6/16/2017

Dark clouds over Red Dot

The open letter by Hsien Yang and Wei Ling took all Singaporeans by surprise. The allegations were serious and Hsien Loong would probably in a state of shock. Could he have seen this coming? Not likely as he is on holiday mood.  He would not have gone on vacation if he has seen this coming.

What were the allegations?

1.     Abuse of power

2.     Fear of personal safety from state organs

3.     No confidence in Hsien Loong’s leadership

4.     Disagreement between Hsien Loong and LKY over the demolition of 38 Oxley Road house

Details of the allegations are in the open letter by Wei Ling and Hsien Yang at http://statestimesreview.com/2017/06/14/original-letter-what-has-happened-to-lee-kuan-yews-values/

The allegations are very serious indeed and Hsien Loong would be compelled to make a defence to clarify the matters raised or he would not look good. His integrity is being questioned. In other cases that were slightly similar in nature when Hsien Loong’s integrity was questioned, a legal letter on defamation would be delivered to the alleger in double quick time.

Would Hsien Loong follow up like before after returning from his holiday? Many things, negative things, are now on the table. Not disputing and clearing them would put Hsien Loong in a very bad light and Singapore’s reputation too would be affected. He has replied with a 41 points argument today.

How would this family saga continue from here? And the matters are not only just about a family feud, many of the allegations concern Singapore as a free and democratic state, transparent and rule by law. There is now a dark cloud overhanging the bright little Red Dot and the whole world is watching, not just Singaporeans, in silence. The whole episode would describe what Singapore is all  about, warts and all, baring all, for all to see. This will be the ultimate hard truth about Singapore that no one would be able to read under normal circumstances. The shocking revelation and truth that all Singaporeans and the whole world would finally see and read about are surfacing.

Who is going to sue who? Hsien Loong definitely has ample grounds to sue Wei Ling and Hsien Yang if the allegations were untrue. Do Wei Ling and Hsien Yang have any grounds to sue Hsien Loong before being sued? And whichever happens, more beans will be spilt for sure. This is Battle Royale uniquely Singapore that no one could expect coming from the near perfect family.

66 comments:

Heaven Has No Eyes Nor Heart said...

The Ruthless Lee Dynastic Power Addicted Aristocracy, for all intent and purposes, is bent on the prolongation of its Dynastic Power. And for that it does not really care for the local Singaporeans who have all this while supported the PAP.

The fact that foreigners of all sorts have been used to replace, replete and replenish the local Singaporeans in all areas and levels, without even bothering to give a damn to the ir future livelihood and existence, shows that this Dynastic Aristocracy's ruthlessness is very similar to the ruthlessness of Japanese Imperial. Army, the British Empire and several Dynastic Rulers of Ancient China.

Anonymous said...

The sad thing is the impression that the old man did not know what he signed and could be easily conned or manipulated. This is no ordinary old man you know.

Anonymous said...

8:45am, the Japanese Empire and the British Empire put their own people in charge of the countries their conquered. They glorified and honoured their own people.

Anonymous said...

The Lee saga regarding the Last Will of the late LKY is making news around the world. I have always been under the impression that we Asians, especially the Chinese, do not like the hang out our dirty washings for all to see. We consider it shameful and degrading. Well, in this day and age, when it comes down to money, assets and power, anything goes.

Anonymous said...

LHY & LWL will be locked up when they couldn't prove a thing on LHL integrity & abuse of power. This expose the dark side of the Royal ALee-to-crazy for the whole world to see. This saga has been there for a long time, maybe since childhood but both parents failed to detect it as both r working parents. It showed a failed upbringing by the old fart & his wife. This r no ordinary familee but it showed that no matter u r rich or powerful the basic fundamental of human values must not be forgotten & in these matter the old fart & his wife failed to see it coming..

Heaven Has No Eyes Nor Heart said...

@ June 16, 2017 8:52 am

We are talking about their rule over the locals within the context of Singapore.

Anonymous said...

With this episode, as it relates to LKY, will the votes for PAP affected?

From 70% to 80% or from 70% to 60%?

Anyway it is very very sad that such a family private matters is now in the OPEN!

I suppose this is life! MEANINGLESS!

Very very sad!

patriot said...


解铃还需系铃人。
Meaning to solve the Problem or Issue, it requires the One who created it(Problem/lssue) to untangle and solves them.

Unfortunately, the Culprit has gone for good. So, the Problem he created gonna haunts his successors for generations.
Sinkie's prayers for Karma is now being answered.

Maybe 上得山多终遇虎 is an appropriate term to use in this saga.

Hope all ends up well for Sinkies.


patriot

Anonymous said...

This also tell something about the bad Leedership under the current PeeAyam. It shows why so many countries r avoiding the red dot after the passing of the old fart. Wherever or whenever that PeeAyam goes , leaders around the world gonna tell him to take care of his own familee first before telling others what to do...

