6/19/2017

The ultimate test for Singapore and all Singaporeans

A family feud is now in centre stage in Singapore’s plastic squeaky clean politics. Everything is now on display and the media could do itself more harm to attempt to take sides as the social media is there to offer the truth in its purest form, uncensored, as it is. Two opposing views will be aired unrestrained for all to see and judge. Every Singaporean, every foreigner living in the little island would be watching and would have his views and opinions plus a generous dose of gossips and wild interpretations of the event. The good, bad and ugly would have no where to hide but be exposed or exposed themselves.

Right at the very top is the integrity, honesty, conduct and honour of the PM at stake. What he said and what his siblings said would all be weighed and he has to come up clean and shining as before the event. Anything else would not be good for him and his party and govt. The PM is put on the spot light, put under severe test and severe examination and cross examination in the public court of the people.

Then the members of his Cabinet/MPs too would be watched carefully on what they said or what they did not say, what they did or failed to do right. They cannot be neutral or hide under ‘no comments’. They will have to take positions, legally, politically or morally on this feud. Can they afford to be neutral, to hide in the toilet? They are not just politicians but deemed honourable, righteous and responsible leaders of the country, to stand up, to speak out and not to hide under the table. How could they have no opinion or no view on this affair? Would they take positions based on political convenience, morally right or legally correct? My guess, the parrots would have lost their voice and remained ‘diam diam’ for good measures. No comment! Eh, this is not just a family affair, many aspects of it concern the govt of the day, the integrity of leaders.

The opposition political parties and politicians would also be expected to make their comments and keeping mum is not an option especially for those that have made this a second nature or a policy.

Govt organs and civil servants too would be watched on what they do or say. Making a wrong move, choosing the wrong side, could be deadly, a misstep can be very costly, pun intended.

And the people, the supporters of the PAP/govt, the grateful hoi polloi of LKY, and those that are in the opposing camp would be watching closely on the happenings and would be making their own judgement, not just on legal issues but moral issues and the issues of filial piety, issues on honouring their idol and fulfilling his last wish. Would they grant their hero his last wish or would they refuse him his last wish now that he is dead and gone? Worst, when the lion king is dead, would they devour his young lions?

This is an occasion when the whole country is under watch, put to a test. Singapore is a nation under a microscope. What is Singapore all about, what kind of govt and leaders are ruling this island are now being questioned. Is Singapore the honourable, rule by law, morally upright priesthood nation, or it has all been a myth, a bad dream, and the truth is ugly and embarrassing to talk about?

93 comments:

Anonymous said...

This is the best of time and worst of time for Singapore. 50 years of peace and prosperity is under the microscope. Were the achievements so far a myth or as solid as a rock. Will this episode wake up the masses or make them sleep more peacefully in the end. So many things suddenly come across in the mind of Singaporeans.

Anonymous said...

This is the best time to see who would betray Lee Kuan Yew, who are the treacherous ones, who are untrustworthy ones, who are the opportunists, who are the unreliable fair weather friends, who are the deceitful ones, and who are the dangerous ones, and who are those that are hiding in the toilets.

Anonymous said...

Uncle RB. Watever the outcome this little red dot is already ruined under the rulings of that Long San. No where else in the world will u have this kind of a Royal FamiLee Disputes put on the spotlight for the world to see. It's national shame & us a disgraceful cuntry for on in the world to trample on Sinkieland honesty & integrity. We will hv difficulty doing business or sign any contract next time when we negotiate t&c with others, others will see us no up & dun do any business with a barbaric nations under a dishonourable son...Thia island cuntry already go down the drain & deep trouble..

Anonymous said...

In less than 3 years after his death, would his legacy and all his works, including the PAP, be buried with him? It sure looks like this is the beginning to end the Lee Kuan Yew era and everything that is related to him. Wait for the knives to be drawn. It could be a very sad ending and coming down very fast.

Kangaroos Tamer said...

This may seem to be just a family feud but, if you examine it in proper perspective, it is not.

The story began once upon a time in England, when Harry Lee was surprised that his 'wife' was expecting a baby (which would grow up to be the present Prime Minister of Sinkieland).

So, long long ago, once upon a time, in the Kingdom of the British Empire, a little dragon was born. Rightfully, he should have 'British Subject' as his Citizenship. However, events happened so fast that expectations and the normal norms were not to be what they should have been.....

