6/21/2019

Let’s talk massacre Part IV

Below extracts were written by Richard Spencer in Seoul from telegraph.co.uk
 

Korean War civilian massacres, Daejeon Massacre Busan Massacre Namyang Ju Massacre Truth and Reconciliation Commission
 

Authorities in the country have discovered mass burial sites containing thousands of bodies, including scores of children.
 

Trawls of records including declassified files in Washington have uncovered evidence of the massacres of at least 100,000 people suspected of having sympathy with the North Koreans.
 

In some cases, American forces are alleged to have been present and in at least one case an American officer authorised a massacre of prisoners believed to have left-wing sympathies.
The Korean War, in which South Korean, American, British and other allied forces fought the North and their Chinese allies to a standstill, was particularly bloody….
 

But under the South's military dictatorship, the crimes of its own forces were rarely discussed. The new findings suggest there was a pattern of disposing of those suspected of left-wing sympathies as the North Koreans advanced, and then again of those who were accused of collaborating as they retreated….
When the South Koreans and Americans army swept back north, a local police chief in their district, Namyang Ju, ordered those suspected of collaborating to be rounded up, along with their families.
 

The massacre in Namyang Ju was eventually brought to a halt, but not before 460 had died – one of many such killings documented in painful detail by the Commission.
 

Research in US archives has found one exchange in which a US colonel gives approval to a massacre in which 3,500 suspected leftists were shot….
 

The white American angels never commit massacres, only the coloured people?
See the lies they are spreading now to justify the massacre of Iranians, amassing more than 100,000 troops around Iran with two aircraft carriers and lying to the world that Iranians are threatening to attack American forces and Iranians are raising tension in the region. See the false flag incidents they started and putting the blame on the Iranians....

31 comments:

Ⓜatilah $ingapura⚠️ said...

@ 852

>> can u find in history when the Western Whites killed or murdered it's own people during a mass protests ( except civil wars)? <<

You should include civil wars, because it is just another “excuse” for the govt to kill dissenters.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_Great_Britain

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_the_United_States

That’s just the USA and GB...I’ve left out the Vikings, The Romans, Spainiards, Dutch, French, Germans, Portugese...etc.

Get the myth out of your head that western society is anywhere even close to being “perfect”. What you witness now---peaceful, free and democratic western civilizations were built on conquest, the idea of “racial superiority”, Manifest Destiny, Christianity---notably Catholicism...bloody, gruesome carnage, unrelenting and unapologetic...until only recently.

Westerners have killed their own in masses and done so frequently. However because of movements like the Reformation and the Renaissance, different sets of cultural values emerged. So in today’s world we have western societies which profess “human rights”, “social safety nets”, Universal Healthcare, due process in the Rule Of Law, International Justice, free, open and transparent democracy, FREE, INDEPENDENT MEDIA, Freedoms of Speech and Expression, Social Institutions...and so on. Still not “perfect”, and of course there’s always CHEATING going on...but it is GOOD ENOUGH FOR THE TIME BEING.

People who old the view that “violence doesn’t work” don’t know history. Historical evidence suggests that violence (including the THREAT of violence) is very effective as a tool...however it is costly, invites repercussions and has all sorts of other “unintended consequences”, plus some people consider themselves “morally superior” because they reject the idea of violence as a “universal problem solver”.

After Tiananmen Sq, the ongoing threat of governmental violence has kept anti-government protests in China to the minimum. Violence works.

Anonymous said...

Heard of the Inquisition?

Ⓜatilah $ingapura⚠️ said...

@ Virgo

No lah. Iran did the right thing.

Put it this way:

Suppose there's a Russian MILITARY drone flying just off the USA-Mexican border, in Mexican airspace with permission. Do you think the Americans would shoot it down? Of course they would.

All military aircraft are considered to be combat aircraft. They don't have to cross international borders to be considered a "clear and present danger".

Anonymous said...

Ego shall keep mankind at war perennially to the End of the World.
Beings survive by
killing each others;
IT IS THE NATURE OF BEINGS OF WHICH MANKIND IS THE
MOST VICIOUS.

Anonymous said...

Right! Without Tiananmen to test the Chinese Government's resolve, China may be in chaos now.

When Hong Kong eventually comes closer to the end of it's 50 year 'hands off' by China system, there will again be trouble for sure. The West will make sure it is going to be in this situation.

Xinjiang is another area where troublemakers are making use of race and religion to incite unrest. If China does not stamp down, the situation could very easily get out of hand. Outside elements are embarking on the race, religion and human rights factor to put pressure on the Chinese government. That is why China had to ban Facebook, Google etc.

Elsewhere in Myanmar, the same tactic is being used by the West to make use of race and religion factor to create unrest. What lead to the Rohingya problem and why it surfaced after toying with democracy for a short spell, and the eventual crackdown is unimportant, and the West would never take that into consideration.

