8/12/2015

A mismatch between honesty and reality

“We have proven that together, we are greater than the sum of our parts,” he said. “Most of all let us celebrate how we journeyed from Third World to First, as one united people, leaving no one behind.”

Mr Lee reminded all that every Singaporean has benefited from Singapore’s progress.

“We are a nation of home owners,” he said. “Everyone has opportunities to improve themselves. Everyone can look forward to a brighter future.”

The above is the gist of Hsien Loong’s National Day Message to the people. I would expect many Singaporeans would be very pleased and grateful to him and his govt for taking the country so far and bringing wealth and well being to the people of Singapore. 

A post in TRE under the title ‘PM: We will always have a bright future ahead of us’ drew many flakes and many negative responses. Let me just quote a few comments here.

  • PWP architect:


There is no future for the people if you continue to wield absolute power !

Unlike your father who while harsh, will never think of subjecting our lives and livelihoods to the mercies of millions of 3rd world migrants.

You cannot be trusted to have the blank cheque anymore.

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Rating: +225 (from 237 votes)

  • Pui pui pui:


You have become public enemy number 1 the day we knew of your PWP.

Instead of protecting our lives and livelihoods, your PWP has, and is exposing us to dangers and unacceptable risks.

Do you realize what you are doing to this once beautiful country your father and his patriotic founding members have worked so hard to achieve?

Do you realize that the people are not that daft to know that your PWP is a policy to fix the people – to fix them for giving you lesser and lesser votes?

Do you know why you are being despised by almost half the population, if not more?

You have destroyed our motherland … sad that you chose to treat us with contempt.

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  • Traitor lee get lost:

August 8, 2015 at 11:23 pm  Traitor lee get lost(Quote)

The old guards and the pioneers build this nation.
You betray the people and sold the country to feed yr ego and greed.
You are the main cause of the declining population with overpriced public housing, crumbling crowding transport, insufficient public housing, insufficient child care and support, insufficient healthcare and support.
What is your solution?
Pea brain import and replace your own countrymen.
You are a bloody traitor. Get lost before the people kick you out.

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Rating: +41 (from 41 votes)

The above are just 3 of 128 comments posted with very strong words against Hsien Loong and his policies. How could these people be so negative about what is happening in Singapore? The recent National Day Parade to celebrate SG50 was all pomp and pageantry, something that made Singaporeans proud for what we have achieved over the last 50 years. Or could the commentators in TRE be just a very small minority who did not benefit from the success and growth of the country? Were they biased or simply blind and not able to see the great happenings and goodness in the country arising from all the good policies of the govt? Why so negative? Why couldn’t they see the bright future going forward painted by Hsien Loong and his team? Don’t they believe anything Hsien Loong said?

Is there any element of truth in these negativities expressed by the commentators? They did not seem to be nuts or ignorant people. They did not seem to be from IMH. Why is there such a mismatch in the perception of the future of Singapore?

What is the truth? Or is this a case of the big divide, where some are getting richer and richer while some are getting poorer and poorer? Maybe the answer will come from the result of the GE. If the majority of the people are benefiting from Hsien Loong’s govt and policies, he should go on to win this GE with a comfortable majority. Otherwise his majority will be reduced and he may find himself with a bigger opposition in Parliament, or worse.

We have perhaps a month to find out the truth.

38 comments:

Anonymous said...

// You have become public enemy number 1 the day we knew of your PWP.//

Mb somebody has become somebody else public enemy NO. 1 BERSATU the day he started blogging non-stop day and night 365/7/24 like an obstinate ox on steriod.

Anonymous said...

Are you talking about your father?

Anonymous said...

"The above are just 3 of 128 comments posted with very strong words against Hsien Loong and his policies."
RB

I thought there were already many such comments posted on internet even before 2011? Because I have been reading the internet on such matters even before RB started his blog in 2005.

But what happened in GE 2011? And will it happen again, maybe with even better outcome for Hsien Loong, since the Hsien Loong of 2015, although still not good lah, that's why the above comments, is fairly speaking, a bit better than the Hsien Loong of 2011?

patriot said...