Up-bringing and taming of the precious young dragon became a HUGE problem for the young couple, whose ambitions were intertwined with the fate of 1.5 million local inhabitants of Singapura, the entreport discovered, purchased and developed to become a flourishing centre of trade between the East and the West, not just a small fishing village which some ill-informed simpletons would want others to believe.....

Then the chance for Singapura to become 'independent' came and a young lawyer quickly became its First Prime Minister through some political maneouvres and sheer luck....

(Others please continue the story, if you like)

Anonymous said...

Some already starting to turn against Lee Kuan Yew. Despicable!

virgo49 said...


Human beans can swear On Oaths on whatsoever Holy Books. But they will tell unfold 1000 lies to cover one lie.

If they are honest in their mistakes or whatsoever deeds that they had committed and squarely admit it, then things would not be so complicated.

They are like chameleons in Real life changing colours and afflictions just for status quo and personal gains.

Can be your best friends today and worst enemies tomorrow.

Eat chickens turn to chickens and eat ducks turn to ducks.

How many you can find truthful and loyal friends??

Of no further use to their advantage, discard like rag cloths.

A happy united family can be broken up just by another sister or brother in law. Normally the Sis-in- law for they are creatures that can never get along with their husbands siblings and immediate families.

So, in a way blessings that your children chose to remain singles.

For that may spell the Diasters of your start of family squabbles and troubles.

Anonymous said...

Read CNA is about extracts. No beginning no ending.

Read this one will tell more: Scmp hk
"Lee Hsien Yang in the initial release said the harassment he was facing from “organs of state” for clashing with the premier on the matter was so grave that he had made plans to go into self-exile."

19th Scmp hk article is more informative.

Anonymous said...

Do you think our Singaporeans are spineless?
Hopelessly corrupted into silence, fear and inaction by million dollar salaries and HDB upgrading programs?

/// Today we are going to learn a lot about the country of my birth.
We are going to learn whether (as I hope) the ruling party is still full of men and women of quality and strong character, or whether "it is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!" ///
Li Shengwu

Similarly ...
Today we are going to learn a lot about Singaporeans.
We are going to learn whether Singapore is still full of men and women of quality and strong character, or whether it is difficult to get a SINGAPOREAN to understand something, when his HDB upgrading and primary school priority scheme depends upon his not understanding it.

Is the above true?

Anonymous said...

he Multi-Million-Dollars Minions under the present Mr Despicable are mostly also Despicables.

They were able to hide their true colour because of the 5th Column, theunder their direct command and control, has been painting all the fake good news about them against the interests of the commoners.

The fact that each and everyone of them have been, at the expense of taxpayers, willingly and unconscionably accepting and receiving their World Highest Salaries, Unimaginably Excessive Bonuses, and other perks such as 10 to 50 Directorships which pay at least $10,000 a month each, without a thought of donating even a single cent to Charity (except the ones forced upon them by their Superiors) speaks volumes about their character (the majority of them).

Daft Sinkies (70%) continue to be conned because they love to be screwed and suffer in silence.

jjgg said...

No Singaporean will deny the pervasive nature of the Lee family n all the hanger ons .. Singapore 's brand of meritocracy is so based on cronyism that it makes a mockery of education and raw ability.. what we need is a Mao Zedong style purge of our so called elites n start afresh .. so the natural aristocrats have been found wanting n it must come as a shock to most that the natural aristocrats are .....(fill in the blanks) in disguise!!!! We didn't call them natural aristocrats.. they called themselves that.. for me ..there are many natural words to describe the whole bunch of them

Anonymous said...

LHY and LWL have been silent for close to 52 years.
Many Singaporeans have emigrated and left Singapore during their long period of silence.
I wonder if there is anyone left to speak out for them?
......

First they came for the Socialists,
and I did not speak out-
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists,
and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—
and there was no one left to speak for me.

Veritas said...

I am long absence but this is a serious national issue that I am compelled to voice out strongly in favor of Lee Hsien Loong.

No one in USA of the right mind will tear down the former abbot of Jefferson, Washington and Lincoln. Every single nation in this world needs monument to shape common history and for pilgrimage sake. LKY house is one such monument.

LKY fear of personal worship is overstretch. After his demise, the strong paternalistic government is gone and the undesirable political development today is over-democratization. Singapore, without LKY may be on the sliding path on the like of HK, Taiwan and South Korea.

