1/26/2016

Elected President or Appointed President better bet?

The heat is on. Do away with the flawed Elected Presidency. How can we have a system where the electorate could vote in a rogue president? We must have a similar system like our GE where no matter how daft the electorate are, they would never elect a rogue govt to power. Our system is so well designed and tested, no rogue govt has been elected so far and would never will. 

Let’s work out another scheme to replace the Elected President scheme that would not end up with a rogue president. How about a new condition that all candidates for the Presidency must come from the ruling party? Why, because the ruling party has a very good tea session that would rule out any potential rogues into parliament or to become the president. Just a suggestion only ok, don’t get excited or angry can? Maybe all presidential candidates must be natural aristocrats. Natural aristocrats are incorruptible by nature.

Maybe an easier way is to revert to the appointed president scheme. That one was working until some smart alec said an elected president scheme is better. Since all the smart alecs now said elected president not safe, then go back to appointed president. When they panicked the last time, they forgot the principle that when something is not broken, don’t change it. But they changed it, to an elected president, and now they suddenly discovered that this is a bad scheme.

But before they go back to the appointed president scheme, let me quote a comment by an anonymous here.

‘Anonymous said... If a rogue regime chooses its own President and any Other Office Holders.  NAURALLY ALL WILL BE ROGUE.  Commonsense la.’

What do you think, does this comment make any sense? Which scheme will be more dangerous, an elected president when the mistake, if made, will be made by the electorate, or the appointed president where the mistake would be made by a handful of people? Should the election of a president be left in the hands of a rogue govt? A president can be a rogue, an elected govt also can become rogue right?

Should the govt take heed to the comments by this anonymous or to listen to the smart alecs? Is there a system that can guarantee a president that is not corrupt?

75 comments:

Anonymous said...

1 person effort can never achieve anything
Must complement wif a very gd team.(over haul sumtimes is necessary)

Virgo49 said...


Ever heard of "Soo woon pai lei???"

Green white faced evil scholar.

Common folks of peasants more passionate and honest than them.

So many Directors petty cash cash also gasak, laptop also gasak. Ex-NTUC Chief also CBT.

Next Presidential Candidate must be ex Honorable Ministers, ex-Top CIvil Servants,ex-Judges etc etc.

One must not shame the PAP ruling elites,

They will try first to put a ceremonial President, if not the hurdles are so high that even TCB, TJS or whoever don't not think to qualify.

Anonymous said...

// A president can be a rogue, an elected govt also can become rogue right? //

The logic of statistics or rather probability could easily throw light to the darkness surrounding the above question?

Anonymous said...

But power can ( temporarily ) defy any logic?

Anonymous said...

Just like gravity can be ( temporarily ) defied?

Anonymous said...

An aeroplane can ( temporarily ) defy the law of gravity, take off, soar towards the sky and cruise above the clouds but sooner or later it will be subjected to gravity ......?

Anonymous said...

The defy ( against gravity ) by the aeroplane is only temporary. ......

Anonymous said...

When a system is poorly maintained or built, any tinker is just temporary?

Anonymous said...

Gravity will, sooner or later, subject the plane to its law, unless it touch down on time .....?

Anonymous said...

But on the other hand, though it is oso known that in economics, fiscal and monetary policies effects are short run in essence, there may be a turn back, once embarked ....?

Anonymous said...

Fuck lah, just get rid of the fucking president lah. Whether elected or appointed president, a majority rogue govt can always change laws & the constitution to make it legal to replace, change, jail or even execute whatever president.

President is just a fucking waste of taxpayer money. Right now the president is being used as a mouthpiece and mascot for PAP, and yet another cock-sucking method to suck away more of taxpayer monies.

Anonymous said...

Typo @ 10.14 am

Should be " may NOT be a turn back" ....

For examples, in Japan and the US, there is no turn back option liao in their economics fiscal and monetary policies. ......

Anonymous said...

Their only option is to continue to use fiscal and monetary policies ( though already ineffective at some point in time ), to manage their economies?

Anonymous said...

At their current ( national ) financial situations, what other option than to continue with past fiscal and monetary policies ( and pretend they are going to fix the problems )?

Anonymous said...

Thus the issue is not whether the plane can defy gravity ( forever ), it is not if BUT WHEN the plane needs to touch down?

Anonymous said...

Thus, statistics or rather probability can easily give an answer to the above quoted question?

Anonymous said...

No need to ( wayang and ) debate on the issue ( and wasting a lot of taxpayers resources and everybolee's time at taxpayers expense )?

