6/17/2016

Omar Mateen – Gay, terrorist or patriot?

The American establishment has been trying very hard to pin Omar Mateen as a gay or some petty rogue, anything but fighting for the cause of ISIS. They are trying to deny him the right to be called a warrior of ISIS, not to allow him or ISIS to claim credit for the attack. He is gay, he is anti gay! Maybe he is insane, mad?

But when more information came out, after speaking to his wife Noor Salman and those caught in the shooting in the Club, the picture becomes clearer. His call to 911 and what he said, ‘profess allegiance to the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS), and also, ‘”We could hear him talking to 911 saying that the reason why he’s doing this is that he wants America to stop bombing his country,” said Ms Patience Carter,20, who was trapped in a bathroom stall at the nightclub as Omar prowled outside.’

This man was anything but mad. He was anything but gay. He had a family and a child. He was fighting for his country in a way he knew, in a way he could afford, against the American war machine that is devastating his country, killing his people. To his people, this man is their hero, a patriot, a martyr.

The Americans can call him whatever they liked, he was fighting a war against the Americans for invading his country. Was that wrong? Was he a terrorist? A gay? This man was meticulous. He picked his target carefully, did his recee several times to give him the best result when he struck. The number of deaths and injured by a lone gunman spoke for itself.

You make your judgement. And there will be many more Omar Mateens willing to fight and die for their countries as long as the Americans think it is right to invade their countries, bomb their land and kill their people. They are returning the favour to the Americans in the American homeland, to let the Americans have a taste of their own medicine.

Who is the hero, who is the villain? Who is the terrorist, who is the patriot? Would you do the same thing if the enemy invade and bomb your country and kill your people?

It is time the Americans reflect on their wars and the killings of innocent people in other people’s countries. You have no right to do that. That is not your Manifest Destiny. No one is going to condone your silly American Exceptionalism, to attack and kill people in their countries, to start wars everywhere.

But not to worry, many silly Asians and SE Asians are happy to welcome you to start a war in their backyards, in their countries.  They have spent a lot of money buying war machines and very eager to use them to prove that money is well spent, is worth it. War is fun, war is glory. War can make money and make heroes out of the dead and the dumb….and a lot of war collaterals.

48 comments:

patriot said...



Omar Mateen is a patriot to his Motherland of Origin and a hero to his Fellow Believers.
He was totally different with traitors who work for occupier or superpower, betraying fellow countrymen. There were and are folks who sold and sell their souls
to stay alive and gain power by treacherous and despicable means.

History is not short of heroes and villians.

patriot

Anonymous said...

Now it's the universal karmic law at work - do not harm others lest others return u the same deed. It's a lesson to Uncle Sam & they never learn any lessons a all. Is an eye for an eye the solutions to end all hatred? Look like the arrogant Americans have more retributions to come ..

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

The Americans would want to paint him as a gay and gay haters or a mad man. And many American lackey countries in Asean, even Muslim countries, will believe the Americans and be against Omar Mateen if the Americans give them a pat on the back and said 'Good boy'.

Anonymous said...

The Malaysians and Indonesians are now in bed with the Americans. Let's hear what they have to say about this Omar Mateen. Would they condemn him as told by the Americans or would they call him a hero?

Anonymous said...

The Americans can call him whatever they liked, he was fighting a war against the Americans for invading his country.
redbean

Respectfully, Mr Chua.
Omar Mateen was an American.
And since he took up arms against his country of birth.
Omar Mateen is a traitor who has committed treason.

Dictionary definition of a Traitor:

(the crime of) showing no loyalty to your country, especially by helping its enemies or trying to defeat its government

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/treason

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treason

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

To this Omar, his country is still Afghanistan even if he becomes a US citizen. He does not believe in banana logic. He told America to stop bombing his 'country'. You can have your own definition of traitor, and call him a traitor. His people will honour him as a hero, a martyr.

Trump is right about his immigration policy but the politically 'correct' would not dare to tell the truth.

Veritas said...