Anonymous said...


家家有本难念的经!

风水轮流转!

人算不如天算!

拿得起 放得下!

知足常乐!

善恶到头终有报!

善恶到头终有报!

Anonymous said...

Why are the Workers' Party MPs so quiet, dare not make a noise ???

Anonymous said...

No matter how cunning a leader is in manipulating and scheming against his people, Heaven will manipulate and scheme against him in different ways!

Anonymous said...

@anon 9.54am

Ans: Becos they r too happy someboling doing a job for them already la.

Anonymous said...

The Workers' Party is now part and parcel of the PAP. It has been sold to the PAP for a song. It is now just an appendage in the Political History of Singapore.

Anonymous said...

@anon 9.54am

Ans: Becos they're afraid of state organs !

Anonymous said...


Hahaha...........

You don't know Workers' Party meh?

The BEST-est opposition party!

What do you expect? Is like that lah!

So.....angry not angry not!

Hope for the best!

Anonymous said...

If he was buried definitely he would rise. Pain me to see this happen to my country

Anonymous said...

The mysterious hand at work. Unstoppable.

Anonymous said...

This feud has reached a point that the main media also got a big headache, how to censor or spin the way they like it.

Anonymous said...


Is becoming very very difficult for the parties to U-turn!

Only straight ahead!

What do you think will be the ending.........anyone?

Anonymous said...

" We are Natural Aristocrats ". Who arrogantly and unabashly proclaimed this to the world. Or more likely are they natural crooks, rogues and scoundrels as similar to those found in the American establishment. Daft 70% Sinkies better wake up to the antics of the horrible party.
Well they have to face retribution for the wicked deeds of what they have been doing to Singaporeans at large. The Chinese philosophical theory YING - Yang is at work. Want to learn more about Ying-Yang philosophy just go to Google or Wikipedia and type in The Ying-Yang theory of Chinese philosophy. Want to learn even more of Chinese philosophy, go to I - Ching or the Book of Changes. But be prepared, it is very interesting but not very easy to understand.



Anonymous said...

The end of this feud will tell who is the unfilial son.

Anonymous said...

Li Shengwu said : "We are going to learn whether (as I hope) the ruling party is still full of men and women of quality and strong character, or whether "it is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!"

The phrase "it is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!" - is he referring to "yes men" ?

Anonymous said...

Of course he was referring to all the " YES MEN " of the Singapore Parliament.

Anonymous said...

/// I have always been under the impression that we Asians, especially the Chinese, do not like the hang out our dirty washings for all to see. We consider it shameful and degrading. ///
June 16, 2017 8:52 am

And this is why Chinese people are slaves throughout our history.
Time to get rid of this useless piece of Chinese culture.
It's a monstrous relic, responsible for misery to countless millions of Chinese for countless generations.

Is it true?
When we suffer in silence, the bullies win.

Anonymous said...

What will LKY do?

Anonymous said...

When was the last time we had a Ministerial salary review?

Anonymous said...

" When was the last time we had a Ministerial salary review? "

Dunno but I am sure soon.

Should double the Ministerial Salary. Inflation up, milk powder up, electricity up, water up. parking up, ERP more of them and up.

Ministers must be finding it very difficult to survive.

Anonymous said...

I wonder if I can get a job posting to Japan.
Do you think I can learn hara-kiri from the Japanese?
Do you anticipate a demand for hara kiri advisory services in Singapore?

Anonymous said...

Hsien Loong definitely has ample grounds to sue Wei Ling and Hsien Yang if the allegations were untrue.
RB

Doesn't matter whether Hsien Loong sue or not sue,

as long as the Sinkie opposition is not ready to be govt.

Because 70% will still consider Hsien Loong and PAP to be the lesser of 2 evils,

so they will vote for PAP, be it GE 2015 or GE 2020.

If I were Hsien Loong, I knew I had already screwed Sinkies very hard and yet 70% still voted for PAP in GE 2015,

so why would I need to sue my own brother and sister

when I am very confident the opposition will not be ready to be govt and

hence 70% will still vote for me and PAP next election?

Anonymous said...

Looks like Singapore nowadays 'boh cheng hoo' leow.

Everything goes up, up and up. No mercy leh. Hawkers know that water price hike coming so they raise prices before that happens, because some elites warn them against raising prices because of the water price hike. In fact I would not call that a warning. It is more a signal to every hawker to raise prices before July, which is when water will be more expensive. And the price increase is like 15% or more. And hawkers argue that this is less than the increase in water prices to come. They have their reasons. Everyone making money have their reasons.

Therefore, every hawker has already read the signal and increase prices in case some sleeping elites woke up and singled them out for profiteering.

