6/30/2016

South China Sea turning into another Indonesian wayang kulit

The South China Sea islands have been claimed by China for centuries and have never been an issue with the new countries in Asean for three main reasons. Historically, they were claimed by China and there were no Asean countries to talk about or to contest them. The new countries only came into existence after the end of WW2. They were non countries before that. And thirdly, the Americans came into the picture to agitate and support the new countries to claim the islands longed claimed by China.

What is the issue? It is not China claiming any part of the territory or sea belong to the new countries. It is the new countries wanting to claim islands belonging to China. But the western media gave it a wicked twist, that it was China claiming islands belonging to the new countries.

And the Philippines, with the support of the Americans and engineering a silly international court to hear a case that they have no jurisdiction to hear, put up a claim to this court without the consent of China as the other party for arbitration. It is a cooked deal from the start when an arbitration needs to have the consent of both parties but being heard in a farcical court with only one party presenting its case and the other party not present.  What a sham!

Many countries have border issues created during the era of imperialism and colonialism but are peacefully talking and negotiating the difference. Here we have the western media hyping up such border disputes and with the Americans agitating and provoking one or two spurious claimants to push the barrier to the verge of a military conflict and blaming China for it. There was no issue but made an issue by the American and western media.

Now another article by Reuter in the Today paper on 29 Jun framed the posturing by the Indonesian into another wayang kulit. It suggested that Indonesia was facing claims by China, threats by China, confrontation in the sea, clashes etc etc, all very serious stuff and Indonesia is bolstering up its defence and increasing its defence budget to protect its territorial waters.

What is the truth? Indonesia under attack by China?

Indonesian navy in clashes with Chinese navy? Indonesian confronting Chinese navy, in face off? China claiming Indonesian territories, claiming Natuna Islands? Far from it.

The whole farce was kicked up with Indonesian Navy chasing Chinese fishing boats, arresting Chinese fishermen and firing at Chinese fishing boats in disputed territories.  It was Indonesian Navy threatening and harassing Chinese fishing boats. Chinese Coast Guard Vessels did not confront or challenge the Indonesian Navy. If they did, they would have sunk the tiny Indonesian frigates. The Chinese Coast Guard vessels are much bigger and much well equipped to take on the Indonesian frigates.

Now who is threatening who?  Everything was hyped by the Indonesians with their Navy doing all the confronting and chasing against fishing boats! Yes, unarmed Chinese fishing boats that ran when confronted by the armed Indonesian frigates.  Whose is being feared and who is the bully and gangster?  Indonesian Navy being threatened by Chinese fishing boats or behaving like gangsters and pirates harassing Chinese fishing boats?

What is the truth? And the Indonesian wayang kulit went further to state that the Indonesian President had to make a visit to the Natuna Islands to make sure they are still there. They need to reinforce the islands with more military hardware!

Is China claiming the Natunas? If China would to do so, imagine what the Americans and the western media would say and how Asean would react? When Vietnam was threatening to run all over Asean, they were shivering in their pants and it was China that came in to stop Vietnam from running all over Asean. Today they are taunting China as if China is hapless against these little street urchins, and crying wolf.

What is the truth? Who is the aggressor, who is the bully, who is the gangster? The new Asean countries have been grabbing Chinese islands and accusing China of being the aggressor with the connivance of the Americans and western media.

Can you beat that?

24 comments:

Ⓜatilah $ingapura⚠️ said...

I think Uncle Sam is coaxing and encouraging SE Asian cuntries to "stand up for themselves" against "evil China".

Let's face it. Most of our governments here love the taste of Uncle Sammy's big calibre cock in their mouths.

Anonymous said...

Vietnam tried to be funny with China and got clobbered every time for thinking too highly of themselves, that they could defeat Uncle Sam. Now they know their position and no more theatrics.

The silly ones that have yet to be whacked by China are prancing around thinking that they could whack China as they like.

Hermit said...

China is the new America expanding its shores and might.

Anonymous said...

China does not claim any land or island belonging to other natives.

Anonymous said...

"China does not claim any land or island belonging to other natives."

Tibet. Then we have Taiwan's aboriginals who got displaced. Right. China is always right to pro-China supporters.

Anonymous said...

Are you a chap cheng, a white man, or a black man, or a banana?
Your comments said it all.

Anonymous said...

This is turning into a street brawl. Anyone who does not agree with pro-China supporters here is chap cheng or banana. Or maybe white or black. It is all about "us and them". Wow. China is truly becoming the new America!

Anonymous said...

What the pro China supporters here do not understand is this.
To the PRC Chinese.
Every non PRC Chinese is a banana

The Hongkies are finding this out the hard way.
The PRC Chinese are treating them like bananas.

