tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17473688.post3815225240627490909..comments2024-03-28T17:31:22.152+08:00Comments on My Singapore News: Uniqueness of space in CyberspaceChua Chin Leng aka redbeanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11743716923635835397noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17473688.post-42355488290271367142008-09-25T17:57:00.000+08:002008-09-25T17:57:00.000+08:00hi anonymous,you are new here. welcome to share yo...hi anonymous,<BR/><BR/>you are new here. welcome to share your views. this is the last frontier that is being at risk of being regulated.Chua Chin Leng aka redbeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11743716923635835397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17473688.post-36126268280360651692008-09-25T16:24:00.000+08:002008-09-25T16:24:00.000+08:00Great discussion going on. Interesting and smart. ...Great discussion going on. Interesting and smart. Definitely, a thinking's man blog. <BR/><BR/>Only a few points. First. I don't believe govt should come in just to establish a competitive advantage in the political scene. <BR/><BR/>If they want to do that, then it may not be fair on the rest of netizens, as we dont want to see our play ground turned into some party political platform.<BR/><BR/>IAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17473688.post-78295228658527703012008-09-24T08:42:00.000+08:002008-09-24T08:42:00.000+08:00agreea absolutely. just like in this forum, we do ...agreea absolutely. just like in this forum, we do not need any rules to regulate anyone. there are goodness in beans.Chua Chin Leng aka redbeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11743716923635835397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17473688.post-47201362557807276532008-09-24T00:57:00.000+08:002008-09-24T00:57:00.000+08:00All reasonable men/ladies will subject/hold themse...All reasonable men/ladies will subject/hold themselves responsible for their deeds.<BR/><BR/>So regulation or no regulation makes no difference. <BR/><BR/>If and should regulation is mean to suppress, intimidate and create fears, again it would not frighten the Reasonable People.<BR/><BR/>So, to the Responsible People, regulation or no regulation makes no difference. Live and let live!<BR/><BR/>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17473688.post-43911477548947929942008-09-23T17:59:00.000+08:002008-09-23T17:59:00.000+08:00hi jimmy teh,welcome to the blog.anonymous posting...hi jimmy teh,<BR/><BR/>welcome to the blog.<BR/><BR/>anonymous posting will be a norm unless the authority makes an effort to trace them or ban blogs to simplify the effort.<BR/><BR/>other than those with mischievious intent, i think we should take on a nick to separate ourselves from anonymous. bloggers are resorting to remain anonymous for various reasons. but if we are saying reasonable thingsChua Chin Leng aka redbeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11743716923635835397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17473688.post-30534466577126863992008-09-23T17:35:00.000+08:002008-09-23T17:35:00.000+08:00Hi Red Beer,I also happen to believe our gahmen wi...Hi Red Beer,<BR/><BR/>I also happen to believe our gahmen will clamp down on anon bloggers. They will certainly not endorse it by blogging anon. That one is 100%.<BR/><BR/>On the issue of anon. I would like to direct this question to the director general of the brotherhood library board. <BR/><BR/>Dont you think anon is bad? I hear alot of cases in EU and US, where anon bloggers used to bring Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17473688.post-73326621719339572572008-09-23T08:58:00.000+08:002008-09-23T08:58:00.000+08:00i believe the authorities will post with a name an...i believe the authorities will post with a name and not anonymous. that will defeat the whole purpose of engagement.<BR/><BR/>and thanks y2k. this forum is only as good as all the forumers posting here. i am very fortunate to have good forumers sharing their views in this blog.<BR/><BR/>we are getting more and more visitors by the days and from organisations. this speaks well on how we conduct Chua Chin Leng aka redbeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11743716923635835397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17473688.post-7309401440476514412008-09-23T00:53:00.000+08:002008-09-23T00:53:00.000+08:00"I don't think we should recommend that the author..."I don't think we should recommend that the authorities post their comments likewise, ie anonymously too. :-)"<BR/><BR/>How then can one develop an evil eye?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17473688.post-50814777908585112502008-09-22T20:43:00.000+08:002008-09-22T20:43:00.000+08:00Hello Red Bean,"regulations or control, depending ...Hello Red Bean,<BR/><BR/>"regulations or control, depending on how one views it, or how the authority administers it, is a very thin line. the more laws there are, the more opportunity to interpret the laws to one's advantage. i will avoid commenting on how this could be done in paradise. i will use the examples in msia.<BR/><BR/>the isa is a neutral law and was necessary during the anti Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17473688.post-90153886919310188612008-09-22T20:26:00.000+08:002008-09-22T20:26:00.000+08:00Hello Suhaw,Certainly. By “old things,” I guess, I...Hello Suhaw,<BR/><BR/>Certainly. By “old things,” I guess, I am referring to a structure or even a way of thinking and making sense of stuff and how they would fit in the greater scheme of things. <BR/><BR/>I am not very good at writing profoundly. So you have to excuse me suhaw, if I come across as vague and even not as incisive as the other writers. Nonetheless, I shall endeavor to explain my Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17473688.post-80918334346232810912008-09-22T18:25:00.000+08:002008-09-22T18:25:00.000+08:00hi y2k and suhaw,i have two positions on the contr...hi y2k and suhaw,<BR/><BR/>i have two positions on the control/regulation of internet. as a matter of principle, i would like cyberspace to be free for the free souls. they can be called to answer whenever they break the existing laws. no escape in this area whether they are new laws or not.