Anonymous said...

In the short run, power can defy the logic of statistics ( and/ or probability ) ?

In the long run, power ( like the aeroplane ) has to subject itself to the logic of statistics and/ or probability ( just like gravity )?

Anonymous said...


Why waste time and resources?

Follow the KISS principle!

KISS...... Keep It Super Simple!

Cheers.

Ⓜatilah $ingapura⚠️ said...

My choice: President appointed by parliament. The process duly recoreded in Hansard, and captured by camera for TV broadcast. Everything out in the open

How parliament chooses the president is up to them....either by vote or by throwing dice, or even oh-peh-som doesn't matter. Those on the short-list to become president have already passed "the criteria" setup by parliament---aka our democratically elected members of the house we chose fair-and-square, we pay BIG BUCKS to, and whom we DESERVE.

Popularly elected president: Worst idea EVER!.

Anonymous said...

// The heat is on. Do away with the flawed Elected Presidency. How can we have a system where the electorate could vote in a rogue president? We must have a similar system like our GE where no matter how daft the electorate are, they would never elect a rogue govt to power. Our system is so well designed and tested, no rogue govt has been elected so far and would never will. //


RB, to draw an analogy in Mathematics, to reach a solution or solutions, 2 curves or 2 lines or 1 curve and 1 line must intersect each other, otherwise there is no answer ( solution ) to the set of functions in the situation faced. ....?

Anonymous said...

In the end, the other animals could not differentiate the pigs from the humans. They look similar.

Anonymous said...

Whether the idea is good or bad, it will go down well after lots of talking cock and singing songs that Sinkies like to hear. It always work. There is nothing we can do and there is everything they can do.

Anonymous said...

If say quadratic equation A ( a function say f(x) ) which represents the people, and quadratic equation B ( a function say g(x) ) which represents the elites, and YEW try to find the points of intersection ( common interests ) between quadratic equation A ( the people represented by function f(x) ) and quadratic equation B ( the elites represented by the function g(x) ), so YEW equalise f(x) and g(x) in mathematical equation form, right?

Anonymous said...

@ AnonymousJanuary 26, 2016 1:50 pm
//In the end, the other animals could not differentiate the pigs from the humans. They look similar.//


It has to be the case, at least going by the bell curve .....?

No?

In order to differentiate anything, do YEW not know YEW need to understand a branch of mathematics called Calculus?

Anonymous said...



Elected president can provide a check and balance against rogue govt ( if immature opposition party take power)

Elected president should also subjected to another group of committee ( provide another check and balance against his power)

This group of committees should been elected by those certified economist experts,accountant,not ordinary people.

This Committee had power to perform a judicial review on the decision made by the president. ( in event that the president is stalling any good plan by govt)














Anonymous said...

How would the 70% know how to differentiate even simple things ( functions ) when they do not know and understand the "Calculus" of sinkieland politics?

Anonymous said...

As an analogy, if YEW do a survey at an MRT station, how many sinkies would know how to differentiate ( mathematically ) a simple function say, ln(g(x))?

Anonymous said...

Without knowing any "Calculus" of sinkieland politics, is it any surprise most sinkies ( about 70% ) do not know how to differentiate a pig from a human?

Just like many sinkies do not know and understand much mathematics calculus and therefore do not know how to differentiate a simple mathematical function say ln(g(x)) or know what is the derivative of ln(g(x))?

Only the minority ( about 30% ) knows ......?

Anonymous said...

But how can or in what ways can the minority ( about 30% ) impart this "Calculus" knowledge to the majority ( about 70% ) so that they know how to differentiate pigs from humans or know the answer to the derivative of choosing between pigs and humans?

Anonymous said...

Why derivative?

Bcos in mathematics when YEW know how to differentiate a function, YEW will get a ( correct ) derivative ( solution ) .......?

But how to bring about this process?

Any courses among the 10,000 under SkillsFuture that teach the "Calculus" of sinkieland politics so that the about 70% majority understand basic "Differentiation" in sinkieland politics and able to "differentiate correctly" between pigs and humans?

Anonymous said...

There is yet another commonsense about Sg in sin(moral)
The Tiny Dot shall sink and Sinkies
suffer NOT because they are starving,
BUT, because of GREED and SELFISHNESS of the People from the
VERY TOP TO THE BOTTOM and there
are 70% of them.


Anonymous said...

What is there for Sinkies to calculate not to mention understand calculus? Throw them a few lollipops or scraps and they will understand fully well what that means. And when they ask for more, ho liao, just keep throwing and there will be more good years for the PAP.

