7/23/2015

Govt ‘has interests of citizens at heart’

‘Purely from the perspective of numbers, it makes sense to take in foreign labour and immigrants. But from an emotional standpoint, it is not easy for people to accept, to agree and support.  We have explained the reasons many times. I think people may not necessarily want more explanations.

What I hope people will know, and I mean this from my heart, is that on immigration and population, we have Singaporeans’ interests at heatt.

We have this responsibility; we are the Govt , we need to lead the country, we need to make the best possible decision for Singaporeans. Even on the most difficult issue, we need to make the best decision and be accountable to the people. There may be different views on how the policy should be, but I hope people understand that the Govt’s intent is good.

We are doing this for Singapore, and for Singaporeans.’  Lee Hsien Loong quoted in ST 22 Jul 15

 

In the above statement Hsien Loong’s position is that the people may disagree with govt policies and the decisions the govt is making, and that is fair. But he also said that the govt should do what it thinks is right, without quoting the example of the arrogant deaf frog, because it is the govt, and if it says it is for the good of the people it must be good for the people.

These two points deserved some discussions and disagreements. In the first instance, the govt must know that this is a democracy and the govt is elected to be the govt for only a 4 or 5 year term. It is not a life time govt. Any govt should take cognizance of this reality and when it makes decisions that have very long term impact on the people, with possible adverse effects, it must seek the consent of the people. The govt is there to represent the people’s interests and the people’s interests must be determined and decided by the people. A major decision like increasing the population to double its size, to turn the original Singaporeans into a minority cannot be taken lightly and not by a govt that is supposed to be there for a 4/5 term. When the people disagree, a democratically elected govt has no right to go ahead against the wishes of the people.

The second point is about Singaporean interests, for the good of Singaporeans. This is a very subjective statement. What is good for gander is not necessarily good for the geese. The govt may think it is good, the intent of the govt, which may be totally incongruent to what the people want,  may be good in the govt’s own interpretation. But does the govt ask the people whether the people agree and think so? Many political decisions are not necessarily a matter of good or bad. The people may have different interests and views on what is good or bad for them. Can a govt of a few men and women, elected to be the govt for a few years, decide the fate of the people unilaterally and go against the wishes of the people just because it claims that it is good for the people, and they are the govt and must decide?

The power of the people vested on an elected govt is temporary and not a blank cheque to do anything the elected govt pleases and thinks it is the right thing to do. There are things and times for an elected govt to come down to the people and ask what the people want eg the people’s money in the CPF or the billions given to foreign students. This is not an autocracy or a totalitarian state, not a dictatorship or a monarchy where the leader holds absolute power, unquestionable power to do as it pleases as if they own this country.

How many of you think or agree that the govt can do anything it likes because it is the govt and because it thinks it is good for the people? Does the political leaders understand what is the meaning of democracy, a republic?

In the same article in the ST, Hsien Loong was also quoted to say this:

‘No matter how the system evolves, we hope that politicians admit that the task is to serve Singaporeans – not a party, or an interest group, but all Singaporeans.’

I am sure every one of you would have a view on this statement.

28 comments:

Anonymous said...

// In the first instance, the govt must know that this is a democracy and the govt is elected to be the govt for only a 4 or 5 year term. It is not a life time govt. //

Which other party ruled SIN City since 1959?

4 to 5 years term?

Who is the ostrich with his head in the sand?

Is this a kong cum talking?

Anyone want to support this old bukan mati ( 老不死 ) in the next election and make this kong cum the "PM" ( Pathetic Maniac ).

Anonymous said...

How many of you think or agree that the govt can do anything it likes because it is the govt and because it thinks it is good for the people?
RB

I agree. And only because the opposition themselves admitted they are not ready to take over as govt. So having a govt that can do anything it likes because it is the govt is the lesser of 2 evils. Or better to have a devil u know than an angel u don't.

Tiok bo, u say lah?

Anonymous said...