The SG cock sucker, who are the most sickening people in the planet, now focus their fire on FCBC Rev Lawrence Khong, blaming him for spreading hate in Singapore.

You can never trust cock sucker, including Alex Au, whose mouth mostly sprout lies. Cock suckers only attack Christian for anti-gay. Jews have scores to settle with Christians and the elite USA establishment basically close both eyes when cock sucker hail their insults on Christians.

But cock suckers almost never attack Islam who are the world most horrible murderer of their tribe.

Go see Alex Au blog and see whether he say fuck Islam. Only got Fuck Christian.

Cock suckers have sick mind and I wont sympathize them if they got killed. In many thing they bully, they lie, they intimidate, they strive to destroy moral value. They are toxic people literally. They are vector of HIV, and they sue physicians until pants drop, in order that research paper incriminate hetereosexual as HIV vector.

When Islam and cock sucker clash, I cheer.

The only one saying truth is veritas.

Anonymous said...


Uncle RB 10.24am

I sincerely hope that our govt efforts in integrating "instant" Singaporeans with the people are working well.

I hope someone in the govt is monitoring the outcomes. Who?

So far nothing heard about the outcomes.

Those integration programs are not cheap!

Not cheap! Not cheap!

Veritas said...

USA for all their flaws are ally of Sunni Islam against her enemies, on the exception that Israel interest are safe-guarded.

The 2 most important Sunni states, the Egypt that seated Al Azhar, the Saudi, the guardian of Mecca are ally of USA. On the contrary, USA has been helping Sunni for all her territorial expansion effort.

Sunni got

1. Northern Cyprus, on expense of orthodox.
2. Bosnia, on expense of orthodox.
3. Kosovo, on expense of orthodox.
4. Afghanistan, on expense of orthodox/secular USSR, who was halfway in secularizing Afganistan.

I was on forum and visiting many pages. The USSR actually impose secularism in Afghanistan, build schools, and liberate women. On one shot, USA and her Pakistan ally and Mujahedeen destroy the secular Afghanistan.

But Sunni shit head, are so stupid that they want a despotic caliph to pee on their head, want ampuatation, want death on apostasy...etc that western elites realize they are a big asset in rolling back society into dark ages.

Sunni is never really being rein, but they are allowed to spread terror.

On the other hand, Christian terror cell like KKK are rapidly destroyed.

Why white man can destroy KKK, but cannot destroy Sunni? THis is one interesting question.

Lycurgus80ofsparta said...

"Why white man can destroy KKK, but cannot destroy Sunni? THis is one interesting question."

That is because of the Jews in power in the U.S. The elite, especially the neo conservative interventionist movement is dominated by Jews. While the old paleo con isolationist have been sidelined. At least till trump.

I support the Alawites and Bashir, they based as hell.

Patriot Chua said...

President Obama is conspiring to destroy America because he wants to take revenge on white Americans who had enslaved n oppressed his ancestors.

That is why under his administration now, we are seeing the followings:

1. Unemployment rate in US is the highest now since the Great Depression. Today, white Americans constitute the highest rate of suicide in US because of its diminishing economy.

2. US has the highest rate of mass murder by shooting. Many white Americans shoot n kill among themselves because of mental problem stemmed from massive consumption of illicit drugs.

3. US has the highest rate of domestic terrorist attacks. Obama purposely allows radical Muslims to breed domestically to destroy America.

But without the belligerent war-mongering Americans, this world will be more peaceful.

Anonymous said...

"To this Omar, his country is still Afghanistan even if he becomes a US citizen."
redbean
- if not happy, then renounce your USA citizenship and go back to Afghanistan

"You can have your own definition of traitor, and call him a traitor."
redbean.
- it's not my definition.
- it's the definition of the Cambridge dictionary which agrees with other English dictionaries.

The democratic process allows for change
- As an American, Omar should have started an anti-war movement to stop American military involvement in Afghanistan.
- that's how the war in Vietnam was stopped in the 1970's.

Anonymous said...

Wah, you so impt to ask Omar to return to his country?
Who you?

Ⓜatilah $ingapura⚠️ said...

