Now APL
detoured to Xiamen, to Hong Kong and found not filing the proper documents and
the Terrex armoured vehicles were off loaded into the port in Hong Kong. Why is
this a Singapore problem? Why is Singapore sending a team to Hong Kong to
negotiate and to retrieve the armoured vehicles? Why is the Singapore govt
quarrelling with the China and Hong Kong govt? And by so doing, gave China the
opportunity to screw Singapore, to complain about Singapore not abiding by the
rule of law?
Should not
Singapore just be dealing with APL and let APL deal with China/Hong Kong? APL
shitted and why is Singapore running all over the place behaving like the
guilty party, as if Singapore shitted?
Should not
Singapore just keep quiet and tell APL to deliver the armoured vehicles or be
sued for compensation and damages? And by so doing, China would have no reason
to point the finger at Singapore and accused Singapore for any wrong doing.
What is
going on? Don’t we have the best legal talents to tell the govt, look, this is
not Singapore’s problem? This is a problem between APL and China/Hong Kong.
Singapore is just a customer of APL. Singapore has nothing to do with what APL
did in Hong Kong and how APL handled the armoured vehicles. If APL commits
murder, what has that got to do with Singapore? Why is Singapore responsible
for APL’s crime or wrong doing?
Is this so
complicated to understand? This is strictly a commercial assignment between
Singapore and APL. Why is Singapore in the thick of action in this political
fiasco?
Do you think Singapore could avoid this diplomatic row by just keeping its mouth shut? Who is the
daft one?
ReplyDeleteAPL is just a Scapegoat. For up teem times they been shipping these cargo this way from Taiwan to Singapore without hassles and problems.
That was because previously we have excellent "guanzi". Now we are having a cold spat. Far East Run from Taiwan, China, Japan with HK mainly as last transit port is the norm for all if not most major shipping lines prior SEA thence to Europe.
Other ports in Philipines, Bangkok, jakarta etc are run by feeder regional lines.
Chinese mentality . Ho lai ho kee.
You celebrate the fifteen, I can celebrate on the First.
How, also we can meet mid stream. You served me bitter wine. I can also do the same.
One fine day your balls kena stuck on wooden horse and cannot dismount. I come and cut for you.
That's leave you become Tai kum. (Eunuch)
If's not why send our teams up???
At Xiamen, they don't want to action leaving HK to handle as they do not want to be made an.enemy out of you.
Let's others said We bully kechils.
Let HK as previously under Ang Mo Sai with their flexible ang moh law give you chance.
Also, previously also Commonwealth Bros.
We have the best legal minds that is why we get involved as shipping line legal team probably not as powerful as our own. So it's better we take over the case and use the leal stranglehold to strangle hk if hk does not yield as hk also Ang moh law. That is like the logic.
ReplyDeleteRight, right.
ReplyDeleteSee how we won even International Court of Justice.
Pedra Branca.aka Batu Puteh b4 Singapore.
Cheers
Singapore should treat this as a commercial and legal issue from the start. As a customer, Singapore should just deal only with APL and let APL deal with China. So simple and clean.
ReplyDeleteNow not only one leg in the shit hole, both legs also in, and the shit at neck level, going to drown by shit.
What is the MFA doing? What is MFA for? Stirring shit, undiplomatic, poking at other countries, burning bridges, picking quarrels? Now got big trouble all keep quiet, hiding under the table?
ReplyDeleteAPL is like the prick that did the screwing and the innocent dumb balls got hung.
ReplyDeleteWhy Singapore garment fighting the case not APL? Catch no ball.
Suckers.
This is not APL's issue.
ReplyDeletePRC seized the Cargi just to teach Sinkieland leaders like Georgie Boy said mine boh tua big sua.
If not why so many of their stooges shouted we must not be cowed by them linking Michael Fay's canning to this occurrence.
APL been in this Run/Trade years ago. B4 also NOL. Other lines Hanjin, NYK GGM etc also in this route
Armoured military wares declared in adavance and no where they can be hidden as they are loaded on deck on full view of all cargo
As long as they are not sanctioned by the UN to be illegal as Sanctioned Cargo like to North Korea for example they are allowed to be transit with safe passages on.commercial vessels.