But without the hinterland of the other 3 tigers, and embedded in among Islamofascist world, Singapore lack of the resilent of the other 3 tigers.

LKY house serve as a reminder to future Singaporeans on the sacrifice of 1st generation PAP.

Today LHY and LWL obviously want to tear the house down. Whats next? Sell is to property developer for 100 million in the case the land can be re-zone into high rise buildings?

In that scenario, we will have a monument of SHAME, instead of sacrifice. It will be a shrine of mercenary greed, who prefers to tear down national monument in favor of monetary gain, totally disregard of national interest.

And LWL LHY claim of being persecuted is absolutely ridiculous. Being an elite family and having amazed huge amount of wealth, they are feared and esteemed by almost every Singaporeans.

LHY, being a sole loser for Oxley sales, choose to aired he will be migrating in a high profile manner, despite that his father build modern Singapore and he has profited scandalously from our society. He is of treacherous character.

LHL now forgoing his stake of Oxley house clearly shows that he stand for national interest. We do not want our sons to visit Oxley to do shopping or worse, to see a plush condo infested by foreigners.

Our national interest is at stake. LKY last wish got to give way to national interest.

RB, please write to support PAP.

Anonymous said...

Big BULLS!

Anonymous said...

Why so surprise, so big hoo ha for fuck?!?!?!

Since when SG politics is "squeaky clean"?!?!?!

All this is normal lah.

Anonymous said...

What national interest? Please stop pulling that trick.

This is a typical example of Old Dog cannot learn new trick?

Anonymous said...

"The ultimate test for Singapore and all Singaporeans"
RB

Test what?

Test whether the opposition can be strong and ready to be govt?

And if not, test whether 70% will vote for PAP again next election?

Veritas said...

What can LHL do to persecute LWL and LHY? We are not north Korea, and these 2 morons will never be physically liquidated.

The most they lost their jobs in public sector or GLC (obviously LHL has not even done that).

Maybe LHL can do one or two things to create nuisance for his siblings. LWL and LHY can simply resign from their jobs, keep their wealth and go tour the world.

And the propensity of selling Oxley to property developer get immensely higher after the house get bulldozed.

The house cost 100 millions or above if it ever get re-zoned.

LWL cry Jews and LHY decide to migrate to create scandals for Singapore, to get the house bulldoze. They are toxic characters.

IF they noxious wish come true, Oxley will be a monument of shame and scandal.

THe future generation will have an example of greed, treacherous character and shit to pilgramage.

Anonymous said...

10.34am //They are like chameleons in Real life changing colours and afflictions just for status quo and personal gains. Can be your best friends today and worst enemies tomorrow. Eat chickens turn to chickens and eat ducks turn to ducks.//


Angkor Virgin69,

When reading those statements, the "first and most notorious Sin Chameleon" that came to readers' mind is one "wooden block" ...?



//So, in a way blessings that your children chose to remain singles.//


For individuals, it could be especially in a "notorious" Sin City ...... due to the horrendous policies started by an "equally notorious and horrendous chameleon aka wooden block" ...?

But for human civilisation or any nation, is it?

Anonymous said...

The most salient common point repeated and echoed in LHY, LWL & LSW msgs is "clear and loud" ......?

Unless "the understanding of such (CLEAR as SUNLIGHT) msg depends on the selfish short term myopic self-interests of not understanding it"?

What is that (CLEAR as DAYLIGHT, COMMON) msg?

Anonymous said...

When mee started work some yrs bk, one 3 yrs yger offspring of a wheeling dealing bzman uttered one day during a working lunch (as a matter of factly):

"To succeed, one needs to (learn and be willing to) be made use by someboLEE (much) more successful premised on having that "capital"" ......

For a (tiny) nation, what does it mean (& what kind of leaders or leadership does it need)?

Anonymous said...

The Lee Family’s Path to Exile

https://kenjeyaretnam.com/2017/06/14/the-lee-familys-path-to-exile/

Worth a read.
About our other Singaporean exiles.

Anonymous said...

If it takes an equivalent of a "giant" (in every generation) to make a micro-state succeed and continue to succeed, is it possible and realistic?

If not, what next?

Will a "society with closed minds, eyes, ears, mouths, noses" but with "opened zips, briefs, patties, bras, ..." succeed without the "steermanship of a giant"?

Anonymous said...