How any citizens can respect their GOVERNMENT WHEN THEIR RULERS PAWN THE CITIZENRY AND SELL NATIONAL ASSETS
IS REALLY BEYOND ME.

Maybe there is ONLY SELF AND NO NATION IN OUR SOCIETY.

patriot

Anonymous said...

"If the majority of the people are benefiting from Hsien Loong’s govt and policies, he should go on to win this GE with a comfortable majority."
RB

In fact, that's exactly what is happening. And Hsien Loong knows. How? Because being PM, he has all the data and info about Sinkies mah, like the IRAS records, how many new citizens minted, etc which is not available to RB.

So of course Hsien Loong is more informed and confident than RB lah, about PAP going to win this GE with a comfortable majority.

Anonymous said...

.
The father worked for japanese imperial army when they were killing the Chinese.

His children work for the benefits of aliens and they are rever, idolize and at least respected.
No wonder peasants pay homages to evil gods and goddesses of diseases, natural disasters and even murderers, Shinto Shrine etc.

Daft are beyond redemption.

Anonymous said...


wa wa wa.......

thought the ground is very very very sweet......

it seems that there are still lots of very very very
unhappy people in this tiny city state......

why why why.......

why so unhappy.....

you have everything what......

like that, this situation is very very very serious...........

agongkia said...

Dun listen to those below average IQ losers only know how to kpkb and only like to listen to discouraging words n whinning.
Talk as if they know the father very well and want to compare the son to him.
They worry to offend the son so pretend to say good about the father first before complaining about the son.Bluff who?
I prefer the son soft tactic, else we may not even be able to celebrate sg 50 happily today.

Anonymous said...

We should be very grateful that we are not dumped in the Gulag archipelago. So merciful.

Anonymous said...

Why are Singaporeans so negative? Why are Singaporeans so uptight about the immigration issue? According to the PAP government. FTs are here to create more jobs for Singaporeans. To a large extent this is true. So why are some Singaporeans so anti-FTs? LHL said in his speech that no one has been left behind. Every Singaporeans has benefitted from the PAP policies over the last 50 years. To be fair this is quite accurate. Most Singaporeans " own " their HDB flats. 99 years is a long time, and as far as the government is concerned it is a freehold. Singaporean children have good education and good medical facilities.

IMHO, Singaporeans have been having it good for the past 50 years. The PAP government has catered for every need of the Singaporeans, from their daily needs to their future old age. Economic circumstances have gradually changed over the years. What were good ideas and economic prudence, have now been outdated by changes of events and development in this new era. So why are some Singaporeans not satisfied with the PAP mode of governance? Maybe they are the small portion of the population which have been left behind. Sadly, I can understand their sentiment, because there are old Singaporeans folks in their 70s or 80s collecting dishes in hawker centres and there are these same folks collecting cardboard.

So, for the PAP government to say that no one has been left behind is not totally true. In any system one must never expect to have a 100% success. Few will fall through the cracks. The success for any system must be measure by the percentage of those falling through the cracks. In Singapore I feel the this percentage is relatively small when compared with other Asian countries. Therefore I must deduce tat the PAP government over the last 50 years have done a good job. Agree?

Anonymous said...

"Mr Lee reminded all that every Singaporean has benefited from Singapore’s progress."

Really ah?
If everyone benefited equally, then why you benchmark your pay against the top earners in Singapore? Why not the median or the bottom earners?

“We are a nation of home owners,” he said.

Really ah?
HDB is the owner of "my" HDB flat not me.
Since 90% of Singaporeans live in HDB flats, and HDB owns the HDB flats.
This means only 10% of Singaporeans own their own homes.

“Everyone has opportunities to improve themselves. Everyone can look forward to a brighter future.”

Really ah?
That's why our elderly is working as toilet cleaners, collecting cardboard boxes for exercise is it?

ℳatilah_$ingapura said...

The piece of shit, and national embarrassment aka the TRE is hardly the place to base any reliable nevermind objective view of the world or domestic zeitgeist.

It is quite natural, and HEALTHY to criticise your national leader's speeches. Imagine the cuntry you would have if everyone nodded in agreement everytime a govt. apparatchik opened their mouth?

What I find funny is that many of the people doing the criticizing will be voting the incumbents back into authority in about a month's time.

