6/18/2017

Govt debunks a sms message on CPF nomination

SINGAPORE: When Central Provident Fund (CPF) members pass away, their savings will be given to their nominees in cash - and not transferred to their Medisave account as claimed in a message making the rounds on social media.

"There is absolutely no basis to this rumour," stated a post on the Singapore Government website on Saturday (Jun 17), debunking the message circulating on WhatsApp, SMS and social media.

"The truth is, by default, your nominees will receive your CPF savings in cash when you pass away. This is unless you have opted for a different type of CPF nomination," it said.


The above govt statement is to debunk a sms message going around saying that in the event of death, all CPF money would be paid to the nominee's Medisave Account. This sms message is not true or inaccurate. But what Phillip Ang wrote about the ENS scheme is true. Read the govt statement above,

"The truth is, by default, your nominees will receive your CPF savings in cash when you pass away. This is unless you have opted for a different type of CPF nomination," it said."

What is this different type of CPF nomination? The govt statement did not elaborate and stopped there. This different type of CPF nomination is the ENS or Enhanced Nomination Scheme that Phillip Ang was talking about in his post that I quoted in this blog on Saturday.

What Phillip Ang is warning about is this ENS scheme. Make sure this is what you want for your nominee when you opted for this ENS scheme. Your CPF savings will go to your nominee's CPF account and not paid out in cash if you opted for the ENS.

61 comments:

Anonymous said...

What's more can u do when an Gov official ( Shame-mugan) tell a citizen ( Ah Yang) -- sue me if wan if u find there is any conflict of interests or something fishy?
This equates to the similar treatment to ordinary cpf members la..a hero TRoy who spoken before of citizens already sue by Long Ge till run road to another country..oppo people all silenced by Long Ge & unable to form gov..who to blame? KJ already said u got the gov u deserved-) dafty Sinkies..

Pioneering ENERGY said...

The Government debunk is a HALF TRUTH, cunningly worded to pull wool over the eyes and ears of CPF Contributors and DULL THEIR BRAIN. This unethical, immoral and unscrupulous manner of going about countering truthful information in the Public Domain is totally unacceptable and should be condemned by all CPF Contributors and Members in Singapore and elsewhere!

Anonymous said...

As wat LHY said ..it goes to show that the Sinkieland Gov can not be trusted..no matter wat debunk tat the G said ..the goal post keep changing...that why LHY has no confidence in this Gov & wan to migrate but too bad he can't go now as his elder bro gonna fix him & use the G machinery to debunk all his allegations...a waste of public time & resources..

Anonymous said...

"What Phillip Ang is warning about is this ENS scheme.
Make sure this is what you want for your nominee when you opted for this ENS scheme."
redbean
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Are you sure?
Do you think, if even LKY cannot make the final determination about what will happen to his house;
Are you sure you can?

Is the above a fair question?
What do you think?

Anonymous said...

Has Singapore become like a prata flipping cuntry?
Yes means no.
No means maybe.
Maybe means yes.

Do you think there is a very bright future for lawyers over the next 20 years?

Anonymous said...

When Lee Kuan Yew was alive, they knelt down to lick his balls. Now that he is dead, they attacked his children. Despicable!

Anonymous said...

"DPM Teo: Nothing secret about Ministerial Committee
Govt has to consider public interest of 38 Oxley Road
DPM Teo: Due process needed to consider various options"

The statements could be politically motivated."


"Shanmugam: Ridiculous to suggest conflict of interest"

It is ridiculous to suggest confict of interest because there is ni need to make any such suggestion. The fact is very clear. It is a DIRECT CONFLICT OF INTEREST. Period.

'DPM Tharman says terror threat at its highest level"

This a an over-used old trick pull out of the brains that do not have any more new ideas. The REAL Terror Threat is the All-Powerful Hands that work surreptitiously unseen behind the scene under the guise of "National Interest" but actually the interest of a few Rogue Politicians bent on weilding continuous power in order to milk the System for personal gains.

