tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17473688.post5080383617363666049..comments2024-03-29T15:10:48.844+08:00Comments on My Singapore News: The SDP team that could not have lostChua Chin Leng aka redbeanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11743716923635835397noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17473688.post-68250201166956115912015-09-21T22:33:31.554+08:002015-09-21T22:33:31.554+08:00The people does have a choice, if one despair at t...The people does have a choice, if one despair at the political system, those with aspiration will eventually find ways to leave.<br /><br />There is nothing more to be said.<br /><br />Abaohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06316440811389250605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17473688.post-84831503537645695602015-09-21T20:30:37.183+08:002015-09-21T20:30:37.183+08:00Was there such a factor?
RB 10:46 a.m.
Of course....Was there such a factor?<br />RB 10:46 a.m.<br /><br />Of course. The factor of WP not performing, be it Town Council or in Parliament, despite Aljunied voters giving Teochew Ah Hia and team a chance in GE 2011, and also in BE 2012 and 2013. <br /><br />So why should they give WP another chance? And if even WP can't perform, what makes 70% think SDP, much weaker than WP, can perform? And Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17473688.post-86905642762184849712015-09-21T10:46:30.823+08:002015-09-21T10:46:30.823+08:00The electorate is not a monolithic block that resp...The electorate is not a monolithic block that responds to a stimuli uniformly. They are divide by many factors, age, race, education, employment, sex, income, emotions etc etc and would react differently.<br /><br />The results suggested that the electorate acted in one way, consistently across the board. This is unusual, highly unusual, unless there is a national crisis or a factor that strikes Chua Chin Leng aka redbeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11743716923635835397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17473688.post-24966256709119666662015-09-21T10:04:42.462+08:002015-09-21T10:04:42.462+08:00Hehe.....
Think Redbean has indeed put much effor...<br />Hehe.....<br /><br />Think Redbean has indeed put much effort in studying and examining the Sin Politics.<br /><br />Most Singaporeans in general are baffled by the General Election Results. They are trying to find and even give as much reason to the one sided result. Some claimed the Oppositions are weak, disorgsnized and in fragments. However, most suspected underhabnd tactics, rigged andAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17473688.post-38740514314769811652015-09-21T09:38:37.420+08:002015-09-21T09:38:37.420+08:00@ RedBean. I would be careful about making claims...@ RedBean. I would be careful about making claims that "almost all the Malay vote went to the PAP". This might be something you are unable to prove. <br /><br />Also in the first place, to suggest at the beginning that all Malays would definitely vote for SDP because it has a Malay candidate while the PAP team does not doesn't seem right. Are you suggesting that race is the onlyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17473688.post-2649211825351603632015-09-21T08:35:03.212+08:002015-09-21T08:35:03.212+08:00Hi Anon 8:25, you made your points. There is a big...Hi Anon 8:25, you made your points. There is a big mystery surrounding this GE with the kind of results that no one believed is true. Everyone is trying to put a finger on the factor or factors that led to this mystery. New citizens no doubt contributed a big part in the results. How big is the new citizen factor? Can we trust the official data on new citizens?<br /><br />Don't forget, the 10Chua Chin Leng aka redbeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11743716923635835397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17473688.post-76122353961430587582015-09-20T23:00:48.041+08:002015-09-20T23:00:48.041+08:00I'm confident that for Aljunied, the WP has no...I'm confident that for Aljunied, the WP has not lost any votes. <br />Anon 8:25 p.m.<br /><br />Please lah, for the AHPETC issue alone, and also for the WP MPs not performing well in Parliament, including even their star MP Chen Show Mao, WP would surely have lost some votes.<br /><br />These voters are simply asking themselves, what is the advantage for them to continue voting for WP again?