'If you're Not Chinese in Singapore, You probably don't feel welcome in these places', is an article posted by banana Nicole Chia in Rice, about her experience in a Chinese or Taiwanese restaurant here. She was having dinner with her Australian Chinese friend and very likely both could not read or speak in Mandarin. And the frustrated China Chinese waitress exclaimed,
“啊,气死人!她不可以讲华语。我还以为她是华人 …“ or 'Ah, so frustrating, she could not speak Mandarin. I thought she was Chinese'.
Because of this unpleasant experience, this banana turned the whole issue into a racist rant in Rice and Yahoo News happily propagated this with many bananas and non Chinese adding in to confirm that this is racism against the minorities. Is that so?
Read the comments by the Chinese waitress again, she was likely from China and could not or barely able to speak English. And coming from China, there is this expectation that anyone looking Chinese should or could speak Chinese. They are not like the worldly wise bananas that have travelled all over the world, probably came from some small villages with not much exposure to the outside world.
But the silly bananas were offended by her expectation, wrongly or otherwise, and twisted this into a racial discrimination incident. Of course all the bananas would echo the same feeling and some minorities would be encouraged to condemn the Chinese as racist.
This is a little country where Mandarin is an official language. But many bananas could not speak Mandarin and are damn proud of it, and even prouder because they could speak English and the China Chinese could not. And even if they could speak a few words of Chinese, they deliberately speak to the China Chinese in English to ridicule them as someone inferior. 'See, they could not speak English', as if speaking a foreign language and unable to speak your own mother tongue or your own cultural tongue is something to be proud of, especially in the face of angmohs. 'Hey guys, I am Singaporean, not Chinese, and I can't speak Chinese, it is so difficult to learn Chinese, I hate the language.' And the angmohs would laugh with them, nodding their heads but telling themselves how silly these 'Chinese' are, can't even speak their own lingo. No ethnic pride. No identity, chap cheng.
Stupidity has no cure.
Speaking a foreign language is a good acquisition but nothing to croak about. And the reason why the bananas here only speak English is because of the history of colonialism and poverty, when their forefathers had to leave their home towns to seek a living here. If their forebears would still be in China, these new kids would be happily speaking Mandarin and be very proud of being a part of one of the greatest civilisations on earth. Unfortunately without knowing history, with little knowledge, they are acting as if they have arrived and are to be respected and looked up to because they can speak English but unable to speak their mother tongue. And they are very happy to despise the China Chinese for their inability to speak English or proper English.
They did not know what is the meaning of shame and cultural pride, and ethnic identity. A Chinese is a Chinese wherever you are or however you look or whatever you call yourself. You will not look like your angmoh friends and inside they will also call you a Chinese and will wallop you because you are a Chinese and discriminate against you in their countries.
You bananas are so lucky that you still have this little piece of rock where you are a majority. Once you become a minority in this island, you will likely see signs saying Chinese and dogs not allowed, and the Chinese would be referring to you, even if you speak English.
With so many foreigners given citizenship, be prepared for the day when you become a minority here.
These bananas have no sense of humility. They simply would not talk to a China Chinese in Chinese even if they know how and would insist on speaking in English to frustrate and humiliate the other party. The courteous way in communicating with another person is to try to speak in a language that both can understand, not speaking like a duck and a chicken and think it is the right thing to do and it is the fault of the other party.
ReplyDeleteNote that in foreign media , they always mention Singapore as a nation of 5.7 million, not 3.4 million. That's also what Loong said in speeches.
ReplyDeleteIf 75% of 3.4 million Sinkies are Chinese (2.55 M), then that's already a minority in the official 5.7 million residential population narration.
One out of every five Earthlings speak Chinese. Many cannot differentiate between race and nationality. A Singaporean Chinese is a Chinese. There is no such thing as a Singaporean race. Westerners are learning to speak Chinese and many can speak fluent Chinese. Yellow bananas who cannot speak Chinese used to be insulted as having eaten angmoh shit. They are considered to be a disgrace to their ancestors.
ReplyDeletePS: I am trying to learn to speak Chinese. Not easy for a non-Chinese.