On the one hand, the West keeps on harping, for centuries past and present, on the issue that it is unhuman for a country like China and North Korea to have a Government that can do anything it likes even though it may be good for the people.

On the other hand, some kong cum seems to think it is the lesser of two evils if no one else is ready to be the government and let the incumbant continue doing as it likes, without anyone slapping them if they go astray. A little nibbling is still better than sitting, waiting and doing nothing but 'tang si' or waiting for death.

Anonymous said...


So Blessed! So Blessed!

We are indeed very very blessed! Very very blessed!

Yes! We are very very blessed as we have a BEST govt!

Yes! Our BEST govt has the interests of its citizens at heart.

Yes! Our BEST govt is for Singapore and for Singaporeans.

Just look around, we have EVERYTHING!

We have World Class mrt, buses, cabs, btos, healthcare,
financial, education, pension, childcare, etc etc etc.

Yes! We are World Class! Yes! We are the world!

We are paradise!

Yes 新加坡是天堂! Yes 新加坡是天堂!

如果新加坡不是天堂 哪里是天堂?

You tell me lah!

So blessed! So blessed!

Cheers.

Anonymous said...

Anon 9:11, you shameless asshole, hiding under anonymity to attack RB again. If you are a man with two little balls, identify yourself and see whether you can take on RB on a one to one?

Or you are just a ball less creep, a coward only pretending to be a man?

Come on, show us how brave and how great you are, you sneaky bastard!

Or you want to take me on?

Anonymous said...

This kongcum sneaky bastard 9:11.

I also waiting for you. Don't be a chicken.

ℳatilah_$ingapura said...

@ Hsien Loong in the ST:

>> ‘No matter how the system evolves, we hope that politicians admit that the task is to serve Singaporeans – not a party, or an interest group, but all Singaporeans.’ <<

This is nonsense and anyone who believes this and gets "conned" deserves it.

@ RB:

>> How many of you think or agree that the govt can do anything it likes because it is the govt and because it thinks it is good for the people? <<

This is Singapore lah. The govt will do ANYTHING for ANY reason, Whether it is "good" for the people is IRRELEVANT.

>> Does the political leaders understand what is the meaning of democracy, a republic? <<

Even if you recite the useless stupid pledge 10,000 times, there will still be only guided democracy in the Singapore republic. Culturally, Singapore is not ready for a democracy. Democracy will ONLY happen, when the culture changes.

"Political leaders" are exactly THE SAME people as the Sheeple who made them "leaders", therefore they are both as "goondoo" and "clever" as each other. They have the same CULTURE.

If you think (like me) that most Singaporeans are ASSHOLES, then the political leaders will tend to also be ASSHOLES---but with power and authority, and a steady high-value pay check.

You deluded motherfuckers still think that by voting you will change things? In your lame brain do you still reckon that political leaders and sheeple are "different"? Good for you.

Go ahead, prove me wrong, try lah :-))

The People Get 1, 2, 3, They Deserve

1. The Government
2. The Cuntry
3. The Political System


Still think your ONE LOUSY VOTE will make a difference? Good lah. Stay deluded in fairyland!

Here's the kicker few have the guts to bring up, and so far NO ONE has brought it up in Parliament:

Singaporeans (mostly assholes) neither trust themselves nor their fellow citizens. They need a STRONG, ALL POWERFUL govt to hammer "others" into line, and to take the lead in SOCIALLY ENGINEERING the society.

Fuck you lousy, pointless vote lah1

patriot said...

Lee Hsien Loong had made it VERY CLEAR TO SINKIES THAT THE 'NATURAL' ARISTOCRATS SHALL HOLD THE REIN OF SIN.
WHAT DEMOCRACY?

TO STOP THEM, SINKIES WILL HAVE TO REMOVE THE ARISTOCRATS FROM POWER THROUGH THE VOTES.

IT IS THE FINAL CHANCE TO DO SO IN THE COMING GENERAL ELECTION.

NOTHING IS MORE SATISFYING THAN TO SEE THE DOWNFALL OF THE
CHIEF
DEMOCRAT.

patriot

Anonymous said...

