8/27/2016

Are the appointments of the EP and PM racist in design?

I have noted some discussions in the TRE and some commentators insisting that the design of the election of the PM and the EP was racist in nature, favouring the Chinese community. Is that so? Where did it say so? To some small minds, it is very clear that it is racist, in favour of the Chinese majority.

Let’s look at the appointment of the PM? How does one become a PM here under the PAP? Where is it written that the PM must be a Chinese, in the Constitution or in the PAP manifesto? Come on, there is no such thing. The PAP has its own system of choosing their PM, by the CEC. The PM is elected by the majority of the PAP CEC members.  The PAP does not have a ruling that the election of a PM must be a Chinese. So, what is the fuzz all about?

What about the EP? Where was it stated that the EP must be from the Chinese majority? The EP was elected by the people in a presidential election. Tony Tan was PAP’s chosen candidate for the EP. The PAP can choose anyone from the minorities to be their nominated candidate, like SR Nathan.

But the other three candidates were also Chinese. So, these candidates applied for the position. They submitted their papers, they nominated themselves. There is no law saying a minority candidates cannot nominate themselves for the EP.  But, but the criteria favour the Chinese majority! Who set the criteria? Who agree to the criteria? If stag horns are found on the head of a stag, why blame the stag and accuse the stag of discrimination because a goat only got little horns?

Actually all the talks about changing the rules to ensure a minority candidate is unnecessary. The PAP had done it before by nominating SR Nathan. There is nothing to stop the PAP from nominating Halimah or Tharman as their candidate. The PAP brand will guarantee a win. In the SR Nathan case, no one dared to contest.

Coming back to the wild accusation that the system is discriminatory in favour of the Chinese majority, is it true?  The PAP is now going to redesign the rules and the system to favour a minority candidate. Is the PAP admitting that the rules and system were discriminatory and therefore must be changed?

Is this change progressive or regressive, good for Singapore in the future? Would LKY be turning in his grave that his ideals and concept of meritocracy is going to be dismantled and thrown into the rubbish bin and race will now become a factor in the determination of the EP?  Should our national pledge be torn away, should we rewrite the national pledge and remove the phrase, ‘regardless of race, language and religion’, and put into the constitution that race is a factor in the election of the EP?

I am waiting for the man to jump up from his grave to right the wrong that is being conceived and going to be enshrined in the Constitution. Meritocracy is no longer the core values of this country, race is. Instead of playing down on race and elevating meritocracy, a race neutral concept, this trend is like an about turn on govt policies. When it happens, then the Constitution will become racist.
The first legacy of LKY, meritocracy, is at risk of being dumped.

PS, there is this mischievous commentator in TRE called Harold claiming this,
‘At Independence, the agreement was reached that since it was always going to be more likely than not that the PM of Singapore will be a Chinese, then the President will be from a minority community.

That’s why all the first Presidents were minorities. (And don’t forget that for all the 51 years of our Independence, PMs have ONLY been Chinese.)

It was the PAP government that violated that agreement and convention with the introduction of the EP, much to the delight of racists, as we can see.’

This is a very mischievous and malicious rumour to spread as it would affect the people’s perception of the truth and the credibility of the govt. Let’s see if the govt would let this rumour to continue to float around.

28 comments:

Anonymous said...

Who would dare to overturn LKY's legacy? Meritocracy has served us well. Dishing meritocracy will open a can of worms and there will be no end to it. More affirmative actions? Seow.

Someone is turning in his grave.

Anonymous said...

The PM is elected by the majority of the PAP CEC members.
RB

Tiok. If WP or even SDP had won the election, the PM will be elected by the majority of the WP or SDP CEC members respectively.

So nothing to do with race for the PM post, tio bo? It solely depends on which party majority voters want to vote for to enable the party to win majority seats in the election.

And the problem is WP even lost back and also nearly lost what they had won, and the SDP leader (a Chinese) could not even win against a PAP minority candidate (an Indian) in a by election in a SMC, where majority voters are Chinese some more. So how can their leaders be PM?

Where got racist? If majority voters are racist, How can Chee Soon Juan lost a by election, u tell me lah?

Anonymous said...

PAP having won the election, also have the mandate to change the rules for EP to favour minorities. In fact they also have the mandate to even make Sinkies into 2nd class citizens, and which they did!