Dark clouds are even darker for you and me. What to do? How to run when you are poor, lowly educated and boh liau (no substance).

Anonymous said...

Meanwhile, in other non-related news.
Coffee shop operators in the HDB heartlands report an island wide surge in sales of kopi.
Mysterious groups of men in dark sunglasses have been seen buying copious rounds of coffee for frightened looking aunties and uncles.

Anonymous said...

FamiLEE saga: From 38 Oxley Road to 1 Parliament Place, not just a family affair
-----------------------
Must read.
This author is a smart Sinkie

http://themiddleground.sg/2017/06/15/familee-saga-38-oxley-drive-1-parliament-place-not-just-family-affair/

Anonymous said...

His ashes is not even returned back tk earth as manure. lt is lying uselessly in a container.
What can he do ?
You believe he will rise up ?
Do not waste your time waiting for him.
He shall not rise, however he shall haunt his successors for many generations. He knew it
before he died which is tbe Reason he did not want to others to be reminded of him cos it will have negat聪明ive effects to his living kins.
Lee Kuan Yew wise up too late thougg he was extremely clever. Too clever in fact.
Heard of 聪明反被聪明误 ?

Anonymous said...

Who would have believed that a family with both parents astute lawyers would end up with children at one another's throat regarding their inheritance? What is the purpose of making a will when alive and ending up with children fighting over what they left behind? Karma ripening?

Just cannot fathom it.

Anonymous said...

PAPies dispatching NSmen SOF assassins to solve problem.

PAPies will continue to rule S'pore for another 100 years.

PE will still go on in September.

BTOs and SERS will still continue.

70% will still vote PAPies .... maybe 80% next GE.

Anonymous said...

One thing we can confirm from Oxleygate is that the so-called opposition Workers’ Party is a very quiet party. Think their vocal cords were permanently damaged by the heat from the APHETC scandals !

Anonymous said...

/// Who would have believed that a family with both parents astute lawyers would end up with children at one another's throat regarding their inheritance? ... Just cannot fathom it. ///
June 16, 2017 1:28 pm

That is why democracy was invented.
The wisdom of a crowd of common men is better than the wisdom of one "talented man".
This is why transparency and open government is important.
This is why checks and balances are important.

One house and the entire country comes to a standstill.
Do you think Singaporeans and Singapore is a joke?

Anonymous said...

Now Singapore is 'see-pay-run' (very messy) and like bo cheng hu!

Brothers, sister, and sisters-in-law pointing fingers in public, Mrt break downs, people throwing bicycle and animals from high rise building, etc etc etc etc.......

What is happening?

Anonymous said...

You see, daft sinkies now believe this is because Worker's Party is again the cause.

It just goes to show how the PAP got 70% of the votes! The daft just gets dafter!

Anonymous said...

Singapore's first family at war, causing national embarrassment

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/singapores-first-family-war-over-big-brother-1626491

Anonymous said...

"Dark clouds over Red Dot"
-----------------

Alamak.
redbean is also another daft Sinkie.
This is called sunshine ... not dark clouds.

Live in darkness for so long.
Don't even know what is sunshine anymore.
I'm afraid 70% votes will become 80% at the next General Elections.

Anonymous said...

Li Shengwu (Lee Hsien Yang's son)

http://mothership.sg/2017/06/li-shengwu-declares-he-will-never-go-into-politics-the-country-must-be-bigger-than-one-family/
---------------------------------

Twelve hours ago I gave the following statement to AFP:
“Not only do I intend never to go into politics, I believe that it would be bad for Singapore if any third-generation Lee went into politics. The country must be bigger than one family.”

"Today we are going to learn a lot about the country of my birth. We are going to learn whether (as I hope) the ruling party is still full of men and women of quality and strong character, or whether “it is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!”

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 228, you are 100% correct.

From 70% to 80% at next GE. Especially after this episode.

No choice. Singapore is like that.

agongkia said...

Who cares?Its just an ordinary family dispute and everyone talk as if they got a share .
I am more concern about my cheerful uncle Virgo here.Hope uncle is fine .


agongkia said...
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patriot said...


Misuse of cleverness
has
its' consequences.
ln layman term, it
is simply knowns as
Karma.


patriot

Anonymous said...

//Anonymous 228, you are 100% correct.

From 70% to 80% at next GE. Especially after this episode.

No choice. Singapore is like that.//

Whether that 38 Ozy Road got demolished or not. Or whether who win or lost in familee feud, no one cares, in the next GE 99.99% chance that the dafts Sinkies still voted for the white lightning party..life goes on but it might get worse with inept Leedership..

Anonymous said...

