already occupied the the land.

    China must do something. Cannot don't do or say anything.

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  2. Good morning Mr RB and all

    When China refered the unfair Trade Practises of their sanctions and traffics of the UAssA on them to the WTO, the White Snakes and Dotard Trump can simply ignored and said that he is not a Fan of this Organisation.

    What's more, the U.N. it's just also a lame duck under the balls of the UAssA.

    Now China is showing India what She can do by flying their Fighter Jets into the air space of Taiwan.

    Their Military Commander in strong words wearing against the UAssA provocations and the Taiwanese Banana President and their citizens shitted in their pants.

    Tsai in pampers everyday from urine and shits leakage.

    China knew that the Indians are just Peacocks nibbling at their heels and won't dare to nipple at their balls.

    Whereas the Taiwan issues are more pressing with strong warnings to the UAssA that enough is enough.

    Must show some force like the North Koreans to wake them up and not think that they are Sick Cats or Paper Tigers.

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  3. China should fire a volley of missiles into the positions "captured" by the Indian troops. Use precision homing missiles to send a message to double-headed snake Modi.

    Taiwan is internal matters. Internal matters can wait. Already waited 65 years.

    India is Aggression from another country. It is a international matter. It affects China's integrity and sovereignty. This is more important than the Taiwan issue.

    Moreover, China is part of UN Security Council. Irrespective of whether the UN is corrupted by the US or not, China must register an official complaint in order to put it on record.

    Keeping quiet and at the same time taking no direct action on the matter is tantamount to giving up China's right of defending herself. Moreover, it encourages India to embolden itself and talk big to the whole world.

    I think Xi Jinping is facing some internal problems. That's why he is so slow to respond. He has not been like that before.


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    1. Pending elections.

      Now Modi appealing to Xi to play along. Detracting their COVID woes.

      Modi knew their kind easily stirred up with their brainless nationalism.

      Trying to stalk with time for any rescue efforts.Hopefully a vaccine.

      Whereas the Taiwanese are playing with fires. Daily they are clamouring for independence and have the Americunts strring up the shits.

      So, China now flew 18 fighter jets and see how fast the Taiwanese response.

      Then gather intelligence and have a road map to take over in time if necessary.

      They be like taking candies from the children.

      Same time taunt the Americunts

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  4. But Singapore PAP politicians very supportive of India leh. See the way they vigorously defend the India CECA deal, the way they support India nationals working in Singapore, and the way they avoid imposing travel bans on travelers from pandemic-stricken India even as daily imported COVID-19 cases from India occurred.

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  5. Singapore has become a colony of India when Ghost Chocked Tongue became the Puppet Chair Warmer.

    Even today he is still singing India's tunes.

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  6. In the old days when they talked of 'Indian Accounting' you know what they mean. Nowadays when business wants to evade tax they also do 'Indian Accounting'. Does that clear the air?

    Now, Indian maps are the same. Indian talents are the same, from dubious universities issuing dubious degrees.

    What more can I say?

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  7. Aiyo Virgo, the UN used to be the stamp pad of the USA in the past, like attacking Iraq. Now with the likes of Russia and China, no more is the USA able to use the same stamp pad to do as they like, so the UN is useless and discarded by the lawless nation aka USA.

    Any world body not appeasing the USA is outlawed by them. WHO and WTO are now entangled in the crosshairs of the evil empire, because they do not toe the line according to the evil one.

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  8. If you look at the 2 LACs in the top map and understand the meaning of LAC, ie Line of Control, you will understand why the Indian LAC on the right is a line they wished to have but not in their control.

    The Chinese are in control up to the LAC on the left with PLA posts just behind that line. The Indian soldiers are on the left of the Chinese LAC. How can they claim that the LAC is the one on the right when they are not in control of the area?

    Their claim is wishful thinking.

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  9. Anti-China nationalist sentiments is running high in India. While China is trying to contain theirs without even mentioning the casualty figure in the fight with India, India is capitalising on its 20 dead by playing the victim to the world at large. And already US and Australia have taken India side of the issue by blaming China's aggression at the border just like how they frame the SC Sea disputes. India is now also using the exile Tibetan soldiers at the border giving the impression that even China's own are fighting against them.

    It doesn't help that the ruling party BJP and the opposition Congress Party are playing to the gallery by trying to see who come down harder on China just like the Democrats and Republicans in the US. While US has some clout by virtue of its economy and military power, where is India when compare to China?

    India banned Huawei, nearly all Chinese apps and even restricted trade with China. And their msms and online media anti-China rhetorics are even more toxic than those from the West. Many commentators are boasting and spoiling for a war with China now they think US is watching their back Which is kind of stupid when they have another even more deadly fight on their hands, the COVID19 pandemic that is beyond control and will soon present a gold medal to the country- for the world's highest number of infection cases.

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  10. They will beat China by talking. The Chinese cannot speak English so the Indians won.

    After getting 20 soldiers killed for nothing still think they can fight. When I heard the news that all the Indian soldiers were pushed or thrown into the river I could not help laughing.

    Did they ask why no Chinese soldiers in the river? Why only Indian soldiers in the river? Now can only hope that got Chinese soldiers die to sooth their wounded ego.

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  11. If China soldiers and India soldiers go to war and are killing each other in great numbers at the border, will the hundreds of thousands India nationals in Singapore keep the peace with the hundreds of thousands PRCs here? If they fight here, can the situation be brought under control?