Anonymous said...

What Phillip Ang is warning about is this ENS scheme.
RB

Ya lar, but ENS scheme is not the default scheme what. The default scheme is paid in cash.

So when Sinkies purposely choose the ENS scheme which is paid into CPF and their nominees may have to wait long long to get it, they are choosing it with their eyes wide open. That is fair, tio bo?

Just like 70% purposely voted for PAP with their eyes wide open. No?

Anonymous said...

Can you imagine the likes of junior nobodies like Grace Fu and Lawrence Wong in the committee overriding the wishes of Singapore's world-known revered legend Lee Kuan Yew ?

Anonymous said...

Just like 70% purposely voted for PAP with their eyes wide open.
10:43 am

Tiok. And of course 70% know the PAP under Hsien Loong is not that good anymore, or at least not as good as before, unlike in the old days when even RB supported PAP by helping out in their Meet the People Session.(MPS)

But 70% still voted for PAP despite knowing PAP is not that good now. So they are voting for PAP with their eyes wide open because they can clearly see that voting for keh keh (fake) opposition is even worse.

Anonymous said...

"To get a clearer sense of Mr Lee’s thinking on the house, the ministerial committee wrote to all the siblings to ask them for their views. "
- Teo Chee Hean

http://mothership.sg/2017/06/dpm-teo-chee-hean-in-the-know-about-lkys-will-says-he-set-up-ministerial-committee/
++++++++++++++++++++++++

Interview.
Lee Kuan Yew tells us what he wants to do with Oxley House in his own words.

"I’ve told the Cabinet, when I’m dead, demolish it."
- Lee Kuan Yew

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoA2M_CWC28

http://mothership.sg/2017/06/lee-kuan-yews-stance-on-the-demolition-of-his-oxley-road-home-is-well-publicised-and-documented/

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Do we still need to mental masturbate over what we need to do with 38 Oxley Road?

Anonymous said...

LKY’s Last Will statement found all over National Museum of S’pore exhibition
June 16, 2017

You aren't seeing double, it's printed at least four times throughout the exhibition.
(the clause that says what he wants to do with 38 Oxley Road after he dies)

http://mothership.sg/2017/06/lkys-last-will-statement-found-all-over-national-museum-of-spore-exhibition/

Anonymous said...

Can you imagine the likes of junior nobodies like Grace Fu and Lawrence Wong in the committee overriding the wishes of Singapore's world-known revered legend Lee Kuan Yew ?
10:43 am

Can you imagine the likes of junior nobodies like Grace Fu and Lawrence Wong not interested in million dollar salaries?

That's why Hsien Loong, being smart, knows junior nobodies like Grace Fu and Lawrence Wong very well and so decided to form a ministerial committee for obvious reasons.

Just as Hsien Loong knows majority Sinkies, especially new Sinkies, very well and that's why citizenship was "given out like toilet paper" which some had commented. Of course literally speaking, this is a bit of exaggeration lah.

Anonymous said...

"I’ve told the Cabinet, when I’m dead, demolish it."
- Lee Kuan Yew

Li Shengwu (Hsien Yang's son) said: "We are going to learn whether (as I hope) the ruling party is still full of men and women of quality and strong character, or whether "it is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!"

Anonymous said...

@ June 18, 2017 10:52 am

/// Today we are going to learn a lot about the country of my birth.
We are going to learn whether (as I hope) the ruling party is still full of men and women of quality and strong character, or whether “it is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!” ///
- Li Shengwu

http://mothership.sg/2017/06/li-shengwu-declares-he-will-never-go-into-politics-the-country-must-be-bigger-than-one-family/
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What do you think?

Anonymous said...

..."it is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!"
11:01 am

Hahahaha. This one no need Li Shengwu to tell Sinkies lah. Sinkies already know, unless they are really daft until bo yok kiu. (no medicine cure)

What Sinkies do not know is how to form a strong united opposition which is ready to be govt.