@ AnonymousJuly 23, 2015 9:45 a.m.
//Anon 9:11, you shameless asshole, hiding under anonymity to attack RB again. If you are a man with two little balls, identify yourself and see whether you can take on RB on a one to one?

Or you are just a ball less creep, a coward only pretending to be a man?

Come on, show us how brave and how great you are, you sneaky bastard!

Or you want to take me on?//


Are u referring to the video below?

https://youtu.be/4PVIiR0TcCI

Or yourself?

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

"Political leaders" are exactly THE SAME people as the Sheeple who made them "leaders", therefore they are both as "goondoo" and "clever" as each other. They have the same CULTURE. - Matilah Singapura

I used to think like that too. Then I got a rude awakening. The political leaders are unlike us, the people. They are nobles and aristocrats by birth. They are not the same as the people. Some stupid IBs may think they are also nobles and aristocrats but in reality they are the nobles and aristocrats' dogs feeding from crumbs thrown at them.

Yes, Patriot, you are right.

Anonymous said...

Aiya, 9.11 anon has no balls cause the person is not a man. Its a she lar, of course no malls mah, Tio bo? So don't any how scold hor

Anonymous said...

KNNBCCB, who is this 911? Chee bye kia.

Anonymous said...

@AnonymousJuly 23, 2015 9:45 a.m.
"Anon 9:11, you shameless asshole, hiding under anonymity to attack RB again. If you are a man with two little balls, identify yourself and see whether you can take on RB on a one to one?"

U made this comment without identifying yourself.

It is taken u r scolding yourself. ....

Nobody asked u to.

Why do that to yourself?

R u ....... ( also another kong cum)?

Anonymous said...

Anon 1:19,

I complained to your mum so many times. What have I done wrong, must be sleeping with her, to suffer the fate of having you.

Anonymous said...

@ AnonymousJuly 23, 2015 1:43 p.m.
//Anon 1:19,

I complained to your mum so many times. What have I done wrong, must be sleeping with her, to suffer the fate of having you.//


"Well done"! Many here are old enough to be ah gong, ah Ma ( grandfather, grandmother ) but easily lose temper, scold vulgar words, challenge others to " one to one" with the slightest different in views .....

Let swing voters know what kind of "characters " are some potential .......

上梁不正下梁歪 。。。。。

Virgo 49 said...

Anon 9.11- Osama already bombed 9.11

PAP not the first government of Singapore.

First Chief minister David Marshall followed by Lim Yew Hock.

Fyi David Marshall from WP and after full circle of feng shui and good karma WP together with their collation partners are gonna be the ruling government this coming GE.

This is the demise if the PAP. The owl had hooted.

Anonymous said...

All these talks about how badly Singapore has been governed lead to nothing but a furt in the wind. Singaporeans are just too kiasi to vote in any other party. PAP although to many is not a satisfactory government, but come the voting day, most Singaporeans are kwai kwai vote in another PAP majority. Singaporeans do not like to venture out of their comfort zone. Singaporeans complain strongly about how badly they have been governed, but secretly they will vote for the PAP, all because there isn't anyone else they feel would do a better job. Until Singaporeans wake up to the call from another credible opposition, PAP will continue to rule the country. In any political arena, an opposing voice is always better than none. In Singapore, sadly, this is lacking and the existing system will never change until an opposing force comes along, albeit just for check and balance.

Anonymous said...

Maybe maybe not. With the crazy money they are paying themselves and failing to deliver good and sustainable policies, people would be asking why they should be paid so much or why they should be elected at all.

It is more than Peter's Principles. It is about money worth spending on them.

b said...

3 things about politics
1) All politicians only serve their own interest.
2) Your vote is a wayang, the result is predetemined.
3) THe best way is to live better than them and able to enjoy every little gifts the nature has installed without fear of being followed, criticised or throw eggs.

Anonymous said...

"PAP Govt ‘has interests of citizens at heart’"

- With friends like these, who needs enemies?
- I'd rather they take their millions in salary and fly out of Singapore, never to return.