No wonder the sheeple kena scolded by Amos Yee. They deserve it ;-)

patriot said...

Lol aka lots of laugh.

Sinkies old and young;

Please ask yourselves,
have You NOT work or struggle to keep yourself afloat or even to make yourself successful?
In what way have You depended on the Government for your attainment and success???
Are they NOT THE RESULTS OF YOUR DILIGENCE AND OWN EFFORT???

HOW DO THE RULERS PAY THEMSELVES MILLIONS SIN-DOLLARS?
IS IT NOT FROM YOUR HARDWORK
AND SUCCESS???
THEIR MILLIONS COMES FROM DONATIONS, FROM THEIR OWN ENTERPRISES???
IT IS FROM THE TAXES OF THE PEOPLE; GST, COE, ERP, FOREIGN WORKER LEVIES, PROPERTY & SALARY TAXES, BUSINESS LICENCE, EXCISE DUTY ETC.
WHERE DOES THE MONEY COMES FROM??
ANSWER: FROM YOU, THE PEOPLE.

WHAT ARE THE WELFARES FROM THE GOVERNMENT?

PLEASE ENLIGHTEN.

patriot

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

Singaporeans are the donors to the millionaire welfare pool.

Anonymous said...

ℳatilah_$ingapuraAugust 12, 2015 10:57 a.m.
"The piece of shit, and national embarrassment aka the TRE is hardly the place to base any reliable nevermind objective view of the world or domestic zeitgeist."


The above sentence sounds rather incongruent and doesn't gel but if the word "TRE" is replaced with another word "@*#!&¥%μ`/[¿^/¿[\^°#@*&!"." ( aka the name of a lowly ranked publication ), it may sound more congruent. Mati may have meant that publication rather than "TRE" ? "指桑骂槐"?

Anonymous said...

Singaporeans are all blessed with equal opportunity. Just because some are lagging behind does not mean the system has failed them. It could be because they are not as hard working as others who are more successful. Please do not blame your lack of success on the system. Meritocracy is the Singapore way. If you cannot achieve with the opportunity provided, then you will lag behind.

Anonymous said...


I hope Mr Khaw can be our new Transport Minister.

He is the BEST!

After solving all the problems at Health Ministry
and HDB, we need his expertise in solving the
transport problem.

Don't you think so?

What say you?

Anonymous said...

"I hope Mr Khaw can be our new Transport Minister.
He is the BEST!"

I hope a new government will be elected to solved our transportation problem.

Anonymous said...

" Singaporeans are all blessed with equal opportunity. .... Please do not blame your lack of success on the system. Meritocracy is the Singapore way.
August 12, 2015 11:45 a.m.

If Lee Kuan Yew has left behind a "good" system for us.
Then his "good" system will surely survive even if an opposition government were elected.

Just as the Catholic church has survived thousands of years under democracy, dictatorships, communism and military juntas.

Do you think LKY has left behind a legacy that can stand up under close scrutiny and debate.
heck.
Don't you think his "legacy" felt threatened enough by a 16 year old blogger?
If like that, then how to stand the test of time.

Anonymous said...

Nothing, no man or system is perfect.

Time will tell whether old man's wisdom is correct given the choice he made.

Devising a sustainable system that is able to withstand a diverse culture and an unstable and tumultuous world setting is easier said than done.

Will Mr Teochew, Aung Juan Soon Chee, Sonofadud, Temporary Tahan, etc able to say publicly they can design and build a system better than old man?

After 23rd Mar 2015, the coming month is the first (major) test how well the system old man built with his PG cohort can withstand a "STRESS TEST" without him around.

He probably was observing the parade in his seat but most if not all people cannot see his presence ......

Most likely he will be observing from where he is now how the system he has ( painstakingly and meticulously ) built carries on after he exited the scene .....

Not many men save old man and the cohort he persuaded to lead would want to be in his and their shoes in the 1950s through the 1970s.

If sinkieland does not do well, it is the collective faults of all sinkies. If the leaders failed sinkies, it was the sinkies who put them there. Who voted for them other than the sinkies?

Sinkies have to live with what they got.

And going forward live with what they choose!