What is important to them, now that Au San Suu Kyi is not towing their line, is to foster unrest, demonise the Government, start sanctions, make the people suffer more and then tell the world that a regime change must take place. But, then, Myanmar had already tested sanctions for decades. It will not work because of support from China especially. After all, the Myanmar people are used to hardship and can survive on their own rich land resources. Trade and tariffs hold no water to them.

Never forget the saying of the devil masquerading as the angel.

Ⓜatilah $ingapura⚠️ said...

@ 1139

I doubt the CCP and the PLA will do another Tiananmen in Hong Kong.

In 1989 there was no Twitter. Facebook, Instagram or YouTube. The phrases "social media" or "instant messenger" didn't exist. That means the Chinese govt had time to make up stories and excuses for Tiananmen and essentially control the narrative.

These days cannot. Even with a firewalled national internet, information can still get thru INSTANTLY.

There have also been voices of remorse, guilt and regret from former PLA soldiers who used their weapons and authority on unarmed citizens...ie their own "brothers and sisters" on that day.

Even the CCP realise (though they won't admit it), that using a cuntry's military AGAINST ITS OWN PEOPLE looks very bad to the rest of the world at a time China is polishing up its image and presenting itself as a trustworthy and non-hostile cuntry.

Anonymous said...

Aborted Strikes By US On Iran - Friday 21 June 2019

Early this morning (Iran Time) US planes were in the air and ships were in position near Iran, ready to hit several military and civilian targets inside Iran, but they were ordered to stand down, before any missile was fired.

The abrupt reversal put a halt to what would have been Trump's third military action against targets in the Middle East. Trump had struck twice at targets in Syria, in 2017 and 2018.

Whether the attacks on Iran might still go forward, no one knows.

It was not known if the cancellation of the strikes had resulted from Trump changing his mind or change in military strategy.

Anonymous said...

Today I also doubt the Chinese people are that much concern about democracy as such, though there will always be some who will always think otherwise.

Reading comments on YouTube I realise that even those well informed Chinese are rather more nationalistic than thought to be in the face of criticism by the West. They probably realise there is no such thing as total freedom.

Ancient slavery is linked to human bondage. Then comes slavery in the form of debt servicing on housing, cars etc. Now comes slavery in the form of addiction to the internet and all forms of technology and very soon AI. All inventions from the West. Good or bad, you be the judge.

Anonymous said...

Conscription is a modern form of slavery - in the name of national security, defending the country.

Ⓜatilah $ingapura⚠️ said...

@ Caught between a rock and a hard place:

I don't think Trump wants a war. From the beginning, he wasn't a war-hawk. John Bolton and Mike Pompeo here the would-be "puppet masters". Just like their predecessors Rumsfeld and Cheney---the "dynamic you" who played a blur-like-sotong George W Bush, and managed a hot war on the BIG FAT LIE about "Weapons Of Mass Destruction" Bolton and Pompeo...and to a lesser extent Senator Lindsey Graham are definitely manipulating a politically-blur-like-sotong Donald Trump.

You can tell by Trump's tidak-apa-lah-brudder reponse, his heart is just not in it to go to war. "It was probably a stupid officer who launched the missile" My jaw dropped lah!! 😂🤣 Trump knows he's on the election trail. It is a very bad idea to go into an election after starting a war NO ONE WANTS, except some greedy globalist-corporatist neo-cons in Washington.

Bolton is in the Middle East, Israel. He's going to garner support, and we know he'll also be talking to the Saudis...Israel and Suadi Arabia, both share a mutual hatred with Teheran. Trump is not politically savvy. Bolton is a "lau chiau" and damn good at it.

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Anonymous said...


Iran - The Pandora's Box

US will open the Pandora's box if it attacks Iran.

The attacks will result in a prolonged war that will not only spread to Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Syria, Oman, UAE, Libya, Turkey, Jordan, Egypt and Israel, but also the rest of the world. It will be a multi-front war.

UK is in no mood of going to war because of the Brexit problem. At present there is no PM in UK. Acting PM cannot make the decision to go to war in support of Trump USA. Theresa May has already stepped down. She does not like Trump and his bull-dozed dictatorship style.

The EU is also not in the mood of going to war with Iran. EU elections are round the corner.

Russian and Chinese ballistic-missile submarines are already in the region watching the two US aircraft carriers, in the Gulf Region, and ready to sink them if necessary.

Putin and/or Xi could have called up Trump directly to tell him to lay off?

Anonymous said...

Maybe Dotard Dumb shud consult the US~IRan or US~China or Hk protests issues with India Moodi as today is International Yoga Day, or consult some Yogi bear for answers, prob it would even bring peace to the world.
Or maybe Dotard wud just wanto hv more tariffs for US & rest of world go chaos the better, wat Yogi to him r useless chicks to him.