Mateen was a confused and angry gay man, possibly a jihad-terrorist, with definite "mental issues" but definitely NOT a "patriot".

Warriors who consider themselves "patriots" don't go murdering non-combatant unarmed and non-hostile civilians. "Patriots" directly target the forces which oppress the nation.

It is all very well to murder 50 dancing gays in a nightclub in a "surprise attack". It is a different matter entirely in going back to one's cuntry and doing battle with well-trained coalition military and special forces.

Becoming "radicalised" these days is as easy as jumping onto the internet. There is plenty of content and resources online to assuage the most troubled and confused teenager to sway them to the "ways of Islamic jihad".

The recruiters for jihadist groups have provided well for the "needs of teenagers".

There are videos, chatrooms to hangout in, social media resources, comms apps like Telegram (popular amongst terrorists because of strong encryption), e-zines like Dabiq, and even first person shooter games.

One first person shooter game of note, and very popular as well as effective as a propaganda and recruitment tool is the (Shi'ite) Hezbollah-designed Special Force 2. You get points for killing the enemy, and of course HUGE BONUS if you (the child playing the game) successfully destroy the enemy (and yourself) in a suicide bombing attack.

Ah, teach the children well, as they are the future!

Veritas said...

The good thing about Sunni Islam is slut, loser, piece of shit, scum of society can find cosmic self worth there. Once you join Sunni, you realized you are no longer living a life of worm and loser, but there is a greater life goal -- to murder many many people who oppress your tribe.

In Malaysia the Malay attribute their failure to Chinese sabotage, thanks to Islam that give them such insights. Those Malay that never convert like Iban and other Borneo Dayaks found Islamo piece of shit.

Islam is the most peaceful religion. Whenever anything bad done by Muslims, you cannot blame Islam, and the individual must be a nutcase.

Lycurgus80ofsparta said...

"The good thing about Sunni Islam is slut, loser, piece of shit, scum of society can find cosmic self worth there."

It is not so simple la, within Sunni Islam also got a lot of different school, wahhabi , salafi, deobandi. In Malaysia non muslims not subjected to sharia.

I view Islam as the last outpost of traditionalist against the take over of soul less degeneracy of Mac world.

Anonymous said...

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean, are you nuts? Yes, redbean is nut but you dont' have to behave like one. American mass media has been painting Omar as a Muslim terrorist out to kill gays. It is other news sites that highlighted he was a regular gay visitor at the pub, which only then mass media took up the story. America media and government have been trying so hard to make it look like a Muslim terrorist against gay when it is actually gay on gay attack. Yet, you say otherwise. You live on Mars or what?

Hermit said...

Yes, I recall that the first news was reported as terror attack against gay club. It then turned out that it was a gay on gay attack. But the news is so slow to highlight the latter and keeps drumming the former.

Anonymous said...

Media tried to twist this muslim who found man to man kissing offensive, according to his father. US has gun shops more than fast food chain shops in total. Buying a semi auto gun was so simple. To use it to maximize his objective, this man will regret if he had not found out in details where would be the best spot to inflict maximum injury, including himself.

This man could hardly be a gay believing in "freedom of love". His killing could not be "love". Killing 50 and wounding 53 was love?
I would bet it was hate hate and hate, no love to those he hit.

Trump wanted to use this as an example against muslim. Obama and Hillary will not want this kind of claim to have live example. It was political motive to twist the story.

The same goes to Jo Cox a UK mp killed by a mad man who was said to have shouted "Britain first". Cox was on "Remain camp".

The Britain First Party quickly denied this mad man was related to its party. But the press tried hard to relate the killing to brexit. Today the pound went up. Market believe the Brexit is over. The mad man s act is still unclear. Politics is very dirty and nasty. So politicians must not be nice except they r already dead. If not, they must be losers.

Anonymous said...

Wah, you so impt to ask Omar to return to his country?
Who you?
June 17, 2016 1:42 pm

This is what people do in a democracy.
They change citizenship to the country they want to be loyal to.