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17473688.post-68515727287100201972015-09-20T21:56:51.416+08:002015-09-20T21:56:51.416+08:00Anon 7.24pm, my point is simple, the opp made the ...Anon 7.24pm, my point is simple, the opp made the choice all on thier own, to take on PAP, ill equipped, badly prepared, they came in with a mind set to win, its greed blinded, no cohesion, resignation within parties when one's view was not heel, linguistic skill crawling on the ground, some sounded more like cartoon characters than politicians, and for these people, we are suppose to voteAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17473688.post-76491373513294098312015-09-20T20:35:05.084+08:002015-09-20T20:35:05.084+08:00It's the new voters. Period. Year after year, ...It's the new voters. Period. Year after year, another 20,000, another 20,000, etc on and on probably since 1990.<br /> <br />Of course States Media & PAP & Bootlickers & New citizens & PR will not want to let true blue Singaporeans know it.<br /><br />Imagine the daily voices of States Media, PAP, Bootlickers, New citizens & PRs bombarding Singaporeans disguised as the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17473688.post-75237535325614055042015-09-20T20:25:40.640+08:002015-09-20T20:25:40.640+08:00Dear Redbean, there is no mystery. It's only a...Dear Redbean, there is no mystery. It's only a mystery if you believe the current massive propaganda that there's a 10% voters swing. That is a myth. If you look at the Aljunied GRC figures, there is only a 1.7% reduction of votes given to WP in GE2015 compared with GE2011. This 1.7% is easily accountable for if you consider voters have died or left the country. Attack this figure if you Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17473688.post-90263217042757837912015-09-20T19:24:04.448+08:002015-09-20T19:24:04.448+08:00What's the point of your comment?What's the point of your comment?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17473688.post-16007812933715007682015-09-20T18:17:54.455+08:002015-09-20T18:17:54.455+08:00What's the point, talking abt it now, who coul...What's the point, talking abt it now, who could hv won what, come next election the new citizen will be 10% or more,<br />the opp can't work together to save a fire, talk abt a nation.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17473688.post-51937497781177301062015-09-20T13:41:06.997+08:002015-09-20T13:41:06.997+08:00Wah, so much useless ANALysis.
How about my one l...Wah, so much useless <b>ANAL</b>ysis.<br /><br />How about my one line plain and simple explanation?<br /><br /><b>When representing them in parliament, the smart and successful people of Holland-Bk Timah PREFER Vivian and his team to Chee SJ and his team.</b><br /><br />Why is that so hard to accept?Ⓜatilah $ingapura⚠️https://www.blogger.com/profile/02652498247201967379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17473688.post-50312635282115921672015-09-20T11:45:56.859+08:002015-09-20T11:45:56.859+08:00
What mystery !? You and your fellow echo chamber...<br />What mystery !? You and your fellow echo chamber dwellers are still in a denial state, and refuse to admit you have been way out with all your pre-election day dreaming. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17473688.post-29275461001059704392015-09-20T10:55:18.365+08:002015-09-20T10:55:18.365+08:00I think CSJ made two big mistakes.
The 10:34 a.m.
...I think CSJ made two big mistakes.<br />The 10:34 a.m.<br /><br />Now I am beginning to realise that it is not for nothing that the late LKY once called CSJ a dud. And CSJ's failure this time, after more than 20 years in politics, is the final nail to his political "coffin".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17473688.post-16555327503848136672015-09-20T10:34:10.400+08:002015-09-20T10:34:10.400+08:00I think CSJ made two big mistakes.
First, he said ...I think CSJ made two big mistakes.<br />First, he said at the Fullerton rally that character is permanent:<br /><br />During his lunchtime speech, Chee lashed out at People’s Action Party over litigation they have been taking against the opposition for damaging their reputation. In response to this, Chee said, “reputation is temporary, but character is permanent”.<br /><br />His character has Thehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02941744057903049051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17473688.post-87221271441004104902015-09-20T09:55:43.059+08:002015-09-20T09:55:43.059+08:00The PAP knew of this weakness that the majority li...The PAP knew of this weakness that the majority likes to screw their own kind.<br />Virgo 49 8:11 a.m.