May the farce be with us!

Anonymous said...

In some instances, the resulting quadratic equation from equalising f(x) ( representing the people ) and g(x) ( representing some ( rogue ) elites ) may have no solution bcos its determinant ( b2 – 4ac ) is negative ( < 0 ) .......

Anonymous said...

As an analogy, the Elected Presidency could be function h(x), cutting across f(x) and g(x) with solutions for x where h(x) ( hypothetically speaking the Elected Presidency ) intersects f(x) ( representing the people ) and g(x) ( representing some "(rogue) elites" hypothetically )?

Anonymous said...

Now h(x) ( the Elected Presidency ) may offer "HOPE" ( to the people ) as there are solutions ( for x ) where h(x) intersects f(x) and g(x)?

Anonymous said...

With f(x) ( hypothetically representing the people ) and g(x) ( hypothetically representing some "( rogue ) elites" ) "oceans apart" and therefore offering no solution for the variable x, h(x) ( hypothetically representing the Elected Presidency ) functions as a "bridging mechanism" offering "HOPE" to the people as solutions can be found for variable x where h(x) interconnects f(x) and g(x)?

b said...

We are not living in middle age. Elections is a proof of civilization.

Anonymous said...

Like Taiwan, presidential candidates come from political parties. Liddat, if you like pap then vote her candidate lah! If not we can vote LTK as president and pap as gahmen. Ho-boh?

Anonymous said...

Sori... i Only noe how to que n colour black dot on 4D slip...

Anonymous said...

Very gooooooood!

Ching Ho!

YEWR "chance to get jackpot" of $12,000,000 is "coming soon" .......

Anonymous said...

The probability to win is .......

Anonymous said...

@ AnonymousJanuary 26, 2016 7:11 pm
"Sori... i Only noe how to que n colour black dot on 4D slip..."


The 70% kongcums hopeless liao?

Ai Jiak Mai Cho?

Every time hoping for the easy way out?

Anonymous said...

Putting the burden on the 30%?

Anonymous said...

To bear the taxes?

Fight against competition?

Save the day?

Anonymous said...

// Elected President or Appointed President better bet? //

Better bet is to vote Aung Juan Soon Chee?

Anonymous said...

Or get a 2nd passport?

Anonymous said...

Or join Virgo49 in Matland?

virgo49 said...

No need second passport lah.

Najib gave you one month stay.

Got 500k sin dollars already millionaire here.

Cross over to Thailand or Indon and back another one month extension.

Rental here condo at Rm800.00. Cheaper one share apartment only 200.

Somemore got pretty mei meis together. Never a dull moment.

Sell 5 rm hdb for 800k and applied silver haired PR.

Hosipital only 8rm.outpatient.

Got Melaka Mahokota hospital.can use medisave.

What a relief from the chow ang mos, black ants and we faxed or farked you.

Cheers

Anonymous said...

@ Anonymous January 26, 2016 7:11 pm
"Sori... i Only noe how to que n colour black dot on 4D slip..."


That's a ( rather ) "promising" start .......?

Now, do YEW noe that the probability of striking 4D for punters is only (1 in 0.1 billion chance ) x 23 including Baey Sai ( literally "horse-shit" which is consolidation prizes )?

Some bortakchay intuitively gasak that the chance is (1 in 0.01 million) x 23 but do YEW noe that is INCORRECT?

Anonymous said...

Condo only 800rm?

That's abt 200+sgd?

Wah lah?

Anonymous said...

City of sins 200+sgd CANNOT even get a utility room in those 31/2 rm HDB flats?

Anonymous said...

Maybe only enough to rent and sleep in the kitchen toilet in a HDB flat?

virgo49 said...

You want to rent??

Melaka casa lago next to Mahkota see waves every.day. just RM800.

This year maybe cheaper.

World recession.

Anonymous said...

City of sins elites "tai lang pang huey"?

Anonymous said...

Their "TOH" ( "sabre" ) machiam 宝刀?

Teochew called it very "LAI" ( 3rd tone aka sounds like "LIE" ) .......

Teochew described it as "Tai Ga Huek Lao Lao" .......?

Anonymous said...

Aiyo ........

Cheaper than the monthly carpark lots in many buildings basement carpark?

And no waves to see somemore, every night shadows a lot to see somemore?

Anonymous said...

Some carpark lots in Marina Bay area in City of Sins monthly parking fees near to 4-digit ( in SGD, not RM, OK? )?

Anonymous said...