If it is impossible to ensure a "giant" emerged in such structure to be the "steerman", what would be the corollary of such setting?

Could it be such (tiny) micro-state has far better chances if the "society is of minds, ears, eyes ..... opened"?

No society can ever thrive when "Yes" is the "answer to every wrong and right" and "Yes" is (& can) be the "only right answer" (bcos self-interests depends on saying it?)

Anonymous said...

@ Veritas @ June 19, 2017 11:48 am

/// Maybe LHL can do one or two things to create nuisance for his siblings. LWL and LHY can simply resign from their jobs, keep their wealth and go tour the world. ///

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This is called bullying.
Why are you slandering LHL by implying that he is a bully?

Is this how you "stand up for Singapore" ??
Are you saying that Singaporeans are a nation of bullies?

Anonymous said...

"To succeed, one needs to (learn and be willing to) be made use by someboLEE (much) more successful premised on having that "capital"" ......
June 19, 2017 12:14 pm

I think this is called being a prostitute.

Do you think Steve Jobs also succeeded this way?
Do you think Bill Gates also succeeded this way?

Veritas said...

We are not too sure if LHL is bullying his siblings, but the most likely alternative is another condo and mall at Oxley.

LHL has forgo his stake. That shows he is working for the people in this case.

Anonymous said...

Rb, lucky u not dabating with my Nephew. Fir him anything disagreed with government view, he does not debate, he just ask you to fuck off from Singapore, I decided not to debate with the block wood and save my energy and time.😀😀😀

Anonymous said...

LHL has forgo his stake. That shows he is working for the people in this case.
June 19, 2017 12:57 pm

Mental masturbation.
No logic.

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

Welcome back Veritas. Your views are noted.

Anon 1:09pm, agree, sometimes it is good not to debate and agree to disagree.

Anonymous said...

SUNTEC INSISTS DRIVER PAYS ERRONEOUS $215.60 PARKING FEE DESPITE CCTV FOOTAGE EVIDENCE
----------------
Do you think Singaporeans have all been made brain dead by the PAP government?
Nothing here is worth saving or dying for?

http://www.allsingaporestuff.com/article/suntec-insists-driver-pays-erroneous-21560-parking-fee-despite-cctv-footage-evidence

Veritas said...

Every nations create their own motif to shape the future generation. Despite of the so call democracy of USA, no one can bulldozed house of Jefferson, Washington and Lincoln, selling them to property developer.

Similarly, you get to see Traffagar Square or streets name with Waterloo everywhere in UK.

And France despite of willing to bury in the banks of Seine, the French put Napolean in a stone sarcophagus at Invalides.

The will of Emperor Napoleon is nothing, vs national interest.

Anonymous said...

I see a special running dog being activated to do damage control.

Anonymous said...

We are not too sure if LHL is bullying his siblings, but the most likely alternative is another condo and mall at Oxley.

This tactic is called "Denial" cum "Fear-Mongering" to sweep everything under the carpet.

LHL has forgo his stake. That shows he is working for the people in this case.

This tactic is called "pluging something from thin air".

LHL has no stake whatsoever because his father did not leave anything to him in his LKY LAST WILL!

Anyway, he has already made a quick handsome sum of money by forcing LHY to pay him for LKY's house for 150% of the price.


Veritas, you are not doing a good job. Is it because of too much stress and pressure. You can do better than that?

Veritas said...

You idiot.

In a statement issued by his lawyers on Thursday (June 15) night, giving an edited summary of what he had told a ministerial committee, PM Lee said he had offered to transfer the property to his sister, Dr Lee Wei Ling, at a nominal sum of $1.

Veritas said...

Oxley was apparently split into 3 (maybe there are more) between Loong, Yang and LWL.

PM Lee forgo his stake, while his siblings are still holding on to them. PM Lee stake is worth a fucking 33.33 million SGD.

Veritas said...

LWL and Yang can prove their altruism by donating every single proceeds into charity like the example of PM.

Then I will believe they are not going after fucking monies.

Anonymous said...

SALUTE NSMEN CAMPAIGN REQUIRES THE PUBLIC TO SALUTE EVERY SINGLE SECOND EVERY DAY
-----------------
Another brain dead idea from the PAP government.
Helps put the Oxley dispute in perspective.

http://www.allsingaporestuff.com/article/salute-nsmen-campaign-requires-public-salute-every-single-second-every-day

Anonymous said...