<br /><br />Hahahahaha. Replace majority with opposition in above and it would be just as true. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17473688.post-64055527130978450002015-09-20T08:32:19.428+08:002015-09-20T08:32:19.428+08:00The PAP knew of this weakness that the majority li...The PAP knew of this weakness that the majority likes to screw their own kind. <br />Virgo 49 8:11 a.m.<br /><br />"Know yourself, know your enemy, 100 battles, 100 victories."<br />The Art of War by Sun Tze, more than 2000 years ago in ancient China<br /><br />"Know yourself, know your opponents and voters, 100 general (not by election) elections, 100 victories."<br />Anon Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17473688.post-92182345815687809082015-09-20T08:11:41.344+08:002015-09-20T08:11:41.344+08:00Like I said b4: The majority in Singapore living ...Like I said b4: The majority in Singapore living the lives of the minorities and the minorities living the lives of the majority. <br /><br />Yet the msjority6 deaf daft dumb still not realise yet. <br /><br />B4 the polls, so many concessions and goodies for them. <br /><br />You think they voted the Opposition??<br /><br />The PAP knew of this weakness that the majority likes to screw their Virgo 49noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17473688.post-41812270812567756262015-09-20T07:59:10.698+08:002015-09-20T07:59:10.698+08:007) Sun Tze further wrote: " 将听吾计,用之必胜,留之;将不听...7) Sun Tze further wrote: " 将听吾计,用之必胜,留之;将不听吾计,用之必败,去之。<br />计利以听,乃为之势,以佐其外。势者,因利而制权也。<br />兵者,诡道也。故能而示之不能,用而示之不用,近而示之远,远而示之近。利而诱之,乱而取之,实而备之,强而避之,怒而挠之,卑而骄之,佚而劳之,亲而离之,攻其无备,出其不意。此兵家之胜,不可先传也。<br />夫未战而庙算胜者,得算多也;未战而庙算不胜者,得算少也。多算胜,少算不胜,而况于无算乎!吾以此观之,胜负见矣。"<br /><br />8) The 100% outcome of the electoral battle is NOT decided over the 9 days starting from nomination day. That is another huge Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17473688.post-2012192558705225552015-09-20T07:31:23.687+08:002015-09-20T07:31:23.687+08:004) The assumptions and conclusion in # (1) are alr...4) The assumptions and conclusion in # (1) are already flawed.<br /><br />5) Sun Tze wrote: " 故经之以五事,校之以计而索其情:一曰道,二曰天,三曰地,四曰将,五曰法。道者,令民于上同意也,可以与之死,可以与之生,而不畏危。天者,阴阳、寒暑、时制也。地者,远近、险易、广狭、死生也。将者,智、信、仁、勇、严也。法者,曲制、官道、主用也。凡此五者,将莫不闻,知之者胜,不知之者不胜。故校之以计而索其情,曰:主孰有道?将孰有能?天地孰得?法令孰行?兵众孰强?士卒孰练?赏罚孰明?吾以此知胜负矣。"<br /><br />6) If one use Sun Tze's abovementioned criteria adapted to modern comparable formAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17473688.post-90775830987347220972015-09-20T07:19:12.114+08:002015-09-20T07:19:12.114+08:001) The conclusion that the SDP team is as good as ...1) The conclusion that the SDP team is as good as the PAP team if not better is assumed to be a correct one.<br /><br />2) Vivian has been around since 2001, the same time as Ng Eng Hen, Tharman etc. Out of the original "Magnificent 7" in GE 2001, 4 have remained as ministers. Vivian is one of them. The other one besides Ah Rooster and botak is $8 cow. In short, Vivian is an entrenched Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17473688.post-61548399959891456962015-09-20T06:46:25.908+08:002015-09-20T06:46:25.908+08:00// Technically, the SDP team had all corners cover...// Technically, the SDP team had all corners covered, a medical professional in Professor Paul Tambyah that was a head above Vivian, a woman candidate in Chong Wai Fung to match Sim Ann, a most feared opposition candidate in Chee Soon Juan and a Malay candidate in Sidek Mallek. //<br /><br /><br />Ha ha ha ......<br /><br />That is a very flawed premise to start with ......<br /><br />No wonder Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17473688.post-31637891089423950692015-09-19T23:45:51.695+08:002015-09-19T23:45:51.695+08:00Had Dr Chee Soon Juan, Professor Paul Tambyah, Tan...Had Dr Chee Soon Juan, Professor Paul Tambyah, Tan Jee Say or even RB contested as PAP candidates, they would have won. No doubt about that.<br /><br />Mystery of why Chee Soon Juan and SDP lost solved. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-17473688.post-43712646918681865332015-09-19T23:33:58.824+08:002015-09-19T23:33:58.824+08:00This must be the biggest mystery of this GE.
RB
N...This must be the biggest mystery of this GE.<br />RB<br /><br />No mystery lah, because majority voters are asking themselves the following few questions. <br /> <br />1. Not being from the ruling party and with SDP contesting only 11 out of 89 seats, can Chee Soon Juan as MP serve them better than a PAP MP?<br />2. When even a stronger WP can screw up running a Town Council, can SDP do better Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com