UG said...

https://www.theonlinecitizen.com/2019/06/21/bilahari-president-xi-must-act-if-protests-in-hong-kong-continue/

Bidadari not clear cemetry upgrade into HDB liao meh? How come still around ah? From ashes become cement still can talk? Jiao Kia Hmm Pat Lastic. I think Ang Dao Lau Cek more trustable. I should buy all China brand next time. Ang Dao Lau Cek should become some advisor to PM. Seriously. Even $600k is peanuts and Swiss Standard of living is a super honest comment. Good luck peasants. My first 2 vote is vote Workers Party. I give up already. See Kee Chiu and Lee Li Lian say something. I give up more. How to be hard working and invent things ah? Even online news say this country under one man rule or one woman rule. So dont blame 4G leaders leh. Look at Dr Ting? And the 4G leaders still dont resign and got the face to be there. And so Hum Ji never send ninja assassination? It is from Penang and Perak is it? Not Sinkies. Ang Moh and Ah Tiong must remember why is it Hongkies or Sinkies problem since we are daft? We are daft, you all are on top, still want ge kao with us, is you all brain ok a not ah? Our IMH upgrade till very big liao, Nas Daily should show it, world class.

And Xi Jin Ping and Carrie Lam want to be daft as Hongkies? Maybe should not trust Ang Dao Lau Cek and China products. Lucky Korea and Taiwan got invent stuff. Yippie. So lucky to be sinkies. Clap clap clap clap clap clap.

KAKAKAKAKAKAKAKAKAKAKAKAKAKA. Political leaders are immature. Like kids. No wonder so many war. And religious master are useless. No wonder I am strawberry. Lucky got other PAP old guards. Singapore got no cages. Now PAP all LKY people? House become smaller? Lan Hao Lan era.

UG said...

Since online news say Singapore is under one man rule or one woman rule, people say the 4G leaders lan, maybe the 4G leaders really is bottle neck, everything must listen to one person, than you all got so many credentials still dont resign and do something to prove yourself like Dr Ting? So lousy one ah? No wonder I am strawberry lah. Skin so thick. Kena say still dont resign. Cannot do anything still dont resign. Never show your children you are not jiak liao bee and forever under PAP shadow? KAKAKAKAKAKAKAKAKA. How can we do great things? Chio Si Lang. Manage NOL only also cannot. Lim peh is daft leh. Weak is normal. How can people with a lot of credentials same pattern as me? Jia lat lo.

UG said...

After I see Hong Kong thing ah, I think Xi Jin Ping also daft leh. Is Feng Shui turning? America going to rise more li hai than China? Quick buy Ang Moh stocks. Buy more. KAKAKAKAKAKAKAKAKAKAKA. Heng ah. I am singkies ah. Welcome 10 million. Do good deed. Come be singkies. PAP PAP PAP. Not right meh? TCB also ex pap live land property right? I also want leh. PAP PAP PAP. 4G leaders also never resign leh. Thick skin. I must follow. PAP PAP PAP.

UG said...

http://www.tremeritus.net/2019/06/21/we-are-the-many-who-suffer-for-those-filthy-rich-few-at-the-top-enough-is-enough/

Protect the future of your own children. Do the right thing at the Election. NO more mandate, No 2nd Chance.

I hear very long liao. You all always cheat my feelings. I am going to hide at home during election. Halimah also no need vote.

How do u expect to have cpf for your retirement when husband n wife can suka suka invest high n lose billions

Because it is call tan ma si kong kor. Wait also die tell story. Eh yao boh? Pha ham? Feng Shui issue? Buy high sell low ching ho Mr Tan? Does your investment earn you lot of money? If so teach me. I vote for you. Now who want my vote must pay me $5000. Nothing is free in this world and no one owe you a living. If not I hide at home. Save a few dollar bus fare. Even walk later my slipper rub a bit cost a few cents. KAKAKAKAKAKAKAKAKAKA.

Anonymous said...

OMG, the UiGla ka guy is here again!

Ⓜatilah $ingapura⚠️ said...

@ see pei tu lan

>> http://www.tremeritus.net/2019/06/21/we-are-the-many-who-suffer-for-those-filthy-rich-few-at-the-top-enough-is-enough/
NO more mandate, No 2nd Chance:
June 21, 2019 at 2:07 pm <<


"They said, CPF is not your money."

Actually, I said it first. And Redbean got damn pissed with me. 🤣

Anonymous said...

The Pathetic State Of Your CPF Savungs - Why Like That?

At first your CPF savings were your money, as promised by your pioneer leaders. They treat your CPF savings as a form of loan to the government in order to build the infrastructure and provide cheap housing and public facilities and services.