Learn Putog Hua.
Forget about Cantonese and Traditional Chinese writing.

Anonymous said...

This is how democratic people debate emotional issues like Brexit:
Nigel Farage versus James O'Brienon LBC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pyYoL9ngtE
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Sad to say;
Chinese emperors and slaves have a long history of jailing, suing or killing each other.
No progress after 2,000 years or 50 years ... depending which Chinese country you are looking at.

Anonymous said...

This goes back to the slave mentality and culture of Chinese people.
Pro China Singaporeans here prefer to be 2nd class citizens to PRC Chinese.
Rather than 1st class citizens in their own Singapore.

Ⓜatilah $ingapura⚠️ said...

WTF are you buggers bickering along "racial" lines?

HK and Macau are full of "bananas" and "chap chengs", who also for the most part speak Cantonese and crisp English. (and Macanese in Macau). They identify as Chinese nationals, but enjoy their special "SAR" status.

You young roosters of NS age...trust me, take your 24hr boners and dirty minds over to Macau and hook up with one of those stunning Macanese gals. For the women, there are plenty of "leng zai" chap cheng and banana guys in HK and Macau, who like to dress well and drive flash cars...

Lycurgus80ofsparta said...

I hope the Indonesians can wake up and see that the USG is a bigger threat to their national sovereignty then China. Soon you will see gay parade in Jarkata.

Anonymous said...

With that kind of mentality you think they will wake up? How many million lives were massacred by the Suharto clique at the provocation of the Americans in the anti communist coup? And why they blocked the opening up of the case till today?

Anonymous said...

Tibet. Then we have Taiwan's aboriginals who got displaced. Right. China is always right to pro-China supporters.
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Chinese is the one of those natives on those lands.

Chinese did not sail from another land.

Learn the history.

Unless you are saying that Germany,France, Spain, Portugal are not native in Europe.

Anonymous said...

"Chinese is the one of those natives on those lands.
Chinese did not sail from another land."

Wah, like that can claim Tibet belongs to China ah? What about the Tibetans then? No right? They not born there? Then born where? Why China Chinese so special must give in to them?

This site is infested with people who are China supporters. If you love China so much, why are you still in Singapore? GO back to your beloved motherland lah. Then you can carry China's balls all you want.

Anonymous said...

Just tell us who are you, no need your name. Just whether you are white or black or banana or chap cheng kia will do and we will know where you are coming from.

Anonymous said...

"Just tell us who are you, no need your name. Just whether you are white or black or banana or chap cheng kia will do and we will know where you are coming from."

Tell "us"? Who the fark is "us"? You are so arrogant you think you represent a group of non-existing supporters behind you?

You wan to know who I am? I am your limpeh. Now get back to your studies and stop being addicted to the internet before limpeh ban you from all your computer and handphone.

Anonymous said...

@8.57am, the guy who keeps asking about being banana, chap cheng or what not is the same sex maniac doctor from down under who has been trolling and harassing people since Young PAP forum days. He is always obsessed about race and of course.... sex.

Anonymous said...

Wah, like that can claim Tibet belongs to China ah? What about the Tibetans then? No right? They not born there? Then born where? Why China Chinese so special must give in to them?
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who is the " native" in the Nusantara? - Malaya peninsula

There are so many tribes, ethnicity , races
There are many kingdoms in the past with different identities
They always moving around - North to South, East to West, and vice versa on the same Peninsula.

Who are " Native" among those tribes?

Anonymous said...

To the arsehole @ 4.02. So what has it got to do with Tibet? Another useless argument by pro-communist China to support China stealing Tibet? Wah, like I said, why don't you migrate to your mudderland China so you can carry China's balls instead of sucking up the goodies like GST vouchers here. We don't need traitors like you here.

Anonymous said...

So what has it got to do with Tibet? Another useless argument by pro-communist China to support China stealing Tibet?
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@ 4.49pm

What has it got to do with South China Sea?
Another useless argument by pro US wumao to support USA aggression

Anonymous said...

It does not matter anymore to talk on what is right or wrong.

China did have its chance to resolve all these in the court.

Cannot back out now as the only option is to use force or change of govt. One country after the other will be standing up. Even Pinoy land is buying time in order to arm itself.

This is the best time for arm salesman in this region.

A lot of people are wrong about Indo. If China attack Indo, it is not like any country that you are trying to attack. You are attacking a country with the highest muslim population in the world. Countries in this region especially Singapore know this very well.



Anonymous said...

No use arguing whose land is whose?

The time will come where the people will decide for themselves, just like the referendum UK held to decide whether it wants to leave EU.

Anonymous said...

I've already posted another post saying how Indonesian's generals and admirals true loyalty is to US and not to their own country.

It's not only in Indonesia. In other countries, the same thing also happens all the time.