Natalie Portman the actress (Anakin Skywalker's wife) converted from American citizenship to Israeli citizenship.

Not happy with your situation;
Then go do something about it.
- no need to kill

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

Ⓜatilah $ingapura⚠️ said...
Mateen was a confused and angry gay man, possibly a jihad-terrorist, with definite "mental issues" but definitely NOT a "patriot".

Warriors who consider themselves "patriots" don't go murdering non-combatant unarmed and non-hostile civilians. "Patriots" directly target the forces which oppress the nation....


You smoking weed again?
How do you expect anyone to fight the American soldiers equipped with state of the art weapons and all the military hardware money can buy?
You call that fair fight? These ill equipped non soldiers will fight when they have some advantage or chances of fighting back.

You mean the Americans soldiers never target civilians or kill civilians, or did it unintentionally?

You want to take on Mike Tyson one on man, man to man?

JayF said...

Does Chua really not know that Omar Mateen was born in the US? I suppose if one day SG is hostile to the PRC he would consider murdering 50 Sinkies in cold blood as an act of patriotism.

He already acts like a Chinese ultra racist anyway. Killed any Tibetans lately

Anonymous said...

This is probably the best news terrorizing all IT staff.
Some one looking for IT jobs and chanced on ida s advertisement.
"iDA titled, “Replacement for Kenneth Yeo Wee”

I have never encountered in this world, be it Singapore and abroad advertising to discredit a outgoing employee. It happened in ida.
Ida is a place that hired one uni of mumbai with a fake master degree being queried in parliament. The mom minister said mumbai uni was reputable not fake. But mumbai is ranked around 2500th to 3000th in this world. There was pictures of how students cheated when uni was having exams. Google to find out yourself.

Mow some ida HR staff advertised a job with name to replace some name called KYW.

I am very sure those trained in singapore with qualification to join HR association will not make such mistake. This ida HR staff is a real fake on HR principles or whatever.

It is a good news to watch the Sg standard dropped till so low. Yet they the civil servants are paid so high, world top paid staff with unbelievable work behavior.

Sg voters deserved to be treated with this kind of low standard because they voted for some dead leader as their imagined one. The live ones are not leading. Agree?

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

'JayF said...
Does Chua really not know that Omar Mateen was born in the US? I suppose if one day SG is hostile to the PRC he would consider murdering 50 Sinkies in cold blood as an act of patriotism.

He already acts like a Chinese ultra racist anyway. Killed any Tibetans lately'


I take offence at this personal attack. If you are a man, come and see me if you have anything personal to settle with him, like a man. Don't hide behind anonymity like a creep.

You know where to find me. You are welcome to face me like a man. Otherwise you are a shameful pondan. Now go and suck your pacifier. Got guts, identify yourself. Sissy!

Fuck you!

You know what happened to Raymond?

JayF said...

Lol. All those flavours and you chose to be salty, Chua.

>>Be Chua Chin Leng
>>Use racist terms against foreigners
>>celebrate IS terrorism by calling a terrorist a patriot.
>>agitate for a foreign power against the interests of our immediate neighbours and accuses our government of being collaborators in pay of foreign powers at best and hopelessly incompetent at worst.
>>openly shills for aggressive behaviour by the PRC to the detriment of Singapore's own national interest of the SCS not becoming a Chinese lake.
>>accuses foreigners from India as being a fifth column with barely concealed racism.
>>peddles xenophobia and conspiracy theories and accuses the local media of being quislings while shilling for a foreign power.

Call the police. Please. Let them see a Chinese chauvinist, xenophobe and possible fifth columnist such as yourself in fool glory.

No, fool isn't a typo.

Lycurgus80ofsparta said...

"Chinese chauvinist, xenophobe and possible fifth columnist "

Thought crime ? Pan Chinese nationalism is one of the ban narratives of the Sg government. In reality there isn't really anything wrong with it.

JayF said...

It is not thought crime when you actively spew hatred and xenophobia with dog whistling on a public blog.