Or maybe they know but don't know how to make it happen. And I think Hsien Loong is well aware that Sinkies don't know how to make it happen and he is quite happy about this.

Anonymous said...

/// This does not explain why the committee was set up less than one month, what is the term of reference?

Since 38 Oxley Road is a private property, is it a practice to set up a committee for every private property?

According to the Will there is only one option, and one option only, why is there a need for the committee to decide. Should it be the rightful owner of the property to decide what to do with it?

This committee was considered “secret” because this committee was only known to the owner recently. There was no prior announcement!!!

Is this committee legal?
Is it not infringing other’s privacy?
How much this committee would cost to the tax payers? ///

Comment from "NotMyProblem" @ June 17, 2017 at 10:31 pm

http://www.tremeritus.com/2017/06/17/statement-by-dpm-teo-chee-hean-on-ministerial-committee/

Anonymous said...

Very very simple!

Never sign anything that you don't understand especially government's documents.

Be very careful!

This is a `eat people' society!

Anonymous said...

@ June 18, 2017 11:12 am

Do you think it would be a matter of public interest to request for:

a) e-mails and memo leading to the formation of the Ministerial Committee?
b) when was this Ministerial Committee officially formed?
c) what are the Terms of Reference?
d) Did Mr Teo exercise his individual authority to form this Ministerial Committee or were there checks and balances before it was allowed to go ahead?

agongkia said...

So simple yet daft want to make it confusing .
Who is forcing one to go for different type of nomination.
If one go for different type of nomination then he just got to take the risk .

Anonymous said...

d) Did Mr Teo exercise his individual authority to form this Ministerial Committee or were there checks and balances before it was allowed to go ahead?
11:20 am

Please lah, how can a Ministerial Committee be formed without Hsien Loong being aware of it and approving it?

checks and balances??? it's ownself check ownself, and maybe also ownself shoot ownself lah. Hahahahaha.

Virgo49 said...

Hi Anon 10.52

LKY said when I am gone demolish it!!

So simple!!

Why?? Because I don't want people to discover any DARK SECRETS that may undone what I had done what's seemed to be done for the good of Singapore.

Don't make me rise from my grave!!

You Imbeciles STOP quarreling and demolish the House.

Everything buried with me.

Anonymous said...

What I want to know is how easy it is for someone to mistakenly choose the "Enhanced" scheme?
Is it just a little pen mark, a tick?

An Pek, you want the "enhanced" one?
Enhanced? Better?
Ok lah. Better is good.

hahaha

Anonymous said...

LKY did his job too well, when he put in place state organs to take down his opponents, he also remove our voice and brain and backbone.

So, when he needed our collective public support to apply pressure on his DS not to put him on life-support, we didn't say anything. So the poor man suffered a painful death.

Now, his children made public the way their bro misused his power, in the hope that the public would stand up and demand accountability from their PM, again the public is silent, preferring to put our heads in the sand and dismissed it as a "family feud".

So yes, in both instances, singaporeans are the weakest link. But this is exactly what lky had wanted us to be.

LeeShengWu shouldn't be too surprised or disappointed that there is no good man left. His grandpa started it. Now his uncle just continued.

Anonymous said...

When the old fart passed away, Ah Long was so surprised that he saw so many Sinkies go kowtow to his dad..gosh he must b thinking that since many people pay their respect to old fart Long Ge concluded that the people dun wan it demolished mah..best thing is the 2015 GE due to publicity of old fart passing Ah Long had secured a 70% dafts Sinkies mandate, he concluded that the people dun wan the old house be demolished as he got the majority people mandate...so whatever Yang's old fart 7th will not "pah Kay" ( not recognized) as old fart could be signed by persuasion of Yang's wife not at presence of original lawyer ( Kwa gal), in so doing Ah Long form a Minionster Con-midee to silence & even wanna lock up Ah Yang ( if he can't prove all his allegations against his elder bro)...wat a Despicable Long is ( should u trust his leedershit...70% dafts Sinkies trusted Long Leh...)...