Not happy? Then don't vote for PAP lah so PAP when they lost, cannot suka suka do what they want , tio bo?

So blame the 70% for voting PAP. Blame the Sinkies for the opposition (also Sinkies, foreigners not qualified) not being strong and united to be ready to be govt.

Sinkies deserve the govt they voted for.

Anonymous said...

How to turn over from grave when the body is not buried but cremated? U tell me lar

Anonymous said...

How to turn over from grave when the body is not buried but cremated?
10:01 am

Can. Provided PAP lose an election. Can or not, u tell me lah?

Virgo 49 said...


Literally speaking, LKY would not from ashes return to spur these idiots but another living incarnation will do the job for him.

Another, maybe his descendent or sister would be following his ideals and act on his behalf.

The reason they installed President Ishak as the first Head of State is purely on racial harmony. At that time, racial issues very volatile and dangerous plus fragile.

In fact, which nation can you really find in the whole of planet, that in sinkieland the majority Chinese is the most magnanimous.

They do not really discriminate other races, whereas the reciprocal response is not the same.

Here, even we have so many other races in Government services in percentage to the Chinese.

If the majority is discrimating like in Matland, most if not all are their kind in the Government Services.

Yet, they always think we are discriminatory. See so many policies in favour of them.

For example, the quote of HDB BTO flats as reserved for ir them.Today apply, tomorrow selection.

Whereas the majority Chinese got to wait three to four years before they get one.

And yet they always feel that we discrimate against them. Their mentality of caste and some stupid superiority and special rights always cloud their minds.

The Majority Chinese as some bro said prefer to be slaves to anyone as long as they are happy able to make as much monies for themselves and be left alone to their lives.

But little do they know, that by been not interested in the thick of been part of the governing bodies, they gonna not only lose their making monies mentalities but also their rights and freedom and also their lives.

For others may be not so magaminous as them. For some, when they hold on to power, it be forever for their kind.

Let the Mandarin Garden episode be a lession.

Anonymous said...


kpkb n kpkb n kpkb....no use lah.......will only waste your time......

70% already indicated YES/OK n "at-your-own-target-own-time-carry-on"......

follow me.....just sit back and relax.....watch the wayang wayang.......

cheers.......

Anonymous said...

Pap still got 70% support?
The haze is outside. Pap has some garang laws to go after indon business men. What happen to these ministers? Keep quiet that the Indon has broken laws on haze.

Look at the shops all over the island. How many malls have no empty units? Empty units mean employment is zero. Yet there are 2.5 millions foreigners having jobs in the island.
Who are these foreigners? From where? Are they given citizenship?

The answer is to get a minority EP to balance up the pre condition that other jobs in power are occupied by non minority race.

If voters look carefully among the non mAjority race jobs in power, they will realize why out of a sudden EP needed to be legalized as a job MUST be given to a minority race, or a particular minority race.

Voters do not like the race based EP, it is the time to vote against the Pap. The settings is not meritocracy. It is a man made distribution based on background discussion in the dark.

EP was meant to be based on meritocracy. It was to overturn the "rotation by race" basis. Now it is by "fixed race basis".
NO improvement. It is a backward compromise.

The mass immigration has turned this island into a place for bargaining by race.

IT banking finance industries jobs are to be in one race from a sunny land, and supported by another race from thousand islands immigrants. The products are not salable and turn the island s reputation into junk status. Made in singapore products are to be avoided in major markets, even in China.

Fewer tourists bother to land in this land. Chinese are so few. Japanese are hardly seen. The retailers along orchard are doing booming business.

Few citizens want to buy things unless necessary. Yet the fainting politicians are still dreaming about malls, malls, more malls.

No new ideas to re start tourists money, yet malls malls, until fainting.

One very obvious observation is: pap supporters are staying a distance to support the fainting politicians. This is real. They are holding condos as second properties, and are "enjoying: paying the installments." This pattern of life can NEVER change. Good luck for believing the old man farce about his ability to raise property prices.

More enjoyment to pay higher installment will come when Feb raise the Interest rate in November. Fainting politicians will further keeping quiet to watch u mati.
NO more election liao. EP is for a FIXED race. GE is too far away. Jobs are fixed for races and non citizens. Citizens can be drivers, not necessary to need licenses now adays. Rent a car can do liao. But make sure have money to pay rental hor.

Lycurgus80ofsparta said...

