10/08/2014

Saving Roy

The tag of heckling Special Needs Children has been hung on the necks of Roy and Hui Hui. And it is not only some jokers saying it. The main media are saying it, the MPs and Ministers are saying it. So far no one from the establishment is saying other wise. So, would this tag be burnt on the skins of Roy and Hui Hui?

The social media have risen in protest to tell another story. Ok, I must say that the only person who was directly involved in this ‘heckling’ thing did not say it. There were many eyewitnesses from the social media, the uncles and aunties. There were photos and video clips to show exactly what had happened. And the police are investigating the incident like a crime had taken place. Would it be enough or would a Commission of Inquiry be conducted on this ‘heckling’ incident? Heckling Special Needs Children is now a very, very serious thing in this island, more serious than gum chewing and graffiti I think.

Why is this so? Compare to the Little India Riot, this is definitely a more dangerous incident. Firstly, the rioters in Little India were very nice people, and very happy. In this case, the uncles and aunties were very angry people for they were fighting for their CPF money, their life time savings that they believed must be returned to them. They have a grudge, a grouse to settle. So there was a valid reason to he angry. And Roy and Hui Hui were very, very fierce. Roy was seen shouting until his veins were protruding from his neck and his facial expression was that of an angry young man. Hui Hui was worse. She was challenging and bullying the NPark Director and the policemen not in uniform. How not to fear her? And their voices were deafening, very much louder than those rioters in Little India, with the help of loudspeakers of course. The only thing they did not do was burning police vehicles.

But that is nothing compares to heckling children, and not only ordinary children but Special Needs Children. If this fact is proven, it is going to be ugly. No one is accusing them of heckling the minister. Either this is not true or not important enough.

So, why Saving Roy but not Saving Hui Hui as well? You see, all the uncles and aunties were above 55. So they would be spared the cane even if the crime is ‘caneable’. As for Hui Hui, she is lucky that as a female she is not ‘caneable’. As for Roy, ‘chiat lat’ man. He is a man, and if this serious crime warrants caning, his ‘pantat’ sure ‘pitcha’, open flower.

Now you see why my title is Saving Roy? And if a COI is convened, we have two freshly cooked and very experienced ex judge and ex Police Commissioner with just the right skill sets for this job. Perhaps they may think the Police could have acted earlier, and more decisive to prevent this heckling incident from happening. Perhaps they could tell the NPark that they should have foreseen this possibility and should not have approved the two events to be held at the same place and same time. Perhaps they could tell the parents that they should not have brought their children to a protest site. There are a lot of perhaps that a COI could talk about.

What are the facts so far? The most authoritative person in the centre of this fracas said the protesters were there for him. Would this be enough to say that they were not after the children, to disrupt or heckle the children? The protesters were at least 20m or 30m from the children, shouting ‘Return Our CPF’ and ‘Vote them Out’. The distance was reasonably far away from the children though the sound could reach them because of the loudspeakers. But the two slogans shouted had nothing to do with the children. And from all their actions, were they clear enough that they were not there to heckle the children?

Special Needs Children are extra sensitive. Some have disputed this claim. Autistic children are highly sensitive and intimidated by the presence of crowds. Are those children up on stage autistic children or Special Needs Children that are highly sensitive to the crowd and noise?

One of the childen performing on stage missed a bit. So it must be due to the ‘heckling’ and nothing else? Did they stumble on the beat for some other reasons? Remember, they are Special Needs Children. And another Special Needs Children needed comforting by the Minister. Did the child say he/she was frightened or heckled by the protesters?

Would the evidence from video clips and eye witnesses be enough to save Roy and Hui Hui for this extraordinary and exceptionally hideous crime against the Special Needs Children, called heckling? Would this tag be branded on them for life, as Special Needs Children Hecklers?


Kopi Level - Green

45 comments:

Anonymous said...

sure, RB, Roy and gf needed to be saved from themselves! first, they got no credible issues to talk about. Their cpf case has been shot to pieces. maybe, they shd quiet down, get married, have some babies, and come back again to talk about costs of having and bringing up babies and children, domestic maids issues, education elitism ... etc.