The overall population official figure is mych lower than the actual (real, truth, existing, on the ground) figure, which should be 6.7 million or more. Why?
ReplyDeleteHi Ann, just keep it up. Many of our Malay and Indian bros and sisters are very good at Mandarin. Many Africans and Americans speak fluent Mandarin, better than the Chinese here.
ReplyDeleteHi RB,
ReplyDeleteI am Portuguese-Menado mixed. I get confused by Hokkien and Mandarin. Cannot tell the difference. Thanks for the encouragement.
Not to worry, there are so many dialects and I am struggling with them as well. It is the sincerity of wanting to communicate that is important.
ReplyDeleteWhen I was in a smaller city in China, not a small town or village, the tour guide spoke to himself, 'They look the same but talk and think so different, and did not know simple things about Chinese culture and history.'
This is true as our history books were mostly about European history and our fables were about Prince Charming and Snow White etc etc. We are programmed differently.
Banana are very proud that they cannot speak Mandarin
ReplyDeleteRB
Banana or not,
proud or not,
can speak Mandarin or not,
doesn't matter lah.
Got lots of money or not?
Can make lots of money or not?
If got money and also can make lots of money, that's what really matters.
Better still, if got money and also got power, like the PAP.
Hi Ann, just keep it up. Many of our Malay and Indian bros and sisters are very good at Mandarin. Many Africans and Americans speak fluent Mandarin, better than the Chinese here.
ReplyDeleteRB 9:30 am
But then these Malay, Indian, Africans and Americans who speak fluent Mandarin are a minority what.
Maybe less than 30% of all Malay, Indian, Africans and Americans?
Just like those who did not vote for PAP are a minority, whether 30% or even 40%. Can vote PAP out or not, u say lah?
Rb u will be surprised that many sinkies Chinese women have married ang moh and black ants from India. I have known many cases personally. If u view the Internet porn, there are very few movies on Asian especially Chinese screwing the whites but million of movies the ang moh screwing the Asians. U even get many black antes screwing the white girls. The porn I dustry reflects the power play of diff races. I am looking for the rise of Asia and hopefully we will see that reflected in the porn Industry soon to see the white girls swallowing our cum
ReplyDeleteIt is the sincerity of wanting to communicate that is important.
ReplyDeleteRB 9:47 am
Important or not also depends lah.
If it is Chee Soon Juan (whom I think is very sincere to want to communicate and even wrote many books and personally selling it to do so), but what's the use?
Even by election also can lose, and not even anywhere close to winning some more.
When I was in a smaller city in China, not a small town or village, the tour guide spoke to himself, 'They look the same but talk and think so different, and did not know simple things about Chinese culture and history.'
ReplyDeleteRB 9:47 am
So? But they got paid, right?
And they also got audience, and you among them.
That's what really matters.
10.38am anon u are a real idiot and should be sodomized by all sinkies
ReplyDeleteNot sure the exact details between the banana & the cheena. Both the banana & the cheena certainly caused a bad situation to become worse. And both were arrogant in their mentality.
ReplyDeleteBanana expect cheena waitress to speak angmoh coz this is SG. Cheena waitress expect banana to speak chinky coz yellow skin & slit eyes.
No one had the sense to try using e.g. Google translate, or having the EQ to smilingly indicate non-comprehension & gesture for another staff to help. Instead insisting each other understand chicken & duck talk, and not giving ground?
Halo, 楼上的"朋友",
ReplyDelete你们一个两个讲到嘀嘀嘟嘟但是没有一个用华语来表达你们的观点?
香蕉有很多类别?
别人可能是PunkJio?
你们可能是KeLingKiaJio?
一样也是BANANA?
Do you think we need to pass another law in Singapore?
ReplyDeletePut up a sign at the entrance to the restaurant.
Enter at your own risk.
The following languages are not spoken by the staff here:
Mandarin
Malay
Tamil
English
And you just put a tick next to the language.