Later, some very smart Cunninghams "stole" your savings "leegally" possibly because of huge losses due to reckless and irresponsible gambling sprees or other secret reasins, which they are not willing to divulge. Hiding the true reason is the worst of all falsehoods. Therefore, speculations should not be prevented nor blamed.

Then the Cunninghams made use of psychology propaganda via crony capitalist media, beholden henchmen and hatched women to propagate widely, consistently and convincingly that "your CPF savings are not yours". Thereby blatantly and conveniently neglecting the unwritten promise made by the Pioneer Leaders, during the introduction of the CPF Scheme.

Now, it looks like YEW have been "betrayed"?

If so, it is unprecedented, unethical, immoral, even criminal. Therefore, it should not be acceptable by any sane, reasonable and law-abbiding person, citizen, resident or foreigner.

What do you think? Cannot think? Unable to think? Refuse to think? Or any how think (mad).?

Why like that? Due to too much power on the upper end and no power at the middle and lower ends?

Who are responsible for this state of affairs? The 69.9% or the gate-keepers?

What can you do about it? Just continue to KPKB or take responsibility and act meaningfully where it counts most?

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

"They said, CPF is not your money."

Actually, I said it first. And Redbean got damn pissed with me. 🤣
June 21, 2019 7:27 pm Matilah

I have to stop you from spreading this lie as the daft would believe it if this lie is repeated too often. Some already resigned to the fate that their CPF money already chionh kong, no chance of getting it back, so never mind.

I just want to remind the robbers that the CPF money belongs to the people who contributed and set them aside as savings for retirement. No one should dare to take the people's money without their permission and think they can get away with it.

Ⓜatilah $ingapura⚠️ said...

@ RB

>> No one should dare to take the people's money without their permission and think they can get away with it. <<

This is what people have missed, and they don't understand:

1. They already have your contribution, held "in captivity"

2. They don't need your permission. They didn't need your permission when they TOOK the money off you and your employer. They have THE LAW; your permission isn't required nor is it relevant. They deduct straight from your pay, automatically and legally.

Ⓜatilah $ingapura⚠️ said...
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Ⓜatilah $ingapura⚠️ said...

P.S.

If you get permission to take out CPF for a specified reason, you could end up owing yourself money. What kind of ridiculous shit is this? What con job of accountancy scam did they pull...and yet, it is LAW. It is also further evidence that the money stated in some account that happens to have your name on it doesn't belong to you.

I stand by my claim: CPF ain't yours.

Anonymous said...

Here is where non-citizens have all the special benefits that citizens do not have.

When non citizens contribute to CPF, it is their money to take out and leave when they go home for good. Can you say it is not their money in the CPF?

Ⓜatilah $ingapura⚠️ said...

@ 1201

>> When non citizens contribute to CPF, it is their money to take out and leave when they go home for good. <<

Yes, but if they want to come back to Singa[pore to work, they have to put that money back into their CPF, plus interest if I'm not mistaken.

You can also get "all the money". Just emigrate and renounce Singapore citizenship. But woe to you if you want to come back to live and work...

Anonymous said...

But many who left have yet to come back. Many of my relative's and neighbour's children are just doing that. None have yet to come back. So far!

Anonymous said...

Knn matilar.

U think this
hotel v cheap
n pop-pular ?

Everyone wants to come to stay and work ?

lt is a barren rock that cannot even gather moss.

Soon,
all the moss shall be killed by dirt.

imho said...

Its never about race but greed and selfishness. Angmo probably learnt from Genghis khan to overtake the world. Genghis khan also killed many. He started invading europe before europe invaded asia. But the good thing is empires never last. who knows what will happen to this small island after 100 years.

Anonymous said...

The World is in a flux.
Realistically,
one should just goes along with whatever changes taking place anytime and anywhere.
Looking ahead one year could be one too long.
Politician who predicts anything beyond his or her term, is just trying to justify his or her position in his or her position.
Many forecast rosy future decades and even centuries ahead, long after they are dead or migrated. lt is a way to get the People CON-vinced and also avoid any responsibility when thing goes wrong. All politicians are cunning and invariably prepare excuse and escape plans ahead.

What will happen to the Tiny lsland a 100 years from now.
Interesting question,
hope to read some answers from seer and crystal ball reader.

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

Ⓜatilah $ingapura⚠️ said...

@ 1201

>> When non citizens contribute to CPF, it is their money to take out and leave when they go home for good. <<

Yes, but if they want to come back to Singa[pore to work, they have to put that money back into their CPF, plus interest if I'm not mistaken.

You can also get "all the money". Just emigrate and renounce Singapore citizenship. But woe to you if you want to come back to live and work...
June 22, 2019 12:11 pm

Simplistic, simplistic. When the foreigners come back, they come with another identity, a different person. No need to put money back in the CPF.

Singaporeans cannot as everyone knows them. And many just dunno how to come back as another person, and if they tried, they are easily caught at the entry points.