Anonymous said...


just want to say :

be more forgiving.....
love yourself.....
be kind to others.....
it is a wonderful world....

cheers.....

Anonymous said...

Roy's chants of 'Return Our CPF" is heckling.

PAPigs chants of "We Love Our CPF" is not heckling.
And does not upset the children.

The Special Needs Children can tell the difference meh?
Everybody in PAP suddenly become experts on Special Needs Children meh?

Yew want to help Special Needs Children?
Return the CPF money back to their parents.
The patents will need their CPF money because maybe the PAP government is not doing enough?
Working very hard to keep the Singapore Reserve safe from the Special Needs Children & their parents.

Anonymous said...

Have no choice but to agree with Anon 9:14. There is no issues in Sin. That is why the PM is telling the Sinkies to worry about world events. Everyone is happy and all issues are non issues. Only netizens are kpkbing and building mountains out of mole hills.

Better to worry about ISIS.

Anonymous said...

Alamak. Hsien loong, knn hojinx chao cb

Anonymous said...

Its sad that this is the state of affair in Singapore. Instead of addressing seriuos issues, our MPs and ministers are nitpicking and trying to divert attention to other issues.

Anonymous said...

As for Roy, ‘chiat lat’ man. He is a man, and if this serious crime warrants caning, his ‘pantat’ sure ‘pitcha’, open flower.
RB

Hahahahahahaha.

RB, u have completely missed the point.

Roy is already really "jialat" due to a lawsuit against him by the most powerful man in Sinkieland.

So why would PAP want to flog a dead horse by hitting his "pantat" some more? Got use or not, u tell me lah?

Anonymous said...

PAP will still win the next election even if Roy "pantat" kena caned until sure ‘pitcha’, open flower.

Anonymous said...

I am a Special Needs Adult. I cannot live without multi million dollar salaries. I will throw tantrum and even become corrupt if I did not get my millions.

Anonymous said...

Laws and all the cocks and bulls laid down in the 50s and 60s for the uninformed then is not going to be wholly accepted by people living in 2010s, 2020s, 2030s, 2040s.

Why not try imposing 2,000 year old ancient laws?

It is the same logic. What is outdated is outdated!

Anonymous said...

Maybe, I say MAYBE the Ones who shouted that they love their CPF to vie against those shouting Return our CPF have startled and frightened the children beside them.
Unless the kids were prewarned, otherwise some sudden shoutings would have got the kids frightened for they were not prepared. By such a deduction, those that shouted Return my CPF have no liability to answer for the Frights of the Children. The Return my CPF started from afar and would have been faintly heard from the Beginning. By the Time Roy Ngerng and Han Hui Hui reached the Children, they(kids) would have been able to shout the Slogan themselves.
Roy was shown on tv to have shaked hand with Teo Ser Luck and they appeared liked good old friends. The atmosphere was one with much camaraderies and celebrations. Where got heckling and animosity??

Only Idiots fearing and imagining HLP is haunted are saying nonsense.

Singaporeans are by and large sensible folks.

Anonymous said...

Is there any video clips or pictures showing any Special Needs Child in a state of shock or fear?

Anonymous said...

Rb // Saving Roy //

Rb, there is only one thing that can save ROY: " 屠龙刀 "!

Anonymous said...

25Th Oct shall be the date. " 宝刀屠龙, 为民除害"!

Anonymous said...

The ONLY WAY to save roy is:

BIG

TURNOUT

ON

25 OCT 2014

4PM!

风雨不改

不见不散

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

In all his eagerness to defend Roy, RB had once again ignored one major point that I have pointed out before.

If it is only the PAP ministers and mainstream media criticizing Roy, there is no problem. Problem is the number of netizens and online activists that have joined in. Maybe RB wants to claim that The Online Citizen, Ariffin Sha, Nicole Seah, Yee Jen Joong and Ravi Philemon are now PAP IBs because they also criticized Roy on this one thing.