Chua openly engaged in shilling for PRC revanchism on the issue of a territorial dispute, one that our own government has already said should be settled according to established norms, not by history lessons that if following the Chinese logic, Spain, Portugal and the Netherlands also have a claim on the entire SCS.

He also celebrated Singapore's diplomatic setbacks while echoing Chinese slurs of Singapore being a small country and therefore should let the large powers do whatever they wish rather than attempt to seek the aid of another greater power.

Chua had crossed a line when he openly celebrated a mass murderer who was born in the USA,never visited South Asia before and even in his comments justified murdering of civilians because attacking people who can shoot back are too scary.

Chua is everything I said he is, and on top of that he is a terrorist apologist and symphatizer.

Chua. Let's make it clear. I am now accusing you of putting the interests of the PRC and cultural chauvinism above the interests of the Republic of Singapore. I am accusing you of being someone who despite being a Singaporean has loyalties to the PRC rather than the Republic of Singapore.

If you will state without reservation that you are a loyal Singaporean and you place national identity above cultural and racial identity. If you will state clearly that despite your open shilling for PRC political aims, you will chose the Republic of Singapore above the PRC, then I would retract my statement and apologise for calling you a PRC fifth columnist.

You would merely be a Sinophile who's totally immersed in Chinese propaganda and failed to realise what would be ideal for Singapore and a blatant xenophobe who used racist language against the Filipinos and Vietnamese.

Anonymous said...

"Chua. Let's make it clear. I am now accusing you of putting the interests of the PRC and cultural chauvinism above the interests of the Republic of Singapore. I am accusing you of being someone who despite being a Singaporean has loyalties to the PRC rather than the Republic of Singapore. "
June 18, 2016 12:19 pm

So what?
PAP government also has been accused of "putting the interests of foreigners above the interests of Singaporeans".
But PAP still won a landslide election victory in 2015.

PAP has also been accused of being more loyal to foreigners than Singaporeans.
So what?
PAP still won a landslide election victory in 2015.

What's your point?
The internet of free opinions is a meritocracy.
And accusations against PAP in the internet has been convincingly demolished by PAP's landslide victory in 2015.

Uncle Chua is entitled to expressing his opinion.
It's good because it forces Singaporeans to stop and think.
As a self professed banana, I've had numerous disagreements with uncle Chua over China and the interpretation of Chinese history.
I've benefited from the disagreements as I'm sure Mr Chua has also benefited.

If you are the good little Nazi that I think you are.
I suggest you spend more time fucking your wife and making more little babies for Singapore.

JayF said...

Of course Chua is free to peddle his hate xenophobia and barely concealed racism. I am also free to call him a xenophobe racist and bigot

Ⓜatilah $ingapura⚠️ said...

@ still confused, Redbean:

>> You mean the Americans soldiers never target civilians or kill civilians, or did it unintentionally? <<

Two wongs don't make a white ;-)

Ⓜatilah $ingapura⚠️ said...

@ forever a fool, RB:

P.S. Sure, I'll take Mike Tyson (or any big dangerous dude) anyday---if there was a valid reason to (not just to make you and your childish fantasies happy). I will have with me an M4 or MP5, and I guarantee the "event" will be a hot topic on the internet for weeks! :-))

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

JayF, you creep. I just ask you to do a simple thing. Identify yourself as a man instead of hiding behind anonymity and behaving like a sneaky bastard.

I will keep a copy of all your posts here and wait for you to become a real man.

Why, you are so brave to say all those things and not dare to reveal who you are?

JayF said...

Lol Chua you typical racist coward. Resorting to sexist slurs like the simpleton you are.Call the cops and let them see your bigotry and xenophobia. Sprinkle some of your terrorist symphathy for flavour because you dont have any.

Anonymous said...

RB, you think he will dare to identify himself?
A coward is a coward. No need to say more.

JayF said...

So Chua what are you? A loyal Singaporean or a paid PRC agitator? Oh wait. Not a paid one. You do it for free

Anonymous said...

Uncle Chua, you stay out of this and let me fuck this bastard son of mine.