I can guess where the PAP are going with this. During the next EP they will send in their candidate as a minority candidate. Hence, in the eyes of the minorities the PAP will be seen as the party that is advocating for their rights. The presidential election does not matter though. What matters is the general election. Thus by appointing a minority candidate in an election that does not matter, they will get the minority vote in the general election that does matter.

The anti establishment on the other hand if it endorse the Chinese candidate will be seen as racist. The best choice would be to have another minority candidate of their own.

Anonymous said...

The following is a prediction by a Singaporean psychopath who escaped from IMH.
- it is a Singapore fairy tale and will never happen.

1. A prominent Malay PAP member will resign from the PAP some time between now and the next PE election date in 2017.
2. This prominent Malay will then contest in the Presidential elections
3. The qualifications to be President will be changed before 2017.
4. Tan Cheng Bock will no longer qualify under the new Presidential election rules

Anonymous said...

IT banking finance industries jobs are to be in one race from a sunny land, and supported by another race from thousand islands immigrants.
11:51 am

Not that PAP really want them but because they are readily and also the best available, and in the numbers required. If PAP don't take them, there may not be any or enough to take for GDP growth.

Too bad, if the best available is not good, because it is still better than nothing as PAP need the numbers which below replacement fertility Sinkies cannot provide.

There are some good ones from a sunny land too, except that they went USA, so not available to Sinkieland. Just look at where the CEOs of Microsoft and Google originate from.

patriot said...


Going by the BE Result whereby an Indian won against a Chinese Candidate, it goes to show that Sinkie Voters are Race Blind even if political parties may not be.
PAP is synonymous with all Sinkies, so whether its' policies are Race Centric or not, it will always be the Choice of Sinkie Voters.

The Same applies to hero or Ruler Worships; Some Sinkies cant make any differences between villian, traitor and the Respectable. They adore the Powerful and Rich and
pay homage to them, regardless of their integrity.

Sinkies are a doggy breed that will forever remain faithful to the Master, no matter what the Master does.
Be it flip flop, prata, u-turn, lapse and negligence, they are never issues to those brought up as slaves.


patriot


Anonymous said...

A poignant tribute to ex-President Ong Teng Cheong

http://singaporerecalcitrant.blogspot.sg/2016/08/a-poignant-tribute-to-ex-president-ong_24.html
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Anonymous said...

"There are some good ones from a sunny land too, except that they went USA, so not available to Sinkieland. Just look at where the CEOs of Microsoft and Google originate from."
12:13 pm

If they had come to Sinkieland, they would not be where they are now, even though they are talented.

Joseph Schooling has to live and trained in the USA to become a Olympic gold medalist. In this own words, it is super hard to live and train in Singapore. I guess, not just in swimming but maybe also in a lot of other areas too. A lot to do with the system and environment which PAP created.

Anonymous said...

12:13pm
GDP in sinkie land is not growth in pockets for the average citizens. When the fainting politicians got 60% increase in pay (reported in NYtimes), there was talked that increasing cleaners salary to $1k was too much from $500 to $700pm. Because there were foreigners available at $400pm to do cleaning.

It is available still, at $400pm. Why cleaners now get $1000pm? Voters must use their heads now, not by looking at the figures so basis like primary school graduates. The GDP if is useful, must ensure growth in the TOTAL MASS, not growth in a few already rich. Otherwise, shops and shopping malls will close with empty units. Though rental still at NY prices.

The real mistake in foreigner policy is NOT based on merits for immigration. It was based on number to fill up the streets. This is similar to EU now. The luck is, immigrants here are NOT from middle east.
The poor standard of immigrants created poor standard products to sell in world market. Totally wipe off "made in singapore" in the competitive market, where singapore canNOT compete in RENTAL even the Pap supply cheap labor.

DO NOT mixed with origin, that Steve JOB was from Syria. JOB s success was his education in US, not from Syria.

Here, people hope education from sunny land and thousand island immigrants can bring in a Steve JOB. The Pap abundant the Spore educated IT. Do you think these politicians are not well trained? I really think so. They want to have Steve Job by taking in from Sunny land and thousand islanders. It is not a joke any more.
The NDP was supposed to have national flag lighted up for citizens to swear. It ended audience swearing to each other. Reason was: software defect.

Was the software provided by sunny landers?
Any buyers bought "made in singapore" software will know the bad consequence. They end up returning the "made in singapore" software to Ubi. That is expected.