But of course, I mentioned this before and bloggers like RB will not admit it. Just as PAP has their own groupthink, there exists a group of opposition supporters out there who also have their groupthink. Out of 10 things, they cannot even find the independent voice to disagree on 1 of the 10. Everything must echo according to what they like to hear, if not, you must be a PAP mole in disguise?

I think if RB will venture out of his own blog, and those few sites like TRE/TRS, he might realise the online scene in Singapore is much larger than he thinks and it is not taking very kindly to Roy right now. He might then reflect on whether this is the work of the main media, or it is that Singapore netizens really have their own thinking and voice, and they have voiced out AGAINST Roy, this one time.

Anonymous said...

1.59 pm knn to u as u are very tiok

Anonymous said...

Good point 1:59. There are many good sites that share your views and very agreeable to you.

Why are you here everyday and let people scold you and called you names?

Anonymous said...

@ Anon 2:04 (both of you)

Well, what does it matter if people call me names online? They don't know me and I don't know them. I state my views and get out. People are free to comment.

And seriously whats the big deal about being called an IB? Most people from the usual clique think its a damn big deal that they gang up to call people IB whenever someone makes a point that falls even a bit out of their narrow minded mindset. If that is the best they can do/argue, haha, good luck to whatever they are trying to achieve. As I also mentioned before, if there really are so many IB out there, PAP already won liao.

For me, I trust that as people are getting more critical thinking, they know how to criticize PAP's policies, but they will also know how to voice up when they see things from the opposition (whether party or activist) they do not like. It works both ways. Give Singaporeans more credit for their ability to think, not just when it favours you.

Thats all for now. Bye.

Anonymous said...

// Thats all for now. Bye.//


GOOD
RIDDEN!

Anonymous said...

Prediction for 25th Oct " 屠龙大会 ":

1) 人山人海

2) BIG BIG TURNOUT!

3) "屠龙大会 " 结论: " DEATH BY A THOUSAND CUTS "!

oldhorse42 said...

RB aka Chua Chin Leng is correct. Roy and HHH are in deep shit. To heckle the special needs children in the presence of a Junior Minister is gone case. The Minister's words will certainly be taken very seriously. On top of that HHH was heard loudly calling out Teo Ser Luck to return her CPF!
How could she made such ridiculous demand. Every one knows or ought o know that Minister Teo did no such thing. And every one knows or ought to know that HHH does not have much CPF any way.As she has not been working for long.
From the video of the event, just look at TSL, so cool and collected. Smiling all the way and even offered to shake hands with those who mocked him.In the face of adversity, he was so composed and not a feather ruffled.Surely a minister material and will be promoted to full minister come next election.
Of course some cynic said TSL knew the script and just acted the role.
As for Roy and HHH, what would happen to them?
They will ge marry and produce many special needs children, some people said.

Anonymous said...

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Anonymous said...

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金毛狮王手执屠龙刀,在寻觅他的对手 ------------ 真正的高手,都是惺惺相惜。

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只有倚天剑!

但是,倚天剑在那里?

狮王面上是平静的,但是厮杀江湖多年的经验告诉他,就在那边凉棚上,一个长发飘飘、休闲自得的中年男子,却正是劲敌!只是,他确实太自在了,场上的刀光剑影仿佛与他无关;莫非,这就是真正的“气敛于内”?

一个时辰将要过去,狮王失望了,来他面前炫耀的都是些华而不实的喽罗,早早就被他手下的小弟赶走了;莫非,今晚高估了对手,屠龙刀难逢旗鼓相当?

狮王拍拍手上的手套,预备返回光明顶的行囊了。少年弟子江湖老,这江湖,已经不再是他的江湖了。

刹时间,哪个长发飘飘的中年男子,人如脱兔般逼近场内!

狮王为之一振!

来了!!

真正的高手来了!

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果然,此人亮剑了,真的是倚天剑!

一剑西来,天外菲仙!!!!!!!