红豆先生,至少您的部落阁也得用国语来翻译呀,来表示您的诚意嘛,咱们看不懂哩。有捞您了。
ReplyDelete咱们看不懂哩
ReplyDelete12:17 pm
看不懂不要看啦。
去看得懂的部落阁啦。
Anon 12:17 pm,也许红豆先生很想翻译啦。
ReplyDelete但自己不会翻译而又没人帮他翻译。
我猜测红豆先生是英校出生的(English helicopter)
At least S'pore is the only high wage city outside of China that cheenas can get by very well without having to speak any language other than Mandarin. Just ask Li Hu, Feng Tianwei or Li Jiawei.
ReplyDeleteIf there's no S'pore, millions of cheenas from villages will not have the opportunity to earn 5X-20X their home salary working in restaurants, construction, engineering, electronics, manufacturing, logistics, import-export, transport etc etc.
Without S'pore these cheena villagers can only go to their local cities, or Taiwan or HK, all of which will pay them much lower due to much greater competition.
They should be grateful that S'pore makes it so easy for them to earn relatively high salaries.
Singapore banana versus China's Chinese.
ReplyDeleteDuck and chicken trying to talk to each other.
This is why we must join in PAP's 200th anniversary celebration of Raffles.
Ang moh can return back to Singapore and use English to help settle the differences between "Singapore banana and China's Chinese."
"They should be grateful that S'pore makes it so easy for them to earn relatively high salaries."
ReplyDeleteFebruary 23, 2019 1:03 pm
They are very grateful to PAP for this opportunity.
But maybe not so grateful to Singaporeans lah.
Because maybe they think PAP are the real owners of Singapore.
And they don't think Singaporeans own Singapore.
Is the above true?
@ February 23, 2019 1:11 pm
ReplyDelete/// Because maybe they think PAP are the real owners of Singapore.
And they don't think Singaporeans own Singapore. ///
But what do Singaporeans, especially the 70% of PAP voting Singaporeans ... what do they think?
Do you think they believe that Singapore belongs to Singaporeans?
OR Do they believe that Singapore belongs to PAP?
Do you think they believe that Singapore exist to serve Singaporeans?
OR Do they believe that Singapore exist to serve PAP?
Because maybe they think PAP are the real owners of Singapore.
ReplyDelete1:11 pm
True lah, because PAP got money and also got power mah.
U got money u also own Singapore lah.
Do you think they believe that Singapore exist to serve Singaporeans?
ReplyDeleteOR Do they believe that Singapore exist to serve PAP?
1:27 pm
Aiyo, why so complicated?
Singapore exist to serve whoever got money or can make lots of money here. It's that simple.
Nah beh, I no money can only suck egg & suck thumb. Cheebye, I only managed to win $10 for Hongbao toto. KNN next year try again...
ReplyDeleteBananas have reasons not to be proud of chinese culture. throughout history, more chinese were killed by chinese than angmo or ahnehs or whatever . but chinese choose to hate angmo or ahnehs but not their own chinese rulers elites. they chose to be blind to this fact. chinese have this capacity to exploit, hate or jealous their own chinese kind instead of helping them to succeed. it is the selfish mentality of chinese that chinese cannot become great. angmos have the ability to work together despite different languages whenever they want. maybe this is something for chinese to learn rather than jealous.
ReplyDelete其是我是化校出生的。 读化校一年才传去英校 : ) 叫我翻译难度很高, 还要花很多时间。很报歉,我不是万是通。不懂英语多看多学也是好的。
ReplyDeleteEnglish is the lingua franca of Singaporeans. Bi-lingualism helps to promote and preserve mandarin for the Chinese but it kills dialects. The strawberry generation is losing touch with dialects. No thanks to LKY. Even GCT laughed at LKY's hokkien. The motivation to learn mandarin will intensify correspondingly with China's growing status and might. In years to come, mandarin may replace English as the language of trade and commerce should the Anglo-saxon countries continue to lose more and more of their competitiveness.