@ June 19, 2017 2:42 pm

Yes it's a typical dumb PAP government idea.
So what do you say about the 70% who voted for them?

Stupidity has no cure.
Vote in a new government.
Burn all the LKY books.
And start all over again.

Anonymous said...

Veritas, get your facts right by presenting both sides of the story, not just depending upon one edited statement from one favoured side, before calling other people idiot.

Please note that resorting to name-callung and character assassination do not speak well of your own ability and character!

Anonymous said...

Dear all
The real issue is not the Oxley house or LKY's wishes or will.

The real issues are:
1) checks and balances on the power of government.
2) ownership of private property.
Can the government confiscate our property against our wishes?

3) does Singapore have an impeachment process in place to remove a government that has gone rogue?
- example like America's impeachment process
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment

agongkia said...

Anon2.26
Sifu?
Sibeh jialat
Almost every kopitiam heard apek talking about this trivial family dispute like it's their property.
Read it's value is about 25 million in 2015,developer turn into condo can worth 100 million.
Now netizen claim 1 third is 30 over million before sales...
Please lah.Give them a break.
Not as if we have no other critical issue to pay attention to.

b said...

Solution is so simple. Just tear it down and build a tall building. The penthouse level to be coverted into a museum for LKY. LHL, LWL, LHY will each own one level. The rest of the level to rent out and the income goes into a trust fund for charity. That will please the late LKY.

Veritas said...

The sacrosanct of private property is a piece of BS by neo-liberals and neocons, which acted against the peasants, in favor of Oligarch.

Without the land acquisition act, SG will be another mess like Bangkok, KL or Taipei and we cannot develop. Now when you go Beijing and get amaze by the ultra modern cityscape, enjoying infrastructure that no western country is able surpass. How is this possible?

In essence, the modernization of China city is accomplished through gross violation of property rights, but in the long run, the original inhabitants get far more compensated.

In time of vital national interest, the white man government will sacrifice individuals. For example, FDR introduce the gold confiscation act, that rob USA citizens of their gold.

In short, every individuals is expect to do their duty for states and common good.

Meanwhile, the imbecile keep believing that there the nonsense of inviolability of private property. You must be intoxicated by our fucking A level economics.

Anonymous said...

$100M is small fuck for LHL. He don't need no fucking $100M. He needs original Oxy to be his new HQ. Will be the PAP campaign HQ for next GE2020. Mediacock & Cock News Asia will be invited to setup 24/7 video & news reporting direct from Oxy during next GE. Some of the video footage will be shown in black & white, macham like in 1959 or 1963 or 1965. LHL & all the other PLPs will dress like in 1960s --- all Sinkies will be shocked to see the return of LKY.

LKY already predicted --- if he sensed something wrong, he will rise from the grave.

This will happen in GE2020. For this prophesy to happen, LHL need to have original Oxy to blow trumpet.

Veritas said...

LHL intended Oxley for heritage site.

By putting it in good hands, LHL prevented Oxley from being sold to developers, in case they build a toilet or even brothel out of that real estate.

You guys who support Yang and LWL, how you going to answer to your children or foreigners when that happen?

It will be our fucking disgrace.

Anonymous said...

If fucking is a disgrace, then stop fucking lah! Idiot!

Anonymous said...

There is a bootlicker working extra hard trying to swing public opinions here. Great job, Bruno!

Anonymous said...


After this episode, it has been said that PAP is very likely to increase their votes to 80%!

Furthermore, PAP is very likely to take back H smc and A grc!

Possible?

Anonymous said...

Selling to his brother is ok? No profit made?

Anonymous said...

Listen.

LKY's real intention to demolish his house is to prevent future PAP mediocres from milking his legacy for their own political purposes.

By handing over the decision to preserve his house, despite his expressed wish, to a committee of PAP cadres is like handing over a lamb to a pack of hungry wolves!

Anonymous said...

Is this the same Veritas?
This one sounded so illogical, so out of touch with reality.

Veritas said...

Who is greater than Lincoln, Mao or even Stalin?

The day when Kruschev destroy Stalin aura start the path of eventual Soviet demise.

In Taiwan, the ridicule of Chiang Kai Shek monument by the DPP shape the minds for succession against China.

The succeeding leaders will sure to milk the founding fathers' legacy.

Anonymous said...