'No choice. Singapore is like that'

Not so in the early days. Those in their 70's or older had choices. That is why and how the PAP came into power. Now, I agree exercising your vote and my vote and your choice and my choice has been diluted by new citizens and PAP diehards, blinded by greed and overtaken by fear. 70% support for the PAP will be the norm now. An autocracy will be staring at us in the future, if not already here today.

Laws will be tightened, rules will be changed (without you and me knowing or understanding it's significance), citizens will be watched (the moment you step out of your house, there are cameras all over, all on the pretext of security) and opposition will be beatened to the ground and demonised. There is little chance of making your choice matter any more.

Anonymous said...

Try my luck this weekend on this few numbers.....

0038
3800
3838
0380

Hope the numbers are not 'ang-dee' yet!

Huat Ah! Huat Ah! Huat Ah!

Anonymous said...

"Demolish my house after I die."

If you don't understand simple English.
Then stop asking working class Singaporeans to improve our productivity.
This is penny wise, pound foolish.
When the really big gains in productivity can be found elsewhere.

Anonymous said...

I am more concern about my cheerful uncle Virgo here.Hope uncle is fine .
agongkia 2:52 pm

Ya hor. Why Virgo49 not here hah? Normally he sure post one. Now so big news, yet he no picture no sound. What happened?

RB, do u know?

b said...

Private homes sales down down down. Interest rate going up up up. Super rich not coming anymore. China bypass Sg. Qatar in trouble. Sg facing great challenge.

Anonymous said...

Tiok lah agongkia.

The best is just be daft, gong and when erection comes, vote for PAP. Let the extra-un-orderly family quarrel remain in the familee.

See no evil, hear no evil, talk no evil.

Anonymous said...

Anker Virgin in Malacca enjoying his satay, haemee and reading the drama unfolding in sin.
Or he is silenced by the
machine at Genting.

Anonymous said...

The MSM has already begun a discreet campaign of demonising the character of LWL.

Little wonder that both siblings do not trust the MSM and instead gone on social media to argue their points.

And if, they, with their standing, connections and ability are not able to stand up to the so-called organs of state, what can ordinary citizens do in their shoes?

Singaporeans are now seeing exactly what the opposition parties are facing in dealing with the PAP, with the whole organs of state pitted against them.

Anonymous said...

The choice of the photo of Lee Wei Ling in the ST is very discomforting.

Anonymous said...

Where People Think the Economy is Rigged

https://www.statista.com/chart/9403/economy-is-rigged-in-favor-of-the-rich-and-powerful/
+++++++++++++++

94% of Mexicans think the economy is rigged in favour of the rich & powerful (MOST)
.
.
56% of Swedes think the economy is rigged in favour of the rich & powerful (LEAST)

Too bad the survey did not include Singaporeans.
Do you think only 30% of Singaporeans think the economy is rigged in favour of the rich & powerful?

Virgo49 said...


Enjoy the Soul of Shoalin Genting better than the Fight in Sinkieland.

It's all boil down to MONIES, MONIES,Moines.

Here, all MONIES, MONIES and MONIES.

But pleasure monies.

Cheers

Anonymous said...

For what it is worth, I really have no interest in politics .... but I will serve my country when called to do so.
-----------
Potential winner of Singapore's First Prata flipping contest?

Anonymous said...

He ain't heavy.he is my brother.

Anonymous said...

Cancer has taken a heavy toll in the brain of a top Singapore leader, affecting adversely his vital decisions on State ad well as Family Affairs.

I person whi has gone through the trauma of a cancetous patient must never be allowed to hild high office, especially those that rewuire making important decisions that will adversely affect the livelhood of millions of citizens and country men, wimen and children.

The series of weird, rash, irrational, illogical and/or eratic actions, bothering on over-use, abuse and mis-use of powers and state organs for personal convenience, expediency and benefit, in the last few years, is a clear indication that something is seriously wrong with the mental faculty of a cancerous person.

Anonymous said...

Corrected Version:

Cancer has taken a heavy toll in the brain of a top Singapore leader, affecting adversely his vital decisions on State as well as Family Affairs.

A person who has gone through the trauma of a cancerous patient twice must never be allowed to hold high office, especially those that require making important decisions that will adversely affect the livelhood of millions of citizens and country men, women and children.

The series of weird, rash, irrational, illogical and/or eratic actions, bothering on over-use, abuse and mis-use of powers and state organs for political and personal convenience, expediency and benefits, in the last few years, is a clear indication that something is seriously wrong with the mental faculty of a cancerous person at the top level of govenment.

Daft Sinkies are too daft to realise this and too cowardly and lazy to take any definitive concrete actions.

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Anonymous said...

The house is cursed.
Do not meddle with the house.
Be warned.
The curse of the Mummy.

Anonymous said...

When Lee Kuan Yew was alive, who dares to touch his children? Now the tree has fallen, they are attacking his children, starting with LHY and LWL. Brave men indeed.