Anonymous said...

....again the public is silent, preferring to put our heads in the sand and dismissed it as a "family feud". So yes, in both instances, singaporeans are the weakest link.
12:34 pm

Please lah, even if singaporeans want to be strong, u think they can win?

Just look at Chee Soon Juan. Now after more than 20 years battling the PAP and kena whacked like shit, he is still standing. So isn't he strong? But did he win?

Even Lee Hsien Yang and his sister also finally gave up by deciding to leave Singapore, so what more lesser Sinkie mortals?

Anonymous said...

When the old fart passed away, Ah Long was so surprised that he saw so many Sinkies go kowtow to his dad..gosh he must b thinking that since many people pay their respect to old fart Long Ge concluded that the people dun wan it demolished mah..best thing is the 2015 GE due to publicity of old fart passing Ah Long had secured a 70% dafts Sinkies mandate,...
12:45 pm

Tiok lah.

And I think that's the reason why Long Ge even dare to piss off Long Ti and Long mei so much until they whacked him back lagi jialat, which is even worse than terrorist attack.

Anonymous said...

Why call it "Enhanced" ?
Why not call it the "Cash Forever Stuck Scheme" ??

Anonymous said...

@ June 18, 2017 12:34 pm

"LKY did his job too well, when he put in place state organs to take down his opponents, he also remove our voice and brain and backbone."

Do you think it's true?
- Poetic justice
- Live by the sword, die by the sword

Anonymous said...

Why call it "Enhanced" ?
12:58 pm

Because CPF pay more interest, much more than bank FD rate, if you leave your money in CPF.

So if you don't need the money, better to leave it in CPF to earn higher interest.

In fact and since I am also eligible to do so, I even put back more cash into CPF allowed under the "Cash refund for CPF used for property".

Anonymous said...

Will future historians call it the Oxley Memorial?
--------------------------------------------
"First they came for the Socialist,
and I did not speak out, because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists,
and I did not speak out, because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I did not speak out, because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me,
and there was no one left to speak for me."

Pastor Martin Niemoller

http://www.projetaladin.org/holocaust/en/poetry-corner/martin-niemoller.html

Anonymous said...

@ June 18, 2017 12:34 pm

Are you saying:
"Own self fix own children after death?"

Anonymous said...

If Long Ge minion committee decided not to honor the old fart Last Will, this will have serious implications. No one Gov Bodies or not a single cuntries in this world gonna honor Ah Long and his white party when he goes into negotiations ( be it trade agreements or gov agreements watever),these countries gov bodies will think thrice before signing any agreements with the PAPies gov , cause they jolly well know the true colors if these Roti-Prata PaAPies people...Sinkieland reputation will go down the drain...

Virgo49 said...

Why LKY wanted to demolish the House after his Death??

He knows for himself the reasons.

He might had consulted the Chief Monk. Hoong Choon and many others prominent ones overseas.

They might have told him.To perpetuate his family honours and future powers, the House have to be demolished in order to start a new cycle of power.

But his son wants it to remain to remind Singaporeans of his Father's legacy and be smitten with gratitude for him and he and his descendants be in power forever.

Anonymous said...


If leave Singapore for good can collect ALL their cpf lah!

And then come back as FTs? Not bad leh!

Huat Ah! Huat Ah! Huat Ah!

Anonymous said...


sorry, my england grammar no good....share share some chinese here.....

风水轮流转! 风水轮流转! 花无百日红! 花无百日红!

Anonymous said...

"Singaporeans can urge them to settle their dispute amicably in private or through closed–door arbitration." ---gct

Not free lah.
Too busy collecting card boxes for money (I mean exercise) to urge/teach Millionaires to follow simple English instructions:
"I’ve told the Cabinet, when I’m dead, demolish it."