狮王是时,正欣赏着那一剑的风情,忐的,那剑却自中年人手中凌空而起,矫若游龙,自左至右,交到一个长发少年之前。

那少年甚是老练,也无什么花招,却见他只待剑到半空,腾身而起,以头一拨,剑已直射入狮王窝中!

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如是,江湖之中,都知道了这局争斗:武林至尊,宝刀屠龙,号令天下,莫敢不从,倚天不出,谁与争锋?"

Anonymous said...

Reminder " 屠龙大会 " 25th Oct:

1) Remember bring Portable BBQ Pit

2) Satay wooden BBQ SKEWERs

3) "Strong Pliers" to remove "龙鳞" (big song fish scales)

4) 10 cartons of "song fish heads "

5) plenty of condiments and sauce

6) One Toy Dragon Sabre

7)" 屠龙大会 " placards! Be creative pls!

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

You people are getting creative.

As for IBs, let me just add a couple of points here. The low level IBs, not much thinking type, will just come here and attack bloggers personally, just that. Head quite kosong type.

The thinking type of IBs, will engage in the discussion with their points of views and ideas to challenge the prevailing ideas. This type of IBs are respectable and fair. I don't think anyone will attack them as they would not get personal.

And there are the neutrals that would argue for or against a view, but they would not attack anyone personally or name calling.

Anonymous said...

1.59pm // Ariffin Sha, Nicole Seah, Yee Jen Joong and Ravi Philemon//


Who are all these errrrrrrm, ------------- weights ?

What they think and say carry a lot of weight meh? Since when huh?

17 year old teenager also is the messiah?

Only hai gong treat the words of a 17 year old as the "holy truth "?

YEW stupid no need tell the whole world wide web.......

Sinkies already know the std of the people YEW mentioned........

Anonymous said...

I see the conversation growing. Interesting, I will come back for one more pop.

@RB.

Thanks. Low level or thinking type IBs, but no matter what, you still think they are IBs right? Even if they "challenge the prevailing ideas", "respectable and fair", but still, they must be IB. Haha. Up to you man. IB then IB lor.

@4:16pm

The people I mentioned are all well known opposition members and activists. But YEW say they got no standard, I also bobian. Bye Bye.

@3:14pm

Yup. Posting a 2 word rant in caps lock is soooo effective in debate. I feel totally rebutted liao. Come, I clap for you.

Anonymous said...

// AnonymousOctober 08, 2014 4:38 pm
I see the conversation growing. Interesting, I will come back for one more pop. //

YEW go to a monastry for prostitutues and drugs?

YEW must be kiddings!

PIMPS AND PROSTITUTUES, DRUGS ARE IN CRIME INFESTED LAWLESS GEYLANG. EVEN THE MP ALSO SAID SHE BOBIAN ...... SO PLSE GO BACK TO WHERE YEW BELONG

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b said...

They have to save themselves. Most sinkies are selfish. Anyway, they walked right into a trap setup by the youknowlah. Can only blame their own naiveness and impulsiveness.

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Remember bring scales remover!

Anonymous said...

" 屠龙大会 " 25th Oct programmes:

1) heat up portable oil deep fryer

2) when boiling hot, throw in the meat

3) scoop up and de-oil under hot sun

4) apply few layers of super hot chilli paste

5) dip in chilli padi light sauce

6) Bon appetit!

Anonymous said...

Btw, it is buffet style

Anonymous said...

Estimated feasting crowd: 10,000

Suggestion to enjoy a buffet:

1) skip brkfst
2) skip lunch
3) start consuming yr skipped brkfst
4) next yr skipped lunch
5) next also the dinner
6) then also next day brkfst
7) and finally next day lunch

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

Hi Everyone, Please do not try to spam my blog the way you are doing. Unless you are those special operators that have special resources and worked on computers, own service providers and IPs that are untraceable, if you are those ordinary IBs, I guarantee you that you can be traced with a snap of the finger.

I am going to leave these spammings here as proof/record and for tracing purposes. There are many sources that I can go to to do the tracing.

This is not funny and I am warning you. I hope you are friendly and just got carried away. If not, please stop or you will face the consequences.