Once HSR is up in 2023, can sell everything and live in Melaka liao ......?

Anonymous said...

The mobility of labour has depressed sinkies wages?

Anonymous said...

With HSR, the "mobility" of land ( properties ) will depress rents and therefore properties prices?

virgo49 said...

Bro, not end of story. Go to Mahkota overhead bridge below and take 18RM coach to City Above The Clouds.No need pay 100sin for admission.

Melaka Sentral buses from RM10 to KL and all destinations of Matland. No need hassle at checkpoints.

Stay at Mahkota areas shopping belts and nights go to melaka raya lots of K sing songs and lounges young pretty hostesses.

If stay alone can bring one back for overnight. Paid in ringitt

Anonymous said...

@ virgo49 January 27, 2016 8:02 am
//You want to rent??//

Ai want to rent (out) "mickey mouse shoe box" condo in River Valley area ( Tong Wxxx Rd ) .....?

395 sq ft, asking ONLY SGD4,000 ( about 12,000 RM btw ) o.n.o.?

Virgo49, YEW want to rent?

Give YEW 30% discount?

Special price about RM9,000?

Fully furnish, everything have ...... with branded full-latex double top double bed ( market value about SGD6,000 equivalent RM18,000 ) ........ etc?

Anonymous said...

Wow?

Nose bleeding liao Lo .....?

Tissue ....... tissue ........ mind saliva ...... aiyo ...... quick ..... tissue ....?

Anonymous said...

@ virgo49January 27, 2016 8:25 am
//Bro, not end of story. Go to Mahkota overhead bridge below and take 18RM coach to City Above The Clouds.No need pay 100sin for admission.//


No wonder the NODX ( no oil domestic exports ) of City of sins keep plunging. ..... the elites ( still sleeping in their 1,000 storey ivory towers ) scratching their heads till like botak .....?

Recently bumped into some tourists near Sentosa .......

After paying for some lousy lunch in cheapskate food court, saw the tourists all sticking out their TONGUES ....... overheard them saying among themselves next time cannot come anymore ...... machiam kena "ROBBED" ...... LEEGALLY?

Anonymous said...

Those low income Sinkies every month, every week, every day, every hour, every min, every sec kena "ROBBED" LEEgally, how to tahan?

Anonymous said...

@ virgo49 January 27, 2016 8:25 am
//Melaka Sentral buses from RM10 to KL and all destinations of Matland. No need hassle at checkpoints.//


Fabulous. ......?

Mind heart now in Matland liao ......?

Golden sunset, golden sunset ...... Matland ....... here ai cum ....?

Anonymous said...

Much better than what a (stupid) minister said about old sinkies rampaging rubbish bins under hot sun and rain to collect cardboards for exercise during twilight years .....?

Anonymous said...

// Stay at Mahkota areas shopping belts and nights go to melaka raya lots of K sing songs and lounges young pretty hostesses.//

Wow!

Better than seeing all the papigs "lao kuey bu" doing gangnam and social dance in public areas ......

So old liao still try to act "young" all these papigs "lao kuey bu" ......

Anonymous said...

// If stay alone can bring one back for overnight. Paid in ringitt //


Wow?

Virgo49, YEWR lobang very good good ......?

Fresh, Cheap, Big, No VD, Convenient. ....... where to find?

Sinkieland only have those very old and many transvestites type standing on roadsides, some more the voice so hoarse, wear women's clothes in men's bodies ...... aiyo ...... the food all come out liao ........?

YEW look lower their legs below the miniskirts they somehow managed to squeeze in, so ........ so ....... so much hairs ........ maciam a hairy King Kong .......?

Some more people walk past they will ask, " short time want? 200(SGD)"?

OMXG?

That is more than RM600 and ....... and .......?

City of sins habis liao .......?

Even prostitutes quality and pricing totally super uncompetitive. ......?

Anonymous said...

// Elected President or Appointed President better bet? //


On 2nd thought, think doesn’t matter liao .......?

Either way, there is only one ending ........?

The chance for a good one is as high as the probability of striking toto .....?

Anonymous said...

The elites can continue to live their high lives in their 1,000 storeys ivory towers ....?

Anonymous said...

Engage in their high falutin TKSS and "wayang debate" .......?

Anonymous said...

And continue to concoct all types of mechanisms to extract the last "drop of blood" out of sinkies ......?

Anonymous said...

But many in the 30% will not be sitting ducks but actively seeking for another ( fresher ) pasture to replace the current ( fast burning and drying up ) pasture ( soon to turn into wasteland )?