ReplyDelete說真的,“新加坡香蕉人“的遭遇,并非完全他们的过失,普通话(华语/国语)本来根本不是他们的母语。Merdeka 年代的国人,肯定对方言��好感,甚至给他们一股骄傲,一把力量。遗憾的是,历史/政治的改变,使得普通话淹没了国人所熟悉的福建,广东,潮州,等方言,国人无法适应, 他们的下代,就是现在的Millennials, 情况每况愈下。。。父母(MerdekaGen),从小不用普通话教养子女,他们长大后变化至“新加坡香蕉人”, 是谁的责任呢?Muhahaha.
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红豆先生,不是咱夸你了,您的国语还不错哩,建议您经常用国语写肯定会有很多人来读您的部落阁,您慢慢考虑吧,别急啦。
ReplyDelete"新加坡香蕉人“,的问题,不是Titania Xavier,上面描述(即全怪LKY的“讲华语”运动)那么简单。本人认为,LKY 80年代开推广的讲华语运动,是一项聪明,理智的政策。 LKY的失败,不是在于这个战略,而是他拒绝True Democracy 的自然发展,还有他关闭南大,对本土中华文化,带来不能挽救的趋势。如果从当时,国人得到真正政治自由,我们的华校精英,与领袖,一定会保留,发挥中国文化。
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@ Humbleideas,
ReplyDeleteCan you please translate to English? I cannot read Chinese. Thank you.
Every little bit of crumps the power-hungry, self-enriched, chronic-capitalistic, elitist elites dished (pretentiously to help you) is actually, truly, intentionally and deliberately planned to fulfill their own selfish strategic interest: to hold on to power forever!
ReplyDeleteWhich means to keep and maintain the status quo for their own selfish interests by enslaving you in your thought, mind, body and spirit.
Sinkies are not only daft, Sinkies are also cowards. Sinkies are not only cowards, they are a collective bunch of slaves.
They enslave themselves by leasing a hollow space in the air called HDB flats.
They enslave themselves by paying for the space in the air at an exhorbitantly absurd price, conned into believing that this space has been subsidized, but actually artificially inflated for profit, thinking they have enhanced their wealth through make-belief "asset enhancements", which of course has been outright shameless lies, engineered by the pathological liar!
They enslave themselves by saving their hard-earned money with the Con People Foundation that provides cheap low interest funds to two ever-greedy and ever-hungry gigantic monsters called GIC and TH until they cannot retire. Have to work until drop dead!
Finally, they enslave themselves by voting again and again for the Slave-Master to enslave them deeper, tighter and further.
This is the fate of a bunch of dafts, cowards and slaves. This will be the story told by the future generations of foreigners who are now dominating and controlling the economy and workforce, and, in time to come, will take over the Little Red Rock and turn it into a Little Black Rock for good!
Another 10 years, and the situation will be irreversible! Unless, the lulled into complacency wakes up with a sense of urgency to do something for themselves and their own future generations (not foreigners' future generations) in the next few years!
The Chinese language has a longer history than the English language. Although LKY failed to master the intricacies of the Chinese language, he persevered. He had once described himself as an anglophile. But with the passage of time and after his frequent visits to China, he gradually became more of a sinophile. His insistence on bi-lingualism enabled Singaporean Chinese to leverage on their knowledge of mandarin. China is an economic superpower. Non-Chinese countries are handicapped when they do business with China. They need translators. The day mandarin may become a universal language cannot be too far away.
ReplyDeleteWell basically, I said that the phenomenon of Singapore Yellow Banana, is mostly not due to the Speak Mandarin Campaign of LKY as suggested by Titania. It is IMHO due to suppressed Democracy and Purge of established Chinese influences in Singapore such as Nantah, and the Chinese intelligentsia. With the demise these two elements, the future generation of local Chinese continues to see their grasp of Chinese culture degenerate, to the extent they even hate it. Part of the blame also goes to parents who don't know mandarin, and don't fancy usings dialects (which they are highly proficient), with their children. It is a complex sad problem.
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Thanks for the translation. LKY killed dialects through his bi-lingualism policy. I never mentioned anything about The Speak More Mandarin campaign as it was hogwash propaganda to promote his agenda and has nothing to do with the yellow bananas.