DO NOT cheat yourself, voters. The consequence on economic growth is decline, decline, and decline. U dont have children? That is the best. If you have children, u are not concerned? U better get drunk now or faint lah. Otherwise, u will have problems to see your children paying high installments on flats or properties. Pap s immigration policy will kill all of us living in this island. No proper jobs, no products can be good enough. Yet they hope to get Steve Job from junk imported immigrants.

Anonymous said...

After 51 years, if the system and environment cannot even nurture a strong and united opposition ready to be govt, any surprise why it cannot even nurture its people for great achievements in other areas?

Anonymous said...

The NDP was supposed to have national flag lighted up for citizens to swear. It ended audience swearing to each other. Reason was: software defect.
1:07 pm

That may be only the tip of the iceberg. But then if I were Hsien Loong, doesn't matter really, as long as PAP can still win the next election like they did in the last. And why not, when PAP can even win a by election with a minority candidate in a Chinese majority SMC.

By the way, if our neighbour PM Najib's ruling coalition, despite Najib's international and shameful 1MDB scandal, can also win recent by elections, why not PAP, which is angel in comparison, Hsien Loong must be thinking.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

12:13pm
GDP in sinkie land is not growth in pockets for the average citizens. When the fainting politicians got 60% increase in pay (reported in NYtimes), there was talked that increasing cleaners salary to $1k was too much from $500 to $700pm. Because there were foreigners available at $400pm to do cleaning.


There thousands of Singaporeans willing to take the PM's job for half the amount or even lesser and more capable also. And with the heart in the right place.

Anonymous said...

1:36pm
Are you from the Lee family? If not, what is the reason to celebrate for the fainting lee to be pm again?
The man got $32millions on final year of service had had the final conclusion. I would say, the measurement is not how many election pap can win. The measurement is how much had this man had done for voters voted for him.

Najib had done something right and something wrong for his country. But Najib did not bring in several millions of foreigners to grab jobs away from voters to make the latter poorer. Najib has a strong opposition. He is almost sure to lose his job in 2017.

The fainting politicians here will look like the $32millions politician. A far distance away in emotional bond when they go. Left with little to ponder why he go or why he stays.

But the mounting debts created by these fainting politicians make the voters faint this time. Very simple small unit bto 3 room flat can cost around $500000. Very few voters buying those bto flats can afford not to be concerned about constant income. if the export keeps declining every year at 10%, you will find medical expenses go up, conservancy fees go up, car park go up, coe go up, road collection go up, and finally gst go up.

Supporters of pap are not made of gold, where they can melt their pricks to sell for cash. The situation is far from Najib, clear?
Living under Najib, one can go to kampong to live a quiet life, and still vote for Najib.
Living under the fainting politicians, there is NO, NO NO one single place that is cheap to live on island. With the population to be increased to 7 millions and 10 millions, i can see the show will be: some implosion may comes along similar to Little India riots. All may be drunk, and after that, all alcohol will be blame for reason of the implosion, if Pap still exists. There is no permanent dynasty in history, u want o have one here?

Anonymous said...

/// Joseph Schooling has to live and trained in the USA to become a Olympic gold medalist. In this own words, it is super hard to live and train in Singapore. I guess, not just in swimming but maybe also in a lot of other areas too. A lot to do with the system and environment which PAP created. ///
August 27, 2016 1:05 pm

You talk as if PAP owes you and Singaporeans a living.
You talk as if PAP should make life better for Singaporeans.
Don't you think you are daft?

Don't you think PAP will only make life better for PAP?

Anonymous said...

1:56pm
You struck a key point. Selling services is different from selling handphones. Selling iphone and galaxy, we know the differences and prices. Selling a man or woman s time, we cannot identify when and what he or she can really deliver.

A man may want to have millions, 5 times salary of US president to do a governor s job. As long as the triggering institution says ok, this man gets the salary. Whether he can delivery results or not delivering results, not even the approving institution can bargain a cent back.

A fake master degree holder from JB, printed a master from Florida from JB street printer shop, got himself a jobs as HR director started in a luggage manufacturer ecolate or something, in sinkie. He finally earned $12000pm from a electrical retailer loss city or something, before he was charged in court.