We tabled this issue for discussion after our Kuda riding session. It's our committee view that the disputed be solved by private arbitration and stop washing dirty linen in public and wasting tax payers money on ministerial committee.

After discussion, we felt happy and starts our second Kuda riding session. Agongkia, we can invite you to join our session but unfortunately it's not free as you normally ride some old aunties. Exit acted cost per head $1000 per session.

Michael Tan
Chairman
Singapore Kuda Riding Club

Vice Presudent
Asia Pacic Kuda Riding Club

Board Member
International Kuda Riding Club

Cc all committee members
Singapore Kuda Riding Club

Anonymous said...

Some clowns are calling this feud a petty family quarrel.
Do the clowns consider the allegations of abuse of power, using government organs for personal interests, etc etc etc petty?
Or the clowns chose not to want to understand, like Lee Sheng Wu said, when their salary depends on not understanding the issue?

Anonymous said...


The talk-of-the-town for the last few days must be 38!

Hahaha...........a little side-talk just about the number 38.

In cantonese, 3 and 8 are very good numbers, long life and prosperity!

But in hokkien, 38 = stupid!

Veritas said...

LHL has already forgo his share of Oxley. I am not too sure what he got to gain from this saga - monetarily. Meanwhile the entire Singapore will have a monument, rather than a whorehouse, in case it was being sold to property developer who decide to develop it into a brothel.

GOS and LKY has always require people sacrifice, in NS, and land acquisition...etc, full violation of individual and property rights.

I do not see why Yang and LWL got to be exempted.

Anonymous said...

Selling the property to his brother at 150% market price is forgo his share?
You seow ah?

Veritas said...

PM offer transfer Oxley $1 to Weiling.

Anonymous said...

Someone else is watching quietly amongst us: Lee Hong Yi. The 3rd-gen lee is watching and learning from his pa how to use the knuckle-duster to take down people who stand in his way, just has how lsl has learnt from his pa. HongYi's time will come, his ascension almost unstoppable. And history will then repeat itself.

Those who perpetrate evil will come to no good end. Even in death, they cannot rest in peace.

Anonymous said...

Veritas, stop talking nonsense. Go and read up the case and get your facts right.
You are talking like someone under the influence of drugs, hallucinating.

Anonymous said...

Veritas, normally what you posted make some sense but recently we don't know why you are smoking man! Got your facts wrong and posting nonsense and calling others idiots etc.

May be you should join Michael Tan to relax man! Riding Kuda may be good for you.

Anonymous said...

Lee family feud comes at ‘great personal cost’, but needed due to ‘broken social compact’: Lee Hsien Yang

Younger brother of premier says abuse of power has unbalanced the Singapore equation where civil liberties may be curtailed in return for the rule of law and a government utterly beyond reproach

http://www.scmp.com/week-asia/article/2098907/lee-family-feud-comes-great-personal-cost-needed-due-broken-social-compact

Veritas said...

LKY time has more abuse of power than LHL. Weiling and Yang is not being honest.

In fact, under Loong, SG is democratized far more. And subsequent leaders after Loong will get more and more dilute in power.

The dilution of power is our biggest worry, rather than concentration of power.

We need to pray Loong and subsequent leaders can have more power in hand, to prevent SG being captive of special interest group.

Anonymous said...

K. Shanmugam, the home affairs and law minister, meanwhile said the government was busy attending to “serious business” relating to citizens’ welfare.

http://www.scmp.com/week-asia/politics/article/2098826/leaders-urge-lee-kuan-yews-children-end-public-bickering-more
+++++++++++++++++++++

Fake news or real news?

Do you think it is real news when MRT stops breaking down?
Do you think it is real news when unemployed Singaporeans can get employed again?
Do you think it is real news when old Singaporeans stop collecting card boxes for exercise?

Veritas said...

The worst outcome of SG will be a total pseudo-democratic system like what we see in USA and Europe. Upon then Banksters like Goldman Sachs will call the shot using the president office as proxy.

And civil service and securities will be become deep states.

Special interest groups like Islamo, feminist, gay, Bumiputra-ist, Hindus will KPKB, derailing all possible development.

In fact today pervert like Alex Au already won a lot of sympathy making everyone else look like they persecute gays.

And mofos like Alfian Saat keep ranking Chinese are racist.

Its time social media help to highlike such danger.

Anonymous said...