Incumbents or the non-incumbents.

Anonymous said...

As history unfolds, time will tell what were the "scripts" and "contents of the 锦囊" left behind.

Anonymous said...

https://youtu.be/Dz-Iy_pzFEA

YouTube video.

The "end of an era with plenty of bloodbath" ....... horrifying scene. ( Viewers warning : many uncomfortable scenes )

Anonymous said...

The rule of law must prevail, otherwise it will be the anarchic rule of the jungle.

Anonymous said...

Prediction for after the GE 2015..............PAP will win majority seats in Parliament. The opposition will probably win a few more seat that the GE of 2011. However, with majority seats in Parliament and all PAP MPs toeing party line, nothing will change. Singaporeans will HAVE TO welcome more FTs to make up population up to 6.9 million or maybe more. Sorry to say, there is nothing Singaporeans who are against this policy can do about it.

Anonymous said...

After 23rd Mar 2015, the coming month is the first (major) test how well the system old man built with his PG cohort can withstand a "STRESS TEST" without him around.
August 12, 2015 1:15 p.m.

Aiyoh-yoh.
MRT already fail liao.
Little India riot already liao.
- and still this deaf & blind pig say the system that LKY built is working well.

Lee Kuan yew's legacy is Lee Hsien Loong.
Sprung from the old man's own loins.
Do you think LKY's legacy got any use or not?

patriot said...

Simply put.

If Raffles had not built the Foundation for Singapore.
No one would have make
it any better.

A tiny rock World Renowned as
a MOST BUSY (Sea) PORT FOR 2 CENTURIES.

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

patriot

patriot said...

Haha.......Hehe......

The Horrible Man left a shit

man that will destroy whatever

legacy the Horrible Man left behind.

Can anyone says the Horrible Man was wise or even clever??

patriot

Anonymous said...

Hi patriot, pls stop being disrespectful. Be thankful for what has been done for you and family. Without LKY's legacy you would not be educated to write in this forum.

patriot said...

Dear Anon 4:14.

I sincerely thank You for addressing me.

A d I like You and Others to know that I was not educated by Lee Kuan Yew and or PAP.
Anyway, I actually did not received much schooling(education) nor did I depend on any politician to survive.
In fact, I feel that my life is been much upset by the political developments over the years.

I missed the Good Old Days under the British Rule.
However, You could be too young to understand.

I had being an active citizen for over four decades, used to write to ministries and parliamentarians in the past but, yielded nothing encouraging.

No alternative to express and air angst and disappointment, so take rides at Cyber Highway to cool myself and also to interact with like minded folks.
Another good reason is to learn and educate myself.

I have great admirations for enlightened folks and I found many in Cyberland.

Like to say here that NOT ALL EDUCATED FOLKS ARE ENLIGHTENED.
MANY ARE EDUCATED SCOUNDRELS.

Thank You once more.

patriot

Anonymous said...

"Without LKY's legacy you would not be educated to write in this forum."
August 12, 2015 4:14 p.m.

Dear PAPig
Without Singaporeans' loyalty and support, Lee Kuan Yew would not be enjoying his million dollar salary for so many years.

GE 2015.
Let's see if PAP can survive without the support of Singaporeans.
Or if Singaporeans can survive without PAP.
Let's see who "dies" first.

patriot said...

I LIKE TO SAY HERE

THAT THE DEFEAT OF PAP HAS

BEGUN EVEN BEFORE HUSTINGS START.

NOT ONLY LUI TUCK YEW HAS CHICKENED OUT.
EX-DPM WONG KAN SENG
EX-MINISTER MAH BOW TAN
YOUNGISH IRENE NG AND HRI KUMAR AND OTHERS ARE ALSO ABANDONING SHIP.

Looking at the Newbies being introduced, my personal feel is that they are too elitist a d maybe born aristocrats rather than natural aristocrats.
I DONT TRUST that the New Candidates can empathize with the people just like their established masters. Otherwise, why are so many PAP Parliamentarians getting laid off?

The Rumbling of Collapse is happening.

patriot

Anonymous said...

When PM waved to the crowd during the parade, did we hear the response that was so spontaneous the way LKY received when he just walked into the scene?