Anonymous said...

Now now 7.33, if they leave who will ruin Singapore?

Anonymous said...

@ AnonymousJuly 23, 2015 9:12 p.m.
"Now now 7.33, if they leave who will ruin Singapore?"


What difference does it make if the "ruined" is "ruined"?

When the horse is dead, the Chinese have a saying:

"死马当活马医"

When the horse is dead, if it is revived, it is a bonus.

If the dead horse is still dead after attempted resuscitation, the horse is still dead. Period.

Anonymous said...

@ AnonymousJuly 23, 2015 9:12 p.m.
"Now now 7.33, if they leave who will ruin Singapore?"

When a prostitute has been in the business for many years, does it make any difference her already tens of thousand of times ruined "xxxxxx" is further ruined?

After opening the leg so big, is there a turning back for a prostitute?

Does it help to kpkb gazillion times and the prostitute can "wash" clean her "gazillion times penetrated "xxxxxx""?

In Chinese they say "把死马当活马医"。

In English, "being trapped between a rock and a hard place".

Essentially whoever treating the dead horse or try to cleanse the prostitute already is moot and probably no longer matter when the horse is already dead and the prostitute already a "seasoned" prostitute.

ℳatilah_$ingapura said...

@ RB:

>> he political leaders are unlike us, the people. They are nobles and aristocrats by birth. <<

Impossible lah, RB. Nobility and aristocracy takes several centuries to establish and ensconce into the cuntry's social structure.

When I say they are "the same" I essentially mean they are the same CULTURALLY. Culture transcends social or economic rank. In fact, the "nobility" aspect you identify (mistakenly) is simply an outgrowth of culture. i.e. the part of the culture which states: "Now I an Tuan Beasr, I can make the rules, manipulate and tekan those of LOWER RANK for the purpose of _____(fill in any suka-suka bullshit reason)___ .".

Another point about nobility and aristocracy: you don't just suka suka declare yourself a noble or aristocrat. You also need the sanctions of not only the Supreme Ruler and your peers, but mostly from the COMMON PEOPLE---who always form THE MAJORITY of any cuntree's population. i.e. there is no such thing as "self appointed" nobility or aristocracy.

ℳatilah_$ingapura said...

@ RB

P.S.

Many people make the mistake that Singapore is "egalitarian" just because you can find millionaires and basic wage workers eating at the same food courts.

No so. In Singapore culture SOCIAL RANKING is based on several "metrics":

1. Personal economic success
2. Good looks (for women)
3. Race (Caucasian gets "bonus" points, darker skin lose points)
4. Overt displays of wealth, therefore success (e.g. expensive watch(es), accessories, vehicle0
5. Appearances at specific places (A-list parties, VIP seating at theatre, certain private clubs, mention and photo appearing in Straits Times, Business Times and Singapore Tatler)

...and so on.

Social Rank in Singapore culture is locked-step with "face" (aka "esteem" or "favourable reputation"). The higher your social rank, the more "costly" it is for you to "Loose Face".

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

You never heard of Singapore Exceptionalism meh? Singapore's nobles and aristocrats are make by the first generation. 50 years and we have produced nobles and aristocrats. Where got need to take centuries?

And all it takes is for the nobles and aristocrats to call themselves nobles and aristocrats. QED.

patriot said...

Aristocrats in Sin are self proclaimed and recognized within the Ruling Class themselves.
Commoners may consider them, greedy, conceit a d low class in morality and ethic. Some even consider them conscience-less and dirty.

How would one name an Aristocrat who suggested others to do Harakiri for mistake which happened ib the Aristocrats' Camp before other committed it.

The Funny thing Thing was that many more cases happened in the Aristocrats Camp and he; the Aristcrat who calked others to Harakiri claimed that no wrong was found in 28 Lapses. Even more ridiculous was recurring Lapses in the Ministry He is incharged.

What kind of Aristocrats are these?

patriot

Anonymous said...

Exceptional Aristocrats.