PS:
If you pay me money, I will certainly urge the Millionaires to settle amicably.

If not, settle it amicably the old fashioned way - General Elections.

Anonymous said...

Do you think the only way to guarantee that LKY's house is demolished is for LHY & LWL to form the next government?

Anonymous said...

//But his son wants it to remain to remind Singaporeans of his Father's legacy and be smitten with gratitude for him and he and his descendants be in power forever.//

Tiok.
But Long's failure to honor his father's Will would face repercussions in the future. Example when a new power take over in the future, probably a new citizen ( of China origin or Malaysia origin or Indon origin) will demolish it as they might feel threatened by 'his presence', but tat will be in xxxx years time when all local Sinkies r overrun...

Anonymous said...

If we keep flipping prata like this;
do you think any country will still sign treaty with Singapore?

Anonymous said...

Judging from the silence of the Workers' Party
if there is a 3 cornered fight in the next General elections
my vote will not be going to PAP or WP.

I take my hats off to CSJ and the SDP.
The voice of all Singaporeans

Anonymous said...

Hi anonymous 3.37pm..........

WP was also the `voice' of all Singaporeans during last GE rallies?

Now?

Anonymous said...

WP should change their name to "Withered Pricks" !

Anonymous said...

WP was also the `voice' of all Singaporeans during last GE rallies?
Now?
June 18, 2017 4:30 pm

I don't know.
I can't tell the difference between the silence of the white MPs and the blue MPs.

We spend so much taxpayers' money to buy so little backbone.

Anonymous said...

@anon 3.19pm

Answer: Only Prata men will only do bzness or sign any agreements with Prata Action Party la...for again any flipping down the road by either party gonna be relationship sour or sue in court or even war ( of words) la...

Anonymous said...

The bad flip-flop trait of PAP is apparent even in the international geopolitical arena.

A Global Times editorial recently noted Singapore's flip-flop stance toward China hard to change. It warned Singapore may not abandon its flip-flop diplomacy and China needs to be prepared for this.



Anonymous said...

The Silver Silence of the Wotkers' Party is Golden. This matter of Lee Kuam Yew's Will to his children is EXCEEDINGLY CLEAR! It is firstly a PRIVATE MATTER. Secondly, he has stated in NO UNCERTAIN TERMS (even to the extent of informing the Cabinet( that his house be demolished after hus death and that his daughter Lee Wei Ling can stay there until she dies or move out. But certainly his house MUST BE DEMOLISHED!

If Lee Hsien Loong intends to DISHONOR HIS FATHER'S WILL by turning it into a POLITICAL ISSUE by evoking the Cabinet and constituting a Ministerial Committee to deal with the matter, WP should simply stand aside and watch the Free Entertainment.

Anonymous said...

Hsien Yang and Wei Ling want people to speak up for them as they post this on their facebook :


First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Martin Niemoller (1892-1984)

An Old Pioneer Citizen said...

Lee Hsien Loong, as the eldest son of Lee Kuan Yew as well as the PM of Singapore, a political position painstakingly crafted and gtoomed by his own father for many long years, and given to him on a golden plate, should gratefully (not bitterly) and sincerely (not dubiously) and undoubtedly (not begrudgingly) accept the WILL OF LEE KUAN YEW and allow the Estate Administrators to execute his (LKY) Will fully without even a single indication of causing obstruction for it to be done.

An Old Pioneer Citizen.

Anonymous said...

When daft people hear the word 'enhanced' they go for it, like upgrading. So simple for the trap to work.

However, it is not of any use to fret over your CPF when you kick the bucket. This is a private nestegg which you can nominate your next of kin to get your money upon your death, in cash.

But the problem is, like the will of LKY, they can also say your CPF is of public interest, and if the government needs money desperately, they can just set your nomination aside by setting up a secret ministerial committee to see how they can get their hands on your money, lock stock and barrel, instead of just keeping it and letting you have it in drips.