ReplyDeleteIt is presumptuous and a fallacy to believe that Singapore Chinese businessman has an edge over non Chinese who require translators. It is said "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing". Especially, the Millennials Chinese Sg generation has a worse than kindergarten level knowledge of Chinese, when meeting his mainland China counterparts, it is a big big embarrassment. Not just in cultural or small talk, but also in perception of the world and depth of understanding of world politics. From young,Singaporeans are being trained as robots by the System, we are disadvantaged not just by the language-culture hurdle, it is much deeper than that.
ReplyDeleteHumbleideas
It's a question of "who needs who?"
ReplyDeleteIf I have something valuable to offer.
You will learn to speak my language.
If I know that you will always vote for me.
Why should I work so hard to benefit you?
Isn't it logical that I work hard to benefit myself ... since you will always vote for me no matter how badly I screw up?
Titania, specifically, you did not mention about the speak mandarin campaign, but you did say bilingualism killed the dialects. How did bilingualism kill dialects? It's because LKY banned all dialects in the media and started the speak mandarin campaign. My view as stated in my Chinese comment, is that this is NOT WRONG. What is wrong is the suppression of freedom of expression and purge of Nantah, the last bastion of hope for the future of Chinese cultural ideas in Singapore. Nantah was destroyed for political reasons, but it has a collateral damage which to this day we are suffering from, abstract as it may seems. Look at Taiwan, they promoted mandarin too. Look at China, they promoted Putonghua (Mandarin) too, but their society is alive, vibrant, and flourishing. Because they allow freedom of expression. Yes, China in some ways is more democratic than Singapore, the citizens know their rights, and they can demonstrate, within certain reasonable limits. But here in Singapore, you know I know lah.
ReplyDeleteHumbleideas
/// What is wrong is the suppression of freedom of expression and purge of Nantah .... Nantah was destroyed for political reasons ... ///
ReplyDeleteFebruary 23, 2019 4:14 pm
How can it be wrong when 70% of Singaporeans voted for it?
And Singaporeans still continue to vote for it in 2015.
Angmohs use Singapore as a conduit to enter the Chinese market. They know Singaporeans can read and write mandarin and English. Hong Kong and Taiwan are taboos. The role Singapore plays may not last forever. As more and more non-Chinese-speaking countries learn mandarin, Singapore will graduaĺly lose the leverage. So it must make hay while the sun shines.
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately, the pro-western PAP leaders are not helping Singapore. China sees no reason to help Singapore which is run by a bunch of PAP yellow bananas. It is quite a disaster. Malaysia and even Thailand are brushing up their mandarin. It's a no brainer. Knowing mandarin helps to go an extra mile when doing business with China.
At one time, when Sinkies Chinese employers advertised for jobs specifying that Mandarin is required as they are dealing with China's business.
ReplyDeleteThere was a Big Hoo Haa by the Black Ants of what's racial
Discrimation.The Mats are more restrained.
Our Papies Ministers and MPs should straightaway just explained that they are not discriminatory.
They just heeheehaa the whole matter afraid to antagonize them.
Another incident, an interview, the SME Managment staff in an excited manner told the staff not to employ a Black Ant in front of her as they required a Mandarin speaking employer.
Wah, another Hell broke loose. The Poor HR was sacked.NTUC said should be no discrimation.
What's discrimation they screaming?
You think the Ah Nehs would employ Chinkees in their Companies ?
See the situation now in Sinkieland. The Black Ants now in control of the Mananagemnt had their whole villages with their cows in Sinkieland.
Sinkieland Chinkees are just too dafts.
Another 10 years, and the situation will be irreversible! Unless, the lulled into complacency wakes up with a sense of urgency to do something for themselves and their own future generations (not foreigners' future generations) in the next few years!
ReplyDeleteThe pro-American stance of Pap govt IMHO need to be analysed apart from the cultural issues we are discussing. Do remember always Singapore is a Kosong land, with zero resources. Malaysia has rubber, timber, palm oil, light industries, even car factory. Thailand has rice and minerals. So every other country has something to offer the world. Our only gift to the world is our brains, which unfortunately has been emptied hollow by the current regime. Our resources are merely artificial fake value of properties bubbles. If 2 atomic bomb killed all the Singaporeans here, THE WORLD WON'T MISS US. There is nothing irreplaceable in the Singapore economy.