///The worst outcome of SG will be a total pseudo-democratic system like what we see in USA and Europe. ///
June 19, 2017 6:48 pm

Fake news! Fake news!
A self induced orgasm from mental masturbation.

Veritas said...

Even Xi Jinping wont have power of Mao.

Deng is less powerful and Mao. And Jiang is less powerful than Deng.

We can expect the power concentration of PAP to become less and less. The biggest worry today is not dictatorship but lack of dictatorship.

The strength of our system is about a strong government getting job done. We may become like USA, full of political gridlock, and not having even 1 km of HSR built.

Anonymous said...

The strength of our system is about a strong government getting job done. We may become like USA, full of political gridlock, and not having even 1 km of HSR built.
June 19, 2017 6:56 pm

Fix the MRT first lah!
Still want to mental masturbate over the yet to be built (God help us) HSR.

Anonymous said...

The flawed agenda of the Oxley House Ministerial Committee
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/// According to DPM Teo Chee Hean in his statement release on 17 June 2017, the Government has the responsibility to consider the public interest aspects of any property with heritage and historical significance, and that this applies to the House. - I have no problem with that statement.

But DPM Teo Chee Hean then went on to say: "The Committee has thus been looking at the options available for 38 Oxley Road while paying particular attention to respecting Mr Lee Kuan Yew’s wishes for his house."

What is the relevance of Mr Lee’s wishes for the House?

In considering the historical and heritage significance of the House, what is the relevance of Mr Lee Kuan Yew’s thinking and wishes for the House?

How are Singaporean interests served to find out whether Mr Lee Kuan Yew’s really wanted the House to be demolished or not?

Has it been the Government's policy when considering the "public interest aspects of any property with heritage and historical significance", to give weight to the wishes of the property's deceased owner?

On the contrary, my own impression is that the Government would place public interest over the personal wishes of any property owner, let alone the wishes of its deceased owner. ///

https://www.theonlinecitizen.com/2017/06/19/the-flawed-agenda-of-the-oxley-house-ministerial-committee/

patriot said...


It seems that everyone is blaming Ah Loong alone for the Family Feud.
I shall agree that it is purely Family Feud IF IT HAS NO POLITICAL CONNOTATION OR LINK.
UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN LEE KUAN YEW PLANNED AND GROOMED HIS SON FOR THE PREMIERSHIP OF SIN, IT STARTED RIGHT OFF WITH POLITICAL AGENDA. AS SUCH, WHAT IS HAPPENNING NOW, IS ALL THE MAKING OF LEE KUAN YEW.

Think it is not fair to exonerate the Old Man and put all blames on Lee Hsien Loong and or any of his children.

lf it did not start off with the Old Man, why are so many Sinkies calling it Karma or in lay term: retribution.


patriot

Anonymous said...

"The opposition political parties and politicians would also be expected to make their comments and keeping mum is not an option especially for those that have made this a second nature or a policy."

Workers Party MPs are so notoriously silent until PM Lee himself has to urge them to question him and his Cabinet colleagues vigorously in Parliament !

patriot said...


For RESERVISTS to enjoy free rides, THEY MUST BE IN UNIFORMS.
FUCKING NONSENSICAL CONDITION.

THINK NS MEN SO HARD UP FOR THE FREE RIDE?


patriot

Anonymous said...

THINK NS MEN SO HARD UP FOR THE FREE RIDE?
June 19, 2017 8:17 pm

Do you think they see Singaporeans no up?
We want jobs and opportunities.
They think we want subsidies and free rides.
And 3 free meals in a hawker centre, food court or restaurant.

Do you think we should vote out the condescending mother fuckers?

Anonymous said...


The actual No.38 issues are actually not interesting at all.

But the comments from all corners of this pee-sai are getting more and more interesting.

I feel sorry for HIM.

patriot said...


Lee Kuan Yew had given his reason for wanting 38 Oxley Rise to be demolished.
Had there been any convincing ideas to change his decision, he would have it changed if he got persuaded. BUT NO, HE INSISTED THAT IT BE DEMOLISHED. HE WA WISE.
Anyway, IF EVERYONE IS AS RESPECTFUL TO HIM AS WHENCE HE WAS ALIVE, 38 OXLEY RISE SHOULD BE DEMOLISHED AS PER HIS(LKY) WISH.
THAT'S RESPECT FOR THE MAN.