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  12. India is brave and acts like a bully because India thinks that if worse comes to worse resulting in military conflict, United States of America under that idiot Trump would step in to help. Whether Trump comes in to help India remains to be seen.

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  13. What has happened to multi-millionaire GCT's son, har?

    PAP IBs, you all know anything or not?

    Greed is the devil that causes many people downfall.

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  14. For calling Singaporeans quitters, his own daughter married ang moh and became quitter, ran away to UK and never came back.

    For being too greedy, devised a plan to pay himself by the $millions every year, from a bucksie NOL CEO to Seat-Warmer, now he sees his NOL sold to France and became quitter and his son going to get sued for hundreds of $millions.

    Karma never can escape. The arrogant and entitled shall one day be belittled and made to eat their own shits.

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    1. Sounds like you have been belittled your whole life lol

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  15. Why Singaporeans CANNOT PROTEST?!!!

    Around 20,000 people protested in Thailand's capital demonstrated against the government of former coup leader and Prime Minister Prayuth Chan-ocha on Saturday (Sept 19), with many also demanding reforms to the powerful monarchy.

    "Down with feudalism, long live the people," was one of the chants.

    Protests have been building since mid-July to call for the removal of the government, a new constitution and elections. They have also broken a long-standing taboo by criticising the monarchy of King Maha Vajiralongkorn.


    While the Thai people, under a monarchy for so many generations, are now sick and tired of it, and are shouting:

    "Down with feudalism, long live the People!",

    here in Singapore, the PAP leaders openly proclaimed themselves as "Natural Aristocracy", yet Singaporeans cannot protest, dare not even complain.

    What kind of human beans have been festering inside the PAP?

    Answer: White Horses!


    What kind of human beans have Singaporeans become?

    Answer: Kiasu and Kiasi Cowards!

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  16. If Sinkies are kiasu and kiasi, how can the NSmen defend Sinkieland when invaded by foreigners or foreign countries?

    No wonder, CECA Indians are becoming so bold and daring to not only rob their jobs in plain sight, but also step over the heads of the Sinkies in broad day light.

    Yet the Sinkies' heads couldn't care less. Even continue to say Sinkieland requires to open up because we require the best talents of the world to be on our side (especially those with fake degrees from 3rd world India).


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  17. JF-17 Thunder vs Rafale Fighter Jets is a comparison that every defence expert is analysing. Indian Air Force (IAF) chief recently warned about the shortcomings of the Rafale fighter jets in a probable comparison to JF-17 Thunder. This statement came exactly a year later since Pakistan outgunned India’s top fighter jet in Balakot....

    The reports regarding the deployment of longer-ranged Chinese PL-15 missiles on an upgraded JF-17 jet have caused anxiety in the Indian Air Force. Global Times earlier reported that the upgraded JF-17 will host an infrared search and track system along with a cross-section radar that lessens the pseudo-stealthy airframe. The PL-15’s beyond visual range missile has reportedly also caused serious worry in the Pentagon....


    The PL-15’s striking range in actual aerial engagements is definitely lower than the maximum range 300 km but is nevertheless much greater than its US’ AIM-120 AMRAAM estimated to be approximately 180 km.

    US general Herbert Carlisle voiced serious concerns in 2015 when the development of the PL-15 entered the public domain: “Look at our adversaries and what they’re developing, things like the PL-15 and the range of that weapon.” General Carlisle raised the same issue in an interview with FlightGlobal: “The PL-15 and the range of that missile, we’ve got to be able to out-stick that missile.”

    The PL-15 missile, which is a radar-guided weapon, is advertised as having a greater range than both US-built AMRAAM and the Russian R-77, which is in service with the Indian Air Force.

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  18. The Thai People are known to be traditional friendly and very loyal to their monarchs.
    Unfortunately,
    Thailand also has the Highest Numbers of Military Coups.
    The Current Demonstration, Protest and Unhappiness with the Thai Monarchy is likely due much to the Poor Conduct and Behaviour of the lncumbent King.
    He has incurred the Ires of the Thai People due much to his behaviours.
    Anyway,
    the People in most nations do have a strong sense of Nationalism, Tradition and Native Culture.
    As
    for Sin, it is a Land for Opportunists and there is no sense of belonging to family and much less to the Country or even just as a society.
    The Way the Sinkies are brought up, put the Society in tatters. Kids are thrown to others such as lnfant/childcare, maid and or relative. The Elderlies are left to fend and rot by themselves. lt is a society where You die it is Your Business prevails. The Children and National Leeders have no qualm to leave the lndividuals to their own fates.
    lf Sinkies dare gather to protest or demonstrate,
    REST ASSURE THAT THE DAFT WILL NOT HESITATE TO PUT DOWN EACH OTHERS AS ORDERED.
    Due
    to the Greed and Culture nurtured over the Years, Sinkies
    are heading for the Dark End soon.

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  19. @ Anon 1204Pm
    Very true indeed that there little family and kinsmanship in Sg.
    How many 3 Generation Families are there ? Even unmarried singles do not want to stay with their parents. And those that are married, do not want to have baby. Most either cannot afford or do not have time for bringing up any child.
    The over 5 Decades of PAP Rule is fast putting the Sinkies to extinction. Might be a good ending to suffering in Sin.
    Cheers.

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