Anonymous said...

Forget education or even Schooling. In Singapore, the legacy is a good brainwashing. At least the British were too disinterested, too bochap, and thus let the locals depend on their own God given ingenuities survive. So we had Chinese Clans to help each other find jobs etc. Under the British "misrule" we developed our own culture, some form of independent press, and a diverse political discourse. More some reason very successful local entrepreneurs somehow emerged without the misguidance stat boards like the EDB/Spring/STPB. (How our economy have survived with their meddling is a miracle).

When the Brits left, the succeeding government took it upon themselves to impose their values, their world view on a populace used to thinking for itself. All of a sudden the government knows what is best, and they imposed it with ruthless efficiency. The result of 5 decades of efficient government? A homogenous population of automatons who neither excel in English or Chinese, and either can't think for themselves or are afraid to speak their minds. This led by a class of arrogant, Kate Spade loving, IGNOBILITIES. But, I concede this to the British, the Chicopek Pommie has a great track record of leaving despots to rule their former colonies.

Anonymous said...

And a Japanese collaborator at that !!!!

Anonymous said...

As NTD said previously, there are too much complacency (and the accompanying incompetence).

The system can do better with more spurs pierced into the hides of some of the drivers who have fallen asleep and shake them up from their deep slumber with bigger and harder slaps.

There are many areas, some urgently in need of fast and vast improvements. Many are not new issues, some being brought to the aristocrats attention in the past decades but fallen on deaf ears of frogs and see no-evil head in sand ostriches.

The political capital built up by the PG cohort may have been squandered and depleted since 1990 and real, fundamental improvements of employment opportunities, non-discrimination in work place by aliens, unnecessary wastage in unending upgrades that lead to steep price increases must be reviewed and moderated so that rent-seeking do nothing leeches do not conveniently pass price increase and heap all the burdens onto the peasants, enslaving most if not all for life.

Lao Goa's asset enhancement programme in the 1990s has set in motion a vicious cycle of huge transfer of wealth from every new job entrants to his cohort. The artificially inflated cost of living, housing prices, prohibitive cost and opportunity cost of starting a family are all indirectly the sound of the death knell of Sinkieland' s dodo in a gradual process not unlike the frog being cooked in a pot of warm water unable to jump out.

Sinkies going the way of dodo is inevitable when the cost to reproduce is stacked against them at prohibitively and excessively high level.

Indiscriminate conflicting policies that doom sinkies must to be corrected.

The aristocrats are not listening but likely to shed crocodile tears again to "swindle" daft sinkies to let them run rampant in their lives.

The end result could be another five years of marginalization of sinkies and the point of no return.

Anonymous said...

Can we please vote in some more real Singaporeans into parliament.

True or not you tell me lah?
The Pro Alien Party is full of aristocrats who are very ashamed of us Singaporeans.
They want to replace us and our children with Aliens.
Continue voting for them and our elderly parents will be working as toilet cleaners.
Our daughters will serve as whores for the Aliens.
Our wives will be working as maids.
Our husbands will be working as taxi drivers and punching bags for drunken Aliens.
Our sons will be serving as security guards in National service.

Let us vote in real Singaporeans who are proud of us.
Who want to serve us rather than replace us.
Vote in patriots. Not traitors.

Anonymous said...

@AnonymousAugust 13, 2015 8:07 a.m.
>>>>>>>>Can we please vote in some more real Singaporeans into parliament.
....... .........
The Pro Alien Party is full of aristocrats who are very ashamed of us Singaporeans.
..............<<<<<<<<<

Give them 5 years to REPENT.

Anonymous said...

@AnonymousAugust 13, 2015 8:07 a.m

Not only is the Pro Alien Party ashamed of us Singaporeans.
They blame Singaporeans for everything that goes wrong in Singapore.
The Pro Alien Party controls parliament, the army, the civil service, the HDB flats, the national reserves, our CPF money and etc.
And yet they still blame Singaporeans when things go wrong.

What more do they want?
30 years, 300 years or 3,000 more years in parliament?

What more do WE want?
30 years, 300 years or 3,000 more years of slavery and being blamed for everything?

VOTE OUT The BASTARDS IN GE 2015.