Did not expect the Absence of Veritas to make him a completely different from the Veritas that we knew him here before.
What makes him a changed person, l do not know, but he change colour like chameleon for whatever reason.
He is a different man.


patriot

Anonymous said...

@ Probable IMH Escaped Patient @ June 19, 2017 6:56 pm

You talk like a mad person who has lost all her senses except her extreme greed for more and more power. Reminds me of Cixi of China in the bad old days.

patriot said...


lf Matilah Singapura is still
a Sinkie,
I do wish to have his take on this Family Saga.

Will be very obliged to hear from him.


patriot

Anonymous said...

After 99 years, how much is 38 Oxley worth?
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1945: 22-year-old Lee Kuan Yew and his family moved into 38 Oxley Road
2015: 38 Oxley Road is valued at least S$24 million
After 70 years, 38 Oxley Road is worth $24 million.

Our HDB flat.
After 70 years, how much is it worth?
After 99 years, we all know it’s worth nothing.

Dear 70%
Lampar song boh?

SOURCES:
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http://www.straitstimes.com/politics/lee-family-to-donate-value-of-38-oxley-rd-to-eight-charities
http://mothership.sg/2017/06/heres-a-timeline-on-lkys-oxley-road-house-over-its-more-than-100-year-history/
http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/housing/dont-assume-all-old-hdb-flats-will-become-eligible-for-sers-cautions-lawrence-wong

patriot said...


He would have HAS it changed, if he was persuaded.

lf everyone is GENUINELY RESPECTFUL TO HIM AS HE WAS ALIVE...

To amend my comment above.


patriot

patriot said...


My Apology.

He would have HAD it changed.....


patriot

Anonymous said...


Based on the many many "kay-poh" comments, Singapore is really never short of talents!

Why need FTs!?

Keep it up! Singapore boleh!

b said...

Sg should abolish NS because cannot even survive family drama at the top. There is no point in having NS.

Anonymous said...

Possible that Vetitas could have gone to the US to study or underwent rehabilitation somewhere wjen he was absent from MSN ?

Anonymous said...

Possible that Vetitas could have gone to the US to study or underwent rehabilitation somewhere wjen he was absent from MSN ?

Anonymous said...

IT IS ONLY RIGHT, PROPER
AND HONORABLE TO FULFILL
THE FINAL WISH OF ANYONE TO SHOW RESPECT.

LEE KUAN YEW WAS NO ORDINARY MAN. HE WAS THE FIRST PRIME MINISTER OF SINGAPORE AND HIS SON
LEE HSIEN LOONG
IS THE INCUMBENT SINGAPORE PRIME MINISTER.

Anonymous said...

IT IS ONLY RIGHT, PROPER
AND HONORABLE TO FULFILL
THE FINAL WISH OF ANYONE TO SHOW RESPECT.
June 19, 2017 11:44 pm

Do you think the Nazi fascists will love you for wanting to help them fulfill Hitler's last wishes?

Anonymous said...

Don't ever equate our Honourable Late Mr Lee Kuan Yew with a mass murderer such as Hitler! And don't ever equate Singaporeans with the Naxi facists.

The fact that you did shows that you are the unscrupulous and unethical type of person who will resort to anything in order to win.

Don't try this at this blog!

Anonymous said...

/// Don't ever equate our Honourable Late Mr Lee Kuan Yew with a mass murderer such as Hitler! And don't ever equate Singaporeans with the Naxi facists. ///
June 20, 2017 1:40 am

"Don't ever" ... who died and made you God?
Do you think it's fair to say people with a fascist personality typically uses phrases like "Don't ever"?

Anyway, it's you who is making the equation of Lee Kuan Yew and Hitler ... not me.
Read what I wrote earlier, more carefully.

Anonymous said...

Anonymity does not protect you from being traced. Your IP Address leads to your computer or mobile.

Anonymous said...


Where is Veritas ?

Anonymous said...

Anonymity does not protect you from being traced. Your IP Address leads to your computer or mobile.
June 20, 2017 9:24 pm

Are you threatening to abuse Singapore's public resources to further your personal agenda?

Anonymous said...

Karma does not necessarily befall only on the person doing the evil and just only when he is still alive.

Ever hear the saying that 'the sins of the father may also be the cause of suffering of the children, or something to that effect?'

And also the saying of the Chinese 'not to do too much evil as one may cause sufferings to befall on the children'

Of course people who wants to do evil will never believe in Karma, so it is of no use to tell them that.