Ok now you called yourself Jayf. You bastard. After fucking your mother so hard to produce you behind your father's back. I told her not to have you but she insisted to. Now see what has become of you. I even gave you a name, Dark Horse, and you refused to use it. Now you shamefully called yourself what, Jayf, you mean Jay fuck is it?

Tonight I am going to bang your mother real hard as a punishment for giving birth to a bastard like you. Waht ever happened to your mama is your fault. Jayfuck.

JayF said...

Damn Chua,

All that salt from your tears are going to give me high blood pressure.

Posting anonymously? lol

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

Thank you Anon 9:13.

Please deal with the bastard son of yours as you deem fit. But be kind to his mother for giving you all the good times.

Anonymous said...

Hey you bastard, yes I am calling you a bastard. Now what are you going to do about it?
Complain to your father? He will wank your mother harder by the sight of your scum face. Calling yourself JayFucker?

JayF said...

Well I can laugh or laugh harder. It's so difficult to chose!

By the way, Chua. How do you like your coffee? Extra thick?

I heard the ones they serve for possible ISIS sympathizers, racists and xenophobes are extra thick.

Dunno about possible fifth columnists though.

POLICE REPORT J/20160618/7014

Dear

POLICE REPORT

I refer to your Police report lodged on 18/06/2016.

Your report has been forwarded to the following police unit for follow-up:

Police Unit : Divisional Investigation Branch
Investigation Officer In-charge :
Contact Number :
Email :


An official copy of your report is attached below. Please quote this report no. J/20160618/7014 for future reference. You may wish to print a copy of the report for your retention.



Yours faithfully



Electronic Police Centre
Singapore Police Force
(This is an auto-generated email. Please do not reply to this email.)

Anonymous said...

My bastard son, why are you still here? Last night I made your ma sooo happy that she groaned and growled for more and promise to slap you for coming here to disturb adults having their conversation.

I am going to bang your ma harder tonight. Your fucking bastard son, shouldn't have listen to your ma to let you live. Should have aborted you there and then.

Please don't show your face here. People will recognise you look exactly like me and will blame me for your silliness. Now fuck off to your ma, you bastard son of mine. And stop calling yourself that silly name, Jay what the fuck?

JayF said...

Lol

Anonymous said...

JayFuck, a taste of your own medicine: )

Anonymous said...

RB, now you have a good reason to make a police report. Tell the police that this guy is trying to use the name of the police to threaten you and intimidate you. Make copies of his posts here as evidence to nail him.

The police would be very unhappy if they know that someone is abusing the good name of the police to threaten people.

Regards.

Anonymous said...

This guy wan to bluff but dunno how to bluff. You cannot make anonymous police report. You have to give your name and IC number. If online, you have to sign in with Singpass. You must also undertake that you understand if you give false statement, you will be prosecuted. You will also be asked to stand in as witness if the case goes to court. You will also be given a copy of the report. Ask this coward to show you a screenshot or scanned copy of the report and not just the number.

Anyone can come up with any number and pretend to make police report. Here is my report that JayF is a pedophile who harass young girls. This is the number POLICE REPORT J/20160618/7014/pedophiles-have-no-shame.

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

Thank you guys and Anon 10pm. I have made copies of all his posts and will use them when necessary.

Trying to make use of the police to threaten people is not something the police will take it kindly. It is damaging the good image of the men in blue. He is ridiculing the police as a tool for him to exploit just by making a report and the men in blue will jump to his tune.

Ⓜatilah $ingapura⚠️ said...

The now famous (due to their arrest and court appearance) Jalals from Melbourne with their NEW PRANK!

😂😂

Can't wait for them to do an Orlando shooting prank. Bad taste? You be the judge. (of course you will)

Anonymous said...

In a NYT report reprinted in the Today paper on 21 Jun,
'In releasing parts of the written transcript, the FBI decided to remove parts of the conversation in which Mateen was heard expressing his allegiance to IS and support for other extremist ideologies....Investigators continue to believe that Mateen was a "lone wolf" attacker...We currently have no evidence that he was connected to an Islamic terrorist group, but radicalised domestically.'