ReplyDeleteSO where'd we get our foreign exchange to buy things to survive? By foreigners investing here and setting up of offices, by services (insurance,legal,and soft industry) American and Europeans, need ,in return they help make our SGDollar strong. SGD rate is managed at an incredibly strong level (its called a Dirty Float, where the govt steps in and "does magic" to maintain the rate) using means unbeknownst to us . Have you wondered why USD Fed interest rate hike so many times, hardly affect the SgD value whereas other places like Australia suffer periodically as they reflect the real value of their exports vs imports? Or why SGD so strong compare Malaysia Ringgit? Is it possible at all,that its our exports are so strong all 50 Years? Hahaha.
Getting hold of USD is the primary preoccupation of government here. The SGD is worthless if we do not export or generate services or acquire foreign exchange, esp USD. That's why pap remained pro USA, they are not totally at fault.
Humbleideas
天若有情天亦老,月若无情月常圆。
ReplyDelete也无风雨也无晴,人间正道是沧桑。
明月几时有知己,
ReplyDelete问青天今夕何年,
起舞清影似人间,
天上宫阙不胜寒,
乘风归去恐高处,
芬荣零落在瞬息。
海上天涯若比邻,
故乡月亮不再圆,
海内知己共此时,
但愿千里共婵娟,
唯待明月与君同。
壮年憔悴失婵娟,
浮生汗手痕染眉,
独宿寒夜泪两旁,
婵娟不在夜啼鸣,
空闺独守月中霜,
悲欢离合不长久,
秋叶落尽树凋零,
美景已逝夜更残!
Lee Hsien Yang Should Reply To Lee Hsien Loong's Poem, written on his Facebook page on Chap Ngo Mei, thus:
ReplyDelete煮豆持作羹,Zhu3 Dou4 Chi2 Zuo4 Geng1,
漉鼓以为汁。Lu4 Chi3 Yi3 Wei2 Zhi1.
萁在釜下燃,Qi2 Zai4 Fu3 Xia4 Ran2,
豆在釜中泣。Dou4 Zai4 Fu3 Zhong1 Qi4.
本是同根生,Ben3 Shi4 Tong2 Gen1 Sheng1,
相煎何太急? Xiang1 Jian1 He2 Tai4 Ji2?
Translation:
Boiling the beans to create the soup,
Filtering them to extract the juice.
The stalks were charred amidst the flames,
And of this the beans thus wailed:
"Borne are we of the same root;
Should you now burn me with such disregard?"
I see it this way:
ReplyDeleteThere must be a master-mind behind the scene.
He/she makes use of the beanstalk to start a fire
To boil the beans in order to get the juice.
This master-mind stands to benefit when the beanstalk is burnt to ashes.
Who is this master-mind?
Probably someone with a lot of power;
someone
Who wants to convert Sinkieland into Indieland;
probably one of a group of Black Ants.
Hi Anon. 6.02
ReplyDeleteEven Lau Goh huan siong, wore Ghandi and Moody/Modi Indie Suit.
What's that signify?
We are Indie Land.
That's why I felt more comfortable in Melaka with the Mats in majority than in Indie Land here in Sinkieland.
In Matland, many Sinkies always scepticial and thought that the Mats are dangerous but it is their Black Cobras and Ants that are so.
See that KL MRT robber who bashed the poor helpless lady.
Thinathayaalan A/L Gunasegan
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Port Kelang as Port Areas like old time Sinkieland Tanjong Pagar Harbour Board, enclaves of Black Ants.
Not Ali or Awang.
A/L is Anak Lelaki: Son of so and so.
I xxx to strike 4 D on my own.
Cheers
Banana is good to eat.
ReplyDeleteAnd indeed most are eaten up.
What's there to be proud ?
In almost all countries on earth, the minorities are often looked down on or even systemically bullied by the majority race. In Singapore, the majority must be careful not to emphasise, and even tries to hide, its "Chineseness", lest the minorities get offended. Indeed, we are living in an unique country.
ReplyDeleteReally Nice Blog.
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