<BR/><BR/>as a matter of practically, some minor regulations may be necessary. and i can live with that.<BRChua Chin Leng aka redbeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11743716923635835397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17473688.post-88496483920135933502008-09-22T17:34:00.000+08:002008-09-22T17:34:00.000+08:00On September 22, 2008 at 5:03 PM, anonymous said.....On September 22, 2008 at 5:03 PM, anonymous said...<BR/> "I think the real key to government success in blogosphere may lie in having to UNLEARN old things rather than LEARNING new things like break dancing and rapping."<BR/><BR/>I am in agreement with most of the things you wrote in your comment.<BR/><BR/>Pardon me for asking what may seem obvious to many readers: Would you be able to suhawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00399220791514447549noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17473688.post-47963497029545980692008-09-22T17:22:00.000+08:002008-09-22T17:22:00.000+08:00On September 22, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Anonymous wrote:...On September 22, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Anonymous wrote: "When in Rome do as the Romans do.<BR/> "If you keep talking all this language of regulation, control and making the world a better place using a hammer."<BR/><BR/>First, AIMS is recommending that a few existing regulations be eased or even repealed, ie we are calling for a relaxation of the rules, not new ones or more onerous ones. Won't yousuhawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00399220791514447549noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17473688.post-32184703349367934002008-09-22T17:11:00.000+08:002008-09-22T17:11:00.000+08:00Hi redbean,I am happy that we agree that there are...Hi redbean,<BR/><BR/>I am happy that we agree that there are times when the authorities have to act on some cyberspace actions which infringe upon real-world laws.<BR/><BR/>However, I am not quite sure what you meant when you wrote: "need to control just because cyberspace exists". Personally, I am not sure how any government can "control" cyberspace. Sure, governments will pass laws to suhawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00399220791514447549noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17473688.post-47008792834463676692008-09-22T17:03:00.000+08:002008-09-22T17:03:00.000+08:00Hello,Just to add on, if I may?“Imagine if you wer...Hello,<BR/><BR/>Just to add on, if I may?<BR/><BR/>“Imagine if you were to run a food outlet and some malicious individual were to spread some rumours online questioning your outlet's hygiene, or even fake some photographs of finding maggots in the food that you serve, or post some "doctored" citations that your food outlet failed some hygiene inspections, etc.<BR/><BR/>Wouldn't you want the realAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17473688.post-49643188484753551132008-09-22T15:12:00.000+08:002008-09-22T15:12:00.000+08:00I have never been to the desert before. But if one...I have never been to the desert before. But if one day. I save up enough money. I would like to visit the sahara. As I have heard so much about it. But when I am there, I dont do as I suka (like). I will probably do as what the locals do. As I believe they have lived there for generations. So they know the place better. If they carry 2 bottles of water. I do the same. If they wrap their face fromAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17473688.post-51289447001178887202008-09-22T15:04:00.000+08:002008-09-22T15:04:00.000+08:00"Wouldn't you want the real world authorities to t..."Wouldn't you want the real world authorities to take action against the real-world malicious individual?"<BR/><BR/>Err I think that is why we already have the law of libel, defamation along with the Penal code su haw.<BR/><BR/>Besides govt's have to understand one overiding reality when they go online into the virtual world. <BR/><BR/>They are not so much movers and shakers here as they remain aAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17473688.post-27192915264833353392008-09-22T14:09:00.000+08:002008-09-22T14:09:00.000+08:00hi suhaw,i think most people, if not everyone, wil...hi suhaw,<BR/><BR/>i think most people, if not everyone, will agree that mischiefs, misconduct, crimes etc are no exceptions whether in cyberspace or in the real world.<BR/><BR/>what is unacceptable is the need to control just because cyberspace exists. and we know better what the reasons are to control cyberspace.<BR/><BR/>cyberspace is quite like once diary. confidential and not to be subject Chua Chin Leng aka redbeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11743716923635835397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17473688.post-79386003388078104382008-09-22T12:41:00.000+08:002008-09-22T12:41:00.000+08:00In many ways, a government is like an organisation...In many ways, a government is like an organisation, a company or even an individual.<BR/><BR/>While I agree with you that "cyberspace" is very different in nature from the physical 3-dimensional space, I am more hesitant to declare that the two "spaces" must be kept distinctly separate.<BR/><BR/>If cyberspace content were to refer only to other content or creations solely of cyberspace origins, suhawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00399220791514447549noreply@blogger.com