Also, sinkieland is one of the most friendly hypocritical nation in the whole wide world which even our Tar Man invited to be chairman of G30. No way they harmed our goods.
It's because its is a Tat for Tat
Also, no explosives with these carriers no need to declare Dangerous or DG Cargo.
So no excuse they seized for this excuse or reason
This was APL's issue. China wants to make it a Singapore issue. Singapore no need to accept it and carry the can. Just act innocent and ask China to deal with APL. But the stupid accept it as a Singapore issue. Now furiously trying to defend themselves when they don't have do.
ReplyDeleteThey forget to pass the buck back to APL and happily carry the bucket of shit around.
How stupid can they be?
But Mr Rebean Sir.
ReplyDeleteSingapore is still the Legal Owner of the Cargo.
Legally, they are severally and legally bound jointly together to claim the Cargo.
As a commercial shipping line, they are just acting as a carrier for the owner of the Cargo
Only as a servant in the service of transit. They are not liable to be hanged if heroin are found it them.
Shipping clauses: SAID TO CONTAIN : as declared by shippers.
Legally, they still will prosecute the rightfully owners.
Cheers
/// How stupid can they be? ///
ReplyDeleteDecember 06, 2016 3:14 pm
They may be stupid.
But they are smart enough to get a million dollar salary in Singapore.
While the rest of us earn only peanuts.
The 70% daft Sinkies voted for this stupid government.
ReplyDelete- it's a marriage made in heaven by the Founding Emperor
Hi Virgo,
ReplyDeleteTransporting the Terrex is nothing illegal. Just make the declaration. It is different from heroin or drugs. Singapore has all the legitimate reasons to ship the Terrex. It is APL to make the declaration when they transit the ports. Unless it is Singapore's duty to make declaration, which means Singapore has no reason not to do so. There is nothing to hide, or was there?
Two is better than one. There can be two china, two america, two russia, two almost everything. A coin also has two sides. God is even a 3 in 1 package. One child policy is not good. Two is better.
ReplyDeleteMr Redbean.
ReplyDeleteI am using the heroin just as an example. The onus is still the Shipper or Owner as jointly and severally with the Carrier liable for any claims or damages. Because in containerised vessels the cargo are been prepared by the shipper and the carrier does not have 100 percent knowledge of them. THAT'S WHY IT IS BASED ON THE SHIPPERS' DECLARATIONS.
The carrier protected themselves with shipping clauses on Bill of ladings like Shippers Load and Count. Said to contain.
Definitely APL had made the necessary documentation as they had been carrying the same many times.
Operations staff in carrier POL are very aware of the Customs and necessary paper works for next port of call. Heavy penalties if run foul of their requirements. Customs Authority in any country are like the lords and they can always on the flimsiest excuse toyed with you.
In this case, APL is just a scapegoat like the grass under one elephant and one mousedeer fighting or making love.
Both ways, they are trampled on.
Two wives is also good.
ReplyDeleteBut comes with two mothers-in-law
What China is telling you folks is that certain fights, they are above he law. If they target you, the little red dot, either you face up or back down. Try not to do a tai chi here hor. Tai Chi works best if you are chief snake and on home ground. Aiyah, don't be hypocrite lah. There are people here also above the law what. What bloody rule of law? Laws good for keeping majority sheep eating grass only lah.
ReplyDeleteLaw says cannot murder..when you go war or fight, law where got apply one. Kill kill kill. Rule of law best use for making money lah
ReplyDeleteQuanxi quanxi quanxi your head lah. When your properties get confisticated, where are your "friends"? Your "friends" busy making deals with your confisticator and drinking coke and talking cok lah
ReplyDeleteAll your assets in China...ahem...you know lah
ReplyDeleteHi anon, it is guanxi not quanxi.
ReplyDeleteI never guanxi so don't lah. Thks LoL
ReplyDeleteAnother word for guanxi is corruption.
ReplyDelete