By then what can small potatoes like you and me do if LHY and LWL can't do?

Anonymous said...

Actually Hsien Yang and Wei Ling in quoting Martin Niemoller are lamenting about themselves. They did not speak up when the PAP brought in India nationals under CECA to cannibalize our jobs; they did not speak up when the PAP raise the water price for Sinkies by a whopping 30%, etc . . . So now they want Sinkies to speak up for them when they're facing troubles?

Anonymous said...

By then what can small potatoes like you and me do if LHY and LWL can't do?
June 18, 2017 7:28 pm

Vote Opposition lor.
I cannot do anything else.
But this, I can do.

Anonymous said...

Why you all scold LHL?
Do you think LHL is using LKY's organs of state to ignore LKY's wishes?
Do you think LKY is being fucked by his own instruments?

Do you think LKY's organs of state is being used to chase LHY and LWL away from Singapore?

Is it a case of poetic justice?
Is it Own self fuck own self?
Is it Live by the sword, die by the same sword?

Do you think LKY is finally seeing karma justice?

Anonymous said...

It rains the whole day on this Father's Day!

Some said our good friend is crying!

I sincerely feel sorry for him.

Sad.

Anonymous said...

Are you saying LKY's organs of state is being used to tear his family apart?
So that some parts of his family tree may never return back to Singapore?

报应

Heaven really got eyes.

Anonymous said...

Karma works in mysterious ways!

If organs of state are being used against LHY and LWL, that is obviously not what the old man intended.

But he created this 'monster of a organ of state' which he meant to be used against his opponents, and this is Karma if it backfired by targeting his own children.

Who is to blame?

Anonymous said...

Blame the WP lor! It works all the time and every time.

Anonymous said...

@ Old Pioneer Citizen 6:54 pm

Sori to say tat Ah Long is still not very CONVINCED by the final 7th Will of his father. Heeven doubted that his father was persuaded or coaxed or forced to signed the last will drafted by Yang's wife & not the usual lawyer ( A Kwa). Ah Long has every reason to doubt this last Will. Ah Long is also in a surprised mode that even his father also dun trust him & got to entrust the last Will to Yang & Ling, Long must be so pissed off..now that his father has passed away 2years, it is Long's duty to keep the house in order & to make sure that his younger bro & sister dun create anymore trouble ever again. So a minister committee was set up to ensure that the Will r properly looked into, maybe autopsy the Will to see if its forged or interrogate the Y & L & lawyers to see any discrepancy by Justice Shame-mugan & Justice Tio & Juctice Lau-Lan & Justice Dis -GraceFu..the final verdict will be " the house will not be demolished" & King Lee-ar lives on to rule , or it could be " the house will be demolished" in accordance to the last Will & case closed...waste of people time & resources...

Anonymous said...

LKY has to depend on his hand picked team of Millionaire Aristocrats in parliament to protect LHY and LWL. Good luck with that.

LKY see us ordinary Singaporeans no up.
No potential.
Low class, no good genes.
So don't expect us to stand up for LHY and LWL hor.

Anonymous said...

@Anon 8.52pm

Hv popcorn & watch the FamiLee Disputes unfold better than watching the MediaCock drama series...1st series The Rise of FamiLee Dynasty, 2nd series FamiLee Empire Relations With the World, 3rd Series The Son of FamiLee Controls, 4th Series FamiLee Founder Passing, 5th Series The Unhappiness of FamiLee, 6th Series The FamiLee Disputes & 7th Series The Downfall of FamiLee ....

Lose-Lose Situation For Both Sides said...

Whether LHL wins or LHY & LWL win, it does nor matter to Singaporeans but it definitely will damage the Legacy of LKY, which I think has already begun.

Supporters of LKY as well as Haters of LKY, irrespective of which side, would definitely have a Field Day of Intrigue, Shock and Surprise.

Happy Father's Day to the Late Mr Lee Kuan Yew.