Redbean

Anonymous said...

Is it any worst than what happened at HLP? Or far from it?

What is heckling?

What is not?

What is the definition?

Should somebody come out with the definition of heckling and all the oso cannot list?

One said heckling, one said not heckling?

One said yes, one said just satire, so how?

Rb writes provocative stuff to stimulate discussions and debates.

And then somebody writes some satire stuff or poems or literature.

Oso cannot?

Better write and set the parameters clearly then and cast in stone!

This world would be chaotic and anarchic if there are double standard, triple standard, countless standard or no standardisation.

Any regulations need a set of standardisation, tio bor?

So can somebody clarify what is more serious?

What happened in little india or in hlp or some satire writing or provocative writing in the internet? Anybody was defamed?

If there are no clearly stated no clearly defined wordings, then is it everything going to be arbitrary and subjected to suka suka interpretations or accusations?

Who writes the law?

If there is no rule of law or clear writings, then suka suka some can some cannot?

Someone better clarify what's satire, what's not, what's provocative and can, what's provocative but oso cannot, who can have multiple standard and who everything oso salah.

Chua Chin Leng aka redbean said...

Anonymous said...

" 妖龙未除, 誓不罢威"!
" 妖龙未除, 誓不罢威"!
" 妖龙未除, 誓不罢威"!
" 妖龙未除, 誓不罢威"!

Anonymous said...

" 宝刀屠龙, 为民除害"!
" 宝刀屠龙, 为民除害"!
" 宝刀屠龙, 为民除害"!

Anonymous said...

" 妖龙未除, 誓不罢威"!
" 妖龙未除, 誓不罢威"!
" 妖龙未除, 誓不罢威"!

All the above 3 examples posted in great numbers are unacceptable as they irritate other readers.

Have fun but don't get carried away to deface the blog.

Thank you

Redbean

Anonymous said...

So can the garment tell protesters in hlp can only shout 3 or 4 times but not more than that cos other park users or passersby get irritated?

Anyway if garment sent officers to warn protesters cannot shout multiple times like 10, 20 or 30 in no uncertain terms and language, how are the protesters to make of it?

Anyway if shouting 30 times is to amplify the message, why should writing the same message 30 times be seen as intention to deface?

In Chinese traditional school, students are asked by teachers to write the same idiom 30 to 100 times. So does it mean the teachers intentionally made the students deface the exercise books or irritate the students themselves to no end or spam their own exercise books?

Who decide or arbitrarily decide what is what?

Was it necessary for the strong language to equally get your point across? Or that were some instructions?

Is there any fault of expression to occasionally have such lines repeated multiple times to amplify the msg?

Anonymous said...

Nu kong simi lan chao

Knn... papigs

Anonymous said...

Dun spam RB site with some foreign language pls. If I dun understand 1 sentence, I will not understand 25 of them either, IDIOTS. "Return My CPF" is a STUPID chant ... how can you ask someone to return what is ALWAYS yours FOR YOUR USE and NEVER left you? GO BACK to your HDB Flat you or parents bought with their CPF money. U will be sleeping on the streets if they had NO CPF. Empty Slogan and Empty Issue .. just Move On and talk about ......whatever else lah!

Anonymous said...

Wah liao eh.... y kanna spammed until so chiak lat?



Olld fart army @ work?

Neber mind ang bean, I get even 4 u

U bunch of spiders fucking chee by assholes licking papigs suporkers.. please Fuck off.

Anonymous said...

Thank you, Redbean, for your continuing effort in getting to the truth of this incident. We are dependent on you and other bloggers to show us the photos and videos.

Singaporeans need a lesson in English Language.

Was Roy heckling Special Needs Children?

How can Roy heckle Special Needs Children if he did not know Special Needs Children were performing on stage?

Whatever noises were made, how can anyone of sound mind conclude that the noises were directed at Special Needs Children? The only explanation I can see is that there are a lot of Singaporeans that are not of sound mind.

Anonymous said...

How much resources and man hours to fix Roy? Anyone got conscience pricks?