Voters can learn this lesson. It is up to the seller to claim how good he was and the buyers or voters to approve. A dumb jobless man of less than sec4 education of molehland, could suddenly become Sinkie land s HR director making $12000pm.

Someone got power and get into a certain party can also to the same thing. No one will bother how much he is taking from the coffer. This is sinkie s system. My opinion is; take more, 10 times to 20 times more than the dragon to claim he can deliver galaxy class number one division service. Sinkie dumb voters will not object. Why take half, looking so inferior to the already no good politicians: cos the economy export is -10 over%, for at least 5 years continuously. This is called good? Ask obama if he approves this is good result for a smaller than London town. Obama had to lead far bigger area and population, his pay is less than a 25% of sinkieland s leeders.
Thats why, i recommend to increase salary by 40 times current level. 40 times not enough, take 41 times, there is no limit lah.

Anonymous said...

Thats why, i recommend to increase salary by 40 times current level. 40 times not enough, take 41 times, there is no limit lah.
August 27, 2016 3:41 pm

in the land of fucking dumb slaves;
- a half baked general is emperor.

Anonymous said...

Anon 5:30pm
Thats why, i recommend to increase salary by 40 times current level. 40 times not enough, take 41 times, there is no limit lah.
August 27, 2016 3:41 pm

in the land of fucking dumb slaves;
- a half baked general is emperor."

The generals will claim galaxy class service. No world class. Breads half baked are eaten by martians in Mars, the generals will tell you. In future, half baked service, breakdowns, long wait time at hospitals, no bed for emergency cases, half baked professionals serving in medical and civil services, all are services deserving 41 times salaries of the present dragon. haha.

One emergency case at hospital, waited for more than 5 hours, to be admitted, but sorry, no beds available, so sent home. This kind of hospital service is not galaxy class?

Anonymous said...

Mugabe Orders Arrest Of "Rats We Call Athletes" After Zimbabwe Wins No Olympic Medals

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-26/mugabe-orders-arrest-rats-we-call-athletes-after-zimbabwe-wins-no-olympic-medals

When (or if) any of these Zimbabwean athletes get out of jail, maybe it's time to emigrate to Singapore?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-09/some-olympic-athletes-are-chasing-huge-gold-medal-bonuses

Anonymous said...

Japanese Government Squanders Pension Funds On Failed Stocks As Losses Reach $130 Billion In Past Year

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-26/gpif-squanders-assets-failed-japanese-stocks-losses-reach-130bn-past-4-quarters

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I wonder how well Temasek and GIC is performing?
If only our President can tell us.

Anonymous said...

Bolivian Minister Kidnapped, "Savagely Beaten To Death" By Striking Mineworkers

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-08-26/bolivian-minister-kidnapped-savagely-beaten-death-striking-mineworkers
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Do you think Bolivian Ministers deserve a million dollar salary because their work is so dangerous?

Anonymous said...

For good or for bad, main stream sinkies know much more about Pokemon Go and spend much more time, energy and resources on it?

Pokemon Go captured their imagination and interest?

Pokemon Go is unlike a half dead cock roach wriggling beside a rubbish chute, totally meaningless and sinkies cannot careless?

Before long, the cock roach is dead, eaten up by some hungry pigeons or crows and the life (walking past it where it once has an existence) around it are totally oblivious to anything that has happened?

Most Sinkies are fixated on matters that drive their imagination, matters that they relate to, matters that mean sthg to their lives, like Pokemon Go?

Pokemon Go makes sense to them?

Groups of frens play together, and seemingly gives them value?

Most if not all sinkies are not interested to look at meaningless things, such as a half dead cock roach wriggling beside a rubbish chute, and soon ceased to exist even in its purposeless existence?

Most if not all sinkies are only interested things of value and like Pokemon Go goes out to seek it, be it somewhere far away that they have to embark on?

Places where there are no pokemon stores, lures, etc are fast emptied and deserted?

Most if not all sinkies go where the world is the future, definitely not where the half dead wriggling cock roach is?

The phenomenon of how sinkies and the world at large catch on to pokemon go is worth observing and chronicling, not many other meaningless and bor liao events, like a dying cock roach?

They don't matt and will not be?

The world and history won't bother their (ever) existence (even as a nuisance)?

Welcome to the new world of Pokemon Go?

Anonymous said...

Redbean, reading your article above reminds me of the speech Brutus gave after the assassination of Caesar.